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Another side of @LordReed interesting. I like this exchange. |
Go and enrol to be a priest it's not too late for you. You already have a direction meet your priest. Dyke15: |
PoliteActivist:The new pill does not cure or cut deaths...that's a lie, even the company doesn't claim so. They claim that the pill reduces the effects of Covid. So question is if the vaccine reduces the symptoms or effects of Covid, why is there need for a pill that isn't a cure. You believe in a lie that you are told and are aggressively defending it even when you have no access to a viable laboratory in your country. You should know that it takes more than one year to develop a working vaccine. Covid19 is a novel illness according to them and they whipped up a therapy for you in three months. You are the test subjects and unfortunately you're not being paid for the human trial. How long did they test the pill, when did they announce works on the pill, who were those who took part in the human trials and what was the result. You see what happens when people cut corners, its not only 21 stories that will fall to kill people. The fatality that the world is about to experience with these rushed gene therapy is going to be worse than an apocalypse. If you think people care about race or color when cutting the world population, think again. |
Don't believe but I don't know why Christians do this sha. There is nothing like hell fire..there is a lake of fire but that comes after the final judgement. Nobody is burning in hellfire right now. They may be in Sheol, or the dimensions of the dead, or Abraham's Bossom (paradise not heaven) but certainly not hell fire. Most dreams of hell fire are either memories from studying the scripture for long or a warning in our personal lives not to stray from the path of God. Seeing renowned pastors or people we know in hell or in heaven is completely false. The only exception is if the person in question has a history of going through dimensions but even at that it can't still be a hell fire because it does not exist. Hell may exist but not with the fire, again I repeat there is only one lake of fire and that is the second death. |
You see where you're wrong..you are comparing the accounts of a movie or comic book character to reality. If we go by what you are saying then Aristotle, Plato and others are fictional characters. There are historical accounts of the existence of Jesus Christ outside the Bible. Even historians will never agree with you that Jesus Christ is a fictitious character. There are many records that proved he walked the earth. All the disciples and everything that happened during their era, has record. You are forgetting that Jesus Christ existed at a time, people were literate and could read and write. It was not a remote village setting, please go and study history and stop arguing blindly on nairaland. Anyway who wants to learn should be able to read wide and travel the ends of the earth to find the truth. Arguing back and forth without any practical approach is futile and fruitless. sonmvayina: |
You still don't understand me. I am not supporting any denomination. I am not saying that Christianity is the only true or pure way. I am telling you that the gospel of Jesus Christ is real. As for Christianity, it has evolved and been transformed in gazillion ways. It is corrupted and what we now a control system in the name of religion. Everything Jesus taught is in line with the old testament. However, the church system of today is something else. I am defending the gospel of Christ and not the religion of church. Whether Judaism or Christianity, they are all man-made ideologies and they conform with man. They change and they come up with unexplainable practices, that is what Jesus came to abolish. The only thing that does not change is the word of God. When Jesus talked about the church, he was talking about you and I as the temple of God. He was not talking about creating branches or denominations. In fact he worshipped in the temple, where judiasm was practiced. He specifically said he had not come to introduce a new law or religion but to fulfill the prophecy or the word of God. In fact the term Christian, was coined as followers of Christ and not to mean a religion. He brought the gospel to people who were not originally from Israel or according to the Bible gentiles. So its not a building, its not a church, its a relationship with God and his creators. Like I said again, study the history of religion, trace the history, I am not defending a church, I am talking about the gospel of truth. sonmvayina: |
