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This mentality is what they call ignorance. Why do people kill? Why do governments and and the rich elite want to control population. You don't know what they intend to profit from it because you are not in their circle. It looks unreasonable to you because you have a conscience, you care but those who want to end the population crisis don't think like you.

So they make you think its conspiracy theorists at work..but before conspiracy theories begin, there has to be something that gives rise to the conspiracy in the first.

paxonel:
why will you think the CEO of Pfizer want to give people poison, what is his gain when people die of poison, it will give him promotion and increase his salary or what?

Its no longer fake news..its now misinformation. Hmmm

If you're paralyzed or dead, you won't be useful to them either. Besides the vaccine doesn't end at two doses. You will be required to take it every 6 months.. If you fail to..your COVID card will expire. So what's the point?

Deborah98:
But without it we won't work. Now civil servants don't know their fate now as they've been mandated to take it or kiss their jobs goodbye. The whole thing is tiring and at same time confusing

This is looking like a planned pattern. Every country says basically the same thing now. They started with fake news and now is disinformation. Well every country claimed to have seen the Omicron variant and now all are claiming they saw it before South Africa. I don't know about you but the world governments are up to something and it has nothing good in store for us.

@antichristian....my Christian friend in disguise. I hope you know that the scripture you quoted is very robust with hidden truths. Funny enough this came up just last week when I was having a conversation with my mom about it. I said that when you read that scripture literally, it makes no sense. However, when you look deeper and take yourself into the era of the bible, you begin to understand certain truths.

I always say that the Bible is a living word. When you read it, you are taking a look into history so I much prefer to relive the event. I imagine myself in the picture with those people especially during the early times of the world and see things through their eyes.

Now to the issue. Imagine I have a plan to go right up to heaven today and luckily we all speak the same language at least we have a population that can get the work started in English. However, if I build, I can only get to a certain height before I defy the laws of gravity. So since I know now that when I delve upwards, I will be met with beautiful space, I know for certain that I would lose oxygen when I get to a certain height...well that plan won't work. So that takes me to the time of Babylon. These people were not stupid, they knew about astrology, they knew about the constellations, the solar system or luminaries.

Which takes me to another thought. They certainly were not just going to be working with bricks. If you remember at that age which still keeps us within the book of Genesis.. there were fallen angels on the earth, their where beings of higher intelligence which we refer to in our time as aliens. So it means this was a time of enlightenment and certainly a time when people knew secrets about this world.

So it again took me to another thought...if the author of this account knew exactly how they intended to go about their plan apart from the part of bricks... don't you think we would have put the pieces together and continued where they failed? What if they were building a portal to connect the earth realm with heaven. That's the only logical way they could go about their mission. Besides, God has no reason to be afraid of us getting to heaven. The only thing is nothing impure goes there...so he had the power to prevent it and well that's what happened.

Now the logical event of what happened will remain unknown because obviously there are ways to connect to heaven and man knew this before the confusion was put to distract them.

Anyway that's my explanation of what happened.... I don't think it's a lie and if you will be honest, scientists are still looking for a way to get past the sun so they can connect with aliens and if they're lucky make a stop at heaven but they won't say that out loud.

Has there been any change in your food? Do you eat out... sometimes it could be a change of ingredient in the food you eat. Bad groundnut oil can cause it too and some other type of food allergy.

I'll suggest you take two weeks to observe your diet... Anything you ate in the last week's before you started noticing the boil pimples. Infact when you eat whatever is causing it, you will see a new growth come on top of the pimples there.

Meanwhile, get antibiotics to flush out whatever is in and then do the meal checking. I suggest you avoid eating out most of these food vendors, they use the worst of the worst ingredients so far its cheap.

Shagbatshagba:
For sometime now I have this maybe pimples combined with boil I don't just know on the right side of my face
Pls help a brother what can be done and who can u recommend me to

Stop misleading people. Even atheists know that the end of the world is imminent. Why else will people be screaming climate change and looking for planets that support human life.

Stop misleading people. Your belief shouldn't be colored or painted to make people like it. No matter how you try to butter it, those who will choose not to follow will still stay far away. That's why its called a choice.

