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agaugust:
Citation needed

Been provided.

Why are you wasting our time and avoiding the content of my argument with meaningless questions?

Do you have nothing more to offer us?

agaugust:
Dropping bombs on empty space on top of sand, any dummy can press button to release a bomb on a non existent target....just push one button.....even a mooronn with half education can push one simple button, your pilots are dullards and need Russian help.

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Which is exactly the same "combat" Nigerian pilots have seen!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


But what about dogfighting?How could unqualified be dogfighting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sVIIAwq270


Hear that? Its the sound of your argument collapsing under the sheer weight of its stu.pidity!

Henry120:
Epic!!!!

Epic Fail!!!*

Fixed that for you.

Henry, when will you answer my question?

agaugust:
Nope, we have only one trainer, and it is combat capable. Total is 11 F-7, with combat capable pilots having surplus combat flying hours.

Better than 9 Gripen pilots who are short of flying hours and not combat qualified.

A living dog is better than a dead lion.

Nope 3 are trainers
https://beegeagle./2010/07/26/nigerian-air-force-receive-last-batch-of-chinese-f7-ni-jets/

Now citatiosn for:
1. Nigeria having enough combat capable pilots
2. Trainer being combat capable
3. SAAF pilots not being qualified

As usual, you make allot of statements but provide no evidence. If you continue to do so, I shall take it as a sign of your defeat and leave. I have better things to do with my time than talk to children.

africaken:
angola is about to acquire 18 SU-30MKI

Good thing that Angola is one of our strongest Allies in SADAC

agaugust:
[s]Qualified from Gripen training course to take off and land. That does not make you combat qualified, you need standard combat training hours EVERY YEAR on the Gripen to become combat capable.

You said you are an air force officer....and I have to lecture you ? Wow ![/s]

Prove your claims.

You are making this same statement over and over. Yet you can never provide any proof.

Stinks of desperation.

SAAF>NAF

agaugust:
....goes there together with South African air force

Says the Nigerian who's airforces best platform is a 50 year old design which crashes about once per year

Even with just ~9 Grip pilots: SAAF > NAF

How does it feel? How does it feel to know that even when we are running at our lowest capability - and you are at war - that we are still superior?

HAHAHAHAHA

"People in glass houses..."

agaugust:
Thanks for agreeing that Cuba and Russia training will NOT qualify any new Gripen pilot for SAAF. You travel to learn basic flying in tiny Cuba.

Yes, the batch sent to Cuba will be doing that.

The 10 sent to Russia will be doing lead-in training in preperation for their Gripen training.

Are you so incredibly stu.pid that you think you have scored points with this post? Are you really this dense?

agaugust:

"The majority of those going to Russia are qualified pilots but are short of flying hours to build their experience base. The lack of flying hours, also a result of a tight budget, has contributed in no small measure to this."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41029&catid=111&Itemid=242

SAAF has ZERO combat qualified Gripen pilots, they can only do take off and landing or public ceremonial shows like Mandela's Funeral.

SAAF is dead.

Yes jackass, it says THOSE PILOTS are short of hours. They is why they are going to Russia.

It does not say ALL Gripen pilots are short of hours

Are you illiterate or simply being disingenuous?

Weird that "unqualified"pilots are dropping bombs then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNZjshXMfNE

Henry120:
So, You had budget issues for 16 years, and got stuck with 9 pilots and 0 combat qualified.


We do, CH-3A, MI-35M & MI-17 terminator1sh are all 4 GEN aircrafts.

Again, who says 0 are combat qualified??

9 pilots right now, soon to be 19 when the next batch completes their training.

Weird that "unqualified" pilots would be having dogfights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sVIIAwq270

None of those are 4th Gen fighters, none are as good as the Rooivalk and we just orderd the Seeker drone

Now answer the question: why does Nigeria, in this year of 2015, have ZERO 4th Gen aircraft?

agaugust:
You posted rubbish !

First vehicle Sherpa is fully protected and armoured all round, NOT open sided and soft skin like your Hornet. You actually posted a vehicle similar to VBL with full body cover and bullet proof protection all round. Fool

Second vehicle VPS, is NOT a combat vehicle, it is an SF patrol vehicle as specified by manufacturer, patrol NOT combat for special forces.

