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 Christianity Etc › Re: TWILIGHT: The Sun And Moon Darken, The Stars Fall From Heaven. by paxonel(m): 9:21pm On Aug 08, 2014 |
MrPresident1: Mathew 24:24i am a Christian but without due sentiment this post is geared towards threatening ignorant christians not to enjoy their lives and this is evil of religion we I want to point out the big error commited by today christians because they read Bible they are not seeing anything Matthew 24:29 says Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken do you know that this verse is a prophecy by Jesus about what will happen at the cross when he will be crucified? let's look at the crucifixion Matthew 27:45 says Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. this is the darkening of the sun prophesied in that Matthew 24:29, the fall of the stars and moon leads to darkness (stars and moon did not fall in the real sense, the phrase stars and moon falling is used to represent darkness) Matthew 27:51 says And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; this is the powers of the heavens shall be shaken prophesied in that Matthew 24:29. heavens shaken there is earthquake so you can see that Matthew 27 was a prophecy by Jesus which has already been fulfilled at crucifixion. stop threatening innocent ignorant christians what did Jesus meant by immediately after the tribulation of those? for your info,disciples following Jesus from galilee to Jerusalem where he was to be crucified was enough tribulation also refered to abomination of desolation as prophesied by Daniel. the disciples numbering more than 5000.abandoned all that they had to follow Jesus through the wilderness to Jerusalem without food,water,shelter,some women where even pregnant, some with nursing babies. it wasn't easy, it was the most terrible thing that has ever happened since mankind was created therefore matthew 24:29 says immediately after the event of following which is the great tribulation (what you people know as the great tribulation you think it will come in the future and you used it to threaten people ) shall the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Obey God's Commandments - No Tithes No Heaven by paxonel(m): 6:30pm On Aug 08, 2014 |
ProphetUdeme: Honour the LORD with thy substance and with the first fruits of thine increase...... (proverbs 3 vs 9)..it pastors want to. deceive church members to pay tithe they will read old testament. please old testament and new testament are not the same. old testament is old covenant while new testament is new covenant. Don't tell me Jesus didn't come to debunk the law, the law Jesus didn't come to debunk is the 10 commandments. tithe is not 10 commandments it was for the Jews only |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by paxonel(m): 6:00pm On Aug 02, 2014 |
trustman: Faith in faith or Faith as a forceI want to state here categorically that christians in this present day are confused in general when it comes to the Bible, the way Bible was written is confusing us and we are paying for it dearly Jesus says if you have faith like a mustard seed you will tell this mountain be thou move.. that statement was hyperbolic ( exaggeration ). meaning, there is a true meaning behind that statement I think the meaning of mountain there is any circumstance beyond our control, we all know it but the problem about we christiians is,since we know that mountain means circumstances beyond our control eg a laim man who can't walk, when we have faith we can heal him,why are we still having faith to pray for things we can control such as car ,money, house? etc yet we don't work 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Naijalatext.com Home Of Gospel Musics by paxonel(m): 11:21am On Aug 02, 2014 |
chukstem: Read Eccl 7:5while Gospel is the rebuke of the wise? If Gospel music is truly rebuke then sinners will run away |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Naijalatext.com Home Of Gospel Musics by paxonel(m): 12:32am On Aug 02, 2014 |
RockyTeee: God is not the kind of love they potray in worldly sensual muzicwhether sensual God created senses in us |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Naijalatext.com Home Of Gospel Musics by paxonel(m): 6:49pm On Aug 01, 2014 |
RockyTeee: Bro, thats the catch, some of them are actually more intresting and captivating...but they still dont glorify Godhow do they not glorify God, their songs promote love God is love |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by paxonel(m): 2:02pm On Aug 01, 2014 |
frosbel: "Then the king sent to him a captain of fifty with his fifty. And he went up to him, and behold, he was sitting on the top of the hill. And he said to him, "O man of God, the king says, 'Come down.'" Elijah replied to the captain of fifty, "If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty." Then fire came down from heaven and consumed him and his fifty.…" - 2 Kings 1:9-10Have you ever seen or hear any church bringing down fire from heaven before? 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Naijalatext.com Home Of Gospel Musics by paxonel(m): 12:28pm On Aug 01, 2014 |
RockyTeee: Thanxbut know that secular music is better than Gospel music by far |
| Christianity Etc › Re: RAPTURE Is Iminent, Get Your Document Completed NOW!!! by paxonel(m): 12:55pm On Jul 30, 2014*. Modified: 1:12pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