If they know the hard truth, its their choice to either go with it toss it away. If the bible says the world would end and there will be judgement. That's the truth and there is no reason to butter it. There are thousands of people who are surrendering to God and they don't do it through deceit. They know what they are getting into and they are not scared. The truth is not meant to scare you but prepare you.

freshkpomo:
You are the ones misleading people, do you think the gospel has gotten to Every part of the earth ? Why say things you don't know confidently? Are you aware of an island I think in India that is been protected from external influence, the last missionaries that went there did not live to tell the story.


Everything happening today did it begin today? Stop scaring people with end time always, show them what Christianity is all about.

Why are you misleading people... this is what verse 14 says:

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24:14 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.24.14.KJV

freshkpomo:

Let me begin by quoting this scripture and saying it is wrong thing to do by scaring people with hell and the end of the world as a means to make them convert.

Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines..........


If any man comes to you telling you that God told him he is ending the world or he died and wake-up and God gave him the date for the end of the world, or he saw one old woman who told him the world is ending in two weeks time and the person disappeared after telling him the message, just kindly walk out of such a person to avoid them corrupting your life with lies . If Jesus the son of God does not know the hour or time the world will end, is it an angel or a mere human that will now know when the world will end? If you really want to wins souls which is a commandment for all Christian, then you should show Christian virtues.

Jesus gave two commandments;

1. You should love God (This encompasses all 10 commandments because anyone who loves God will not disobey him by doing the things he hates).
2. Love you neighbor same way you love yourself (This also encompass most of the commandments). If you love your neighbor you will not kill them, lie against them, sleep with their wives or steal from them. This means you will always do unto others what you wish for them to do unto you.

Professor I'm sorry you have been duped....if this is what you were told about the vaccine. Past vaccines worked exactly as you described but this modern experiment has sensible people exercising restraint.


Let me break it down for you.... this is not a vaccine, I repeat it is not a vaccine. Look it up and you will see. mRNA is a gene therapy and it has side effects that are life threatening. Many who have had it have suffered blood clots, heart attacks, nervous disorders and even died from it.

Worse part is that it does not give your body any antibodies..the drug claims to send a message to your body to make the antibodies... which is what the body naturally does. Now the problem is scientists don't even know where the vaccine goes and what other work it will do apart from the errand it was sent. Also, the vaccine does not prevent you from contacting or transmitting Covid.

It even gets better, you see they also say the vaccine does not have a long term potential...so you have to juice up every 6 months. Imagine yourself living on injection every
6 months.... are you a puppy? Anyway so you know they don't even know the long term side effects.... besides we have a crappy health care system in Nigeria....if you get a heart attack, you will die before the doctor sees you.

GambaOsaka:
Ogbeni …. You are so ignorant of many things , and logic has rather failed you instead.

The God we are talking about have made our bodies such that when a foreign body comes in like bacteria or virus, the body battles them naturally by making antibodies specific for each virus. In the case of Covid 19, as with polio in years before, the time it takes for the virus to cause serious harm is very short , therefore it takes the body longer to make adequate antibodies to fight. Then God gave men wisdom to create VACCINES, which are the same antibodies that the body produces fight the virus.
When a person gets the vaccine, it is like getting more antibodies together with the ones in the body before, so the person have a larger army to fight the virus.

IF YOU STILL CANT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THE VACCINE AFTER THIS SIMPLE ANALOGY, I’M AFRAID YOU CANT UNDERTAND AGAIN.

Even your pastor that told you the vaccine is satanic has gotten it in secret. That’s why he is traveling over the world and you are languishing in ignorance.

You seem very interested in finding the names and addresses of the families of victims. Do you intend to cause them grievous harm? Are you so intent on finding these victims to cover up your crimes? Your intentions are boldly written and it shows you are complicit in this crimes. One day for the thief another for the owner. One day you will be caught and justice will be given to all your victims. We all know that police, SARS and the rest also hide behind nairaland to cover their crimes.

FreeStuffsNG:
v) - The panel was silent on the family members of those reportedly killed, merely insinuating they were afraid to testify. Even goats have owners who will look for them if they do not return home, not to talk of human beings. Where are the family members
of those who were reportedly killed at Lekki Toll Gate? If the panel is recommending compensation for the families, what are their identities and addresses? Who will receive the compensations when no family members have shown up to date?

vi) - How did a man who reported seeing the lifeless body of his brother himself ended up being on the list of the panel's deceased persons?

vii) - How can a Judicial Panel convince anyone that the names of some casualties of the Lekki Toll Gate incident listed as numbers 3 (Jide), 42 (Tola) and 43 (Wisdom) are not fictitious names.


