₦airaland Forum

iblawi:
[s]
Looks like this man is confused.
We lead South Africa in any form of communication.
Do you even know how many submarine cable link Nigeria to the world?

Do you know the amount your mtn make here is more than what all telecommunications companies your country generate as a whole?

Do you know I subscribe with about $10 for 4.5gb worth of data on glo and other networks monthly?

Always try to get fact before making comment. [/s]

quantity =/= quality

If you want to adress me, provide citations.

Until then... jog on mate

lezz:
[s]No son, but I am amazed at you. A white boy turned zulu butt licker.

2 decades of ANC rule has turned you into a yellow turkey . Hope you have got enough tan to hide your shame.

But be rest assured them Zulus are noisy rodents, your family land is secured.

Now to your claims. The average black south African earns roughly 4000 US dollars anually. That is less than 6 times what 7% whites earn and about 2% for Indians. What a shame. 49 million xenophobic blacks of cowards and idiocy.

https://africacheck.org/reports/race-poverty-and-inequality-black-first-land-first-claims-fact-checked/[/s]

THIS IS NOT A VALID REPLY

[size=15pt]FACT:
Average (black) household income in south Africa: $8000
average household income in Nigeria: $6000[/size]

"lazy, undeducated slaves" earn more than Nigerias "educated, hardworking freemen"

Thus: Which would you rather be?

Citations:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/12/06/chart-of-the-week-how-south-africa-changed-and-didnt-over-mandelas-lifetime/ http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/nigerias-middle-class-how-we-live-and-what-we-want-from-life/

lezz:
[s] Nigeria leads Africa in Internet usage and penetration simple. Whatever way you choose to coin it is of no significance or reckoning.

Egypt is 2nd. While old lady south Africa is 3rd.

Now what's interesting?

BY 2018 NIGERIA WILL HAVE 87 MILLION INTERNET USERS.

WHILE SOUTH AFRICA WILL HAVE JUST 30 MILLION.

WHO IS LEADING AFRICA, FROM NOW TO THE DISTANT FUTURE?

Join me to scream Nigeria.

Check out the global list below.[/s]

Nope, you are leading Africa by population and that is all.

South Africa has the highest African penetration
--Internet access by % of population:
Nigeria - 37%
South Africa - 46%
http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users-by-country/

South Africa has faster connection speeds
--Average National connection speed:
Nigeria: 2.9 mb/s
South Africa:3.4 mb/s
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/11798027/Mapped-The-world-according-to-Internet-connection-speeds.html


Yet again, speaking factually - YOU ARE IN OUR SHADOW

lezz:
Listen punky punk, I'll come back for you after office time.

Nigeria is the 10th Internet user in the world and number 1 in Africa.

Stupid daft.

Because you have the largest population in Africa.

Internet access by % of population:
Nigeria - 37%
South Africa - 46%
http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users-by-country/

Average National connection speed:
Nigeria: 2.9 mb/s
South Africa: 3.4 mb/s
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/11798027/Mapped-The-world-according-to-Internet-connection-speeds.html

Yet again... you are in our shadow!
#SendNigeriaSomeInternet

This is hilarious! You arent even good at trolling!

Hahahahahah

lionel4power:
remember we don't insult on this thread.

hinting of mental illness on a member of this thread just to further unknown motives is frowned upon.

we all know this.
.
.
a counter insult will be properly dished out at the other thread. you can take that to the bank.

Frum simply pointed out a major inconsistency in the behavior of a group member - which is relevant because it goes to character and provides insight into the individuals motives.

Remember when this thread was brought to its knees by the mindless "who invented the MRAP" argument? Remeber when said member on THIS FORUM (not the "Who in Africa is the best at insulting other militaries thread" refused to accept evidence to the contrary?

Well now we know why.

rugged7:
YOU want to bring abuse to this thread as well init?
What is it with you guys from down under
Do u just derive joy from uncouth behavior or did u just not get breast milk from ur mommy??

Whats the problem?

If I say one thing here and then say the complete opposite on another platform, then you illustrating this to forum members is not an insult - its fact and it demonstrates motive.

So, for example, with myself, if I say the T72 is a P.O.S you know it is because I literally beleive that statement to be true. Whereas, with certain other members they may say that a certain piece of equipment is a P.O.S simply because of the negative-bias they have towards the country who operates it and not due to the quality of the item in question.

