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So, how does these revival translate to a better economy and good standard of living?

No revival in America yet they are far better

judemurphy:
does speaking in tongues guarantee you a place in heaven

no!
It is only your faith in Christ that guarantee your place in heaven

or you can be speaking in tongues and still go to hell

that is not possible!
You were first a Christian having faith in Christ before you started speaking in tongues that is what matters when it comes to salvation.
Nothing can make you loose that salvation except you stop believing in Christ or become an adherent of other religions like Islam, atheism, budhaism.

Scriptures says you are justified by your faith or the just shall live by his faith

Ok

@Michael547 what is God's kingdom?

godliman:
I have but it is not worth it the heresy is deep

if na conspiracy theory i talk like your pastors them you go say right done sir!

Mind only wetin ya brain fit carry you nor gree

THIS PASTOR SEF

SO NORTHERN MUSLIMS ARE NOT HUMANS TOO BECAUSE THEY USE ALLAH TO BEG Abi?

What is the church, building?

godliman:
Conc undiluted heresy

where are your premises

you have absolutely nothing to say

godliman:
"If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most miserable" ICor 15:19

it still do not mean that heaven is elsewhere away from this earth or heaven is not right in the spirit of a believer.

Do you know that when you die life doesn't end there for you, hence the scripture if only in this life we have hope in Christ we are of all men most miserable?

Our hope in Christ is that when we die we will continue to live on this earth after that moment, not we taken away from this earth.

So heaven is here with us here on this earth,
Heaven is right inside us in the spirit and no where else

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ebenice:
so the world will not get any better?

it depends on what humans do

AntiChristian:
Those people will be reincarnated like Elijah and John the Baptist.

You don't understand the Bible!

Seek for the holy spirit!

ok sir

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Yes

obonujoker:
Stop saying or writing what you don't know

stop talking like an absolute religious dictator, present your reasons

Yes, how come?

Luke 9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

Some standing here?
Who were these some that stood there, people living in our future when rapture will take place before they see the kingdom of God?

Rapture teaches that there will be rapture which will happen someday in our future after which the saints will see the kingdom of God, how come Jesus says these people who lived 2000 years ago will see the kingdom while they were yet alive?

BigCowH0rn:
And he created the world in just 7 days abi?
Monday to Sunday

that is what religion will tell you but that isn't the case. Another scripture says a thousand years is like one day before God. Obviously, the 7 days creation was simple terms used to the understanding of primitive men who exist in bible days, and that is what we still see today in the book.

Let me let you in on an open secret.
The Holy Bible is a heavily coded book that is very simple but at the same time too complex for unbelievers to understand.
That coded knowledge, taken at face value will always make smart people look foolish

you are absolutely right

Verily verily i say unto the mosquitos in my room that can only live for 2 weeks......... "My Otapiapia will not finsih until all your generations pass a way"

Rapture is fake

Yes, whose next

worlexy:
Matthew 24:1-2
Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

i quoted John 4:21 and John 2:19-21 that what Jesus meant by the term "there will not be left one stone upon another " in Matthew 24:2 is something totally different from what the disciples had in mind when they asked him this question, but you are still looking at what the disciples asked to buttress your point not knowing that even the disciples were confused themselves.

Scriptures are contextual, no scripture in the bible can be understood in isolation. Every scriptures are linked to some other scriptures in correlation, AND IF WHAT YOU ARE READING DOES NOT LINK YOU TOWARDS THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF CHRIST THEN YOU HAVE LOST IT
If it linked you to one irrelevant 70 AD you have lost it

-This happened in 70AD when the Roman army besieged Jerusalem and destroyed the temple like Jesus said

in contrary to Matthew 24 that the generation of the disciples did not pass?

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

what you are saying contradicts the bible.
It does not have any scritural bearing!
No where in the bible that 70AD events were mentioned.
But i quoted John 4:21 and John 2:19-21 to buttress my points and they correlate, any reasonable person who follows this thread will see that.

And come to think of it, do you know how many times the israelites temple was destroyed and rebuild since Jesus died and resurrected up till this modern day? There is no significance of all that to salvation, but rather it was Christ's death and resurrection recorded in the bible that matters.

worlexy:
You were the one that made mention of Jesus saying that the temple would be rebuilt after 3 days when destroyed and I responded to you accordingly.

Why are you now asking if that part was mentioned in Matthew 24? So you didn’t know that it wasn’t mentioned before you brought it up in the first place?

I'm saying that whether it was the scripture Jesus said he will rebuild the temple in 3 days or Matthew 24:2, he wasn't referring to the temple at Jerusalem in both cases. He was simply saying he was going to be crucified and resurrect after 3 days, the process that will destroy the temple to set up a new covenant.

Sorry, I'm just trying to be accurate as much as possible

worlexy:
Jesus spoke about two temples: his body and Jerusalem temple.

in Matthew 24?
Go and read it again and see if two temples were mentioned,I don't know where you get that from.

The second temple he talked about was also destroyed as he prophesied and it happened in the generation of the people he was talking to

the only temple mentioned was that of Jerusalem which the disciples showed to him, but he told them that the temple will be destroyed, that was spoken figuratively. (like a parable).
In the literal sense what that means is : At Jesus crucifixion and resurrection that temple will no more be the temple of God(which is the destruction), but rather the body of believers will become the real temple of God where worship is done in spirit and in truth and God dwells within in their heart.

John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem(referring to the temple at Jerusalem), worship the Father.

