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Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 8:28am On Aug 15, 2014
ugojamali: After reading a lot of posts here I've come to be ashamed of Nigerians. We still have a long way to go. Most of us are educated illiterates. Now the issues. .

Many people say resident doctors are useless but what you do not know is that the residency training is currently the best scheme to make truly professional doctors. Resident doctors can never be compared to their counterpart medical officers in general hospitals and private hospitals. Because they undergo intensive training and their colleagues don't.

The best Nigerian doctors are made through this residency training that is why going to a teaching hospital remains the best option for patients looking for medical care. If you disagree then try ask yourself why private hospitals refer tough cases to teaching hospitals.

Consultants are products of residency training. They in part teach fresh doctors until they become consultants. And let me enlighten you. .. Fresh doctors know nothing. Forget about medical school. Fresh doctors cannot function without retraining and guidance from consultants so if you scrap the residency then consultants will no longer be obligated to teach fresh doctors.

What will Happen will be a systematic system of trial and error diagnoses by many locum doctors thereby crippling our health sector further.

Now let's take a look at some sayings that nurses work more than doctors. That's so funny and silly. While it is true that nurses probably care more for patients but nurses cannot diagnose illnesses. Their job is simply to administer drugs prescribed by doctors and ensure the patient's comfort. While it'st rue that many of them can make successful diagnosis for simple illnesses. .Do You Think they can diagnose cancer, organ failure, heart complications, bone marrow diseases, and other complicated illnesses? They cannot and will never be able to work without the direction of doctors.

I do hope Mr President reverses this decision. Because if he stubbornly sticks to it then this will turn out to be his most unwise decision ever. . Even more unwise than removal of fuel subsidy.

And for those of you who will bash. .I am neither a doctor nor a health practitioner. Just a concerned citizen who will lose faith in Nigerian health care if there are no resident doctors.
we are where we are as a people BECAUSE people like you are very very scarce in Nigeria.
on the contrary most of the citizens in saner societies reason exactly like you.
little wonder we all flock to those places.

UPTH cannot boast of 2 ultrasound machines yet they want doctors to perform miracles. useless citizens!
Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 8:23am On Aug 15, 2014
Nuzo1: I'm only hoping you are not a doctor cos you are a typical example of an agent of death!

First, if the way you cut and joined your opinion is how you prescribe treatment to your patients, then only the good lord knows how many souls you've wasted.

Secondly, your gross disregard and disrespect towards the masses (patient) and the nurses here is also a reflection of how you attend to them in the hospitals.

As much as I understand that doctors have not gotten the best deal in Nigeria as they rightly stated, I also understand that most of you are not worth the time the FG is giving you.
very funny!!
my man, your federal govt is not worth more than a classroom full of kids with downs syndrome.

in civilised societies, their doctors ARE NOT SEEN OR HEARD. they are well taken care of.
in Nigeria,the leaders treat their health care givers like floormats. imagine 5,000 naira a month hazard allowance.

sometimes I just wish the good lord will give us the Sodom and Gomorrah treatment so we can ALL START AFRESH.
Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 8:16am On Aug 15, 2014
Lenzz: Mumu.
In '68, President Ronald Reagan sacked all aviation workers in d country when they got greedy nd where always striking like NMA nd the likes making outrageoous demand each time. That led to d eventual demise of that union
The Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization (PATCO) and was considered as one of the most important events in late twentieth century U.S. labor history.
So now tell me; who's r.etarded blw you nd the President? Who's the imbec.ile?

This is just one of several precedents where elected leaders have taken ' painful but considered steps' to save their administration from perpetual castration from reckless unions with obvious vested political interests.

Next time do your homework before running to come spew trash on an elected President
my friend go and ask about the medical personnel who are currently down with Ebola in Lagos.
the government has abandoned them. let me repeat..... NIGERIA IS NOT WORTH DYING FOR!