jessyz: This is complete deception. Anyone that believes this is doomed for eternity.@Jessy, really? ok let's look at that verse critically. Matthew 18:9 says And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. Here, Jesus was talking to the Jews who put so much value on their religion Judaism, note: Judaism is the religion or faith of the Jews which started in the old testament with the covenant between God and Abraham, since the Jews were decendants of Abraham they value that religion so much the way any human being will value his eye that they don't want to believe in anything else, not even Jesus, just like we wount believe in anything else but Jesus so Jesus who saw how much they value that religion uses EYE in that verse of the Bible to describe Judaism. to the Jews, Judaism is eye ( the light ) just like we Christians see Christianity as the light, the only religion approved by God for salvation to mankind so when you replace JUDAISM for EYE in that verse it says Matthew 18:9 And if thine JUDAISM YOU BELIEVE IN offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with ONE EYE , rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. so how does Judaism offend the Jews such that they needed to pluck it out of their life? Judaism offended the Jews because Judaism could not free the jews from the consequence of sin which is death inspite all the laws and 10 commandments Judaism came with remember Adam and Eve sin which brought death to mankind so to solve this problem of death that was why Jesus came Now, Jesus is the founder of Christianity which is another faith different from the faith of the Jews which is Judaism it is in Christianity our faith that we are saved therefore we are saved by faith what are we saved from? we are saved from the consequence of sin which is death therefore CHRISTIANITY IS ETERNAL LIFE,we have eternal life in us john 3:16:whosoever believe should not perish but have eternal life Since Christianity is eternal life, let us replace the word LIFE in that verse with Christianity Matthew 18:9 And if thine JUDAISM WHICH YOU BELIEVE IN offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into CHRISTIANITY with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. Now one eye there simply means your body, the other eye is your religion, you value both your body and your religion, your body will die someday not you, your body is not you.but your religion christianity will never die, you will be given a new body to continue life here on earth,you and your religion will continue life on earth forever and ever , how does that work? please read . 1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? please read this chapter down since Christianity has defeated death and grave is where we go when we die, that means we will never go to grave because we will never die because death has been defeated 1 Corinthians 15:55 says O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? Therefore HE'LL FIRE SIMPLY MEANS GRAVE in mathew 18:9. let's look at it again. Jesus told the jews in Matthew 18:9 that, And if thine JUDAISM YOU BELIEVE IN offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into CHRISTIANITY with one eye (your one body without your Judaism ), rather than having YOUR BODY AND YOUR RELIGION (which is Judaism ) to be cast into THE GRAVE OR SOIL THEREFORE HELL FIRE MEANS GRAVE consequently, Matthew 5:29 says And if thy right eye (thy religion,specifically judaism because he was talking to the jews) offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish ( Judaism in you should die), and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell (the grave) because the grave is the last bus stop for every man who dies which was defeated by christ if you are a Christian you still do not believe that life continues forever on this earth that means you don't believe in resurrection, you are like the saducees. you don't know the hope of your salvation . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: RAPTURE Is Iminent, Get Your Document Completed NOW!!! by paxonel(m): 9:04am On Jul 30, 2014 |
ebenice: indeed without holiness no MAN shall see the LORDhell fire as used by Jesus in Matthew 18:9 means THE EARTH. or GRAVE or soil. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: RAPTURE Is Iminent, Get Your Document Completed NOW!!! by paxonel(m): 8:53am On Jul 30, 2014 |
emmyskies: This is so true. Christians, pls take your restitutions very serious. Rapture is very near. No wonder, the Lord led me to do most of my undone restitutions yesterday and today. Chei, make una take am very serious o. The Lord will open way to do. Do them pls. No wonder the Lord has quickened me. Watch and pray brethren. GOD bless youmy friend! no rapture, it's a contradiction to the Bible |
| Christianity Etc › Re: RAPTURE Is Iminent, Get Your Document Completed NOW!!! by paxonel(m): 8:51am On Jul 30, 2014 |
ebenice: LAST NIGHT VISION OF DIVINE DOCUMENTplease don't preach about rapture, it is not in the Bible. i don't know where you got it from. please live your life here on earth and enjoy it |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Women Dress Indecently To Church Nowadays by paxonel(m): 1:34pm On Jul 29, 2014*. Modified: 2:29pm On Jul 29, 2014 |