Pics unrelated

EVarn:
lol,this thread has gone to hell.
@lezz,what offence did these southies commit that warrants this indiscriminate verbal massacre; I nearly cried for patches and dictator zoo when I saw the way you beat them to pulp and hung then out to dry.

So, words impress you?

Facts? no, you dont like those - because they paint a veeeery different picture

You prefer the mindless rhetoric of a verbose clown?

Pathetic pathetic pathetic

rugged7:
Shoo, these south africans no get work?? Na everyday dem go just siddon for nairaland dey open their dirty, smelly mouth?

All these unemployed zulus drunk on local gin...

@Lezz, please and please, have mercy on them naaa

The way you are degrading and dis-articulating these south african rejects is not fair naa

ONLY YOU dey handle 6 at once??

BROS U 2 MUCH O

Be like na waffi u 4 grow up sha.

More grease to your elbows Jor!!

20 GBOSAS for my oga at the top @LEZZ

2015

Being amazed that a troll can be good at trolling

Y'all dont get much internet in nigeria do you?

lezz:
Nigeria is still growing by 2.3 % while your South Africa declined by 1.3 %.

You're just a blind simpleton of an _idiot who can't tell facts from wishes.

Lol

Our Gdp grew by 1,9% this year

This guy can't even read a chart correctly

[size=15pt]FACT OF THE DAY

Average (black) household income in south Africa: $8000
average household income in Nigeria: $6000

THATS RIGHT!!

The "uneducated, lazy slaves" earn more than the "enlightened, hardworking freemen"

Yet again we see one country in the shadow of another

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Citations:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/12/06/chart-of-the-week-how-south-africa-changed-and-didnt-over-mandelas-lifetime/ http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/nigerias-middle-class-how-we-live-and-what-we-want-from-life/

lezz:
Your opinion is irrelevant. You will deny your own mother in exchange for a fleeting moment of self-righteousness. SMH

Problem is that I post FACT nit OPINION

lionel4power:
okay... so whats your point?

I think his point is evident

lezz:
Oh, Daily counter points :

You took the bait eventually . Patrick my slave.
I can sure swing your emotions like a car''s faulty fuel gauge.

Let me make you suffer once more

1) South Africa is the most unequal country in the world with a wealth distribution ration of 7% percent whites 85% destitute blacks.
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/archive/sa-most-unequal-country-on-earth-report-ahead-of-d/

2) For your educational system ,please read this : South Africa spends 20% of its budget on education, or 6.4% of GDP (considerably more than many other emerging market economies) and yet performs dismally in international comparisons. The World Economic Forum’s competitiveness index for 2012–2013 ranks South Africa’s overall education system at 140 out of 144 countries, and its maths and science education at 143 out of 144.

The minister of basic education, Angie Motshekga, denies there is a crisis. She must be blind: 1.2m children were enrolled in grade 1 in 2001, but only 44% stayed in the system to take their National Senior Certificate (NSC) in 2012. Only 12% of that grade 1 cohort ended up passing their NSC well enough to study for a university degree; and only 11% passed maths with a mark of 40% or above
http://gga.org/stories/editions/aif-15-off-the-mark/education-in-south-africa-where-did-it-go-wrong


3) You boast of an advanced economy that is underperforming even by African standards

An economy that shrinks and has been predicted negatively by all reputable international analyst. I can't see Japan boasting to China how advance its economy is. Your advance economy is for your 5 % white masters why the rest of the country is at par with Somalia and Burundi.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-25/south-africa-s-economic-woes-worsen-as-gdp-contracts-1-3-

4) South Africans are amongst the most uncivilised group in all of Africa, from zulu chanting xenophobic slaves who take pap and meat , to raping anything in sight including 89 year old women and 3 months infants.

South Africa are a group of hungry immigrant whites and tree-hopping baboon-bellowing zulus. The whites were forced by the rest of humanity to stop official racism, while the blacks are officially the last slaves of humanity. Xenophobic dogs.
South Africa is :
Drug headquarters
Rapę headquarters
Xenophobia headquarters
Murder headquarters
Crime headquarters
You want more ?


