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Instead of sounding amazed and abusive at the same time. Why not educate yourself by doing your research on exorcism. You can be curious enough to explore the deliverance ministry and learn something.

We are at constant war against powers and principalities. Even the bible still mentions that those who have been delivered should still go through cleansing if not the demon will reinforce and occupy their original home in thousands.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ehen! Christ and demon will stay together in one person!

Wow, many are indeed mad!

Yes it is very possible. You have to understand why people get possessed by spirits in the first place. I think sin is what leaves you open for evil spirits. Being born again does not make you sinless. I think we all sin and that is why we should every now and then cleanse our hearts. Ask for forgiveness and even sometimes do personal deliverance to keep ourselves clean so evil does not find a way.

greencard:
Is it possible for a Christian who is born again to get possessed by demon?




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Tayejiboluwa
TheNoble007
CharlyG1
Lostchild

It just baffles me why Nigerians don't like to think. If people are aware of history, they wouldn't take unnecessary risks. If you are taking this vaccine because you are afraid of death, I'm sorry but you are a very silly person.

I expect the Nigerian government to be interested in investigating the root cause of Covid. People can't just manufacture illnesses and not be held accountable.

If a Nigerian whipped up a vaccine in our lab within 3 months will our experts or the government accept it. I remember last year when Nafdac outlined the process of drug testing and approval for people with known cure. From what I gathered, they were ready to take necessary precautions.
However, when the western world boycotts this process and hands us a drug we don't ask questions. Up until now, the vaccines are still patented and even our drug agencies don't know what is in it. Yet you hear people tell you take the vaccine.


Worse part is it does not even fall in the class of vaccines. Does it prevent covid? NO, Does it stop transmission? NO, What does it do? They tell you it reduces hospitalisations. Yet we still hear of thousands who have died while fully vaccinated. Even if you don't have a science degree, does it mean that logic is dead?

I really pity people who think they are taking a not fully tested drug to save their lives. People die everyday. Fear shouldn't be the reason we act but we should act with reason and common sense.

Your health is your choice and nobody should take that from you. If you put anything in your body, know that you can't take it out. I'm not saying don't take the vaccine, I'm saying know what you are getting. Don't be forced into an experiment or world politics.

Oh really? Your message doesn't sound like someone trying to talk about their experience. If not it would simply be. Oh I've taken my first jab, it's been alright so far, and I only feel pain in the injection area.

Not a lecture of how gullible 666 conspiracy theorists are or an entire epistle of how fantastic the vaccine is. Or how every person that calls you out on your lie is an NFA. Anyway, don't go too far lab rat, we are watching you.

caandi:
NFA well done. It’s not a paid advert and it’s not a must, what you do with your body is your choice. I was just giving out my experience and candid advice okay, you’re not obliged to do anything here. It’s a free advice so take it or leave it.

Paid advert...wella wella done on your first vaccine. We are now convinced that it is not 666 because you have taken it and neither is it harmful. Thanks for sharing. However, your health should be your choice and no one should take that away from anybody.

The law on experimental vaccines and treatments require consent for a reason. You don't have any right to call anyone gullible because they do not want to follow you. I'm sure when people are very confident about the treatment, they won't hesitate to get their vaccine. Please keep posting, we will add you to the lab rats under observation here on nairaland.

caandi:
Hello nairalanders;
I’m excited to announce to you all that I’ve been given my first dose Of COVID 19 vaccine. There’s nothing harmful in getting vaccinated. I wonder why a lot of Nigerians are scared of getting vaccinated to the extent of some calling it 666 mark of the beast and so many names. Well it’s not more than one single dose of injections with little or no pain at all. Just like your normal tt (tetanus) injection. Humans can be funny. If you can go ahead and get your child vaccinated against diphtheria, diarrhoea, whooping cough and the rest diseases then why can’t you get vaccinated against a virus that has killed so many.
It’s a pity that many gullible Nigerians think that’s COVID-19 is a scam, and that the government are using it to scam its citizens and collect money from international bodies. Well I’m here to announce to you that this is totally wrong. There’s nothing like that.
Mark my words very soon people won’t be able to go to banks to withdraw in Nigeria if they’ve not been vaccinated and it’s not because it’s the mark of the beasts, no it’s because you’re going to infect others and you pose as a risk to others. My people it doesn’t take anything just go to the nearest health centre closest to you and they will register you online first before being given the dose. Some might continue to doubt and argue in their hearts, I will tell you this once; you registered for NIN right? and BVN right? Why didn’t you consider it as mark of the beast because you also gave them all your details, Including your finger print but this one you will see it clearly that it’s just an injection and nothing more.
I quote, write it down somewhere, with how corrupt our government is, when you finally want to get yours they would start to lobby it with money because of the high demand and some would never get it hence loss of Jobs and being denied access to travel overseas. Hmmm this was how national Id started and now they’re lobbying it. Remember everything in this country some folks would take advantage and use it for their own selfish gain. To be forewarned is to be forearmed. I come in peace. Shalom.