Dux01: did u just say God will not hold them responsible if they do it deliberately then you obviously do not know the mind of God in this matter.you don't want to understand what i am saying you just continue to say what you think is right.have u ever read luke 17 vs 1 before?read other versions if you don't understand.who is now misinterpreting the bible?have u ever thought on all i have written above i keep on saying this again a woman that has a pure heart cannot dress indecently.it seems you don't want these women to make heaven you just want them to be free to do what they like i mean look at what you said even if they do it deliberately just imagine what you said a woman do deliberately dresses indecently to church;wants men to be thinking about her they commit sin God will not punish her?do you know what is Holiness at all?are u trying to tell me that such a woman has ANY chance of making heaven excepts she repents?.someone that knows that the men who lust after her will go to hell because of that and will not mind infact even continues.i tell u the truth such a woman CANNOT escape divine judgement.pxonel look t this issue very well.red what pastor e a adeboye said concerning the matter he said"if your dressing is sentencing souls to hell,know that you have already made all your eternal reservations in hell"women should dress decently not just to prevent men from stumling through lust but also to show that they are truly pursuing holiness nd want to make heaven.@dux01, I quoted out luke 17:1-2 in my last post and explained it, you didn't get the right interpretation of that portion and I have proved that by explaining what that portion is trying to point out. that the portion is saying WOE TO ANYMAN (any Jewish leader who try to deceive his disciples not to follow him,not any woman who entice men with indecent dressing ) so if you want to quote Bible learn how to quote it correctly before you argue that is what pastors do in churches including pastor Adeboye , they commit fallacies when they quote bible a lot thereby misleading church members @dux10, by the way do you know what fallacies are? whether you like it or not God is not holding anybody responsible for what is not even a sin in the first place man . God is not mad. Before men or mankind we all know what sin are. sin is simply braking the 10 commandments, indecent dressing is not even classified among the 10 commandments so it is never sin before man, maybe it is sin in Yoruba tradition no wonder people like pastor adeboye can aford to judge people because he is a yoruba man But sin before God is different from sin before man because God who is wiser thinks differently from man. Sin before God is simply not accepting Christ. that one does not depend on the 10 commandments so if like tear your yansh as a lady go church, nobody can judge you, not even adeboye by the way who told you that these women who dress indecently are not already in heaven? this is the problem i have with Christians they don't know their right, they are already in heaven they don't know. oowh! you people are waiting for rapture? you are all being deceived Ephesians 2:6.says And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: you are already there what are you still waiting for? rapture? your father o ahahahhaahhaaa! don't go and explore this earth and enjoy your life as he commanded mankind to do when he created this world Genesis 1:28 says And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. you are blessed already you don't know |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Women Dress Indecently To Church Nowadays by paxonel(m): 1:29pm On Jul 29, 2014 |
drmary: I was so disgusted in church today, when I saw how ladies, both married and single wore micro mini gowns and bossom revealing tops to d house of God without any fear.I kept asking myself why ? Pls reasonable contribution |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 11:59am On Jul 29, 2014 |
chrisviral: Mr paxonel, how exactly does paying of tithe corrupt nigerians and keeps it in bondage?@Chrisviral, i agree will you that oyedepo create employment, I recommend him for that but he is talking money from church members.among whom the majority are very poor ( up to to 70% of them ) to pay his employees thereby making the rich to be rich and the poor to continue in poverty, have you ever asked why winners chapel had problems with the British government? it is Nigeria here we tolerate rubbish because we are foolish people Oyedepo uses tithe money to run welfare programmes and help the poor but do the church members who pay the tithe know about that? no. what they know is tithe is meant for pastors according to the old testament so oyedepo is not telling church members the truth the politicians that siphoned billion of funs are some of them not church members? some are even members of winners, they will finish siphoning money and call themselves winners, winning the process of siphoning these are people who lark moral values, there are plenty of moral values in the Bible, just know that one if don't know anything else but who is teaching them? nobody. oyedepo is not teaching them i can swear my life for that if you really want to know what moral values are leave Nigeria, travel to the UK or any developed nation you will see it,leave oyedepo and his. Yoruba ideology which is without transparency don't you know that oyedepo is a yoruba man? we all know the damages African traditions have caused this country in terms of tribalism and division, no love nigerians lark moral values, they are paying tithe to pastors for pastors to teach them the moral values that is in the Bible which developed countries who brought Christianity to Africa got from the Bible, they are enjoying their lives and we africans are here suffering unnecessarily, but pastors are not teaching us, they are collecting tithe then what are we paying the tithe for? we are just wasting our money because we are not getting what we are paying for I think that is the beginning of corruption, cheating and distortion |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 10:15pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