5 diplomacy? You have so much diplomacy yet you had to bribe to host a world cup when Nigeria challenged you to it ? Building blocks of embassies across the globe doesn't count for influence. Rookie. All your embassies were pre-apartheid attempts to keep the apartheid regime for as long as was possible.

Your diplomacy plus Mandela couldn't help you when a Nigerian military ruler positioned the rest of Africa to isolate you in 1996. History has recorded it as the Nigerian debacle.


6) mentioning brics and g20 means you still live in the past. Your gdp got you there and now it is irrelevant. Your MPs will look foolish and unsure when they attend such gatherings hence forth. You can't represent Africa anymore, son. You have lost big time. The size of your economy that got you in there has all withered away. Bwahahaha.



South Africa is a mere 50 million with a epileptic economy, inequality, escalating HIV rate amongst the population, poor school attendants, drug issues, social unrest and insecurities, high murder rates.

You are a nation of self-hype. Take off your rainbow blinders and see that south Africa is a nation of self-delusion and empty rhetorics

A nation of BEE : incompetence, official theft and unproductivity.

Allow leadership to come to you naturally and never by baseless ambition.


But the truth is even if Nigeria were to be wiped off the face of Africa, south Africa isn't next ; you aren't a natural leader.

N.B: PLEASE SHOW US WHAT CONDITIONS WERE MET BEFORE PRETORIA RETURN THE 15 MILLION ARMS MONEY. YOUR OWN PRESS SAY ZUMA TOOK THE CHANCE TO MEND FENCES WITH NIGERIA AND START
ON A NEW PAGE. ZUMA KNOWS WHO'S BOSS AND WHAT S. A STANDS TO LOSE.

http://mg.co.za/article/2015-04-09-jacob-zumas-cash-plan-to-schmooze-nigeria



Sorry to ruffle your insecure feathers. Keep searching g for your elusive victory.

Lezz

You provided no counter points

No one cares about your opinion come at me with facts, faggit

lezz:
[s]I can't blame you for being a poor history student. I honestly dont expect more from a Zulu. After all when most of Africa was free of colonialism, Zulus were still up in the trees and high in jungles and deep in the caves away form civilization . The rest of Africa had to rally round to preserve what is left of the humanity of Zulus


Alright take your history 101: Nigerians are not xenophobic. We are accommodating because we are self-secured and believe no one superior to us. We don't blame foreigners for any short coming. We tackle it head on.

In the '80 illegal Ghanaians were deported by THE GOVERNMENT AND CONVEYED FREELY LIKE EVERY CIVILISED NATIONS DO.


SOUTH AFRICA ON THE OTHER HAND ARE A GROUP OF CRIMINALS, ENVIOUSLY INFERIOR, LACKING IN SELF-WORTH AND ASSESSMENT, SUFFERING FROM 400 YEARS OF APARTHEID SYNDROME AND ALWAYS SUSPICIOUS OF ANY HUMAN BETTER THAN THEM.

THUS, IN 3 SEPARATE ATTACKS SPANNING 6 YEARS , SOUTH AFRICANS HAD SUCCESSFULLY RAIDED AND KILLED FOREIGNERS AND CATERED AWAY THEIR PROPERTIES AND BELONGING WITHOUT A HINT OF SHAME.

I'M TEMPTED TO BELIEVE THAT THE HORMONES OF SOUTH AFRICANS ARE ALIEN TO THE EMOTIONS OF SHAME AND PRIDE.


SO MUCH PAP AND DAGGA[/s]

Nigerians complain of xenophobia, yet

After a bloody civil war that involved genocide

A brutal dictatorship that killed millions

A Niger delta crises that has killed thousands

A book haram insurgency that has killed over 30 000 and displaced over a million

They come say we are inferior because we kick foreigners out of our land?

Lol, we butcher foreigners
Nigerians butcher themselves

rugged7:
Imagine a POT, calling a kettle pink...

Wonders shall never end.

LISTEN, don't u ever drag me into your mentions- EVER

You saffers are lower than animals and i won't dignify u with any conversation.

If u know whatz good for your mother...

KEEP OFF

ATURU

Meanwhile @Lezz, WELL DONE o Jare!