.. ...and yes, GEJ is a confirmed dunce. I would take a third of OBJ (0.3) over 2 GEJs anyday. the man is an invalid. take that to the bank.
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 12:59am On Aug 15, 2014
skelewu74: I feel you should see this boy's picture.
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Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 10:22pm On Aug 14, 2014
Leopantro: considering that most of the writers here went to university, have a degree and could see nothing about bathing with salt last week goes to show that Nigerians get what they deserve. there is no point correcting such a group.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin m.oronic people that have no scientific mind at all. the black man does not want to apply science in anything. just give him a solution that appears to have a supernatural foundation and he is happy.

he prefers to remain in the bush holding on to one tree for sustenance.
these nigerians mouthing off on this thread do not care about simple precautions as hand washing. they hear of the miraculous salt and water solution and they quickly hold on to it.
the solution then goes on to kill even more people than the virus they want to fight it with.
"our lives are in Gods hands" is the popular phrase they use when they are at their wits end. these are the nigerians that doctors ARE TRYING TO PROTECT BUT ARE TOO DUMB TO SEE.

when the repercussions come in the future,they ll all run into the waiting hands of our crooked pastors for the final burial..... grin grin grin grin grin

nigeria....great country with grossly dumb people!
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 10:15pm On Aug 14, 2014
logic2014: my problem with una doctors b say una too dey try explain things in a logical manner. these people you are dealing with do not have the capacity to comprehend how medicine works. its not their fault they simply would not undastand. its like speaking chinese to an english man who has never heard a word in chinese. This fight has to be taken to the gutter then they would understand.
i agree... grin grin grin grin grin grin grin. how can this country get better? how can we effect change when the people are too dumb to even know an intelligent leader.

these nigerians CANNOT ask the right questions. how then do they hold their leaders accountablehuh? na wa o!!! grin grin

nigeria can never get better. just look at the reasoning of many of them.
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 9:58pm On Aug 14, 2014
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin dumb nigerians with dumb leaders.

your senators and reps are r.aping you guys in broad day light yet you cant cough. na ontop doctors una wan show strenght.
go to abuja and arrest the main crooks. they steal from you and drive past in their range rovers while you lot prostrate before them.

education-zero
health-zero
security-zero(boko haram is having a field day blowing yall up to smithereens)....killing your soldiers left right and center
infrastructure-zero

more than 200 girls go missing and till date the drunk in abuja and his fat wife have no clue how to handle things.
meanwhile illiterate and hungry nigerians want to kill themselves to return him in 2015.

a senator earns nothing less than 30million a month AND YOU ALL CANT COUGH!

i hope you all will be around when the i.diot at ABUJA sobers up, realises his folly and reverses himself like he usually does.

you lot should better be able to afford to fly out OTHERWISE you are finished!!!! for those who cant,the agbo sellers and fake drug sellers are waiting to knock the final nail in.
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 7:55pm On Aug 14, 2014
dotuna3: I think Mr president decision is as a result of the present pressure he has with the health sector especially with the Ebola virus. I think the doctors also shld help. I don't think with dis out break our doctors shld be on strike at all. I mean for what reason would they go on strike wen they knw hw challenging this Ebola virus is.

The doctors shld just forget this strike issue. Save us of Ebola den we Nigerians we fight for your right for you if Mr president refuse. Is it after the Ebola issue die down den u wanna surface? Indeed u earn no respect and diginity again from we Nigerians. Pls do what is right at the right time.No time to check time
how do you want doctors to fight ebola when the same FG cant protect them. doctors will be comitting suicide if they try to fight the scourge because as i type this,there is no plan on ground.
No protective hazmat suits. no life insurance. no drugs. what has become of the health personel who haver been treating victims in lagos.
if they were adequately equipped,none of them would have gotten infected.

what has your governmemnt done to check movement in and out of the country?

go to MMIA and the other major airports in the country and see if you will find an ebola testing station. sad sad sad sad
Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 7:48pm On Aug 14, 2014
who says GEJ is not working? which other president has created 16,000 jobs in under 24 hourshuh shocked shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin grin grin

The President, Goodluck Jonathan, has ordered the sack of all resident doctors in Nigerian hospitals.