@chrisviral, you are not repeating what you pasted on page 0 because you are not sure again if you actually say the truth, and you tihers are not sure of anything, you are all bunch of confused people. if not, tell me, how come inspite the the too much church and tithe in this country Nigeria is still corrupt? poverty is everywhere, the vast of church members still live in poverty, is that not ignorance on your tithe ideology? I am saying something new totally different from what nigerians and their pastors know, something pastors failed to see in the Bible that can help bring out nigerians out of boundage,poverty and corruption because only the truth can set us free but you are telling me i am ignorant. the one you know which oyedopo and all pastors in Nigeria thought you has it help reduce corruption and poverty? No. instead the more they are teaching it nigerians are becoming vulnerable to sharp practices and corruption everyday because if they can't.be bold enough without sentiment to question their pastors who they can assess how will they be bold to question their government who they can't assess? I can see nigerians in general don't want something new how can they change? therefore change is not possible for Nigeria Nigerians are like jews in Jesus days. when Jesus was telling them something new different from what they know they opposed him, saying he is ignorant. then how can they change? I am not Jesus, whether it is me or someone else, somebody has to say the truth that is required to bring about change, the truth that no pastors in Nigeria have started preaching yet 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 7:54pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
by the time you quote somewhere in the old testament saying if you don't pay tithe you are robbing God what are you doing?.are you not indirectly forcing them to pay? you are forcing.the church members because when they hear that they will be robbing God if they dont pay they will not want the anger of God to come upon them,they become afraid and have no chioce but to pay, and also you are saying if they dont pay they wount prosper which is a lie. In the first place they are ignorant.the church members are ignorant of the fact that old testament is not Christianity. nobody is telling them that truth. so they think because old testament and new testament are in one book called Bible therefore they are the same thing. so the pastors take advantage of that ignorance and distort money from them because nobody is protecting them,the government is not protecting the ignorant citizens. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 7:22pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Hawlahscho: You can't rewrite Bible..... I know God does not collect tithe directly but indirectly once you've done it to His servants. It's matter of minod, I don't care what the pastors are using it for, am doing what's in d Bible and nothing more.[quote author=chrisviral]Wow, that's lovely, I didn't know I was brainwashed  , thanks for letting me knowif i were you i will keep quiet and go think about it |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 5:51pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
chrisviral: Hmmm and exactly how are the pastors going wrong... by reading out the very same Bible verse... hmmm your funny.. chrisviral: Hmmm and exactly how are the pastors going wrong... by reading out the very same Bible verse... hmmm your funny..I have told that princple is not for Christianity it was for Judaism and you are not saying whether you know or not that it was for Judaism rather you are telling me how you are benefiting from paying tithe. by the way, let me ask you, what benefits have you derived from tithe? you get a principle from another religion (Judaism ) and practice it in Christianity and you are saying it is benefiting you? didn't you see that the benefit of tithe was stated in malachi in Judaism and not in Christianity which started in the new testament? mention just one benefit you have derived let me see for your info Jesus says the least in the kingdom of God which is Christianity is greater than john the Baptist and Malachi and all the prophet of the old testament which is Judaism so we are greater than tithe, we don't need tithe to prosper. whether you pay tithe or you don't pay you will still make your money in life if you work hard do you think that achievement you made was as result of paying tithe to oyedepo?oyedepo have brainwashed you people by quoting old testament which is Judaism for you people In this life everybody who work prosper,even if it is pure water you sell. that is how God designed this life, rain for everybody, sun for everybody. even dangote who is a Muslim do he pay tithe to anybody? among all of you in winners who pay tithe who is richer than dangote? you people don't think at all |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 5:48pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