I have done a lot of research and still doing more. I have looked at it from every angle whether Hinduism, Islam, and other religions including freemasonry. I am telling you, that the new testament has nothing to do with idolatry. If Christianity has been corrupted, that I agree. Infact we have deviated from the true purpose of the religion and many have wielded its power to control people. Yes Christianity has committed a lot of attrocities and even imbibed new age practices and idolatry. However, if you look at the new testament, you see how much it criticizes Judaism. All the disciples were persecuted and killed by the Jews including Jesus Christ himself. They are the people of the law and were rightfully God's own people. However, their adolatory ways or practices and disobedience led them away from God. They don't like the way Christianity portrays them like the prodigal child. They were so fixated on the law and they were not even abiding by it. The Jewish people have a lot of questionable practices and trust me, when you find out you won't be all on their side. You should also find out why it became necessary for Jesus to fulfill the assignment he came to the heart to do. Like I said, for a critical analysis of any religion, you have to look at every angle. I am not defending Christianity because I'm a Christian but because I am convinced it is the truth. I read literature, watch educational documentaries, look for old manuscripts and learn from different people's perspectives. Besides not all jews are against Jesus. They are actually divided and the Bible says many of them will still come to believe eventually. 22jumpstreet: |
No, my belief is born out of conviction. I understand my belief and I know why I choose to follow it. I'm not a person who easily accepts things and I consider myself a very argumentative person. However, I chose my belief because I am convinced it is true. I still continue to learn more about it and investigate it. I don't take things just because a pastor says so or because the religion says so. I go deeper and I look for answers. The Jews don't believe in Jesus and Apostle Paul mentioned it in Romans. The same reason is simply because people follow a book from page to page and forget that it contains the realities of life. Even when some people including Christians stare at the Messiah face-to-face, they will still argue scripture and deny him. The truth is if you understand the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, you will understand that it is not the same as slaughtering a goat. Jesus Christ came to the world to share the truth about God. He wanted people to know that it was easy to relate with God and have a close relationship with him. The Pharisees were extorting people like we have pastors today doing the same thing. The sacrifice Jesus made can be compared to the sacrifices freedom fighters make in the world today. Nobody wants to hear the truth and when someone speaks up, they are silenced. Jesus brought truth and that was why he was killed, it was a sacrifice because he knew that he would be killed for what he would share to the world. The fact of been saved by is sacrifice is what a lot of Christians misconstrue. With the that sacrifice, we can seek repentance to God directly, why because we know the truth. We know that God is not hard to reach. We don't need to make sacrifices in some temple or fill the bellies of priests, or Pharisees to get God's pardon. If you read through the history of the practices of the Jewish Pharisees, you will see why they hated Jesus. He abolished their practices and made people see that they were being deceived. So I'll advise you when studying or trying to criticize Christianity, look at all angles of religion, and try to understand their dynamics. You will eventually be able to point out the truth. There are lots of references, from history books and not only the Bible that brings a wider truth. 22jumpstreet: |
@22jumpstreet....well if you don't believe in the second coming that's on you. If I believe that's on me too. What if all of this happens to be true and you find out at the last minute..how would you feel? If you feel you are much clever than the generations of Christians that have believed in the Messiah. The fact that you don't believe doesn't make you right..and the fact that I believe doesn't make me right either. However, I think we should all respect each others belief and stop trying to convince people that they are stupid. If you don't know where you were before you were formed in your mother's womb or don't know where you are going after you are dug in the grave, you don't have any right to tell people that their beliefs don't matter. |
Well people pray to avert disasters because not all are meant to be. Some accidents or deaths are not natural. I think prayers are spiritual and are meant to combat spiritual events or things...if it is a natural event, it will certainly happen. If a disaster is going to happen and is caused by suspicious or spiritual forces, your prayers will prevent such plans from taking place. 1Sharon: |
@HardMirror.... I don't know what you're driving at but if I go by what you say, it means everyone should be saved and nobody should ever die. Well the cycle of life is that we live and we die. Some deaths can be avoided especially in this case if the builder hadn't cut corners. However, it happened and people died in it. I don't think God is going to save every freak accident or even people who die of natural causes. I believe that when people are saved, it just means it's not the end of their road. As for if those who died are saved, yes if they repented and prayed before their passing. Death is not the end, it may be the end of their journey here on earth but it is just the beginning. And God answers prayers, however, destiny happens. Everyone has an appointed time... please know that and God bless you. |