The sack was contained in a directive by Mr. Jonathan to the Federal Ministry of Health to suspend all residency training programme for Nigerian doctors.

The directive was stated in an internal memo dated August 13 and signed by the Permanent Secretary, Federal Ministry of Health, L.N. Awute, to federal hospitals.

Mr. Awute said the president’s directive was given following an appraisal of the challenges facing the health sector.

“Mr. President, Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, GCFR has suspended the Residency Training Programme for Doctors in Nigeria indefinitely for the purposes of appraising the challenges facing the health sector,” Mr. Awute said.

He said the Minister of Health, Onyebuchi Chukwu, has also directed that “letters of termination of residency training” be issued to all affected resident doctors in hospitals immediately.

The memo asked the management of all public hospitals to take necessary measures to restore full medical services in the hospitals, even without the resident doctors.

In what appears to show the reason for government’s action, the permanent secretary said the hospital could employ part time doctors who must be of ‘good behaviour.’

“Note however, this is without prejudice to the employment of Locum Physicians on six (6) months renewable contract tied to productivity and good behaviour,” Mr. Awute said.

Such recruitments must, however, be “be approved by Mr. President through the Honourable Minister of Health.”

Doctors react

In his reaction, the President, National Association of Resident Doctors, NARD, Jubril Abdullahi, told PREMIUM TIMES that the president’s directive is illegal.

He said the decision shows that Mr. Jonathan yielded to the demand of the Joint Health Workers Union, JOHESU.

“The action of Mr. President is illegal because there are several Acts that recognize Residencies in Nigeria and his action speaks volume of the government’s decision to follow the dictates of the Joint Health Workers Union. This is one of the issues the union is asking for.

“Whatever the government have done in their reaction to the NMA’s strike means they are not ready for dialogue because while we are engaging them, they have resorted to this,” Mr. Abdullahi said, saying members of his association nationwide were about 16,000.

A resident doctor, who spoke on anonymity to avoid persecution, condemned the decision saying he was now officially unemployed.

The doctor, a staff of a teaching hospital, said a colleague of his had just sent him another circular ordering all resident doctors to surrender hospital property in their possession.

The circular, seen by PREMIUM TIMES, said the doctor’s salaries and allowances for one month has been paid in lieu of the notice as they ordinarily are not entitled to any salaries for the period they have been on strike.

“In compliance with this order, I am to regrettably inform you that your appointment in this hospital is hereby terminated forthwith,” the letter issued residents doctors in a teaching hospital in the South South region of Nigeria stated.

The Nigerian Medical Association, NMA, of which the resident doctors are members, has been on strike since July 1.

One of the demands of the NMA was that the Federal Government through the Ministry of Health should formalize and implement the report of the inter-agency committee on residency training.

The NMA also asked the FG to release a uniform template on the appointment of resident doctors and a funding framework for residency training established while overseas clinical attachment be fully restored and properly funded.

Resident doctors are doctors being trained to become specialists/ consultants in different fields of medicine. During their 4 to 5 years training to become consultants, they work in different government hospitals and make up the majority of doctors in teaching hospitals.

“Let’s see how this will work. Except they want to kill the teaching hospitals and the health sector in general,” another resident doctor told PREMIUM TIMES.

He explained that he believed the incessant strike by resident doctors and the NMA was what influenced the government’s decision but doubted that it would be effective.

“In our own teaching hospital, about 90 per cent of the doctors are resident doctors, there are few medical officers. So how can you sack 90 per cent of doctors in a hospital?” he asked rhetorically.