There's really no need to gbam. This message is slightly misleading. Belief in Jesus Christ is not automatic salvation, if not Jesus won't tell his disciples to take up their cross and follow him. Even though Christ died on the cross for our sins, we all have a cross to bear.

Believe me or not, there are books for you and I. Apart from the book of life. There is also the book of deeds which lays out every thing we have done on this earth. We will be judged for each and every action.

I won't say that I believe any vision of men in hell but sure people have that every now and then. To me, I see it as God calling that individual to repentance and not necessarily meaning whoever it is they saw is burning in hell. A saved person should be conscious of his deeds. Even though we are not infallible, we will certainly sin. However, we should always remember to truly repent and avoid repeating such sins deliberately.

jiggaz:
Nooo

What part of Nigeria are you?

ursullalinda:
I pray God will open the eyes of those shouting scam to see that Covid is real and people don't admit it when it kills their own.......in as much as our genes are fighting it.......we shouldn't be careless about the whole thing......Covid is real .......please protect your family especially your aged parents

You obviously don't know what was injected inside you. P.S this vaccine is a new technology and does not contain a less harmful version of the virus. In fact it has nothing in it relating to SARS covid. Instead it contains mRNA technology which will help your body produce more proteins and according to them antibodies to fight the severity of the virus. It is a new technology that has never been used before and there is no precedent. So basically, they are only going to be learning from you as per lab rat.

bepositive11:
My friend, if you don't want the vaccine, don't take it

Covid symptoms can be life threatening. The purpose of the vaccine is to expose your body to a less harmful version of the virus so that your body can build defense mechanisms against it -- antibodies

As an example, someone who takes the vaccine will experience mild headaches and slight fever if they should get covid. On the other hand, someone who doesn't take the vaccine will experience severe headaches, high fever for longer days, fatigue, and so on

BTW, panadol doesn't improve most covid symptoms. For example, pneumonia. Panadol has no impact on pneumonia

At the end of the day, the main goal of the vaccine is to minimize deaths. If you don't want the vaccine, don't take it

Why is your blood hot? Be calming down. You say its not the MOB while others believe it is. They believe what they believe and you believe what you believe. Drugs should not be forced on anyone. Before covid we had JW who refused blood transmission, we still have some churches who don't go to hospital. We have traditionalists who stick to herbal treatment. Did the world come to an end.

If you want people to gain trust in your vaccine, give it the test of time. Forcing people will only draw more resistance. If it is so effective and life saving, you won't be spending energy trying to convince people. Last I checked nobody wants to die but at the same time nobody wants to be the first to be a lab rat.

The vaccine will still be produced in the next 10 years at least you people said covid is here to stay. Those that will die will die, those who will survive will survive. People get hit by the bus everyday, drown in the ocean and even die from their sleep. Life goes on.

You have taken the vaccine, kudos. You can even go ahead with your booster shots (clapping for you). Its your choice and please don't impose it on others. Thank you.

Truth friend...Jesus even took the most condemned donkey, the one that nobody will even agree to use. He borrowed boats, he slept in people's homes, he never owned any property. Yet, these ones want us to believe that something else.

AntiChristian:
Where is Jesus in your list? Jesus "borrowed" donkey to ride to fulfil a Prophecy. Why didn't God grant him the best carriage of his time?

