₦airaland Forum

agaugust:
There are no records of Nigerian Skyguard but I showed you it exists. You Southies always said Nigerian army anti-aircraft guns have no radar guidance systems. Now we proved you wrong.

#WRECKED

1. lol I see you dont know much about Skygaurd

2. Your purchase of GDF-02 guns is well documented

agaugust:
My pleasure....

Nigerian army Skyguard GBADS systems unknown to the general world until revealed by bidexii few months ago.

NA beats SANDF in air defence systems
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12-16 units of GDF-02

v

102 GDF-002 + 48 modified GDF-005 units.


Gee I wonder who wins

FYI, yours are ancient, ours are Skysheild. Get your facts straight

agaugust:
Quote where I ever said F-7 jets flew 6,000 combat hours.

I said NAF flew 6,000 combat sorties as an air force, all aircraft types.

Learn to read or get free eye glasses under ANC social welfare package for lazy black men

cute

we flew 18 000 hours

agaugust:
Quote where I ever said F-7 jets flew 6,000 combat hours.

I said NAF flew 6,000 combat sorties as an air force, all aircraft types.

Learn to read or get free eye glasses under ANC social welfare package for lazy black men

cute

we few 18 000 hours

agaugust:
Let me remind you that Nigerian army has forced Boko Haram to stoop low to this level and we will do same to SANDF
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Boko Haram of 4000 men with no tanks/heavy weapons/air support stole over 40 towns and cities from 20 000 of you


What then do you think will happen when you face the SANDF? We are better equipped, armed and trained.

agaugust:
SAAF arrived with air support and landed Gripen jets, Rooivalk helicopters, etc in Congo airport withing striking range of Bangui to blow Seleka's head, but your army refused to reinforce and the troops hiding under French soldiers ampits demanded to be allowed to escape back home to sleep with their wives....SANDF chickened out of the new MoU mandate to protect propert and save lives in C.A.R.[s]

Go read Nigerian military history of Liberian and Sierra Leonean wars.[/s]

No, that is not at all what happened.

Are you really this delusional or are you just looking for someone to talk to?

agaugust:
Your useless SANDF and Special forces allowed Seleka to take over C.A.R.

Your useless SANDF 21 battalion and SF allowed Rhino poachers to rule SADC.

[s]Cameroon has always had a NATO power inside their country from before till after their independence, France has permanent military base in Cameroon. As a sovereign nation, Cameroon is free to invite America to join France. It's none of our business.

Last time Chad, Cameroon, Niger were making YouTube videos for BBC claiming they were saving Nigeria instead of blocking their borders to stop escaping Boko Haram fighters being pursued by a rampaging Blitzkrieg of the Nigerian black Napoleons, you were praising Chad and Cameroon, now Boko Haram has relocated to those countries, and I no longer see you praising them.

Your foolish praise brought them to the point of accepting American troops in their soil. Sure Cameroonian and Chadian armies enjoyed the January-April praises of rëtardëd ïmbëciles like you...now they are in trouble for their glory hunting during Nigeria's final offensive.

Law of Karma[/s]

1. Not our job to defend bangui

2. 21 Battalion + SF were not deployed primarily to stop Rhino poaching

Yet again Augbug has to twist facts to even come close to having an argument

agaugust:
Nigerian army has many weapons and equipment not known to 99.9% of the public, not even recorded on SIPRI or UN arms log.

Nigeria has GBADS and a data link system not fully explained for public information.

Hahahahahaha

Bullsh1t

No record = does not exist

agaugust:
I am comparing Nigerian army and South African army, then you reply me by saying SANDF has jet fighters and attack helicopters , or maybe it's not only @Fighter Pilot that does not know the difference between army and air force, you South Africans seems to have a nationwide brain rëtärdation epidemic
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SANDF = Army + Airforce + Navy

Re.tard

lionel4power:
[s]WE DEDUCE THROUGH LOGIC. UNLIKE YOU GUYS THAT ARGUE LIKE ZOMBIES... ASS-LICKING YOUR GOVERNMENT AND SWALLOWING LIES.