Honestly, I don't have anything against the list and I urge any uniformed officer wrongly accused to sue the panel and saharareporters to demand for justice and damages.

For Saharareporters, they should please help us use their 'investigative' eyes to find out why the Lekkilies EndSars report ended up with fictitious names and help us compile the names of those who inserted falsehoods into the report. I won't mind if Saharareporters can rise above partisanship to help us compile the names of the businesses destroyed, police officers, soldiers and their relatives murdered during the EndSars whose lives matter too.
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You're a very foolish person.. anyway I'm not surprised they pay unintelligent people to defend their narrative. A panel that was aired live and was very transparent for everyone to see. You didn't follow their investigation and now you want to subject a panel with a highly respected Judge to a moot court quack APC trial. How much do they pay you to be foolish.

ba7man:
You can't write a report riddled with unverified reports and expect logical people to swallow it without questions.

The panel must be cross examined to defend their report to show the world how they arrived at their conclusions.

You're a very foolish person.. anyway I'm not surprised they pay unintelligent people to defend their narrative. A panel that was aired live and was very transparent for everyone to see. You didn't follow their investigation and now you want to subject a panel with a highly respected Judge to a moot court quack APC trial. How much do they pay you to be foolish.

ba7man:
You can't write a report riddled with unverified reports and expect logical people to swallow it without questions.

The panel must be cross examined to defend their report to show the world how they arrived at their conclusions.

To all the foolish people who took a failed vaccine. Hope you know that the vaccine plant means they intend to keep pumping you with drugs every 6 months. Also, if you were foolish to think that the vaccine is free because they gave you two freebies... yeah story is about to change.


One wonders why the country will be borrowing for a private pharmaceutical. Who stands to profit? When has the government been interested in saving lives yet kidnapping, terrorism and even police brutality strives. We warned you all, now all the countries are moving in solidarity to ban Christmas and insisting that vaccination must be done before February 2022 and with also the vaccinated been told to get their boosters. Soon the two shots will expire and you who never took malaria drugs in 3 or 5 years, will be taking an experiment every 6 months at your own cost.

No..the topic says how do spirits exist? It means the op doubted their existence...if not it would be "what do spirits look like?"... That's not the same thing.

LordReed:
I didn't ask you to do a video, I said tell me one spell that is guaranteed to bring out a spirit and I'll do the video myself.

The only reason I will describe a ghost to anyone is if someone says they saw weird stuff and I want to confirm it's what I know. Not putting myself in an argument that won't yield any results. It's impossible to believe spirits exist unless you see one yourself. Sceptics like you who are not ready to take any risks finding the truth will only keep ranting...maybe you will find the existence of spirits when you're close to death in your very old age or maybe after the end of your life.

Crystyano:
Wrong!!!


To hell with your charms and spells!!!!!



I want you to know that your inability to determine how spirits exist shows they don't exist.....


At least,
You should be able to determine how they are associated with XYZ if they're associated with anything at all!!!!

Wait..are you scared of zombies or something? A cemetery is the safest place you can be at midnight. So hurry...go find your spirit.

Crystyano:
Why 3 nights at a cemetry??


How is that safe?

Have you tried performing the rituals? Have you even made attempt to search for them. Have you spent three nights at a graveyard or cemetery? What effort have you made to find spirits other than setting up this thread here.

Spirits are not on naira land...but you can find them and tell us your experience. I didn't tell you I'm looking for spirits and I'm not sharing my experience either. It's better you see for yourself.

Crystyano:
You're basically saying spirits exist...

How did you know that the spells work


If spirits actually show up when the rites are performed,
How do they exist or in what form do they show up??

You want me to try charms and spells for you. You're not ready. I can't do the work for you. I'm not looking for spirits.

Crystyano:
It's the fault of those that claim to know spirits exist....


MaxInDHouse uses baseless comparisons....
peggywebbs can't determine the form in which they exist after her rituals....
Dtruthspeaker can't determine what exactly I don't know.....



Don't ask me why spirits don't exist!!!!

I have not said they don't exist...

But if you fail to determine the form in which they exist,
Then it means you are the reason why they don't exist.....

Why would you want me to prove the existence of spirits for you or anyone here on naira land. I believe they exist and I never set up a thread asking someone to show me proof. If you are really and genuinely curious, you should be able to do anything it takes to find out the truth.