What was the occupation of these people you mentioned? Were they temple priests or temple owners? Did they gain their wealth from the poor masses? Or do we have to remind you of Eli, Elijah, Elisha,Isaiah, Jeremiah and a notable example of several full time Priests in the Bible?

Stop defending nonsense because you are sheeple. There is nothing wrong in being wealthy if you work for your wealth. However, it becomes a problem when the money doesn't belong to you. The money in church should be used for charity, to feed the poor and not for the pastor. Your pastor is a business man.

Kayberg:
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, David, Solomon, Daniel were all wealthy men of GOD.
GOD transformed the life of Jabez.
GOD transformed the life of Obed'Edom.
GOD transformed the life of the poor widow Elijah went to for food.

Imagine if Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, Job, David, Solomon, Daniel were in this generation, imagine what they would have had in possession. It was recorded that, Solomon's wealth in gold alone is worth over a trillion dollars.

So, GOD is not against you as a Christian being wealthy, what GOD doesn't want is you forgetting GOD after you become wealthy. Because that seem to be the main problem of men today.

Again, like I said, its our choice...now move on. If you have a problem with the second coming of Jesus Christ, then why are you talking about it? Okay let me allay your fears. Jesus loves you too and its up to you to choose if you want to be in the presence of God.

Temigrey112:
Coming from the same people that go about with speakers making noise and demonizing other peoples belief. If your religion demonizes others for not believing in it then its against humanity. Yall are nothing but plebs of the society ready to be used to make the next pastor rich. Its been 2000+ years. Jesus isnt coming get over it and make something out of your lives and stop making africans look dumb.

Kudos keep the energy up until you are shocked. Anyway its our believe not yours. You're free to believe there is no heaven, hell, after life ..... You also can't tell us what to believe. It's a free world, and there are so many choices to make.

Enjoy your Sunday to the fullest and please don't let the second coming of Jesus Christ bother you, he's coming for his followers, so I don't think that concerns you... like really it doesn't.


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@Joey150.....my search for purgatory brought me to this thread today. Thank you for creating it and I am happy I stumbled across it. I used to be indifferent about the concept of purgatory, Sheol and other spiritual realms. Most people don't understand that the bible is a compilation of events in the past. Some scriptures are still being discovered and yet there is still so much we don't know.

I worry that we may not have anything to write because our generation is so divided and the Christian religion has lost most of its original messages. People now only pick parts that they feel comfortable with. I don't think its going to be easy explaining to anyone about the reality of purgatory.

Back to why I searched for this thread and I hope this helps whoever that will need it in the nearest future looking for answers.

I didn't really concern myself with the thought of hell or heaven. However, I released that I was seeing either people who were about dying or had died, I could see accidents before they happen, victims of very disturbing murder. I didn't understand why I was seeing all of these but I learnt later on that I just needed to pray for them. The message became clearer when one day I was taken to a place, it was not a good place at all but I realized later when I woke up, that it was Sheol. In that place, you could tell they were lost souls, the place was in chaos. It was a very unhappy place with really wicked people. I saw lesbians, murderers, and so many things that will take long to explain. I also saw that in that place there was a book with names. (Apparently as there is a Book of Life, there is also the Book of the Dead. There are many books, Book of Deeds, that will be another topic I'm too lazy to begin arguing on nairaland).

Anyway, I remember wanting to leave that place, I didn't want to be there. I asked for a way out but nobody seemed to care. I saw a lot things there but when I woke up I started searching for answers. It was the place where all the really bad people go to. And I don't mean if you tell a small lie or some lesser sin, it was like for really bad sins. That place also had different levels, there was a part that I got to that was very hot with lots of people, you could tell the furnace was close, it was darker but I didn't go nearer to find out, luckily I was pulled out.