This your dream got me digging. Apparently there is a two year plan to restructure/reform the Catholic Church by the Pope Francis. There is a lot of controversy about this reform and not many people are welcoming it. It will come in three phases from this year through 2023. There will be a one month long synod of bishops at the Vatican in October, 2023 which will be for the universal stage. This is where the resolution of the two year reform will take place. Probably a signing of a document who knows since all bishops from around the world will be present at the Vatican. Also, on another note, they plan on completing the Abrahamic worship Center in Abu Dhabi next year...the one with the mosque, church and Jewish temple in one place. I don't know how that fits or if it's part of the reform just thought to mention. I guess we have two years of gathering ahead of us. https://tickernews.co/new-age-church-pope-francis-launches-ambitious-reform/amp/ https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/amp/news/249241/2023-synod-on-synodality-pope-francis-launches-2-year-synodal-path-with-call-to-encounter-listen-and-discern [quote author=annyplenty Shalom[/quote] |
Please ignore kobojunkie...he will keep dragging it out with you. Those that have heard your message will prepare and like in the days of Noah, not everyone listened of believed. The word of God is flowing all over the world and it is our duty as Christians to keep watch. annyplenty: |
Obviously it's beyond your reasoning because you have chosen to limit your mind and are hell bent on convincingly yourself that God doesn't exist. Have you even considered the population of the world at the time of Noah...did you think to trace the generation of the first Adam to Noah? Did you find out how much of the earth had been explored by man at that time? Okay, that's your answer. The large part of the earth was unoccupied by man at that time. If you don't understand a story, history helps fill the gaps. Workch: |
Your topic is Eucharist adoration...I answered you pointing at the instruction of Jesus Christ and you're asking me to trade words with you on the old testament. Are you confused? It only shows you still don't understand what the Eucharist symbolises. It's not hard to read, the information is online and everywhere. If you don't understand the breaking of the bread and drinking of wine that Jesus Christ had with the disciples, Its just sad. Do you think I have time for unhealthy arguments that does not profit the body of Christ? Anyway, I pray for you. sonmvayina: |
They were fact-checking a video online that notified people of continuous plane crashes. If you check the news on the plane crashes in the last thirty days you will be shocked. A lot of pilots developing stroke while flying the plane. One died midair, the second pilot had to do an emergency landing to save the passengers and to carry the dead pilot out. Here's an airforce doctor who was silenced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyzhX2qNzVk |
All the cover ups will soon be exposed gradually. It's not the first time in history that these vaccines have done damage. People don't listen. If you say you took it and it doesn't affect you now, what will you do when the effects begin to show in a few years? How would you feel if you heard they recalled the vaccine in a few weeks or months? Would you feel duped...well they say patience is a virtue..not everyone has it. Look before you leap. But instead Nigerians who don't have a functioning research lab are screaming pro-vaccine. Here is Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, he gave his citizens a fair hearing to state their adverse effects. There are lots of these vaccine injuries and deaths covered by the vaccine manufacturers and CDC. Anyway a word is enough for the wise. <iframe width="932" height="524" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wTk8G3i2dfs" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTk8G3i2dfs |
Even the CDC that are mandating the vaccine are not taking it. They refused to study natural immunity and they are forcing people to take their poison. <iframe width="932" height="524" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QabAtYBnqro" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QabAtYBnqro |
I mentioned a portion of the Bible and you asked me to quote the old testament for you. Lazy Christians, just come here to argue blindly...go and read your Bible and grow in the knowledge of God. We should be mature Christians and not babies as Apostle Paul said...if you like ask me where he said it...mtchew[quotee author=sonmvayina post=107424829]What did God say the Messiah was coming to do? Give relevant old testament quotes to support your answer.. I will wait.[/quote] |
South is not North... every family in the south has a mixture of Christian, Muslim and even atheists. People are looking for how to make it and someone thinks South is all about religion. Even the Ileya meat, some people have already booked down their appointment. Mtchew professor indeed. |