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Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 6:00pm On Aug 14, 2014
jjwaterfalls: On my own point of view , for once am in support of GEJ's decision. I think his plan is a way of throwing confusion into d NMA so dat dey can come to dia senses dt dia demAndS ar unrealistic. But come to think of it why will doctors put money ahead of peoples lives, dey arent bothered becos I guess dey ar still receiving salary. It is rilly unfair. Ar dey d only workerS exposed to hlth hazardS? Wat abt d nurse who is with d pt 24hrs why didn't dey say dey want to die? Wat abt d lab scientistss and oda hlth workers?

Abeg goodluck ride on jare angry
I sincerely hope you can afford a trip to India......grin
Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 5:48pm On Aug 14, 2014
now I understand why demdem calls this man RETARDEEN.

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Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 5:42pm On Aug 14, 2014
someone who knows and loves Jonathan should remind him that this very action was taken against doctors in the 80's by the military junta. it was so bad that doctors had their names on the boards and on national TV as being sacked. they were also forcefully ejected from their residences by soldiers.
this culminated in the worst level of brain drain this country ever witnessed.
BUT it is pertinent to note that that move didn't work in a military regime let alone a democratic government run by an INDECISIVE,DRUNK AND GROSSLY UNINTELLIGENT WEAKLING!
Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 5:23pm On Aug 14, 2014
deeobserver209: Point noted. But don't you think nurses are being relegated to the background? By my observation nurses carry out must of the treatments on patients. These people work harder than the doctors themselves if you ask me.
you are definitely on high grade crack...
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 5:19pm On Aug 14, 2014
enny09: When government pay so much to train only doctors residency program in Nigeria and instead of doctors to be greatful they still threatened government with strikes, what do you expect government to do, now government will use the money to employ and pay only full term staff to work in the hospital, and if any medical professionals want residency program you will have to pay for it yourself, simple as ABC.
this is why our health system is in shambles. pay for residencyhuh grin grin grin grin

serious governments fund residency training.
the US even funds undergraduate medical training.

nigerians are a funny lot. get ready to start flying to india. i hope you can afford it otherwise you and your family are finished.
Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 5:15pm On Aug 14, 2014
jonathan is an i.mbecile. i ve just confirmed it. dude is r.etarded honestly!!

the only president in the world to sack his doctors.... grin grin grin grin grin grin grin in the face of a medical emergency......laughable!!!
Health › Re: Breaking:- FG Sacks All Resident Doctors by phantom(m): 5:11pm On Aug 14, 2014
deeobserver209: I used to support these doctors but when I got to learn how political their strike dived into and their superiority complex, I withdrew my support for them.
The main bone of contention is the demand for the establishment of the office of the 'Surgeon General of the Federation' which they argue should be established to take care of Health care matters in the country, just like the situation in the United States.
But things got crappy when they insist that only Doctors be appointed as a Surgeon General. Arguing that doctors are more qualified for the position considering the amount of time they spend on their course of study. This didn't go down well with the nurses who feel that such plan would only subjugate nurses to the background. The nurses were of the oppion that the office of the Surgeon General should be left wide open for whoever will be qualified to occupy that position, be it Nurse or a Doctor. They cite an example with the United States were the current Surgeon General is a Nurse.
the bolded is false! the surgeon general of the US has always been a doctor.
the surgeon general of the US army is a nurse and only because the military recognises rank instead.she was the most senior in the army health services
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 4:48pm On Aug 14, 2014
Leopantro: that means medical students cannot graduate to become doctors. Medical consultants automatically become medical officers because it's the training that gives the title. Medical governing bodies become redundant thus nobody to report to so malpractise becomes common place.

GOODLUCK TO ME, GOODLUCK TO YOU. GOODLUCK TO EVERYBODY........