What brought me to the purgatory issue. Well I was taken to another place at another time. It was different from Sheol, I saw a close family in this very dark place. Luckily no one saw me, he didn't see me but I could tell he was suffering. How? I can't say then I asked whoever was with me, if the person could recognise me but then I saw he couldn't see me. The person looked like the younger version of himself unlike when he died. I couldn't have known what he was like when he was young because I wasn't born then, but I recognized him. He had died over 13 years ago. So I decided that I would find out about purgatory and how to pray for people to get mercy. So I will implore you to pray for your loved ones and those that have passed away. Whether you believe or not, what if I'm not crazy, what if its real, at least nobody is asking you to do a bad thing. Prayers have always been good and praying for people shows love and how much you cared for them when they were alive. You can't argue purgatory away, just like you can't argue the earth away or the sun or moon. The fact that you don't see the place or there is no road to it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

That was what brought me to search for purgatory. There are apparently many levels of hell, Sheol, purgatory, etc. The old testament mentions these places but for some reason the Christian church today disregard it. It isn't spoken about because they tell people that when someone dies, they are sleeping until Jesus comes and judgment. We really don't understand what happens outside our existence and when people try to explain it, nobody wants to listen. They will call it false doctrine and ignore it until when they find themselves there. I saw these places and many more, and I will implore Christians to open the eyes of their heart, seek the Holy Spirit and ask these real questions to the Lord Jesus Christ so they can understand.

Purgatory is real, you can argue it out of nairaland but you can not argue its existence. They say knowledge is power, it is better you seek knowledge from God because there are so many things he will reveal to us. You can't keep a closed mind and claim to serve God. God is spirit and we must worship Him in truth and in spirit. We shouldn't be fighting with each other but learning and growing in faith. There are many mysteries we don't know and I pray that God helps us understand better.

What makes you think he wasn't doing someone's dirty work for them. Last I checked he's an errand boy

nairavsdollars:
Osinbajo who sacked DSS boss, Daura who was appointed by Buhari. You think he doesn't have balls?

This is what I'll tell you and there is really no other way to explain it. Even if you dissect the scriptures trying to defend the fact that the end of the world phenomena doesn't exist, it would be pointless.

What I do is when I have a question about the world, how things work or whatever is beyond my human understanding I simply ask God. Unless you have a personal experience, you can't really grasp a lot from the bible.

Remember that we are talking about a living word, God's word coming to life. I don't know how you get your answers but I think you should try seeking them.

There is so much going on that we don't understand, we see things with our human eyes forgetting that a part of us is spirit and the other flesh. The world is not as you view it, and there are many things at play. The concept of the end of the world is not only known to Christians, if you find out what is at play, you would see that practically everyone even scientists will tell you that the end is nearing its end.

But again, I can't convince you, I'll only ask that you consult with the number teacher, the Holy Spirit to give you answers to this question.

paxonel:
it's another conspiracy theory, there is nothing like THE ANTICHRIST.
Antichrist isn't like one person like thaaat!!
Anybody can be Antichrist

Stop deceiving yourself... there is nothing like an atheist. Humans naturally have a believe system, so far you can logically believe something to be right or wrong, good art and bad art, then there is obviously something you hold a strong faith to, it could be science, art, spirituality, seeing yourself as a god or whatever it is.

The point is you certainly have one religion but are in denial of it. You guys come in different ways with twisted threads but it ends up being the same thing. Nobody hates atheists, atheists simply hate themselves.

Abetterperson:
For some reason a lot of Nigerians don't understand that everyone is not supposed to believe in every thing there do
I'm a Christian but I respect their decision, it's their life and if there are really sinning against God, let him judge them not Nigerians.
Most atheist I have met are very nice and take full responsibility for their actions, best of all they are not hypocrites
Am being serious, most Nigeria religious people I have met are so hypocritical , being gay is a sin but being corrupt is just a small sin that God will understand.

Please just let people live their lives

Sorry if I lashed out.... I did probably because I read somewhere that Emperor Nero was the supposed anti-christ.


I may not be able to direct you to specific bible references but they will be easy to locate. First of all remember that time to God is infinite, so it is presumed that we cannot know the exact occurrence but there are clues.

The book of revelation is divided into three prophecies, the past, the present and the future.

John saw a vision of what had already transpired when the devil tried to prevent the birth of the Messiah. If you remember the part of the dragon chasing the woman with child. The child was Jesus. Also in the breaking of the seal, The slain lamb of God, the sacrifice Jesus made and that he completed his assignment on earth, hence the rejoicing in heaven that the seal could be broken by him alone. This meant he succeeded in bringing the light and truth to men on earth. That was also symbolic. The success of Jesus Christ mission on earth ushered the new era.