chrisviral: Hmmm and exactly how are the pastors going wrong... by reading out the very same Bible verse... hmmm your funny.. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 5:07pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
[quote author=paxonel][/quote]@chrisviral, [quote author=chrisviral]If you had read other Bible backup I gave before posting, then I would think of what you said, but apparently you didnt... I have a question for all of you, by paying tithe, how exactly does it offend God? I need scriptural back ups. Sorry to say but this exactly what Jesus was talking about when he said "Woe unto you, that you quickly want to remove the stone in your brothers eyes, without removing the BIG BEAM in your own eyes" Judgement is for the Lord and The Lord's alone, yeah we are been scamed into paying tithe and you are not and you want to voice your dis-satisfaction on NL, how exactly does it glorify God? Spend your life glorifying God not looking for what others are doing wrong, so that through the light that shines forth from you, you don't have to talk... we will just do as you do every Christian have glorified God already, they are justified. but that doesn't mean that they are free from the consquences of the sin comitted by their neighbor especially the sin commited by pastors. the only way they can be free is to voice out and correct pastors when they see them going wrong, yes we know we commit sin at any point in time but we all need to be corrected so that we can live happily. no body is above correction,pastors are not above correction.it will even glorify God the more when we correct pastors and they repent from the sin of distorting tithe from church members |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 4:59pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
[quote author=chrisviral]If you had read other Bible backup I gave before posting, then I would think of what you said, but apparently you didnt... I have a question for all of you, by paying tithe, how exactly does it offend God? I need scriptural back ups. Sorry to say but this exactly what Jesus was talking about when he said "Woe unto you, that you quickly want to remove the stone in your brothers eyes, without removing the BIG BEAM in your own eyes" Judgement is for the Lord and The Lord's alone, yeah we are been scamed into paying tithe and you are not and you want to voice your dis-satisfaction on NL, how exactly does it glorify God? Spend your life glorifying God not looking for what others are doing wrong, so that through the light that shines forth from you, you don't have to talk... we will just do as you do every Christian have glorified God already, they are justified. but that doesn't mean that they are free from the consquences of the sin comitted by their neighbor especially the sin commited by pastors. the only way they can be free is to voice out and correct pastors when they see them going wrong, yes we know we commit sin at any point in time but we all need to be corrected so that we can live happily. no body is above correction,pastors are not above correction.it will even glorify God the more when we correct pastors and they repent from the sin of distorting tithe from church members p |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 4:57pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
[quote author=chrisviral]If you had read other Bible backup I gave before posting, then I would think of what you said, but apparently you didnt... I have a question for all of you, by paying tithe, how exactly does it offend God? I need scriptural back ups. Sorry to say but this exactly what Jesus was talking about when he said "Woe unto you, that you quickly want to remove the stone in your brothers eyes, without removing the BIG BEAM in your own eyes" Judgement is for the Lord and The Lord's alone, yeah we are been scamed into paying tithe and you are not and you want to voice your dis-satisfaction on NL, how exactly does it glorify God? Spend your life glorifying God not looking for what others are doing wrong, so that through the light that shines forth from you, you don't have to talk... we will just do as you do every Christian have glorified God already, they are justified. but that doesn't mean that they are free from the consquences of the sin comitted by their neighbor especially the sin commited by pastors. the only way they can be free is to voice out and correct pastors when they see them going wrong, yes we know we commit sin at any point in time but we all need to be corrected so that we can live happily. no body is above correction,pastors are not above correction.it will even glorify God the more when we correct pastors and they repent from the sin of distorting tithe from church members 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 4:34pm On Jul 27, 2014 |
Hawlahscho: meaning no tithe payer in new testament and old testament is condemned right? be bold to say it.don't get me wrong , tithe in new testament(Christianity ) is optional. it is not by force. if you have a good reason to pay go ahead and pay. but so far no pastor in Nigeria has advanced one good reason why we should pay tithe, all the reasons they give are all scam. quoting old testament is scam because we are in Christianity. old testament is Judaism. In those days tithe was by force that the jews were asked to pay because not paying was like robbing God 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Pay Tithes Are Continually Been Scamed. by paxonel(m): 11:01am On Jul 27, 2014 |
