₦airaland Forum

Theflint1:
Not originally you weren't, but it's fine.

At least you can go back a couple of pages and follow my interaction with Sege so you know that's my position...

Theflint1:
Errrm...don't agree, it's important to subject all major candidates to same amount of rigor, it might not matter much to you if you have your mind made up, but to those that don't have their minds made up, it matters.

I was speaking for myself...

Theflint1:
Exactly. Hope we're asking these hard questions to other candidates, and they're making themselves available to be asked these hard questions?

You don't ask questions to someone that you don't consider as an option...

"Atiku Abubakar seems to be the favorite among Muslims in the Northeast (except in Borno and Yobe) with a potential to expand his reach to other parts of the Muslim North. His problem is that because he has always been liberal, cosmopolitan, and not delimited by religion, he doesn’t excite northern Muslims who define their identities in religious terms.

It’s precisely why he used to be more popular in the South (and in the Christian North) than in the Muslim North. But Peter Obi has stolen his thunder in his erstwhile electoral base, and this was the basis of a joke I saw on social media that says Atiku has in the bag all the votes he needs to be president in 2023—except that Obi is holding the bag.

Obi appears to have a lock on the votes in the Southeast, the South-South, and in such predominantly Christians states as Benue, Plateau, and even Taraba. Christians in southern Kaduna and Southern Kebbi seem more favorably disposed to him than they are to any other candidate. The major challenge of his popularity in the Southeast is that it may not translate to high voter turnout in light of the continuing violence and threats of violence by IPOB.

Muslims in the North-central and the Northwest appear to be the only noncommittal, persuadable voting bloc because they have no sentimental investment in any of the three major presidential candidates. They can swing in any direction.

Because Obi is making a mark, however imperceptible, in these regions where he was previously unknown, we should recognize that he is no longer the underdog that he once was. In order to avoid a repeat of Buhari, critical citizens should ask Obi hard, soul-searching questions because he could be president.

For example, why did he allow the Anambra State University branch of ASUU to go on strike for more than six months and even going so far as to sack the school’s vice chancellor “because of his alleged romance with the striking workers of the university,” according to the Daily Sun of January 19, 2011. How is he different from Buhari in this regard?

Why did he allow doctors in Anambra State to go on strike for 13 months, which led to many needless deaths? The doctors called off their strike without Obi meeting their demands. And he implemented the no-work-no-pay rule when Anambra civil servants went on strike to demand to be paid minimum wage.

While he was governor of Anambra, he played typical Nigerian politics of divide and rule. He played Catholics against Anglicans and even stigmatized political opponents as “Yoruba” people, according to Professor Okey Ndibe who wrote extensively on him.

“It is similarly appalling that a governor who reportedly has ambitions for higher political office could not restrain himself from disparaging Mr. Ngige as a Yoruba candidate,” Ndibe wrote in his April 18, 2011, column titled “Peter Obi, Akunyili and Political Folly.” “Even if we accepted the silly argument that the ACN was a Yoruba party – so what? Is the governor allergic to forging political alliances with the Yoruba? Is he not aware that such appeals to base, ethnic sentiments would return to haunt him if he ever seeks to be a political player at the national level?”

That was prophetic. This doesn’t make Obi any worse than his opponents. But because he could be president, we should interrogate him so we won’t be blindsided".

Una sure say this Kperogi no dey visit this thread...We have said everything he wrote here...

Ibukzy:
Where are the records from 1999-2004 in Lagos state under Tinubu ?
And why was the population of both states in your analysis not referenced?... Cos it wouldn't be same when Mr. BAT had to cater to over 10m ppl while Mr. Obi only had about 2m ppl... The analysis would not analyze ooo..

Think am oo

People fail to take into account the population of Lagos and its size when making comparisons, all their focus is always on the amount of money available to the government...

Nice one...

Theflint1:
https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2022/10/peter-obis-quiet-inroads-into-muslim.html?m=1&s=09

I was going to post this here before seeing your post...

Notice that he said Nigerians need to ask ask some very hard questions about Obi so as not to make the same mistake they made with Buhari?

Segedinho, exactly what I wrote yesterday...

liveLongNprospa:
Nope.. As you went hard on one party.. It should not be hard doing the same with another .

If you can say what Raumdeuter did.. Then I'm fine with letting it go

If you can read, you'd see where I said Raumdeuter was wrong for his comments...

