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DMerciful:
Your logic is flawed.

Before Ironsi, there were 4 regions, after Ironsi, there were 4 regions.

This is a fact!

Gowon destroyed the regions

Wrong. Before Ironsi, there ere three regions and the capital. After Ironsi, there were four states. Gowon made the division based on the new order. And he was only making sure your region was separated from the resources that pushed them to commit all the atrocities they commited.

gidgiddy:
You guys are funny, you say that it was Ironsi that abolished Region's, but say it had nothing to dobwith state creation? Is that not laughable?

You guys love peddling that lie. But unfortunately, this is internet age. Anyone can Google and see that it was Gowon that used Decree 14 to abolish all 4 Region's Nigeria had, and replace them with 12 states.


Edit

If anyone tells you that Ironsi abolished Region's or introduced unitary rule, know that's its a big lie. It's not possible to have unitary rule where there is resource control, and it's not possible to abolish Region's without replacing it with something else. Ironsi never touched resource control, and the 4 Region's he met when he came in were still there the day he was killed. What Ironsi introduced was Military rule. The person who abolished the 4 Region's, and created 12 new states to replace them, was Gowon, with Decree 14. Gowon then introduced full blown unitary rule with Decree 15 that ended resource control. Below are Decree 14 and 15

YOU guys would defend IRONSI with all your might. where in those excerpt did Gowon abolished regionalism？ Did anybody argue against the fact that he created the 12 states or what do you think empowered him to make such ammendment if not the fact that old order had been previously tampered and new constitution had been created？ Wasn't Ben Nwabueze the !d!ot who chaired the party that made the change again？ Or did you falsified history suggest anyone else？ If it did, avail us the name. Now, on whose order had Nwabueze acted？ Again, if your falsified documents named any other than IRONSI, bring up the name. You guys are not smart but you always overbloat your ego. Why don't you, therefore, attribute the abolishment to the government who made further division of states, since that now meant regional abolishment？
SO AS THE THEN NEW CONSTITUTION HAD CENTERED POWER TO THE CENTRAL, GOWON MUSTN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SUCH FOOLISHNESS？ SMH for your tribe and your distorted history orally passed down by elders covering up their folly. It was even public knowledge that GOWON took that drastic step to separate your region from the oil having also been aware the coup and subsequent regional abolishment coupled with removal of secession clause from the new constitution were all because of your forebears interest and greed over the common wealth.
The more you tried to shift blame, the more we'll bring real evidence. Younger generation are getting wiser too and are taking into consideration your bigotry.

Pogba12:
North Book

THE PLAYERS.
One never really got away with it but his bystander scaled all hurdle only to leave the stage, eventually, to an infamous uproar. Then, he knew his time was up and he stepped aside. Can we say the latter was smarter or more prepared？

Ofunaofu:
https://punchng.com/just-in-cbn-revises-guidelines-for-bureau-de-change-operators/?amp

Noted

That's not bad but surely we can do better. So, we charge them to improve.
GOD BLESS NIGERIA
WE RISE!

That's good for him.
GOD BLESS NIGERIA
WE RISE!

What a moment for him？ He was surely surreal all game long.

This one has been updated with NIGERIAN TEMPLATE. Just can't stop LOL!

Okay, cool.

Festus Keyamo was too brutal with that truth. He should be taking it easy with those guys.
For the Osita guy, he is just being a joke. He should live his talk first.. He should show us evidence,of how himself and his principal have been or started boycotting anything related to DUBAI, including sales of whatever properties or businesses they all have therein.

superCleanworks:
Keep trying to be clever. Abeg do you live in Abuja? There is no such place as ABUJA CITY.

Besides, the topic says ABUJA and not Abuja City

Perhaps, he meant ABUJA CENTRAL. The farther you move away from the central, the less impress you get with the capital. And not all part of Kigali are like what he shown.