You see where you're wrong, first of all this vaccine has not gone through all the safety processes vaccines undergo. In fact this is the second time in history that a vaccine has boycotted due process, the first time didn't go well and it was recalled after a lot of damage had been done. The alarming rate of adverse reactions is enough to cause worry. As of today nobody knows the long term effects of this vaccine. That's enough to make people hesitant. If you go through the history of vaccines, you will understand why a lot of people are sceptical at first. Maybe in a few years time people will trust it but now I don't think so. Again the vaccine is not free anyone who tells you that is lying to you. Besides we are going to be paying 6k per dose in Nigeria very soon for it. As per being free, using tax payers money to pay for the vaccine does not equal to free. It means money is taken somewhere and going into accounts. You said you don't mind wearing facemasks till eternity, do you know the health implications of continuous facemask wearing? Do you know that for that few hours you have it on, the amount of carbon dioxide you are inhaling is enough to kill you? Anyway, its not a choice when the government insists that people won't be able to work or get access to basic things or even prevent their travel. That's not a choice. You can't advocate for a treatment that has completely failed. If the vaccine can't protect you from Covid or prevent transmission, how do we really eradicate this pandemic? There is a lot of concern and I wish our African leaders and scientists can investigate this. This people can't keep tossing things to us and we just take it. MiamiePizza: |
My people perish for lack of knowledge. If you don't understand why and how things are done, then your best bet is to go into deep research. Take dive into the history of theology and religion. You see one of the problems we have in this last days is how Christians turn against each other. It was the same thing that happened during the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ. Some people were so fixated on the old testament that they argued their way even when they saw the Messiah. They refused to acknowledge him, they charged him with blasfemy, false religion and all sorts of accusations. Today, its either an argument against Catholic church or Jehovah witness saying nobody except them are the true Christians. We turn against each other and we condemn ourselves. We as the body of Christ are supposed to learn from each other, grow in faith and be led by the Holy Spirit. Instead we play Judge and Executioner. How can the Holy Spirit be in conflict? God is not an author of confusion. It is not in your place to judge people's religious practice. Serve your God in the way you understand instead of playing critic to other people's worship practices. I am Catholic and proud. I do not worship any image or symbol. I understand my church's practices and traditions. I will tell anyone who is interested in knowing why these traditions exist, to go and deepen their knowledge and understanding. At least it is the same Bible that is in front of you where Jesus broke the bread and said this is my body giving to you for the forgiveness of sins. He told his disciples to do this tradition in rememberance that he shed his blood for our sins. The Holy Eucharist is not an idol it is a symbol of the blessed sacrament, of the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross. When you see a silver and gold object, people connect with Christ on the cross and make their supplications. They do not worship the blessed sacrament, instead they are reminded of the Lord Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross. It may make no sense to you but again what do we know, if you don't seek the truth, how do you know it? Instead you open pages of the Bible and be arguing like a blind Christian. A true Christian will seek answers. Enough said, have a blessed week. |
@MiamiePizza, good for you. Not everyone was lucky. Anyway I'm sure it's your choice but I'm very sure you know its not the vaccine that protected you from the virus. Again, it doesn't work but I guess this days vaccine means different things for different people. I'm hoping they find a permanent cure. Besides how do you feel about taking shots every 6 months. I don't think I take anything other than malaria drugs every 2-3 years. Besides, what if they invent another virus, will we keep sticking stuff in our arms? Like if I were you I'd be bothered that about that. When you don't have diabetes or some long term illness where you have to depend on drugs. Are you still going on masks? Cos I don't get if that's the new fashion even after vaccination. Anyway, the controversy around this disease, its vaccine is why I'm not going anywhere near it. At least not for now and I don't think hell or mark of the beast is what we should be worried about. I think we should all be worried about pharmaceuticals finding a way to keep people on drugs to make profit. If its not a lasting cure, then its a no for me. Thank you. |
From the interview did you see her face? Do you know her? Do you know when it was recorded? Did you hear the cracking voice? How na? You sef.... I've concluded that people who argue too much just like to hear themselves talk. LordReed: |
Please tell me you are joking or I'm not going to choose to think you to be dumb. How do you report a high rank cult practice to the police? Didn't you hear when she said they are in the police, government and everywhere? These people run the affairs of the world and you are talking about authorities. She couldn't even reveal her identity because she knows she would be killed. Even if you are against religion please it's not everything you criticize? Have the authorities vanquished human trafficking, or terrorism? You think there are no group of people who engage in crazy shit and still get to walk free? Do you even think there is a justice system anywhere in the world right now? Like for real, you go report to authorities?... anyway I'm just telling the OP what the church of Satan does...so he doesn't believe the whitewashed version on the internet. LordReed: |