If I describe how they look or feel, you still won't believe unless you see with your eyes. Telling me to do a video of one is you trying to play a fast one on me. It goes against the definition of what a spirit is. So stop cracking me up. I suggest you look for proof of spirits yourself. They are not hard to find.

LordReed:
We have asking you how you people can show us spirits exist and you are yet to come up with a solid methodology. Why is it impossible for them to be captured on camera but can affect human beings? You can point me to one such spell that you know will guarantee a spirit will appear and I will perform it on camera.

You see what I don't get is why folks be asking the same questions over and over again. If you want to confirm the existence of spirits, there are a million ways to go about it.

White people will look for haunted houses, they will go to people who practice spiritism. They will even do live feed when they are curious. But you see, naira land folks here will come and say prove there is spirit and I don't know what they expect...do you want us to do a video of a spirit to prove to you they exist?

If you really want to know, like I said, you should be ready to explore the truth yourself. Find spells that conjure spirits, there are many of them online. There are rites and rituals to do this in your home and you will get the answer you're looking for. You can even share the video with your fellow atheists online so they can see with their eyes.

Crystyano:
How do living things without a physical form exist

In fact, how does anything that is not a property of something with a physical form exist when it's not something with a physical form??


As far as I'm concerned,if something exists,then it's either something with a physical form or the property/characteristic of something with a physical form.....


The other time,AOO1 was talking about spirits but he ended up saying nothing or not saying anything at all!!!!

I don't know about the weakness but I'll say if it is a physical thing, attend to your health. Eat right and do normal exercises. If it's a cognitive issue, you can engage your brain with puzzles and also manage your time and sleep right. If it's none of these things pray to God for strength.

CandyOps:
Tbh, the bible is really an uninteresting book to read and the prints are way too tiny. It's okay not to have the ginger to read it as much as before. I've read the Bible cover to cover at least 2wice. So I'm talking from experience[/


[quotee author=Bnaira77 post=107824915]Yes I do, I've been hearing from the Holy Ghost but the issue is that. Whenever I'm told to do somethings, direction where to study the word from or about someone(message) I just get tired unlike before where the energy from the divine is 100, I think I'm just only starting to be disobedient. I'm really connected to the air that is why I said my body and soul is strong. Thanks

Here its is...there are thousands of resources academically and even directly from the Catholic Church that answers this question but yet it is an everyday issue for many.

https://udayton.edu/imri/mary/m/marian-prayer-reasons-why.php

Oglock:
Oh
What was their answer

They've answered the question a million times but I guess you don't listen.

Oglock:
I'm waiting for catholics to tell me the reason why they pray to Mary
I bet they can't answer this question

Hi love your dedication but I don't understand what you mean by practice the teaching. I also don't understand what you mean by my body and soul is strong either. However, what I can relate with is the lack of interest in studying the word of God.

I once was like that but I discovered that you only get that way when you read your Bible like it's a book. If you are going through the process like a routine, then certainly you get bored. However, if you study your Bible like you are trying to find answers then it would pique your interest. For instance, let's say your looking for the position of the Bible on the subject of life after death, or even witchcraft. Thanks to the internet, you can work hand in hand to see what other Christians think about it and you get Bible references. You make notes, you draw your conclusion and even come here on naira land, and see other what others have to say. This way your Bible is not just a book, you begin to discover more things. And if you have the Holy Spirit, you will get more direction on how to study the God's word.

I also think that getting the Holy Spirit is like just the first step...you should also know how to listen to the guidance of the Holy Spirit, nobody can teach you that, not even those pastors. You can only discover it when you pray more often and ask God for direction. I think you will get that conviction in your heart and you will know it.

Bnaira77:
Dear nairalanders happy sunday to you all. The reasons for my subject is about spiritual matters I hope you all will enjoy what I'm about to share with you. Thanks anyways

The scripture says blessed are those who hear the words and do them they are like a wise man who built his house upon the rock Matt 7:24

I'm saying this because I've really been trying to practise the word of the LORD since ive committed my life to the LORD, following the men of God on youtube, teachings like Prophet T.B Joshua, Bishop Oyedepo, Benson Idahosa, E.A Adeboye e.t.c Most especially Prophet T.B Joshua ( R.I.P Man of God)

There is one of his sermon on youtube which says how to be filled with the Holy Ghost. I love this teaching so much that I watch it and practise it over and over again but now I'm tired I mean practising it, why because I was so much in love with the Holy Bible before I started watching the teaching and after I've been practising it, it is like so hard and strange for me to read, study my Bible again.