You posted Rubbish.....and Hornet too is NOT any SF vehicle, it is manufacturer specified as a simple Rapid Deployement Vehicle like the VBL too is Rapid Deployment, just that VBL is better with full armour protection and amphibious capability.

You lose Patches !

hahahaha

I lose when you prove that French Special forces use the VBL

Both vehicals I posted have more in common with the Wasp than the VBL

and again, you dont seem to understand how the Wasp or other such vehicals fit into what SF do. This is probably because you have no idea what special forces actually are.

agaugust:
You are a liar, SANDF mission was signed and sealed on documents, mission included protecting property and saving human lives. PROVED :

"The new agreement detailed in the diplomatic note now comes under scrutiny. The diplomatic notes provide for the ‘reinforcement of the South African Contingent for self-defence, protection of property and saving of human lives in Bangui’. The expanded scope of cooperation to include – self-defence, protection of property and saving of human lives. "

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-04-18-car-debacle-da-gunning-for-zuma/#.Vh1gT_lViko

No wonder even Sudan rifle boys in Toyota scares SANDF.....your army always remember defeat and humiliation by Seleka AK-47 rifles
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It was confirmed by the Minister that only military assets were being protected.
https://pmg.org.za/committee-meeting/15658/

Minister of Defence > Daily Maverick

Why the fvck you Nigerians keep posting the Daily Maverick as a reputable source I will never know.

Now stop wasting our time by arguing about things you know nothing about

And FYI, in Sudan, our boys recently fought their way out a of huge rebel ambush - so I doubt you could say we are "scared"

agaugust:
SANDF mission included staying long term in C A.R to protect human lives, that is the final MoU mandate signed 3 months before Seleka attacked.

[s]SANDF elite paratroopers and Special Forces all abandoned mission objective since almost 3 years now, you ran away permanently from where your country signed agreement to stay and protect human lives.

Cowards for life, your troops got medal awards at home for Olympic speed running from Seleka to hide under French soldiers protection[/s]
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That was not the mission you liar.

The mission was:

1. Train Bozize's military
2. Protect the men training his military and South African equipment

Your argument is thus meaningless

agaugust:
You are the ones in South African glass houses throwing stones at other black African countries.

Nigeria has 11 F-7 jets they are 3.5th Gen aircraft with 4th Generation radar and missiles.

Good enough to defeat 9 SAAF Gripen pilots who are only qualified to fly but NOT qualified for combat due to below standard flying hours and very poor flying skills that need to be re-trained in tiny Cuba and Russia.

How low South African military has fallen !
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No.

You only have 10 now

and 3 are just trainers

Meaning you have only 8 combat worthy jets and they are by no means "4th gen" or "3.5 gen"

Who says that our Gripen pilots are not combat qualified? You? bwaaahahaha!!

Just 8 Gripen pilots and we are still better than you will ever be! Pathetic peasant nation and rebel worthy airforce!

SAAF = 9 4th Gen platforms operational (soon to be 19)
NAF = ZERO 4th gen platforms (at all) with no end in sight!

Henry120:
Jln115, why does the SAAF have only 9 pilots for the Gripen after 16 years. I've been trying to get an answer frrom Patrick, but the clown has been unable to answer.

Budget issues - which will be rectified by the defence reveiw


Why does Nigeria, in the year of 2015, not posses any 4th gen fighters?

I have been asking since last night but you seem to be unable to answer.

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Henry120:
Problem is, none of them are combat qualified.

Says so?

Here we go again, Henry120 is going to repeat the same phrase over and over whilst contributing nothing at all

iblawi:
Citation that we bought only 10 F7.

We bought 12 single seat and 3 trainer making a total of 15 F7Ni.

15 F7 - 4 F7 that crashed =11 F7 left.

11 -3 trainers = 8 combat worthy jets

agaugust:
Russia and Cuba have no Gripen jets or Gripen simulators so they CANNOT train a Gripen pilot to fly a Gripen.

This means SAAF Gripen pilots are so incompetent they have been sent back to learn the general basics of flying in Cuba and Russia.

Tiny Cuban island produces military men smarter brained than you South Africans

What Russia and Cuba are giving SAAF is basic flying course on Russian aircraft. It doesn't qualify anybody to fly Gripen.