Besides, these African cities they throw in your faces when trying to badmouth NIGERIANS are so small compare to ours, yet they're not wholly developed with shanties and slums surrounding the cities centres. Only SA's, Egyptian's, Morrocan's and Tunisian's top cities can really be envied：they have big and largely developed ones. We have more development on ground than many of them others, save the aforementioned countries cities.

It would amaze to learn that the cause of impeachment and the following chaos ain't related to the wellbeing and betterment of the indigents.

Oh! Somebody's beginning to feel too important. That's interesting

When God plans to liberate, exalt, and/or glorify you, He throws chaos in the midst of your oppositions/enemies.

That's so,cool

WannaHowzit:
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/772688/the-people-who-want-to-be-president-of-south-africa

All the best of luck to you guys.

WannaHowzit:
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/772688/the-people-who-want-to-be-president-of-south-africa/

All the best of luck to you guys.

opamoses1:
https://newspanther.co.za/eight-nigerian-nationals-denied-bail-after-alleged-attack-on-saps-personnel/

And in the end, they'll blame it on SA xenophobia if the police had retaliated violently too. They love to shield their faults and blame the consequence on everybody else.
Unfortunately, the,world sees NIGERIANS but most of the crimes sre always attached to their names everywhere they go.

gidgiddy:
Please stop talking nonsense. It doesn't matter how you demarcate people, wether Region's, States, Provinces, Local governments if those people are in one country, they are in one country!

The point is that the British should not have have brought Igbos and Yorubas together in one country in very first place. They should have been in two different countries from the very start

As soon as the British left in 1960, both tribes have been fighting politically to this day, and will fight forever

It is people who are similar in ideology, thinking and value system that should be coming together to form countries, not people who are vastly different, such as Igbos and Yorubas

The mistake has been made. However, God will be merciful and divide Yorubas and Igbos into different countries in the future

Igbos and Yorubas have no business being together in one country

YOU can't be serious. Anyway, your other moniker above already have your response. Look it out

yinkabeauty:
First, it's idiotic of you to tarnish a tribe just to make a point.
If you are making a supposedly good point then it's not neccesary to mar your points with this childish and unnecessary quote "Never seen a tribe so confused and silly".

Regionalism is not an outright independence of each other (i.e the regions) , they are still semi dependant on each other, one currency, one army, one country e.t.c
What the poster was saying is moment prior to that, the peoples should not have been lumped together, knowing that politics and fights may set in further...the British will release the goat but not leave the rope.....such division is what they thrive in, with their divide and explore tactics, the same British still ensure biaffra never got their freedom by actively engaged in holding them down.
The same happen in Anglophonic Cameroon why couldn't they grant independence to the region but still merged them with francophone Cameroon and today the problem is raging in Ambazonia, many have been killed in this fight for Independence of Ambazonia region in Cameroon till date, what sensible and hypermyopic people are saying is they should have considered diversity in lumping people together indiscriminately because prevention is better than cure.
We experienced the same here gowon , Ironsi and Co never allowed a step towards our regional independence rather they tighten the grip further via unitary government and creation of more States to weaken the region, if there was no foundation that allow it in the first place would there be any fight or struggle of self determination?
All what they are after is imperialism/financial gains with no recourse to ethnic identities or uniqueness.
gidgiddy