Hawlahscho: You can't rewrite Bible..... I know God does not collect tithe directly but indirectly once you've done it to His servants. It's matter of mind, I don't care what the pastors are using it for, am doing what's in d Bible and nothing more.@Hawlahscho, If truly you are doing what is in the Bible you should know that the whole old testament including malachi where you got tithe from,was Judaism which is the religion of the Jews not Christianity which is the religion of Jesus christ because Jesus founded christianity when he died on the cross and God has rejected Judaism and every other religion and lifted up christianity for salvation, so why are you still dwelling in boundage of tithe which was the order of Judaism? imagin someone will reading a portion of quran in islam saying that a man payed tithe thousands of centuries ago in Islam that you in Christianity should come and pay tithe is that not foolishness? that is what our pastors are doing today by asking us to pay tithe and we foolish church members we don't read Bible to see what is there, anything our pastors say we will obey with centiment. no wonder this country is larking behind because we are made up of foolish people 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Attack,how Real Is It? by paxonel(m): 6:32am On Jul 23, 2014 |
Adorayble: Hey peepz... I av heard a couple of friends talk abt their experiences with witches and bla bla bla,some say dey come to press dem wen they r asleep,some say they see shadows and all dt... Please hw true is dis+ share ur experience!  Adorayble: Hey peepz... I av heard a couple of friends talk abt their experiences with witches and bla bla bla,some say dey come to press dem wen they r asleep,some say they see shadows and all dt... Please hw true is dis+ share ur experience!ahaaahaaaha! that is a mindset that is induced by poverty. nothing of such exist in reality 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Women Dress Indecently To Church Nowadays by paxonel(m): 6:05am On Jul 23, 2014 |
intentional nudity is madness, nobody is associated with madness |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Logic Not Allowed In The Mega Religions Of The World? by paxonel(m): 1:33am On Jul 23, 2014*. Modified: 1:59am On Jul 23, 2014 |
Onyegecha: We were created to be logical beings. That is what distinguishes us from other animals we call lower beings. We apply logic and common sense in everything we do but when it comes to religion, we are told to keep logic out of it. Is that not why the entire religious world is in chaos?I think the Bible is very logical in all ramifications that is why it is difficult for African pastors to understand Bible leading to chaos everywhere in Christianity and Nigeria in general. I want to say it here clearly that it is not all aspect of the Bible that logical reasoning is not needed. It is not needed to understand spiritual aspect of the Bible but only faith is needed But when it comes to the physical aspect my dear,you can't throw away logical reasoning.Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? so you must understand physical(earthly ) things first before you even think of understanding spiritual(heavenly) things and to understand physical things, logical reasoning is required. Is it law of identity you can't find in Bible which states that an object is nothing but that object (eg, John 1:1 clearly establlish the identity of Jesus that he is God saying In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God) or law of non contradiction which states that a statement A should not contradict another statement B (eg, the saying that Abraham was not justified into eternal life by works in Romans 4:2 do not contradict the saying that Abraham was justified by works in James 2:21 because Romans was talking about justification into eternal life which is salvation through christ while James was talking about justification of our works here on earth,bad or good ) or is it law of excluded middle you don't find in Bible which states that the existence of an object A do not prevent another object B to exist independently (eg, John 3:6 which. says That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.) name it the Bible which is not a spirit because we can see it, touch it, read it and understand it just like any other book (if you and your pastor can't understand Bible does not mean that it takes some spiritual inspiration from God to understand it because some people are understanding it. all heads are not equal )There is no fallacies in the Bible ! not one single fallacy is found in the Bible, it's amazing. (Nigerian pastors are full of non sequito in their speeches all of them. the Bible is very discrete,irrational in it approach and very objective yet Nigerian christians choose to be foolish, white men are not foolish like that. my advice to Nigerian christians is if we want to move this nation forward we must not abandon education. our problem is always this attitude on the side of our 100 level undergraduates. they abandoned their general study texts after passing the exams thinking the text is not important in their life again. they even throw the book away. it is very bad. it is causing problem in this country especially in the religious world 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Women Dress Indecently To Church Nowadays by paxonel(m): 6:51pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