You will need it.
this is what the m.orons do not know..... grin grin grin grin grin grin
effectively they ll be sh**ting on multiple laws governing the running of medicine and teaching hospitals in this country.

ebola is ravaging your country,where your doctors are on strike. your response to the situation is to fire the single largest body of doctors. the doctors WHO ACTUALLY KEEP THE HOSPITALS GOING. funny indeed. grin grin grin
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 4:35pm On Aug 14, 2014
message from NARD PRO;

As a fall out from NMA strike, NOC has confirmed a circular from d FG suspending residency training in Nigeria, terminating d appointment of all resident Drs n expressing readiness to employ locum Drs. All members should not feel intimidated by this action nor take up any sack letter or locum job in any hospital. Following an on-going meeting of NARD n NMA stakeholders 2day at NMA National Secretariat in abuja, appropriate responses have bn decided including legal. We must not loose focus on our struggle as it has just started. Aluta Continua. PRO.
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 3:49pm On Aug 14, 2014
the plan is to suspend residency->NARD can't vote at the next NMA edm->strike is called off->suspension is then lifted. masterstroke!
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 3:38pm On Aug 14, 2014
vibrio: A bad move from the FG and Health Minister.
They have just succeeded in prolonging the NMA strike
no o! its a smart move to them o!
Jonathan's solution to everything is a suspension...grin
fire ASUU, suspend NFF.... SMH

dumb leaders who have not realised the cost implication.
Health › Re: FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 3:29pm On Aug 14, 2014
its official! our president and his advisers are r.etarded.

I sleep well at night knowing I have not contributed to the present rot by not voting this man in 2011.
Health › FG Suspends Residency Training!! by phantom(op): 3:24pm On Aug 14, 2014
we have officially entered the bloody phase of the strike just like what was attempted for ASUU.
the FG wants to test the resolve of its doctors by officially suspending the residency training program and firing all resident doctors.
consequently,they want to employ foreign and local doctors to work with the consultants.
HOs, registrars and senior registrars have been fired.
no more specialist training!
the national and west African post graduate colleges will also cease to function.
Nigerians should therefore expect the hospitals to open soon and too be run by fresh doctors.

aluta continua....grin grin grin

The Federal Government, Thursday, announced the suspension of Residency Training programme in all Federal hospitals across the country.

According to a statement by the Deputy Director of Press, Federal Ministry of Health, Alhaji Isiaka Yusuf noted that the programme is suspended pending when all challenges in the health sector are addressed.

The statement reads:”The public could recalled the protracted strike action by members of the Nigeria Medical Association consequent on which untold hardship has befallen innocent members of the society who were in need of medical care.

“The Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) made good its threat of 11th June 2014 by calling out its members on industrial strike action on the 1st of July despite the Federal Government’s successive intervention meetings and dialogue including extensive deliberations with the leadership of the NMA on 25th and 26th June 2014, where agreements were reached on each of the 24 demands and an MoU was signed by both parties.

“In the midst of the strike action, the Federal Government had also cultivated the attention and intervention of some eminent personalities in order to prevail on the NMA leadership to respect the ethics of their profession and end the strike whilst the dialogue is ongoing. These personalities included the Governor of Delta State, the Secretary to Government of the Federation, members of the National Assembly especially the Senate and House Committees on Heath respectively, the Head of the Civil Service of the Federation, Chairman, National Salaries, Income and Wages Commission, the Senior Special Assistant to the President on Public Affairs, the Honourable Ministers of Health, Labour and Productivity, the Honourable Minister of State for Health, Presidents and Registrars of the National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria, the West African College of Physicians and West African College Surgeons, traditional rulers, eminent and senior members of the medical profession and past executives of the NMA.

“It should be stressed that the Federal Government has implemented more than 90 percent of its responsibilities as signed by both parties. At the conclusion of each meeting, the NMA promised to call off the strike but would return another day to say that they could not.

For the whole of July 2014, these doctors did not work yet government, owing to the emergency situation in our country, paid them the July salaries with allowances such as call duty allowance, teaching allowance, hazard allowance, etc. believing that this magnanimity of government would appeal to reason for NMA to call off the strike.