The time leading to judgement.... remember, this also coincides with the vision of Daniel and Ezekiel. There are similarities on what they saw. Now for the persecution of the Christians, John saw the fate of the followers of Christ to be killed. If you read the prophecy in Esdras, you all see a connection.

John also saw the happenings in their time with the persecution of Christians. He saw the killed martyrs asking for vengeance. But remember the reply he was given, that more were going to be killed and until the last martyr, judgement will not come. John saw the saints numbering thousands of thousands remember, wearing white and given a name on their foreheads only known by God. This had already happened is still happening, they are the saints that have died and go to heaven.

Also, remember the seals were being opened gradually with specific judgements. The time between each seal was not mentioned, but they will all be opened before the last seal. We have seen most of them from famine, draught, wars, natural disasters, pestilence and pandemics, global warming, pollution of sea life and many others.

The final seal, is the complete end. However, the book of revelation also mentions in chapter 13, the reign of the devil. It speaks of a 7 headed beast that comes out from the sea bearing blasphemous names. I usually refer to them as the 7 deadly sins but they are really not. It was said the beast got its power from the ancient dragon or serpent, devil. What I see are the rulers of 7 powerful nations possessed by this beast ( please watch Britannia TV series for a better understanding of how this possession works, that series is on point)

The 7 heads represent sodomy, killings, lust, deception, etc you can name all forbidden things, that will turn the hearts of man from God. They will bring destruction on the earth, causing unrest and crisis, wars, diseases and so many things. People will need help and will be afraid, they will look for salvation. This talks of our time or a time in John's future. Remember as at the time of John, the Emperor was the highest authority on earth, many nations were yet to be discovered.



(P.S. from this point, this is my own speculation combined with very critical thinking and probabilities. This part is yet to unfold)

We have world powers now, and they are more than three if you know you know. The dragon by the shore will transform itself in a man, or will have his spirit in a man ( that I am not sure of but I know the devil does not share is glory, he is known after all as the proud one). He will be the antichrist, promising a false sense of peace but many people will resist him. I still say today, that the signs he will show will not be spiritual but with innovations, Technology, many people don't care about blind people seeing or lame people walking. They want to see technology at its fullest. He will obviously fake his death or will supposed be killed. But I believe he will be brought back in some form of artificial intelligence, where people will think his conciousness will be plugged in like he is still alive. This way, he will have access to computer systems, control finances, and most importantly make policies that affect those who resist him. It is the resurrected beast or antichrist that supposedly gives the mark of the beast (P.S emperor Nero is dead and gone, he never resurrected or escaped death and he did not control the world, Africa was still very undiscovered as well as America was non-existent).

I believe the rapture comes after the tribulation though. Sorry I didn't plan to go this long, but I wanted you to see that the past, present and future are connected. Jesus says somewhere in Matthew 24 not sure of the numbers, but he says the signs of the end and he also makes it clear that the children of God will see the signs and know. When breaking down the book of revelation, it is also good you connect the dots with the old testament prophecies of Daniel and Ezekiel, the past and the present are connected.


Also Not forgetting, Christianity is just a branch of Judaism, remember Jesus also practiced the same religion and studied it. Christianity only refers to followers of Christ, the new covenant. The Israelites have always and will always be bound by the old covenant and new too. But Christ brought salvation to the gentiles and the whole world.

The persecution of Christians by Jews was not strange. People found it difficult to accept change and for that they kill and destroy. Remember the workings of the devil were at play, so all of it was going to happen, judiasm itself was not the problem, it was the heart of man that was. Many of them were not following God as Jesus said to their Pharisees time and time again. Remember when he said, they knew they would not enter salvation and were blocking the way for others to come in. The persecution of Christians still happen today and not even by people who practice judiasm.

paxonel:
no one alive that does not have his personal philosophy so there is nothing wrong having philosophy
may be you will find it hard to agree with this scripture
Revelation 4:1 ..and I will shew thee things which must be HEREAFTER.

Take note of the word HEREAFTER, what does it mean to you?
To me, it means something that will happen now now.
That means it happened 2000 years ago with John who lived 2000 years ago seeing it happening now now.
do you notice i quoted accounts from the bible, what do you say to that?