https://youtu.be/egDwdyLShfg This might interest you on this topic [quote author=XXXXTENTACION cc: Lordreed, budatum, otematum and workch[/quote] |
You really need to have a personal encounter with God. If you already did, you would know about discernment. You will know how to identify the demons, and evil spirits. You will understand God clearly and know him better. You can argue with scripture from now till the end of time but without a personal encounter with God, all of it is empty. How do you get to know God better, like I said keep an open mind. Know how God speaks to you. If it is through the Bible, meditate on the word of God. I don't know. However, what I do know is that you can't know God by arguing with everyone on scripture. Nobody gets far doing that and all you end up doing is blocking knowledge Kobojunkie: |
Having a personal encounter with God has nothing to do with personal whims or how I feel. If I feel anything now, it's I want ice cream or to satisfy a personal goal. However, when you study the word of God and also experience the word of God come to life, that is the connection we have with God. We are God's creation and we are connected by spirit. Our interaction is by spirit and not by personal whims. You can't tell if I follow the word of God or live by his laws on naira land. However, telling you to connect with God in spirit is the duty of every Child of God. So please go and experience God. Allow the Holy Spirit guide you and for once in your life stop arguing. Kobojunkie: |
Blessed are those that have not seen but yet believe. You are a typical example of a doubting Thomas. If you were born at the time of Jesus, you would have crucified him also. You would have joined the jews to condemn him strictly quoting word for word from the old testament. Even if He were to appear to you, you would still deny him. I seriously pray that you have a very close encounter with God. Kobojunkie: |
@Kobojunkie, when you serve God, you should serve him in truth and in spirit. Yes the word of God is there to guide us. However, we are all spiritual beings and we should open the eyes of our heart to see the truth and realities of life. If you keep a closed circuit mind, you will never see the true picture. You don't argue everything with scripture. How do you argue people's experience with Scripture? If you want to learn the truth? Open your eyes. Kobojunkie: |
@kingzy02....where your research stopped, others have gone far and beyond. You described the official position of mrna. However, I have questions: 1. Where is the mrna, derived from? They claim it is synthetic but still no information is released further. 2. Are you aware that there are fetal cells present in the mrna vaccine? 3. Why is there no full disclosure about the components of the vaccine? The Ghanian and South African Presidents complained about this. If the pandemic is critical and an emergency, why are local manufacturers not given information to produce it locally. 4. What are the short term and long term extreme adverse effects? Are the adverse effects been recorded in Nigeria? 5. What if a person experiences myocarditis, what health packages are available to Nigerians who suffer extreme adverse effects? 6. What is the current state of our health system in the country? Will there be compensation in case of death or serious injury from the vaccine? 7. Is the mrna vaccine effective in perpetuity? Or would we still require additional vaccines yearly? 8. Can the Nigerian government afford to vaccinate people for free in perpetuity? What will be the cost on individual in the long term? 9. Will continuous vaccination lead to vaccine dependency? 10. How will the vaccine affect other diseases or sicknesses that are not covid related? 11. So far efficient has the vaccine being in countries with high vaccination rate? 12. Is it true that there have been a series of plane crashes in the United States in the last 30 days, with pilots experiencing sudden stroke? Any relation to the vaccine? 13. When will the use of face masks be stopped after everyone is vaccinated? There is still more questions but I will stop for now. I hope you make time out to answer me. Anyway I came across Project Veritas and their whistle blowers. I know it's a lot but I will like you to take an informed look at the journalist videos and give an unbiased opinion. They did a lot of private investigation on the vaccine manufacturers. It isn't here say. Remember that what is always on paper is never the true picture. Sometimes you need to go closer to the source. So please watch as many as the videos as may be relevant to this topic. Especially if your aim is truly to educate and kill the misconceptions and conspiracies concerning the vaccine. https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc |
Haha...why na. Me I want money...is there a way I can negotiate with God? He is seriously dealing with me. Truvelisback: |