UNCHAIN YOURSELF FROM YOUR ZULU ZOMBIE HERITAGE

THEN WE CAN DISCUSS LIKE MEN.[/s]

We deal with facts here.

Not guesswork.

agaugust:
Nigerian army has Ichokwu mini glider drones, Aeryon mini quad copter drones, and army aviation wing with army owned Gazelle and Eurocpter armed scout helicopters .

Does SANDF have army aviation ? No !

NA is more advanced than SANDF in multiple role functionality
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Citations needed for what drones you have

Does SANDF need army aviation when SAAF provides the service?

No, NA is LESS EFFICIENT than the SANDF

agaugust:
I said SAAF has no drones, Go read my comments, I said it's army drone not air force.

Thanks for proving that Vulture drone belongs to your army not air force, thanks for agreeing with me sir, thanks for calling @Fighter Pilot a foolish air force officer who thinks SAAF operates Vulture drones
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Why does it matter who operates the drones?

How is that relevant?

agaugust:
Citation for NAF flying 6,000 combat sorties has been repeteadly asked for by you and repeatedly posted here over 20 times in the past few months. Nobody will waste time repeating that for you, it's been over repeated. Stop messing up this forum by asking for repetitions of same thing over and over again.

SAAF has flown ZERO combat sorties this year, so when you attempt what NAF has done, we can measure your own accidents crash rates.

6,000 sorties of Northern region war not counting non-military flights in South, East, and West, NAF has only 3 accidental crashes.....one of the best records of safety in the world.

SAAF, please show us how you flew 6,000 combat sorties this year 2015
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Post it again, because it does not say that F7's flew that many sorties

SAAF flew 18 000 hours - we fly more than you

You have 15 jets, you have crashed 5 - that is a terrible safety record

lionel4power:
Russian Su-30SM performed a Visual ID intercept on a U.S. plane over Syria

On Oct. 10, a Russian Su-30SM belonging to the contingent deployed to Latakia, in Syria, had a close encounter with a unspecified U.S. combat plane supporting Operation Inherent Resolve.

According to Russia’s Ministry of Defense, the Flanker-derivative 4++ Gen aircraft was providing air escort for a package of attack planes in Syria when it approached the American plane, to perform a VID (Visual Identification).

The intercept “was not aimed at scaring off the US aircraft.”

According to RT, the Su-30SM, operating in Aleppo province, “detected radiation emitted from an unidentified aircraft and approached it to identify the bogie [unidentified aircraft in interceptor’s lingo].”

So, the aircraft was at an estimated distance of 2-3 km, when it detected the American plane and closed on it, to visually identify the unknown traffic. After the VID, the Russian plane rejoined the other aircraft it was escorting and continued its mission.

Nothing special then, besides the fact that these close encounters are exploited to collect some intelligence about the counterpart’s weapons systems: radio frequencies, sensors emissions and all the stuff ISR (intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance) platforms can collect from distance.

Su-30SMs have been pretty active with their still largely unknown Bars-R radar, possibly exposing its “signature” to the ESM (Electronic Support Measure) sensors of nearby aircraft: few days ago, a Russian Flanker locked-on a TuAF F-16 for more than 5 minutes!

As already reported, this is not the first time Russian and U.S. aircraft come close to one another in the increasingly crowded airspace over Syria. In a few such incidents, Russian warplanes tailed U.S. Predator drones, at least a couple of times American aircraft reportedly changed their routing to deconflict with Russian aircraft.


http://theaviationist.com/2015/10/15/su-30-intercept-vid-us-aircraft/

First off: Beleiving RT, ever

Second: NATO pilots have standing orders to maintain a minimum distance of 20km from Russian jets over Syria. So i doubt that they would let a Russian get so close.

Conclusion: Meh, its all propaganda at this point (from all parties involved). The bullsh1t is stacked so high in Syria that I am suprised the jets are able to fly over it

lionel4power:
-- one company of paratroopers (100+ men)... 1 HMG/5 trooper =20 HMGs
-- 2 men can operate a mortar, so 10 mortars for 20+ men (support team)...

-- illite.rate a platoon is 12-24 men.