“This strike action can be considered as one of the most insensitive steps to be taken by any association or a labour union in the history of this country. Pertinent to the issue under discussion are the current security challenges in the country with the attendant mass casualties. The situation has been compounded by the recent importation of the Ebola Virus Disease into Nigeria on 20th July 2014.

“Following the Presidential declaration of a National Public Health Emergency on Ebola Disease which has united the entire country in the efforts to contain the disease, it is quite regrettable that the people who should take leadership role in the fight against Ebola disease are now the most unsupportive.

“All efforts by Government to contain this disease are being frustrated by the continued industrial strike action of the NMA.

“The Federal Government has therefore decided that Residency Training Programme in Federal Government Hospitals be suspended pending the conclusion of the ongoing appraisal of the challenges in the health sector.

“This directive is without prejudice to any emergency measure that may be necessary for the hospital management to immediately restore full medical services.

The Federal Government wishes to reassure the public that optimal medical health care delivery will be sustained in our hospitals, the statement reads.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/08/fg-sacks-resident-doctors/
Politics › Re: Kwankwasiyya by phantom(m): 1:32pm On Aug 14, 2014
interesting. one of the few gems from the APC.
Politics › Re: American Intelligence: Soviet Union / Britain Won Nigeria's Civil War by phantom(m): 11:34am On Aug 14, 2014
if only ojukwu hadn't trusted banjo to head the west ward advance,that war would have ended before the end of '68.
a Yoruba man would never have made that costly mistake.
a pity he didn't learn from the folly/naivety of ironsi for foiling a perfectly 'good-intentioned' coup.
that naivety still remains the bane of the Igbo man till this day.
Politics › Re: Amaechis Port Harcourt! by phantom(op): 9:13am On Aug 14, 2014
abagworo,you for snap the nearby ongoing construction of the PH book center at airforce.
Politics › Re: Amaechis Port Harcourt! by phantom(op): 9:11am On Aug 14, 2014
the second pix is 'the autograph' along sani abacha. its supposed to be an event center with shops and restaurants.opening soon.
Politics › Re: Amaechis Port Harcourt! by phantom(op): 8:34am On Aug 14, 2014
customized13: I saw agip flyover under-construction, is it the second one or the one that has been completed years back.
customized check the dates of those posts. they are quite old.
I ve not had time to update the thread. all of the projects on this thread have been completed.
Politics › Re: Breaking News:: Crisis In Rivers State by phantom(m): 4:08pm On Aug 13, 2014
LaRoyalHighness: If 'yes'..... so? undecided...
o please ...dont get all defensive. that was supposed to be a compliment.
Politics › Re: Breaking News:: Crisis In Rivers State by phantom(m): 2:29pm On Aug 13, 2014
LaRoyalHighness: Okuta is calm now. *spits on our 'youth*.
I hope the rest of your face is as fine as that eye?? grin
Politics › Re: Breaking News:: Crisis In Rivers State by phantom(m):
dBard: oh really? so I can now leave home..
btw, why u scared? ? wat happened t ur Rotts n alsies? ? ur d.b shotgun? ??
**goes back t sipping his zobo**

Politics › Re: Breaking News:: Crisis In Rivers State by phantom(m): 1:10pm On Aug 13, 2014
stebell: supporters of APC formenting trouble since their creation.
Amaechi i tot yu said τ̲̅ђe whole state is APShytee hw come yu are not wanted in τ̲̅ђe land of ÿøu̶̲̥̅̊я kinsmen.
just obio-akpor!
timothy and wike dey feel say obio akpor na private property. make we dey look.
Politics › Re: Breaking News:: Crisis In Rivers State by phantom(m): 1:06pm On Aug 13, 2014
they are now at rumuokoro. make dem no reach my house to avoid stories that touch!
nyesom wike boys wan cause commotion BUT dem dey forget say amaechi imsef na kushman.
im go help them scatter PH.

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