Anyway, that was 2015...It will interest you to note that DonJ was a fierce critic of GEJ around the same time so he isn't best placed to drag Dayo and his goons for whatever position they held back then...

liveLongNprospa:
What are the sides guilty of nah.


What is Raumdeuter guilty of..??
What is Donjazet guilty of..??

I see you're hell bent on making sure sanity doesn't return to this thread...

liveLongNprospa:
Patrick if you want to be more mature then call out the ones that need to be urgently called out.. Don't preach maturity and hide from saying the truth abeg.

Baba, all sides are guilty, going forward let's make tye debates here interesting and devoid of insults...

Massiveglory:
Articulate. Inclusive. Achievable.

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For me, @ bold is the key to restoring Nigeria to the path of honor. That is main key that holds the password to other areas.
Peter obi did it in anambra by leading by example. I believe it is doable nationally.

I see hope. I see truth. I see a bright future.
Nigeria will be great again. God bless the incoming president and vice president of the federal republic of Nigeria.

I will like to know how he intends to achieve it...We need to start asking how and when after politicians tell us what they intend to do...

ChristineC:
it is players like this that wouldn't mind throwing a manager under the bus if they feel over-tasked and I hope Ten Hag will continue in the culture of not rewarding mediocre display by dropping him.
personally, I'd play an Elanga and Garnacho over Sancho. I care about effort a lot because it rubs off on other members of the team. Malacia don't need laid-back merchant in front of him at this stage of his development.
I delegate more tasks to interns that show willingness irrespective of talent. I don't care. there should be reward for commitment.

Well said...

Donjazet2:
All I'm seeing here Patrick is still a poor attempt at gaslighting. Okay Patrick to prove me wrong, honestly answer me these questions.

What do you make of these submissions below, how do you rationally reply someone who repeatedly says Jonathan is the founder of Boko Haram, and is now saying IPOB is Peter Obi's creation? How do you rationally reply that?

Secondly what is your opinion on this particular submission of genocidal ethnic cleansing below.

In the post below, this person calls all people with ibo blood bastards. Tell me Patrick, how do you "maturedly" reply these positions?

Dayo went the extreme there...

If memory serves me right, you supported Buhari in 2015 and not GEJ, why not GEJ?

I hold Buhari liable for the insecurity in the North and around the country just like I did Jonathan in 2015...To be honest, Buhari did not deserve a second term after failing for the first 4 years...

GEJ didn't help himself, I remember he went for campaign after a terror attack and that didn't go down well with a lot of Nigerians...

Lastly, if you stop to respond to every attack coming the way of Obi, you might find yourself in a mud fight and at the end, you'd realize that rather than selling your candidate you fell for the bait of those who are against him...

With the APC and PDP Nigerians know what to expect but not with LP hence, a good strategist will rather have Obi supporters (ambassadors) spend time engaged in e-fights and irrelevant arguments rather than propagate the message of Obi to others...

The goal is to tell as many Nigerians as possible what Obi will do differently if elected and that's what's important...

odizeey:
Wasted money on that guy really.

Them for just use the money throw get together party for fans.

Hehehe...The guy plays with no urgency at all...I used to think he had pace to burn but after a few games, I realized he can't go back the average fullback with pace and he isn't even a very good dribbler from what we have seen so far...

Segedinho:
Undecided voters will definitely go in 4 thorough research b4 deciding who to vote for..

let me give u an example of why i tagged my few lines "hypocrisy".

Obi went to church....people here were shouting he is dividing d country thru religious route.

BAT muslim Muslim tickets: same people said He chose him for votes.
Atiku withdrew his Deborah's quote: No comment.


Obi ..Ibop is not a terrorist group as at more dan 5yrs ago...reaction was/is he is a terrorist sympathizer.

BAT said i don't believe in "one Nigeria" some years...everybody went mute about it today..



You see, at times you become a weakling when all you do is to defend.defend and defend...there are times you go head to head with d obvious.......

My view is for those professors that criticises Obi's view only.....

Let me speak for myself, I am particularly interested in Obi because I think he is the only option of the big 4 that I am considering...I will analyze his every move independently just to be sure he is what is being presented before I decide whether to vote or abstain...If I am not convinced, I'll rather abstain that helping someone I don't trust to get elected...

I don't care about religion, Prof. Ben Ayade and his deputy Prof. Esu are both Christians yet they've failed to deliver so, I tell anyone who cares to listen that bringing up religion in a political debate or basing your judgment on religion is a NO for me...