Calls us lower than animals

Proceeds to threaten my mother

I think we know who the animal is - @rugged7

lezz:
And Wikipedia is your source ? Patrick when are you ever going to look yourself in the mirror and realise you're a desperate fact twister.

If a failed state manages to out grow you economically for the last decade ?

If your country has a trade deficit to a failed state

And Zuma scrambling to attend the inauguration of Nigeria's new president as a failed state what do we them classify south Africa?

Haha haha! !!!

He thinks economic indecies are the only measure of statehood

[size=15pt]Daily Reminder:[/size]

1. We did not scurry to return the money, we did so after you agreed to our terms.

2. How irrelevant is a country like Nigeria "the biggest economy in Africa" has only got a government revenue of $22 billion... while little old South Africa has a government revenue of $87 billion - OUR GOVERNMENT HAS 4X THE CAPITAL YOURS DOES
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

3. Mass population growth = mass problems. You are bigger than us, yet we have more money than you... whom is better off?

4. We have the most advanced economy on the continent

5. We have the most developed country on the continent
http://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploads/afdb/Documents/Publications/Economic_Brief_-_The_Africa_Infrastructure_Development_Index.pdf

6. We are amongst the most developed people on the continent - Nigerians amongst the least
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

7. We are the most technologically advanced country on the continent
http://answersafrica.com/top-10-most-technologically-advanced-countries-in-africa.html/2

8. You talk of literacy?
Literacy rate RSA: 86%
Literacy rate NIG: 68%
http://theafricaneconomist.com/ranking-of-african-countries-by-literacy-rate-zimbabwe-no-1/#.VjdjZvkrLcc

It is Nigeria whom is illiterate and mis-informed

But why stop there? Lets continue shall we!

Lets talk about diplomacy:

9. South Africa has 134 foreign embassies and comissions within its borders, Nigeria only 98

10. South Africa is a member of BRICS, Nigeria is not

11. South Africa is a member of the G20, Nigeria is not

[size=15pt]As you can see, by every measurable means, South Africa dwarfs Nigeria... you are children before us, children with delusions of grandeur, who play little games and think they are kings. You celebrate your "victories" and we just laugh, knowingly, you celebrate bullying MTN into paying a huge fine... we laugh as the International Markets draw a big red line through your countries name.

We rub shoulders with the rulers of the world. You rub shoulders with Boko Haram and Block Boys. Common thugs, the laughing stock of the world. [/size]

lezz:
[s]Europeans didn't stay long or built anything substantial because they realised we are no slave magnets- unlike you.

We gave them a quit notice and rendered their administration fruitless. You guys were bunch of savage spear-welding Neanderthals, hopping from tree to tree like baboons. So the Europeans settled and claimed everything that's yours

That include your identity, your heritage and history. What the _fuck kind of a name is South Africa?

Today The whole of black south Africa can only claim to have just one billionaire. The town of kleinfontein is walled that no black South African can venture beyond its gates.

Son, you're the poster child for modern slavery and destitution.

If I read again any mention from you or any south African about backwardness, I shall remind you that you're the scum of humanity and the most primitive group in all of Africa.

Not even cave men loot and kill foreigners like south Africans, nor do we have sub humans who can't _fuck properly except it be by ræpe.

Nigerians thought you how to run and manage your firms, companies and how to look the white man in the face.
You claim to own the economy of a country that's almost twice bigger than yours.


A country your own country imports more than it exports to. Your trade deficit to Nigeria is staggering, you ignorant zulu dimwit.

How can Nigerians wish to be south Africa where any black man is a quasi -slave
Where a black man is without any sense of history
Or heritage and identity.

To be a south African is to be a burden and scum to humanity. Primitive, drug-sniffing,xenophobic, unproductive , incompetent and lazy people.


Funny how it took just 2 decades to destroy everything your white masters built for you.

Fresh Zulu monkeys from the caves of zulu natal peeing on the paved streets of joburg and cape Town.

You're just as ignorant as a zulu in his bush hut.[/s]

[size=15pt]
Lezz continues to give us his opinion

I walk in

I Drop a citation:

Nigeria is verging on being a failed state
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Fragile_States_Index

And then I laugh and laugh and laugh

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rugged7:
Which holes are all these xenophobic south african pigs crawling out of today??

Anyway, they are not worth bovine excrement.

