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nuclearboy:
When the night is darkest, dawn is about to break.

Image123:
Other promises include but aren't limited to these;
Revelation 3v10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
1Thessalonians 1v10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1Thessalonians 5v9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.
The rapture is what takes us(believers) out of the way, until the storm be overpast. There are going to be people who will be saved during the period of the great tribulation. They are as saved/elected as any other believer, and will also live eternally with God. But NOW is the period of grace, the easiest time, perhaps the best time to be saved. Now is the time of the gentiles. Christ is coming soon, to pick His church. Let's be prepared by living in holiness, and righteousness. Let's be watchful so as not to be found wanting when Heaven calls.

Image123:
The rapture is the catching up of saints to meet the Lord in the air. It is quite different from the coming of the Lord. The second coming of the Lord is pronounced and well known. The rapture is a MYSTERY. It is not general knowledge.

MyJoe:
Lol
What I'm trying to visualise is Hamas and those hapless Palestinians already castrated by Israeli mortals trying to stand up with their Iranian-made weapons to a Joagbaje-led interstellar battalion wielding heaven-made TAR-21 riffles.

nuclearboy:
@Petres:

You sef fear, ba? Na wonderment.

inedi:
you cant say that because was a man of God speaking the mind of God concerning us not just a greeting to Gaius as you may think, because the says all scripture is given for our learning, etc. in Genesis 39:3 " And his master saw that the Lord was with him, and that the lord made all that he did to prosper in his hand". verse 23 says "and the keeper of the prison looked not to any thing that was under his hand; because the Lord was with him, and that which he did, the Lord made it to prosper" the man Joseph prospered in all he doings, these could only be so because of his inner quality, who is in the inside, his state of being was that of prosperity, that was why it could manifest in his did or resposibility. thank you.

nuclearboy:
Is that the "revelation knowledge" they got? Interesting. So EVERY named/discussed Christian in the New Testament decided they preferred spiritual wealth and so cancelled the physical. All of them. ALL!! BUT when they wrote the NT, what they meant in their discussions about wealth was physical wealth, dominion etc and not the spiritual.

Anyone who hears that and believes should have a whole ward at Yaba left dedicated to them.

nuclearboy:
Please tell us - Jesus, the Apostles and all those Christians - did they not please God? Why then didn't they "prosper" as you insist?

cemehere:
Job 36:11. If they obey and serve him, they shall spend their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasures.

yommyuk:
1 Tim 6 say it all

These people always cause trouble. Their minds are corrupt, and they turned their backs on the truth. To them, a show of godliness is just a way to become wealthy. Yet true godliness with contentment is itself great wealth. After all, we brought nothing with us when we came into the world, and we can't take anything with us when we leave it.

And that is if many who call themselves Christians really understand the true essence of the entity called 'Christian'.


Lately i have begun by asking questions like what does it mean to become a Christian. If Christianity was alabout making all the monies in life, building and living in the best and finest of houses and riding the sleekest of cars, then bill gates et al would have been called 'modern father of christianity'. [size=16pt][color=#990000]I somehow believe these MOGs know what they are doing secretly.[/size]   May God help his church

Enigma:
If only they will not use the title 'Chrstian' and opt for something like 'prosperitian'!

yommyuk:
Sometimes Most of the time people are urged to accept Christ because "he will solve your problems."

eyzhvntsn:
Everyone will be a millionaire, everyone will have business ideas, everyone will live in houses they did not build, the wealth of the wicked is being transferred to the church and on and on it goes.

eyzhvntsn:
Sad that the gospel has been so commercialized, the cross made of no effect. All I say is if what we see is what Jesus went to the cross for, then he sure didn't have to go.

Pastor AIO:
Very true what you posted in OP, but you cannot expect nigerians to really count the cost of christianity before attempting to become christians. 
Please let of properly consider the verse of Luke above and then look at nigeria.  How many unfinished houses do you see all around?  So therefore 9ja people like to start things without due consideration of the cost of the project.  Maybe they start in the hope that a miracle will happen and they'll some how find the money to finish it. 