Tho the teaching really helped me groaning, singing psalms in the spirit, talking to myself in psalms and hymns.practicing it whereby I got my healing via the teaching. I noticed my heart was cleaned that it manifested in the outside. In my chest there are strange things that I had not seen before and at my back there are also strange things that was not there so now my question is am I filled with the Holy Ghost ?

1. My body, spirit and sould is so strong now but I cant sit and study my Bible unlike before
2. I cannot read or study my Bible like I used to after practising the teaching
3. I no longer fall in Love with my Bible like I used to because I've practised this... Am I filled with the Holy Ghost?

I feel exhausted after practising the teaching for the past 3-4 months.

Has anybody gone through this spiritual process or its spiritual boriness or spiritual depression

I feel tired when I'm about to study the word unlike before please help me where I can study the word from Morning till night... na wa oo

I want to go back to that peace

Your opinion is highly prioritized

Foolish government...shey majority of those returning from other countries are vaccinated...what are they afraid of since they claim their vaccine works.

@SimplePlan23...I don't know what you're going through but I don't think blaming God is the answer to your problem. However, here's what I will say, God does not need your worship, in fact he doesn't mandate it. It is written in his word that he can even raise dry bones to worship him if need be. If he lives and thrives by worship, then he can create special beings just doing that alone.

However, worship comes from appreciating your creator. Just as much as you appreciate your parents for bringing you to this world, training you and nurturing you... its the same way children of God worship their Father in heaven. They don't do it because they are forced or coerced or afraid. Anyone doing it out of fear or compulsion doesn't know anything about the nature of God.

Yes people are born with deformities and you can't put that on God. Birth deformities are attributed to natural things apart from genetics, the type of food you eat, the drugs you take can affect the baby. That is why pregnant women are advised to go for pre-natals. Also, its why people check their blood group, and genetic components before getting married. I still say it drugs, food and lifestyle of our ancestors, are part of the things that affect us to today. That's why some people have cancer, diabetes, hypertension and the rest in their genes. So blaming God is practically pointless.

You really got the story of the tower of Babel wrong. If you really understood you will see that it has nothing to do with God being afraid of man. In fact, the story shows how superior God is. Like I said, reconcile with your situation and try your human possible best to get that which you desire. We are in this world to conquer it, we have dominion over everything and we can prevail over challenges. There is nothing we can't do if we put our mind to it. Depending on God for all solutions is a lazy man's attitude to life. There are billions of people around the world, and they don't need magic or some supernatural force to succeed. Many do it all on their own. Sometimes it comes easy, sometimes you cross huddles to get there but you can do it. Shalom

For the next unfortunate superman, I hope this saves lives. Never try to save a bird on a power line.

Please I beg don't go and stone high tension or use wire oh..the bird has a 99.98% chance of flying away alive on its own than you trying to be superman. If high tension drop, it will hit everyone along its path when its bouncing

chatinent:
Why will I want to save a bird on high tension? I didn't even stone the wire, I'll naw use a metal? Isn't that iberiberistic?

I really feel for you and all this confidence you have in a vaccine that has completely failed. If you are really interested in knowing the scientific side to the arguements, they are available but again you want to engage in a failed debate when you already know you have made your mistake. Even experts that have come with detailed and more compelling research have been hushed, while you complain about simplicist approach.

I understand, why you will want to convince yourself that you made the right decision. However, patience is wise, and nobody gains anything from rushing. Unfortunately, the time is short and the vaccine injuries are rising everyday, eventually you will get the overwhelming news. Anyway I will continue with my waiting and only when I see it is safe in the long term will I allow anyone stick anything in me.

PoliteActivist:
Told by WHOM? And to what end??
Once again, simplistic view of a very complex world - the only way conspiracists can avoid facing the fact that what they are saying makes no sense.
USA is not China, China is not Japan, Japan is not Nigeria. For example, in China the govt can impose things. But in, say, USA, things like vaccine mandates are debated, protested, strikes, eventually the more persuasive side wins. There is no mechanism through which any one person or group can arbitrarily impose things on the majority. You can't even impose with soldiers - the people have their own guns! Newspapers, scientists, statisticians, are all of different backgrounds and politics. There is no cohesive "they" that will help Pfizer fool everyone.