@Lezz, well done jor

Complimenting a troll

LOL

lezz:
Patrick, you're suffering from dyslexia and selective amnesia Or are you citation-blind?

All the citations are in my response to your long post of emotional narrative on this very page.


But an e-fraud like you would always play dumb.

Your sentimentality always goes further than your ability to provide facts.

Nairaland's chief pharisee.

None of your citations deal with the points I raised

you can shift the goalposts as much as you want, it will not help you score any goals

lezz:
You have a penchant for being shamelessly stiffnaked.

You claim south Africa's education is superb and I brought you figures that ranked southafrican education 140 out of 144 countries And your science and technology grades were ranked 143 out of 144 countries .Your pupils are mass failures as pass marks had to be reduced to 30 percent.


You claim to have an advanced economy yet for over 7 years your economy is faring worse than any African country. Your wealth distribution is the worst in Africa.


You claimed to be the most civilized in Africa yet no African country can muster xenophobia with ease and frequency like south Africa.

Neither do we have Africans mass ræping 89 year old great grand mothers except south Africans.

You claimed to have the biggest influence in Africa (a title that belongs to Egypt by the way) by counting embassies around the world, yet you had to bribe to host a world cup that was narrowed down to only African countries. SMH. NIGERIA EFFORTLESSLY ISOLATED SOUTH AFRUCA TWICE IN AFRICA.

YOU POINT TO BRICK AND G20. hmm old scores from depleted statistics that's no longer relevant.


How do you want your funeral ? Should I behead you and you miraculously still be able to see your detached head in my hand before you know you stand defeated, bamboozled and destroyed by me?

Patrick, the big toad with rainbow blinders.

I asked you to give us the conditions Nigeria met before Pretoria released the 15 million alms money.

Lying , disgusting _idiot of a quack.

Lots of words

No citations

You have yet to counter me

Conditions you Nigerians had to meet before we released the money have been posted on this thread

Pass the sunblock, you won't be needing it in the shade

frumentius:
I really could care less about the penile-measurement on that other ridiculous thread; but to the poster who sent me a PM, here's the MAMBA spec'd for C2. And yes, Nigerian officers I know confirm their Cobra Otokar has no such system. In fact, the Nigerian military does not yet possess a Command and Control system anywhere near Chaka.

Just how integrated into Chaka are, say, command Ratels

lezz:
You took the bait eventually . Patrick my slave.
[s]I can sure swing your emotions like a car''s faulty fuel gauge.

Let me make you suffer once more

1) South Africa is the most unequal country in the world with a wealth distribution ration of 7% percent whites 85% destitute blacks.
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/archive/sa-most-unequal-country-on-earth-report-ahead-of-d/

2) For your educational system ,please read this : South Africa spends 20% of its budget on education, or 6.4% of GDP (considerably more than many other emerging market economies) and yet performs dismally in international comparisons. The World Economic Forum’s competitiveness index for 2012–2013 ranks South Africa’s overall education system at 140 out of 144 countries, and its maths and science education at 143 out of 144.

The minister of basic education, Angie Motshekga, denies there is a crisis. She must be blind: 1.2m children were enrolled in grade 1 in 2001, but only 44% stayed in the system to take their National Senior Certificate (NSC) in 2012. Only 12% of that grade 1 cohort ended up passing their NSC well enough to study for a university degree; and only 11% passed maths with a mark of 40% or above
http://gga.org/stories/editions/aif-15-off-the-mark/education-in-south-africa-where-did-it-go-wrong


3) You boast of an advanced economy that is underperforming even by African standards

An economy that shrinks and has been predicted negatively by all reputable international analyst. I can't see Japan boasting to China how advance its economy is. Your advance economy is for your 5 % white masters why the rest of the country is at par with Somalia and Burundi.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-25/south-africa-s-economic-woes-worsen-as-gdp-contracts-1-3-

4) South Africans are amongst the most uncivilised group in all of Africa, from zulu chanting xenophobic slaves who take pap and meat , to raping anything in sight including 89 year old women and 3 months infants.

South Africa are a group of hungry immigrant whites and tree-hopping baboon-bellowing zulus. The whites were forced by the rest of humanity to stop official racism, while the blacks are officially the last slaves of humanity. Xenophobic dogs.
South Africa is :
Drug headquarters
Rapę headquarters
Xenophobia headquarters
Murder headquarters
Crime headquarters
You want more ?