Yet again another philosophy.

According to you John's prophecy was all about what will happen during their time and according to you it was Judaism that was supposedly the religion that persecuted Christians.

Please go and do a very realistic research on religion. In fact, you don't need to go far. There are many documentaries and archeological research works, that will give you a deeper understanding of what happened in the past. What Judiasm is about and their role in history. Until then this your presumption is � % wrong and very misleading. Thank you.

paxonel:
Whatever that religion was, the bible did not specifically mention.
It is obvious that whatever that religion was, it was a dominant religion of that time that persecuted Christians who were very few in number, hence the book of revelation which was also written 2000 years ago by John the beloved figuratively described the religion as a beast having a number 666.
Hence any Christian who by any means of persecution at that time, denounce Christianity has accepted the mark 666 and by so doing has lost his salvation if one should understand the point of these whole thing.

One could reason that the religion could possibly be Judaism afterall, the leaders of Judaism(the Pharisees) endorsed that Jesus Christ should be crucified. They also persecute Christians after the resurrection of Christ and spear headed the killing of many disciples including Peter, Paul and Banabas therefore they were the ANTICHRISTS, no other Antichrist.
Yes, we know that anyone fighting against Christianity today is also Antichrist, but how many of them still kill Christians till this moment?
so, Christianity will always flourish than any other religion according to Jesus prophecy. Matthew 13:31-32

Are today Christians expecting mark of the beast or 666 in the future simply because they saw all these in the bible?

See, you can't read the bible and start throwing yourself into unnecessary fear or fright of the unknown future what kinda mumu life are you living like that?
whatever we read today were things of the past documented in the bible.
Whatever happens in the future will depend on what we do today.

Think and understand

Aboki brain that's not how to attract foreign direct investment. You don't threaten or coerce people to do business in your country. You make your country a business enabling environment so investments can come.

I wonder if State's decide to take over their resources where you people will run to. Quota system is not real education, please pick up a book and learn.

FreeStuffsNG:
They will come and register with CAC, get NCC licence , have a physical office in Nigeria, hire our teeming youths who are ready to work and pay tax to Nigeria las las.

The era of where they repatriate 100% of their ad revenue in Nigeria as forex back to their country and pass on the tax bill to Nigerian businesses to pay FG is over.

Nigerian Corporates that pay millions of USD for ads like our banks etc don't do VPN. So no ad revenue for them until the suspension is lifted.

Their 'lose' (pun intended) in ad revenue is the gain of other social media platforms including platforms like Nairaland.

"All the enemies of Nigeria will lose las las. They always lose. God bless Nigeria "
FreeStuffsNG

Hmmm...all of this emotions because the South wants its VAT? If you perceive me as your enemy and a hellbound creature, why share a country with me?

You should use all of this energy to push for a separation from your jobless, metal deranged sick hellbound enemies. You can't force a broken relationship. You don't own the South and you just proved that you are a bandit.

Ibkhaleel001:
Please dont be deaf dumb and blind like the rest of your folks.... criticize with fact!

You are clearly jobless and brainless, your life revolves around fake news and propaganda of Nairaland and in Your madness is incurable your obsession with my name is laughable, wawa mentally deranged sick hellbound creature.

You took your time to analyse the dynamics of the market and yet failed to see the role technology will play in enabling all this sectors grow. If you can skip just this basic fact that itself destroys all your false calculations and it shows explicitly how Nigeria will be in big trouble in the next 100 years following your analysis.

If you fail to realize the potential of technology in just the nearest five years time and see how every industry will rely hugely on it, then I'm sorry to say fella, you are way behind the clock.