Atiku and Kwankwaso are out of the race by virtue of the fact that Buhari who is rounding up his 2nd tenure is from the North...We have not reached the stage where we elect leaders irrespective of region, the current system of North and South is best for us (Please don't use the same logic to argue in favor of religion as we have Christians in the North and Muslims in the South too)...

Tinubu is out solely because of his age which comes with its attendant health challenges (You can't wish it away)...

The reason why every move Obi makes is often scrutinized by majority of the electorates (I am referring to those whose scrutiny is with the right intentions) is because of lot of people are interested in his person...Trust me, majority of people who supported Buhari in 2015 did so because they wanted Jonathan out because his Government failed to deliver even when crude oil price was on a record high...Nobody cared to look at what the APC were offering if it was SMART in any sense and that's a mistake I believe a lot of Nigerians (some not all) don't want to make by jumping on the Obi bandwagon without proper checks...

liveLongNprospa:
You think we are here to convince you or anyone here to support Obi.. Trust me this is not the platform to suffer gas lighters or "mature" people.

Ewww... So tell me who I should try to convince, a known tribalist like raumdeuter or a staunch apc supporter like larride or a clown like donstan18 or is it the other one that's trying to behave like he's the smartest human being in his head...

So who should I waste my time convincing here... Is it the people who have seen raumdeuter's post and still make excuses for him ni that "oh its nairaland and you have to kill or be killed" because it is necessary to be a tribalist to survive in politics section.

Wooh please let's not deceive ourselves and continue with our insults okay

Trust me, a lot of folks will stumble on this thread before the elections and who knows, one or two might be convinced to vote for a candidate via the interactions here...

We ought to be more matured here...

Segedinho:
Definition of hypocrisy is when you keep mute or justify whenever BAT supporters chun out lies and deceits to castigate OBI's.

But

Criticises and analyses the reason why Obi Supporters are intolerant when they match dem in same tactics ..



in as much as Donjazet brutal response is too extreme but many 2faced professor here deserves it...


hypocrites.....!!!

APC has a support base like PDP, I am talking about people who will vote for them regardless...Peter Obi and in extension Labour Party are the new entrant, the goal is to get many people who were seldom uninterested in the electioneering process to vote for Peter Obi and as well convince undecided voters to pitch their tent with Obi...It even extends to attracting PDP and APC faithfuls to ditch their party's candidate for Obi...

How do you achieve such? You have to be rational, convincing and patient...It irks me to see people who want to change the system to hide behind the excuse of "APC did worse to Jonathan in 2015" as a reason for their irrational approach...That's how APC came in with the change mandate yet things have relatively remained the same...If PO wins, I wouldn't be surprised to see people blaming his failure (That is if he fails) on the APC like the APC are still blaming the PDP...

No matter how you try to balance things up, DonJ has been largely responsible for bad blood here...Sell your candidate and stop attacking everyone and anyone who holds a divergent viewpoint...

We all cannot think alike but maturity is the ability to respect the choices of others...

Ellexy, Martial will not put me to shame...My boy go score 20+ EPL goals...

E be like the dragging of Sancho don dey set...

Our right wing solution don turn left wing problem...Dear God, epp us...

Skimpledawg:
Kenneth Okonkwo is sound. His ability to sell PO with the 7-point agenda PO spoke about in Havard got me.

I read those tweets from PO and he did not itemize it. Kenneth did his homework well and enumerated all the points smartly.

Commendable.

That's how you sell your candidate and not attack all those you think are not supporters of your candidate...A certain moniker here should watch and learn...

The intelligent ones amongst the Obi supporters should step forward else the irrational, intolerant, divisive and bigoted folks amongst them will see the Obi momentum lose grounds...

Expert17:
Messi had 14 assists in 26 games last season, the mumu Wasiu fans called him a flop, but suddenly assist matters.

Nothing serious benching cannot do

Warisdis?

odizeey:
Maguire signing was more profitable than Sancho.

Chai!!!

Expert17:
Martial is better than the guy, and Greenwood is 3 levels above him. Fvcking fraud

Expert17:
For now, Rashfod and Martial should continue as CF. Ronaldo and Sancho benched till further notice.

OvoP are we still stacked upfront??

ChristoBam:
No one has and that's the point. Not even the huge signings.
See, I'll probably share the same views as you if it was not the timing. I wanted him sold to PSG last summer. But if you think about it well.

The last 2 seasons before the infamous one, he was really good. Played the second one injured and still had great numbers. This was before the serious injury which we all predicted would have a huge effect on him.