5 diplomacy? You have so much diplomacy yet you had to bribe to host a world cup when Nigeria challenged you to it ? Building blocks of embassies across the globe doesn't count for influence. Rookie. All your embassies were pre-apartheid attempts to keep the apartheid regime for as long as was possible.

Your diplomacy plus Mandela couldn't help you when a Nigerian military ruler positioned the rest of Africa to isolate you in 1996. History has recorded it as the Nigerian debacle.


6) mentioning brics and g20 means you still live in the past. Your gdp got you there and now it is irrelevant. Your MPs will look foolish and unsure when they attend such gatherings hence forth. You can't represent Africa anymore, son. You have lost big time. The size of your economy that got you in there has all withered away. Bwahahaha.



South Africa is a mere 50 million with a epileptic economy, inequality, escalating HIV rate amongst the population, poor school attendants, drug issues, social unrest and insecurities, high murder rates.

You are a nation of self-hype. Take off your rainbow blinders and see that south Africa is a nation of self-delusion and empty rhetorics

A nation of BEE : incompetence, official theft and unproductivity.

Allow leadership to come to you naturally and never by baseless ambition.


But the truth is even if Nigeria were to be wiped off the face of Africa, south Africa isn't next ; you aren't a natural leader.

N.B: PLEASE SHOW US WHAT CONDITIONS WERE MET BEFORE PRETORIA RETURN THE 15 MILLION ALMS MONEY. YOUR OWN PRESS SAY ZUMA TOOK THE CHANCE TO MEND FENCES WITH NIGERIA AND START ON A NEW PAGE. ZUMA KNOWS WHO'S BOSS AND WHAT S. A STANDS TO LOSE.

http://mg.co.za/article/2015-04-09-jacob-zumas-cash-plan-to-schmooze-nigeria



Sorry to ruffle your insecure feathers. Keep searching g for your elusive victory.[/s]

I dont see you refuting any of the statements I made.

Enjoy life in the shade - because the sun shines squarly on South Africa, you shall forever be in our shadow

Proven by fact and fact alone.

agaugust:
You were first to claim South Africa sold T-72 to Algeria, you FAILED to post one single citation of the sales, you coloreds are even more fraudulent than Zulus, and even less intelligent, ZERO achievement by Cape Colony coloreds except fabricating lies daily.




There is NO SINGLE CITATION in your post, white boy with dull Zulu brain

1. Cobra weight is dependent on load, yes it's minimum weight is 4,800 kg so Oryx will carry it.

"Max Weight: 6,200 kilogram
Min Weight: 4,800 kilogram"

http://www.deagel.com/Tactical-Vehicles/Cobra_a000678001.aspx

2. Oryx carries 6,000 kg on external sling you dummy !

"Oryx was first launched in 1991 as a transport helicopter for the SAAF. It can accommodate a crew of three members, 20 fully equipped troops or six wounded personnel on stretchers with four attendants. Oryx can carry 6,000kg of cargo on the external sling."

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/atlas-oryx/

3. Post a citation that says South Africa sold T-72 tanks to Algeria. You cannot sell T-72 to Algeria when the tanks were purchased from Russia, your youtube video says you upgraded them with fire control electronics, does that mean you own that tank and sold it? White people can be so fraudulent like you?

STOP MAKING YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A WHITE FOOL

agaugust:
1. Cobra weight is dependent on load, yes it's minimum weight is 4,800 kg so Oryx will carry it.
"Max Weight: 6,200 kilogram
Min Weight: 4,800 kilogram"
http://www.deagel.com/Tactical-Vehicles/Cobra_a000678001.aspx
Weapons station type and weight is a matter of user choice, Browning heavy machine gun weighs only about 40 kg, add to Cobra you have 4,840 kg and even if you say it's 5,200 kg, add Browning gun and its 5,240 kg so Oryx will carry it.
2. Oryx carries 6,000 kg on external sling according to air force technology, I don't care what Mi-17 carries, it's not the topic of argument.
"Oryx was first launched in 1991 as a transport helicopter for the SAAF. It can accommodate a crew of three members, 20 fully equipped troops or six wounded personnel on stretchers with four attendants. Oryx can carry 6,000kg of cargo on the external sling."
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/atlas-oryx/
Mamba does not have Cobra's interior instrumentation technology, TV camera, night vision equipment, amphibious capability, etc. Mamba is just an MRAP like a city transport bus for carrying people and saving them from land mines. It's far inferior technology compared to the Cobra's hi-tech capabilities loaded in the interior
.
.