-- 2 HMG/truck, theres 4 trucks + 2 hornets = 10 HMGs

-- HMGs for other teams

-- use logic when making argument so you wouldnt sound foolish

So you basically confirm that these numbers are complete speculation and are not in anyway based on any actual fact?

Yet again we see Nigerian tacics on this forum: lots of words, very little fact

Centrifude:
Though the decision was political, I still think this could work for us if we play our cards right. I just hope our Government and people will try juggling the West and East as well as India , because they are doing it brilliantly, they have a good relationship with both sides.

I won't lie it would be awesome to see Su-35s or Mig-35s in S.A colours and maybe we could also do some SuperHind style upgrades on them, mixing western and eastern tech.

This Is a great opportunity for us because we're no longer expect to take sides, like in the past.

It would be great to add Some Locally built Su-35s because Russia will allow that for the right price ofcourse.

Don't look at it as the end of the world.

The only thing Russia has to offer that we dont allready have in terms of combat platforms is the Su34

The origional 1998 Defence Reveiwed for a compliment of heavy fighters (ie: Twin-engine air-superiority) but I doubt that will be acheivable for a very long time even if the nee DR is implimented

The only thing Russia has to offer is the Il-38 MPA, Let L-410, Il-78 Midas, Be-200 and tech transfer for things like Ratnik and some of their missile tech relating to improvements of range (since Denel is mainly focusing on improving the range of the Uhmkonto and A-darter in terms of the next development cycle).

Apart from that Russia has nothing that the West or Denel does not have a better version of.

To be completely honest the only thing that would make sense is some sort of tech transfer/patent rights for the Ratnik body armor system as it would slot neatly into the African warrior program. It would cut R& costs dramatically and is a highly capable system - all that is required is some fine tuning for African conditions and it would be ready to go.

lionel4power:
please stop giving excuses for your countries grand failure... its embarassing.

This protection force comprised a parachute combat team (a company of paratroopers and a support platoon with 12.7mm heavy machineguns and 81mm mortars), Special Forces teams with four 4x4 vehicles armed with machineguns and two Hornet vehicles armed with machineguns and 107mm multiple rocket launchers, tactical and electronic intelligence teams, signallers and engineers, for a total of 265 including the training teams.


-- a company of paratrooper (atleast) 20X 12.7mm HMG
-- a support platoon [12-24 men] 8-10X 81mm mortar
-- SF team with four 4x4 and 2x hornet with 8x 12.7mm and 2x 107mm rockets
-- tac/ ELINT TEAM with various weapons
-- Signal team with various weapons
-- Engineering team with various weapons
-- training team with various weapons


so what do you want? nuclear weapons?

-- Nigerian army would have taught those rebels a lesson of their life.

First, your numbers are completely ludicrous... 3 men man a mortar, a platoon is 16 men, same with the HMG's... so how does 16 men man 10 mortars AND 20 HMG's? You fvcking clown

Second, 200 v 3000... what outcome do you expect?

Nigerian army would have taught them a lesson? the same lesson you taught boko haram when only 4000 of them kicked 20 000 of your men out of over 40 towns and cities?

You are a joke

hahahaha


when i come online augunug runs away!

agaugust:
[s]Jane's defense 2015 report says SAAF drone inventory has been closed down, you are posting old photos of retired dead drones.

That Vulture drone photo in the bush, does your air force wear that uniform and operate inside the bush to fly drones?

The drone is CONFIRMED as army drone....

"The Vulture UAV will serve as the airborne forward observer for the artillery arm of the South African Army"

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/sandf-to-receive-first-unmanned-air-vehicle-later-this-year-2004-03-26

SAAF has no drone.

You don't even know the difference between an army man and air force man IN YOUR OWN SOUTH AFRICAN MILITARY where you claim to be an officer.

Now we all know you are fake[/s] !

Why does it matter who operates the drone?

You are moving the goalposts again

agaugust:
Army drone you ïmbëcile !

SAAF has NO drone, you fake air force officer !

Why does it matter who operates the drone?

Anyway, Seeker.

lionel4power:
did you read the article? it was clearly stated that the rebels had only AKs, RPGs and 23mm.