So he's definitely trying to redeem himself from that terrible season he had. It's very cruel to be back to 'Ship him out' after a bad game against a City game that we had no single good player on the pitch apart from probably Martial.

Fixed...

Credits only...

Donjazet2:
That thunder go first destroy that wicked heart of yours that wishes continuous suffering and death upon Nigerians.

Ara gbagbuo gi there. Shameless urchin with a heartless soul. Na judgement dey await una wey no gree get Sense for this country.
Imagine wishing evil upon your country men. Where is your heart man??

Miss me with your BS!!!

Donjazet2:
Another very foolish post. "Peter Obi is as rich as Tinubu and Atiku"

Shebi you people see the foolish and wicked people we're dealing with here.

In your wicked mind, you think everyone is as grand a thief as your mcm's. You Stan thieves so you have to look at everyone as a thief.

And mind you, Peter Obi is the only candidate with a verifiable track record of his wealth. An educated banker and a corporate investor.

The other thief was a corrupt government official, the other a junior accountant who abused his position for indicted money laundering. FACTS!!

Donjazet, you're no less than a bush pig...

Thunder fire you and your lineage...Useless piece of shit...

Donjazet2:
Another very foolish post. "Peter Obi is as rich as Tinubu and Atiku"

Shebi you people see the foolish and wicked people we're dealing with here.

In your wicked mind, you think everyone is as grand a thief as your mcm's. You Stan thieves so you have to look at everyone as a thief.

And mind you, Peter Obi is the only candidate with a verifiable track record of his wealth. An educated banker and a corporate investor.

The other thief was a corrupt government official, the other a junior accountant who abused his position for indicted money laundering. FACTS!!

Stop quoting me you deranged baboon...

Skimpledawg:
I still don't understand the rationale behind donating money to a billionaire to fund campaign and elections.

It's totally lost on me.

Well, they'll always be delusional folks amongst the lot...

Peter Obi has everything to go toe-to-toe with Tinubu and Atiku but then to prey on the emotions of the average Nigerian, he has to act like a pauper...Sorry, I ain't buying it...

Donjazet2:
I just didn't want to correct the foolishness you wrote up there.
If I ask you why you think obi will not win, or how tinubu or atiku expect to win, you will start stuttering and saying nonsense.

What we know for SURE is that Obi is the most popular candidate ACROSS ALL MEDIA PLATFORMS!

And take note, this is 2022. We're in an era where the vast majority of Nigerians are connected to the internet in one way or the other. If not twitter, then definitely Facebook, if not Facebook then definitely Whatsapp.

HOW MANY PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE DO YOU KNOW THAT DON'T USE EITHER OF ANY OF THOSE PLATFORMS ABOVE?

I myself for instance, all my family members and I mean, each and everyone them are present on WhatsApp. We have an active family Whatsapp group. I can assure you that I know that obi already has 70 votes in the bag. But I digress.

If we are in an age where internet usage is now soo sporadic and one candidate has an overwhelming appeal across all internet platforms, does that not accurately Guage the mood of the nation?

Online polls show obi in the lead.
Professional polls show obi in the lead.
Street polls indicates obi in the lead.

We saw the massive surge for PVC across the nation right after the massive sensitization from the OBIdient movement and the rapid spread of his name since then.
We are seeing the surging popularity across the length and breath of the nation for this one man.

We see people sacrifice their time and resources for this man more than any other political base, but one urchin named Patrick will come here to console himself and cope with the false belief that Obi cannot win.
Delusional urchin.

You're the most senseless poster here...

Rationality is lost on you...I don't understand why a young man your age can be so foolish...It's no wonder you can be easily swindled to donate money for the election of a multi billionaire...

Abeg shift make I see reasonable Nairalanders...

Donjazet2:
He will not win but he will be credited as the man who paved the way for others to come...If Obi doesn't go to sleep after the election and continues building the momentum then he has a realistic chance in 2027 and that's if the incoming government fails to address the challenges facing the country.

You're tired of writing epistles wherein you spread hate? A good start..

I expected a good read but the article is just shallow...

Skimpledawg:
Whether Peter Obi wins or not, I won't fail to commend his balls so far. Man singlehandedly made this election interesting.

He will not win but he will be credited as the man who paved the way for others to come...If Obi doesn't go to sleep after the election and continues building the momentum then he has a realistic chance in 2027 and that's if the incoming government fails to address the challenges facing the country.