drmary: I was so disgusted in church today, when I saw how ladies, both married and single wore micro mini gowns and bossom revealing tops to d house of God without any fear.I kept asking myself why ? Pls reasonable contribution@staggerman, it is the spirit that gives life, God bless you @tpia1, na ya own be that, thank God you nor be God |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by paxonel(m): 6:42pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
@nep2ra, that's true, you are right |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Women Dress Indecently To Church Nowadays by paxonel(m): 3:50pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
@dux01, you are right men are strongly attracted to women and vice vesa, but the strength of the attraction cannot be so overwhelming until the man begin to loose his senses. It is also true that some women deliberately dress indecently to attract men in church but you will never be certain that they do it deliberately because of this you can never hold them responsible for anything. And God will not hold them responsible either, whether they do it deliberately or not because like i said before, Jesus says it is not what goes into a man that defiles him but it is what comes out of him that defiles and i tried to explain that parable in my last post. So let every man guide his heart with all diligence because indecent dressing has come to stay,nobody can change it,that is how God want it, you can't fight God. you try to quote something in the Bible by saying Jesus says woe to the person that temptation will come? if I,m not mistaken you were trying to quote luke 17:1-2 which says 1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that OFFENCES will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. the problem about Africans, when they read Bible they do not follow the story behind the Scripture so they easily mis-interprete the Bible that is why this country is in a state of confusion please know the story behind this Scripture you will know why it was written like this the meaning of the word OFFENCES as used in the context of this Scripture is TO MAKE DISCIPLES STOP BELIEVING IN JESUS BY DECEIVING THEM and the Jewish leaders who killed christ had that reputation of deceiving the jews in those days. infact if you read the proceeding chapter,chapter 16 which is the contiuation of chapter 17, chapter 16:31 says And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. You know the story of Lazarus and the rich man?that is what it is talking about. the bottom line of that story is the Jews refuses to here Moses and all the prophets including Jesus Christ because they thought they have their father Abraham who they should listen to hence the meaning of OFFENCES was disciples stop listening to Jesus by deception therefore he was simply saying WOE TO ANY MAN (refering to the Jewish leaders ) WHO WHOM DECEPTION WILL COME Now,does that relate to temptation by women who dress indecently to church? it does not relate or correlate with indecent dressing in any way you can now see how we Africans mis-interprete Bible to suit our cultural line of thinking and dressing to discredit western dressing which we look as indecent. it is very bad |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Women Dress Indecently To Church Nowadays by paxonel(m): 8:18am On Jul 22, 2014 |
[quote author=Dux01][/quote]Dux01 the only thing that please God is when you Love God and love your neighbour as yourself not your dressing. God is a spirit how does your dressing affect spirit God negatively?.no. Love God is symply believing in Jesus for your salvation which a girl who goes to church has done already so she is saved. to love your neighbour as yourself is to keep the 10 Commandments, do you see thou shall not dress like this or dress like that in 10 commandments? no you can see that all these laws of dressing you people are putting in churches are not in the 10 commandments which is the law of love therefore they are optional, they are not by force . if men can't control themselves in churches let them rape any girl because she is dressing indecently then let's see what will happen. or have you not read in the Bible Jesus saying in his parables it is not what goes into a man that defiles him rather it is what comes out of him that defiles him? that simply means a lot of things go into us from out environment through our eyes, nose, mouth, the food we eat, but they can't defile us rather it is out heart which is inside us that defiles us. when a mans heart is evil all he thinks is to look for opportunity to hurt his few neighbour, if the opportunity he sees is indecent dressing in girls he will want to undermind the girl and hurt her. but responsible men don't think like that. responsible men take things in their environment the way they see it, they treat everybody equally in love irrespective of your dressing whether in church or anywhere |
and disobedience and the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience.. Keep the commandments of God and pay ur tithes and honour Him with the tenth of ur earnings... God warns us not to bend His laws...... As for the heretic teachers like pastor kun and his company who pervert God's word and lead many astray against paying tithes... Repentance is needed from them or else a fiery indignation from the Eternal Judge will fall on them.. The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit.. Amen