Ibkhaleel001:
The sectors that will contribute most to the GDP and create the most jobs and wealth to the Nigerian economy in the next 20, 30, 50 and 100 years are manufacturing, agriculture/food processing, construction/real estate, financial services. Tech won't be in the top 60 to 70%.
I took my time to study the dynamics of our socio-economic construct. Tech will remain what it is. An enabler. Much of the legacy systems and platforms have already been built. The United States leads the pack in the technology economy. Specifically Software, Internet and Media. Followed closely by China, who also leads the pack in hardware technology. The wealth creation indices speaks to their technological foundation. India has done well with developing human resource to service the top developed tech economies and ecosystems.
America is the only country where the wealthiest are from the tech industry (software, internet, media and hardware).
In China, according to the top 30 wealthiest ranking of 2021, only 33% are from tech. The remaining 66% are from Food, Pharmaceuticals, real estate, manufacturing.
Europe's biggest companies are in the fashion industry. They play big in infrastructure, automobile, retail, beverage and snacks. The biggest tech export out of Europe is SAP. A company that started in the 70s.
In India, the wealth of the richest comes from Pharmaceuticals (Drug and Vaccine manufacturing), Banking, Manufacturing (Cement and metal), Retail, Telecoms, Manufacturing, financial services and tech. Of course, tech is represented by HCL, which is one of the largest software services exporters in the world with presence I. Over 45 countries.
The sizes of wealth created by each industries is one of the easiest pointers to where the most economic opportunities can be developed.
Africa will miss it if it gets fixated and obsessed with technology to the detriment of the sizes of opportunities that other sectors represents, especially their relevance to our unique socio-economic construct.
We should pay more attention to areas of advantages that hold true economic potentials to create wealth and jobs beyond the hype.

All this because South wants its Vat. Why not seek disintegration if the relationship is uncomfortable

Ibkhaleel001:
LET US VOMIT OUT THE SOUTHERN HOOK, LINE AND SINKER


Northern Nigeria has more graduates and Professors than South Africa. The real problem is not as Southerners paint it and you echo it like empty halls. 


Practically, millions of Northerners are either unemployed, misemployed, or underemployed. Our problem is our chances are blocked and our resources dominated by Southerners who paint the wrong picture for fools to believe them.


75% of  government spending is connered by Southerners via the domination of salary earning, contracts, projects, bail outs and other interventions. Trade and industries are dominated by Southerners who have easy access to multi billion credit facilities courtesy their domination of state financial structure and instruments and institutions. 


Every ministry is dominated by them. All our markets are monopolized by them due to their control of capital that enable them to finance business and take more risk due to ease of acces to money. They conrol their markets by regular disruptuons of our businesses officially and by direct frequent violence unofficially. Their control of and easy access to liquidity enable them to be more enerprising business wise. They buy our goods cheap and sell theirs exorbitantly.


To preserve the exploitative status quo they spread false verson of the reality. They centralize oil as the main source of wealth so that our attention will be far away from other sources of wealth they dominate.

Oil is less than 10% of  Nigeria's GDP. They tell us we are the parasite and we are lazy and we are uneducated to instil a sense of guilt, self hate and inadequacy in us. We swallow all these falsehood uncritcally because we made our source of daily information their media and books. They over concentrate on our weaknesses and ignore almost completely their own weaknesses. An average Southerner having mild cold will almost by default blame it on Northerners and will not lack northerners who "speak the truth" to agree with him.


How can uneducated people have multitude of unemployed graduates? How can lazy people be producig the food of the nation? Why do millions of Southerners troop to the poor parasitic North and refuse leave? The south said so and it is?


What we need is a  political economic solution. We must take control of our local markets, our institutions and our businesses in their land must be given due attention and protection and any act of disruption by way of constant destruction must be paid back in due measure without listening to their victimship outcries. They fear separation more than us because their weak economic foundation, especially the west entirely dependent on controlling  government resources.


We must ask and take our fair share of every government employment at whatever cost. No people has ever prospered when their resources, oppurtunities and chances are blocked and dominated by others.  Our constant preachment of peace must stop: justice and and equity must be our new slagon. 


The real problem is believing in the propaganda of the enemies which saps our resourcefulness and infuse our senses with feelings of backwardness that really do not exist, or are caused by false perception. The greatest defeat one can suffer is to see oneself as projected by one's enemies. 


Almajiri is system suffocated by lack of finance. Poverty is a direct result of economic domination and exclusion. Degrees are not unavailable. Marrying four wives will not stop as it is never a problem but a great social system. Once we assert control on what is rightly ours, that self concious timidity will evaporate and be replaced by confidence and bold enterprise. Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.


Try asking for propotionate representation in all government employment in all institutions and at all levels, they will cry out about mediocrity supplanting merit as if those half literates southerners dominating the place are Einstein incanates. Or they will blackmail you with Islamization.