And if this attitude is spread to everything else that they do then obviously they take up christianity without a full appraisal of what chrisitianity is.  How sad!!

Pastor AIO:
And if this attitude is spread to everything else that they do then obviously they take up christianity without a full appraisal of what chrisitianity is.  How sad!!

InesQor:
God bless you for this, yommyuk

Zikkyy:
    You guys lacked the required level of faith to will the money into existence, thats all.

JeSoul:
These kinds of manipulative tactics aimed at getting people to "give" . . .  I was at a service once, the pastor asked for offering, for people to bring it one by one to the stage, he had the audacity and shamelessness to demand he did not want any offering less than $100.

MyJoe:

This is sad!  

MyJoe:
But what's "offer7"?  

KunleOshob:
^^^
@petres
Don't mind them false testimonies abound in CE, let's see if the claims can be independently verified and confirmed.

aletheia:
^^^Much as I disagree with Joagbaje on what he usually posts: I have to say that there is actually nothing wrong with the OP and I agree with it.

@KunleOshob: I agree with you on it being "no use trying to manipulate it to fit into the prosperity gospel" but. . .

This statement of yours has to be properly contextualized. All scripture is inspired of God and so this includes the OT as well as the NT. What is the Law? Here are Jesus' words:
Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (Matthew 22:36-40)

Has the requirement to love the Lord with all our heart, and with all our soul, and with all our mind; And to love our neighbour as our-self being brought to an end? Certainly not? The law has not passed away. It's requirements are still as valid today as yesterday but the good news is this:
Jesus has kept every single requirement of the law on our behalf.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (Matthew 5:17-18)

KunleOshob:
Unfortunately for you pastor chris and his worshippers, 'the law' being referred to in 1 Joshua has been brought to an end and has no sound basis in christianity. It is no use trying to manipulate it to fit into the prosperity gospel as pastor chris himself is not observing those laws.

LagosShia:
Matthew 7:21 True and False Disciples
   21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of [size=14pt]my Father who is in heaven. [/size]

Joagbaje:
Precisely, or do you want to give it any private interpretation?

Joagbaje:
It's their choice,

Joagbaje:
2 Corinthians 8:9
9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

17 For you say, I am rich , I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.

18 Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may be rich , and white garments to clothe you and to keep the shame of your unclothedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see.

Joagbaje:
Check this out:
Mark 10:29-30
29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Joagbaje:
That wasn't a message in the first place . Some people are prophets ( this one may be fake) a prophet may be anointed only to see and prophesy and work miracles etc. Many prophets can't teach. Such should have a pastor and teacher working with them to balance the brethren. If not he will teach nonsense.except of course he humbles himself to learn.

Mudley313:
korrect. but in this case, its not another mans headache since these fraudsters MOG string along a multitude of mugus people

Mudley313:
dude, you need to fill up on your prescription pills fast. seriously, i'd be seriously concerned about your mental well-being if you seriously believe all that gibberish you just spewed up there

drone99:
I think it also starts with vendors (designer and developers) charging very cheap fees. For example, i once had a meeting with a prospective client and when we got to the money aspect, i gave him my bill and shouted 'SOMEONE SAID HE'LL DO THIS FOR N20,000'.

pc guru:
There are lots of Good Web Designers who are good at graphic i take graphic very serious but the issue is how many client is willing to pay the last client i did a work for couldn't afford a joomla template so i build a replica like it, end of the day am still fighting over my fees,the sad part is he doesn't want to pay and i have his FTP accounts and passwords,just that am a christian with conscience, i wont post his name,

Dual Core:
On one side of the coin, webmasters (or whatever they prefer to be called) think the are selling water (5 naira per gallon).
On the flip side, prospective clients think they are pricing crayfish.

Dual Core:
P.S: This is not a "Nigerian" thing though.