You should know that if you are truly an air force officer.....or are you a fake as we suspect?
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Lead-in and basic flight training do not require Gripen or have anything to do with Gripen

Is the Hawk a Gripen?
Is a P-7 a Gripen?

Jackass

iblawi:

"Four of only the handful of jet fighter pilots in the SAAF have resigned leaving the force with three times as many Gripens as qualified pilots for them," the paper said.

This guy dull Sha.

The Gripens are three times the number of pilots.

No of Gripens= 26

26/3 = ?

Answer it yourself.

They are guessing

If they knew how many they would say so

agaugust:
[size=13pt] October 13, 2015, just yesterday on defenceweb

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41029&catid=111&Itemid=242 [/size]

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They dont specifically state how many pilots

They are estimating

agaugust:
[size=13pt] 2015 Current date evidence....SAAF has ONLY 9 Gripen pilots and all short of standard flying hours[/size]



SAAF WRECKED

https://you.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/zummy-zuma-300x225.jpg



http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41029&catid=111&Itemid=242
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No one said they were short of hours.

Fact is: we have 9 Gripen, you only have 10 F7 of which 3 are trainers.

You are STILL worse than us!!!

agaugust:
French special forces only got VPS in year 2008. What vehicle have French special forces been using since 20 years ago ? Fool with zero logic.

WRECKED !!!

Your job is to post, with citations, what the used since 20 years ago.

We are not having a logical argument, we are having a FACTUAL argument.

agaugust:
Portuguese national flag on the VBL....failed South African education....he only knows Zulu flag

Who says its Portugese SF?

agaugust:
Run flat has inserts. Tubeless has none, that is the type on your Hornet vehicle, basic civilian grade tubeless tyres.

Ok so you dont know how runflats work then

You truly are of peasant stock

agaugust:
[s]All those propaganda liars did not do any military reconnaissance and intelligence gatherings in Bangui, that's why they manufacture figures from 2,000 to even more ridiculous 7,000 Seleka.

French army intelligence report from inside Bangui said between 1,000 to 1,500 Seleka rebels.

Best source from battlefield.

CASE CLOSED.[/s]

Early reports

Janes correspondents arent propaganda liars

agaugust:
Give us citation to prove that French SF do not use any of the VBL that their army have in thousands. Citation needed
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No, I.diot that is what YOU are supposed to do to defeat my point

Lol, argumet over

agaugust:
You start it, attach citations to ALL the photos of SF vehicles you have been posting for the past two days to prove they are SF. Start the show now .

http://www.armyrecognition.com/french_army_france_wheeled_armoured_vehicle_uk/sherpa_light_sf_special_forces_4x4_armored_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_specifications_information_pictures_video_12007153.html

http://www.armyrecognition.com/serval_operation_mali_french_army/french_armed_forces_control_major_part_of_mali_after_3_weeks_since_start_operation_serval_0102131.html

Now post yours

lionel4power:
NO here are the facts!!

-- your countryman @fighterpilot said the hornet is used for delivering heavy firepower in the frontline... so you mean he's lying? no problem

-- yes superior firepower, what did the rebels possess? AKs and RPG, 23mms light arms.

-- did the rebels possess any MRLS?

-- YOU SOLDIERS RETREATED... MISSION FAILED!!!

Retreat does not define success or failure, we met ALL OBJECTIVES mission was a success

Do you have an inventory of Rebel weapons systems?

Henry120:
None of them are combat qualified.

What GEN is that?

Says who?

SAAF = 9 4th Gen
NAF = 0

These are the facts

Henry120:
Actually 9 Gripen Pilots, not Gripen jets.

None of the pilots are combat qualified.

In actual reality, you have 0 GEN fighter jets.

Who says they are not combat qualified?

Fact remains: Nigeria = 0 4th Gen

Still doing worse than us!!

Henry120:
26 Gripens

9 Gripen Pilots

16 years.

Pathetic!

Nigeria

0 4th Gen fighters

10 Fighters

5 Crashes

Now thats pathetic!!

[size=15pt]How does it feel to know that with only 9 Gripen we are still better than the NAF?[/size]