Try treating their traders in our markets as they treat ours and they will cry xenophobia as if the regular denial of market space, heavy taxation, constant disruption of business and officially sanctioned harrassment of our traders in their land does not exist.


Try replacing Southern union leaders and foreign sponsored NGOs operating in the North with our own people and they will start wailing about marginalization.


Well, their era of dominance and false propaganda is coming to an end with the coming of age of young northerners who could no longer accept marginalization because of blackmail or threat. These new bold Northern youth have seen how southerners cowered when asked to leave the North two years ago. Their cries for secession are empty ruse. 


We will be better off without them and they will definitely be worse off without us. They know we lack nothing, while their millions selling substandard, fake good, drugs and inrdinately high interest bank loans fleecing the north and feeding on cheap food and services will have nothing on returning back home. Their franchise firms and industries will lose over 100 million costumers overnight which is more than their home market demand. 


Soon we will ask for equity or call it quit. We know who we are and we know our strength.

Accelerationism is precisely the accelerationism policy of the United States, which led to the collapse of the image of the U.S. fiscal guardian and turned it into a nasty country, so that the European Union, Africa, and Canada all accused the remedy of being a divided president.

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Me: What the f.... are you talking about?

lnaberuiogue:
＃加速主义恰恰是美国的加速主义政策，导致美国财政卫士形象崩塌，变成了讨厌的一个国家，以至于欧盟，非洲，加拿大都指责弥补是一个分裂的总统。

Saga, Peace, Emmanuel, Tega, and Michael.... three or two from this list.

It's simple, you didn't happen to fall on earth by chance.

Let me illustrate better. When you're born, you have a father and a mother. If you were raised by your father, you understand that when you do wrong he can be very cross with you. You get punished for not obeying house rules. You serve punishment until well you're sorry and you don't do it again.

Now your creator is your father, he has rules or laws we follow. Well when you don't do them, you get punished. Now, why hell?

Knowing God or accepting him has nothing to do with words but actions. When you obey his laws, or commandments, that is accepting him. What does he not like, he doesn't like sin and better yet, he still compassionate because he forgives. Forgiving doesn't mean you can go right ahead and do it again.

Let me ask you a question? You hear the news everyday, that people are killed, babies are raped, ritualists and human havestors are on the loose. If you had the chance to decide their fate, would you take them to an everlasting paradise? Or give them a first class treatment?

How do you feel when you hear government has pardoned murders? Or you see an armed robber walking freely on the streets? So tell me, don't you think God knows who deserves to be in heaven and hell?

We Christians only speculate, but we really don't even know our fate. The bible says God is a Just God, and even Jesus says not everyone who calls him or cast devils in his name will make heaven. So I hope this answers your question.

The best way you can play your part, whether you believe heaven and hell is real or not, is to do the right thing, live right, love your neighbors and most importantly ask for forgiveness when you have done wrong. What happens after that is not within your control. You can't control your birth, neither can you control your death and certainly can you not even control your afterlife.

indadi:
So why go to hell if you don't want him??

There is God and he reveals himself to those who seek him. Seek and ye shall find, knock and the door will be open.

@AntiChristian is a Christian in disguise. You study the word of God more than some pastors and even preach on nairaland more than the pastors here.

Anyway have a wonderful week and know that Jesus loves you too.

That's not what I'm saying. I was talking to Max who says the rest of us who go to church are not Christians. According to him, only Jehovah Witnesses are the true worshippers of God.

I'm trying to let him know, that we may all have different denominations, but we are reading the same Bible and have the same faith in one God.

It doesn't matter what church we attend, we should agree as Christians. The fight that one church is better than the other, is like a house fighting against itself. P.S my origin is Anglican.

Hismasterpiece:
So you're saying Anglicans, pentecostals, baptists, etc are not true Christians?

You make a 100k daily and you're asking someone to click? Yeah right.

alabiexperto2:
Click to learn https://link-to.net/175101/E4321Gk

My point exactly..we certainly don't worship the same God.

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry my own God is JEHOVAH and His people are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, if you're not one of us then you can never be a worshiper of our own God!