I'm not in the position to discuss this, it is not something I have been able to fully comprehend.

PoliteActivist:
Oh, the above, speaking of 666

That's the lie you have been told.. scrutiny. This is the second time in history that vaccine procedures have been boycotted. The first one didn't go well and now we have this. We are the test subjects, there is no scrutiny please find out and you will see the loopholes.

PoliteActivist:
Unbelievable. THAT'S HOW SCIENCE WORKS!!! It is incremental. Just as Pfizer is better than Merck, the next pill will be better. You expect them to right off the bat come up with a pill that is 100% effective with no side effects?!!

Once again, even vaccinated can catch covid. The pill is for TREATMENT!!! The vaccine doesn't treat covid!!!

Also you forget these pills have to go through series of scrutiny and authorizations before they finally make it to the market.

More important than all these, WHY ARE THEY SCRAMBLING TO DEVELOP TREATMENTS FOR COVID IF THEIR AIM IS TO KILL PEOPLE WITH VACCINES??!!

** Why are you not hesitant about other pills and vaccines you take. They are made by exactly the same people. Why is it only Covid you must know exactly what's in it and how??

** They could have depopulated the world with other tons if vaccunes and pills they make. Why do they need covid vaccines??

If you can step aside and clear out your opinion of conspiracy theorists, I think you will also have a chance to look fairly at their arguments. Again nothing in this article claims that the Pfizer pill cures COVID-19. It still says it cuts the severity of the symptoms. Also Pfizer claims it is 89% effective in reducing symptoms..so there is still an 11% chance of death or severe COVID symptoms which is all speculative because, this pill has not reached a wider population. So my guess will leave it at 67% effective. if you go further to study, you will also see that from the studies conducted not all of the subjects responded well to the pill. Although the company says there were minor side effects, it still contradicts itself by saying the pill will have conditions for certain people as not everyone can take it. Its open source information you can confirm online. However, my earlier statement was based on people who are already vaxxed, why will they need a pill to cut symptoms when the vaccine does exactly the same thing.

Apart from 666 conspiracies, there are also medical arguments by professionals that criticize this process. They are of the opinion that the vaccines are rushed without bearing in mind the side effects. There is also the issue of non-disclosure of the components of the vaccine. I personally, am hesitant not because of 666 or the end of the world but because of human error. I believe that we have a responsibility to observe these drugs and study their efficacy. So far they have told us it doesn't prevent COVID and doesn't stop transmission. So the next thing I'm interested is the side effects. Since not even those who have done human trials with both vaccine and pills have not had the benefit of years observation, I have concluded that the whole world has been subjected to a massive experiment which can go two ways. It can be a huge success or a complete disaster. The logic in me says wait, we can't all make the same mistakes.

PoliteActivist:
One thing with conspiracists is that they have to adopt a very simplistic view of the world - that's the only way they can avoid facing the fact that what they are saying makes no sense in our complex world.

You sound like a fairly reasonable person, so please follow me let's examine things honestly and LOGICALLY.

** See below, Pfizer did say the pill is highly effective in TREATING covid. Once someone gets sick it is useless giving them the vaccine but they can be treated with the pill. See the difference?

** More importantly, why would Merck. Pfizer, etc be scrambling to make pills to treat covid when their aim is to kill people with vaccines??

** The world is full of diverse and competing interests, countries, scientists, scholars, PhD students, university professors. They check and cross-check each others' works and claims. They don't have a giantic meeting to kill people!

** There are so many vaccines developed by different sets of scientists, companies, and countries - China, Russia, India, independently developed theirs. And some are still under development - example, the one of Bill Gates. Conspiracists try hard to avoid this fact - they say "the vaccine"!

** Just because something was done a certain way in the past doesn't mean it has to be continued to be done that way. Development of covid vaccines revolutionized the way vaccines will be developed going forward. Like in anything, necessity was the mother of invention. See below, books on the subject. They read like detective novels.

** Countries are opening up again, new pills are being developed, science has just about defeated the pandemic - as it did many others. Yet conspiracists are still saying the same thing they were saying when the tests and vaccines first came out - massive fatalities, 666, apocalypse! Almost as if they live in a different world!