SANDF FAILED! .

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Did the SANDF have 23mm?

How did we fail? What objectives did we fail to meet?

agaugust:
[s]With your Gripen pilots not combat qualified? No.

1 F-7 is worth 10 SAAF Gripens[/s]

Who said they are not combat qualified?

agaugust:
[s]Nigeria's NAF actually has one of the lowest crash rates in the world.

We flew over 6,000 air war sorties this year and lost only 3 aircraft.

Let us see another African country fly 6,000 sorties in 9 months and we can then compare who crashes most.

SAAF did NOT fly one single combat sortie this year ! So how will we measure your crash rate when your air force is already dead and the corpse sent to Russia for resurrection?[/s]
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Citations needed for 6000 sorties

SAAF flew 18 000 hours last year

agaugust:
For a local customer not named yet. So prove to us that the said "local customer" is SAAF.

Your air force has no drone

Read the article

agaugust:
[s]That is NOT a dogfight you liar, it's a you tube video of a Hawk and Gripen at a public airshow.

Air forces don't do combat dogfight over the heads of civilian crowds in a city....you must be a clown indeed.

Lion Effort this year 2015 in Europe, SAAF was missing because the whitemen will not dogfight your unqualified pilots[/s]
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1. It is a dogfight
2. Citation needed for Lion Effort

Lots of words, very little fact - the Augbug style

agaugust:
[s]Your stuupidity does not allow you to understand the military principle of combat qualifying hours of flight.

A pilot needs, say 120 hours flight time every new year in combat training, to become combat qualified.

SAAF pilot flies only 20 hours per year during which he drops one bomb on empty sand space and claims he has become combat qualified.

How does dropping a bomb replace the shortage of 100 hours missing on his flying clock time ?

You don't understand simple logic, no wonder South African brains now need repair in Russia [/s]

Who says they are not combat qualified?

How can they be dogfighting and dropping bombs (things you do in combat) if they are not qualified?

agaugust:
You agree Beegeagle is a good source....you just posted his blog.

Are you saying it is a bad source?

agaugust:
False Sahara reporters stories were proved wrong by other reports from the battle field.

True your submarine spent 7 years in dry dock, dailymaverick did not say all of them.

Every source that does not favour SANDF is tagged as bad.

Daily Maverick said all of them.

agaugust:
[s]Go read list of crashes, 2 trainers crashed and 2 combat variant. Means we have 10 combat variants and 1 trainer today = 11 jets.

Then what about crashes? 2 Gripen jets in same airforce crashed in one month without including while trying to land like the F-7.

1. No report ever says NAF has pilot shortage for F-7, you created the lies, and you never posted a source.
2. Is your own Gripen trainer not combat capable?
3. SAAF pilots not qualified has been proved and sang like a song so much that it became top 10 hit on music charts[/s]
.

Cant you read?

I said I want citations, not your opinion.

You say allot of things, but when you are asked for proof you can never provide any.

agaugust:
[s]SANDF troops stood their grounds trembling inside French army base at the airport

New MoU signed just 3 months before the Seleka atacked, which I posted source today, expanded SANDF mandate to include protection of property and human lives.....but your elite paratroops + cowradly special forces ALL abandoned the people of C.A.R in their hour of need.

Go take lessons from Nigerian army, navy and air force 10 year long war of saving human lives in Liberia and Sierra Leone, our army battalions are still in those countries today 2015, we have stayed there for 25 years. !

South African military will NEVER achieve that, your courage always fails in your chicken heart in your chicken republic.[/s]

No, as I posted with citations it was not.

Do you really have nothing better to do with your life?

africaken:
no wonder we needed Cubans to fight for our fellow Africans

What benefit would fighting for ethiopia bring us?

If two African states want to fight it out, then fine, let them fight... its not in SADAC and it has nothing to do with us.

South Africa does not waste blood or treasure for fun.

africaken:
second scenario egypt attacks ethiopia because of the renaissance dam,ethiopia asks for help from african countries ...............................................

We send them body bags

Because if they are fighting Egypt then that is one thing they will need allot of