Max weight on cargo hook: 4.5mt
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5911:zz&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159


Cobra Min weight: 4.8mt (according to you)

Thus (according to you) the Cobra is not an LAV

Argument over.

lezz:
Shut up, Patrick, nairaland 's most insecure Denisovan.

[s]Tell Zuma how irrelevant Nigeria is as Pretoria scurried to return the $15 alms deal money, As Zulu hierarchy scramble for the next available fligh to Lagos to plead for mtn to breath.

How irrelevant is Nigeria that your country has a substantial trade deficit worth over 40 billion.

How irrelevant is a country that has the largest economy on mother continent with a population 4 times yours whose youths are over 70%.

The difference between Nigeria and south Africa is we have a goal in sight and we pursue this goal with no hint of self'-delusion .


South Africa on the other hand is a confused mix of frightened Botha descendants and a large Zulu population, most of which are illiterate, misinformed and under the false impression that pre-apartheid south Africa is same as today's south Africa.

Your political class are made up of Zulu illiterates whose road-side drinking skills got them political offices.


You Patrick are an imbecilitated white man who has been social and emotionally conditioned to think , act and talk like a Zulu. You are a conquered man

You're empty, frightened and carrying a huge lug of Nigeria- phobia.
Reality will soon kill you.[/s]

No one cares about your opinion. I have debunked your statements so many times that I no longer derive any please from exposing the empty rhetoric of your posts.

But one last time shall we?

1. We did not scurry to return the money, we did so after you agreed to our terms.

2. How irrelevant is a country like Nigeria "the biggest economy in Africa" has only got a government revenue of $22 billion... while little old South Africa has a government revenue of $87 billion - OUR GOVERNMENT HAS 4X THE CAPITAL YOURS DOES
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

3. Mass population growth = mass problems. You are bigger than us, yet we have more money than you... whom is better off?

4. We have the most advanced economy on the continent

5. We have the most developed country on the continent
http://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploads/afdb/Documents/Publications/Economic_Brief_-_The_Africa_Infrastructure_Development_Index.pdf

6. We are amongst the most developed people on the continent - Nigerians amongst the least
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

7. We are the most technologically advanced country on the continent
http://answersafrica.com/top-10-most-technologically-advanced-countries-in-africa.html/2

8. You talk of literacy?
Literacy rate RSA: 86%
Literacy rate NIG: 68%
http://theafricaneconomist.com/ranking-of-african-countries-by-literacy-rate-zimbabwe-no-1/#.VjdjZvkrLcc

It is Nigeria whom is illiterate and mis-informed

But why stop there? Lets continue shall we!

Lets talk about diplomacy:

9. South Africa has 134 foreign embassies and comissions within its borders, Nigeria only 98

10. South Africa is a member of BRICS, Nigeria is not

11. South Africa is a member of the G20, Nigeria is not

[size=15pt]As you can see, by every measurable means, South Africa dwarfs Nigeria... you are children before us, children with delusions of grandeur, who play little games and think they are kings. You celebrate your "victories" and we just laugh, knowingly, you celebrate bullying MTN into paying a huge fine... we laugh as the International Markets draw a big red line through your countries name.

We rub shoulders with the rulers of the world. You rub shoulders with Boko Haram and Block Boys. Common thugs, the laughing stock of the world. [/size]

iblawi:
Umkhonto IR has 15km range mumu. We have otomat mk1 with 80km range.

Secondly, snorkeling is different from submerged.
8000nmi snorkel and 400 nmi submerged

Umkhonto is SURFACE TO AIR YOU FVCKING RETAR.D


Yes, those are the ranges for the sub, congradulations on getting something right.

lionel4power:
reasons why the Saudis and UAE armies are falling...because they keep using MRAP as IFVs.