This is what it means when Jesus said the temple will be destroyed

worlexy:
Op Jesus’ word is the truth and nothing but the truth.

no doubt

In order for you to understand Matthew 24:34, you need to understand the questions Jesus was asked at the beginning of that chapter in Matthew 24:1-3


“Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”


“ As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

The asked two questions
First was when the Jerusalem temple will be destroyed

Second was the sign of Jesus’ second coming


Prophets of old often grouped events together by their topic rather than their chronology, and in this discourse Jesus did the same. He addressed what in Matthew are grammatically two separate questions as highlighted above.

that does not dispute the fact that the whole bible was written chronologically.ie,the time of the old testament events were much older than that of the new testament, right?

The disciples might have viewed these questions as integrally related but Jesus distinguished them:

I'm very sure that the disciples didn't understand anything Jesus was saying to them in Matthew 24 until Jesus died and resurrected. It was after his resurrection that Jesus began to fully expanciate on some of those things written about him that he was trying to explain to his disciples in Matthew 24

Luke 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

When will the temple be destroyed: within a generation. As Jesus proclaimed, the temple was destroyed roughly 40 years after Jesus spoke those words. Go and read the event that happened in Jerusalem in the year AD 70 then you’ll understand better.

but you have read a scripture when Jesus told the Pharisees "destroy this temple and i will build it within 3 days", what will you say to that?
Did it take 40 years to destroy and rebuild the temple by Jesus Christ or 3 days, choose one?

You can read this link as well:
https://www.britannica.com/event/Siege-of-Jerusalem-70

I just mention Jesus told the Pharisees he will rebuild the temple in 3 days, is that what the article confirmed?
If not, then don't you think what is valid is what is written in the bible,that it took 3 days for Jesus to rebuild the temple?

Why are we still waiting for rapture that must have taken Jesus 3 days to complete 2000 years ago?
Certainly, he said that generation did not pass until everything he said in Matthew 24 was fulfilled, he was very truthful.

What will be the sign of his coming: he gave the signs and said it will happen at an hour no one knows.

it was because nobody knew who he was now in that hour of his death and resurrection.
The Pharisees didn't know he was the Christ so they didn't believe.
The disciples who believe didn't know that he was about to be crucified talkless of believing he will resurrect.
So, the signs were actually the signs of his death and resurrection, not rapture.

Do you see the extent to which you people are confused in Christianity today?

Earthquake was one that of the signs he mentioned, there was earthquake the day he was crucified.
Rumors of wars was one the signs, the Roman empire conquered and ruled Israel about the time he was crucified.
So,

You people cannot think at all

Matthew 24:14 made us know that Jesus said his second coming won’t take place until all the nations of the world have heard the gospel.

firstly,he did not mention second, please correct yourself.

Secondly, the gospel of kingdom was preached starting by John the Baptist.
It was preached by Jesus and his disciples until Jesus was crucified, that crucifixion and resurrection was the end of the world.

The world in this context does not necessarily mean the whole world.
The end of the world therefore could possibly mean the end of the old covenant and the beginning of a new covenant

There was no way that could have taken place in that generation but it’s possible in our generation because of advancement in mass communication and transportation.
Shalom

oh, see you!

Keep waiting my dear, the world will simply move on and leave you behind

capnies:
HOW MANY VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE HAVE YOU READ. REMEMBER THIS WAS TRANSLATED FROM GREEK; SO YOU NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER TRANSLATIONS BEFORE YOU CAN DRAW CONCLUSION.

No translation could possibly say anything different.
For instance :

Matthew 24:34(Revised standard version) truly i say unto you, THIS GENERATION will not pass till all these things takes place

You see that?
This generation implies the generation of his disciples he was talking to 2000 years ago, not any time beyond that.

If truly there was anything like rapture it would have happened 2000 years ago

eg PSALM 16:10 THE WORD HELL IN KJV IS TRANSLATED REALM OF THE DEAD IN NIV, WHICH I PERCEIVE IS MORE ACCURATE

very true!

But that is not the case in Matthew 24:34

MrOnPoint:
You remember Humandriod, Billyonaire? The same thing that happened to him. Now am about to be a Billionaire too.

All need to be doing now is having good sex and staying clean.

ok

MrOnPoint:
Rapture is real. I've been raptured. The problem is that most people are not rapturable. You have to be very spiritually in tuned to be raptured.

ok,you have been raptured.

Please explain how this has happen, what was your experience?

Image123:
Na queen's English Him take talk am na, keep searching.

whatever language that was translated to English couldn't have misuse grammar by using the term "THIS GENERATION" to refer to a future generation.

Don't be deceived

Ogamysamo:
seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you.

many people will be asking pastors to bless them neglecting their main need which is salvation.

thou you may need to be rich, thou you may need to be favor, thou you many need heaven and earth but it is there in the scripture exhorting you to seek the kingdom of God and then if you have it, all other things innumerable shall be added unto you.

matthew 16:26
for what would a man gain if he got all the riches of this world, or what could a man gain if he win the whole world all to himself and loss his own soul?

brothers and sisters, what is as important as yourself? what is more important to you, than your own soul?

come to Jesus the saviour now that you still have the opportunity and privilledge, seek him now when the sun shine, for twilight shall come when even thou you'll search heaven and earth for him, you'll never see him.
now is the time for salvation

op, yeye dey smell for your yansh

He shock them abi
Where them were dem dey criticize this man?