We dont use MRAP's as IFV's - thats why we have over 1000 IFV's and only 800 MRAP's

Saudi's simply have no idea what they are doing

lezz:
[s]Are you weeping already? Your tears are only adding to the flood sweeping Zulu kingdom away.

Believe me, Pretoria will come cap in hands to negotiate with us. China has the west scurrying for deals and investment. Who's to say Nigeria can't do the same in Africa ?

Mtn needn't pay, we shall nationalize it then. If we nationalize British Barkley bank, Kingsway and other top British firms in the 70's to stop apartheid and grant black south Africans a taste of freedom, then we can do much worse to any other firm , especially from a useless competitive and ungrateful country like Zulu kingdom.


Well, Pretoria has already sent in delegation to plead, let's see if we can help .

In the mean time, i'm enjoying the anxiety and euphoria oozing from cape town, Pretoria and jo burg.

The long axiom "when Nigeria sneezes Africa catches cold " is true, South Africa not exempted[/s]

Ahh the usual Nigerian delusions of grandeur

A big fish in the tiny west african pond thinks its somehow relevant

Carefull not to take the bait boys

#DontFeedTheTroll

lezz:
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[s]
Mtn needs Nigeria more than humans need air. Haven't you read the Zulu hierarchy from south Africa running to the S.A embassy in Lagos to intervene on the matter ?

Your economy is on life support machine, an epileptic, Neanderthaloid like you and your irks will use any opportunity to delude yourselves out of reality.

When GlaxoSmithKline, BMW, defaulted in China, they were hammered with hefty fine . These western companies owned up to their misdeeds, paid the fine and tendered unreserved apology to the government and people of China.

We are over 170 million strong with the biggest market in Africa. Welcome to the new hegemony, Zulu.

Don't let your baseless,naive pride get in the way. Believe me the Zulu in charger of mtn is sweating profusely n the _ass as is the south African government.

Stanbic bank has gotten the stick too, DSTV should be next. I can't wait for that 5 billion dollars.[/s]

Dont feed the troll

agaugust:
1. Oryx sling carries 6,000 kg. Cobra weight is 4,800 kg. Yes Oryx will carry a Cobra.

[s]2. Your youtube video boldly say UPGRADE and shows T-72 tank that Algeria purchased from Russia, being many years later upgraded in South Africa. Did you sell the tank to Algeria? Is an upgrade of fire control system same as selling a tank to somebody?

Now you complain when MTN gets fined for deception and manipulation, but ALMOST EVERY South African is fraudulent, now you want to claim falsely that you sell T-72 tanks to Algeria, tanks that were sold by Russia.

Reason why your MTN got into trouble for trying to deceive the Nigerian telecom regulatory authority. Is honesty hated in South Africa[/s]

1. Oryx sling load is 4,500kg - LIAR

2. Provide proof Russia sold the tanks.

This guy - spends all day calling people liars and then comes and tells us lies about our own equipment... what a joke!

agaugust:
You are just a bag full of fraud and lies. Nobody will buy a REVA MRAP for $1 million you fraud !

CS/VP3 cost is $545,000 http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4741.html

REVA cost is $333,000 Source : SIPRI arms sales log, sales to Thailand 87 units cost only $29 m

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


South Africa
L: Thailand 87 Mamba APC 2007 2008 (87) THB900 m ($29 m) deal; Reva-3 version

Chinese MRAPs cost us almost double the price of South African MRAPs, yet we bought almost 3 times more quantity from the Chinese....Nigeria does not need South African weapons, even though yours is cheaper, we can afford more expensive stuff.

You lose Patches # FVCKING WRECKED LIKE MTN
.

No, the Bigfoot costs double the price of a Reva (our cheapest MRAP)

You cannot afford our other MRAP's - hence why I posted the cost of the RG

This has allways been the argument.

Simple fact of the matter - you cannot afford what we sell

iblawi:
You will never know how until we sink them. You guys are too dull to thinking your navy can attack Nigeria just 4 Frigates carrying 15km missiles. And a submarine that can only be submerged for 400nmi.

South African are too dull. You will kept paying us money cos we rule you.

It turns out you are the dull one

Exocet on Valour class has a range of 72km and the Heroin class can be submerged but snorkel for 8000nmi

Clown

jln115:
- Can an Oryx carry a Cobra? NO!!!

lol, wrecked