Your start is dramatic and shows a lot of traits from the other side. I won't put it pass the believe that the support comment here is also the brain behind the old comment I responded to. Same argument, same construct, same purpose, same mentality. And everything just blew your moniker out of the water （of deceit under which it submerged itself or rather, you submerged it）.
Away from that for a while, let's talk the main point of contention. That there ain't relationship between the regions prior to the amalgamation is a very wrong claim. Before amalgamation, the tribes had been interacting and migrating amongst and within themselves. Perhaps, you're fed with wrong fashion of history. The British saw regions which had peaceful co-existence with one another. Not many records of inter-tribal conflicts and battles despite the aforementioned relationship that was largely trade and economic related. What was common were clans or communities clashes or to put it in today's context, intra-tribal battles. So the Brits never saw your bitterness and hatred against others coming. Nnamdi Azikwe was born in northern Nigeria in 1904. His parents weren't the only people of Igbo descent there at the time. There were Igbo in Lagos before 1900, same way it was in Ibadan. And there were Northerners too. Records had it that Efunroye Tinubu （remember her？）married a Tapa indigent （from nowadays NIGER STATE）right around the mid 1800. Most northern agro exports took place at Lagos port and majority of our forebears （irrespective of tribe） born before amalgamation had their primary education in the old WESTERN REGION. So the British never saw any reason not to merged people who had had peaceful co-existence prior.
Of course, regionalism ain't sovereinty but the system gave each side independent enough, as having one currency, one army, one nation were and still are supposed to be strenght （amongst tribes who had shown no sign of hatred against another to the best of knowledge of the Brits）not problems. USA, UK practice such merger till today. In USA, the states independently enjoy fiscal and resource freehand which ensure they all develop in line with their capabilities and competitiveness. UK put sovereigns together but develop in their separate capacities too. Such was the good faith of the British that EVEN WHEN THEY WERE HANDING OVER, THEY ENSURED EACH REGION GOT AN OPTION TO QUIT THE MERGER. They weren't the problem, your people were and still are. There was no way they'd have known that you guys would turn bitter. They ain't seers. Even, the WET E unrest was a WESTERN REGION thing. It was between brothers under the same tribe but exhibiting vile against one another due to political differences until A CERTAIN IGBO GROUP TRICKED THE REST INTO INTER-REGIONS BLOODSHED THAT ENDED UP ENTHRONING ONE OF THEIRS. So the Igbos started the tribal conflicts. AND TO FURTHER SEAL THE WRONGS, IRONSI THAT WAS ENTHRONED CANCELLED NOT ONLY REGIONAL GOVERNMENT BUT THE SECESSION CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION THE BRITISH ASSISTED US TO BUILD, CITING ITS DIVISIVE TENDENCY AS REASON. He must have thought they would be in control of all the nation's combined resources （NigerDelta oil that was beginning to generate money, North agricultural strenght that was generating a lot of wealth and above all, the Old Western Region agricultural, service, port and tax strenght that made them the leading and most developed and sought after region）to be expended as they deemed fit. But of course, the North had other ideas. The revenge was more than the IGBO could imagine.
But being silly, it's always the Yoruba's fault that they're in NIGERIA. Where you guys don't call out the Yoruba indigents, it's otherwise the BRITISH. Ironsi that actually cancelled out regionalism and the secession clause hardly get a mention despite being the main culprit. All you guys do is trying to wash that out of existence, as if it never happened. We know and we understand perfectly where the faults lies. Eni ti o ye ki e maa gbe sepe losan ati loru, e n wa gbe pamo ki awon eyan ma ri abukun re. O n tini loju fun yin.
Well if AWOLOWO's misdeed, and by extension, the Yoruba's misdeed, is the citation of your weakness during the civil war and the impact of the OBASANJO led troops to capture your region, then I say kudos to them FOR NOT ALLOWING A BLOATED EGO INVADE THE OLD WESTERN REGION WITH WAR THEY HAD HITHERTO DECIDED NOT TO BE A PARTY TO. IF THE FOILED ORE INVASION DIDN'T HAPPEN, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE RAISED A FINGER. So others ain't the problem, the genesis of all the drama was your forebears hate and poorly thought out strategies.
And lest I forget, seek a mirror now, look into it and the idiot you talk about will appear unblocked to your sight.

Kare OMOLUABI. Continue breaking barriers. The sky is merely the start of heights. Climb on!

GOD BLESS THE YORUBALAND IN GENERAL

ILE OODUA A GBEWA O

WE RISE!

EthanSly:
Born and raised In Nigeria..
Left Nigeria in 2018 and he is now a British Nigerian..

If it was a crime now he would be referred to as a Nigerian..

Make we sha the use our head..

People will identify you with a name, whether you or themselves, like it or loathe it. But what they come to identify you with would be determined by whom/what you make of yourself. it's the law of nature.

Nice

It will be a miracle if Diddy don't end up in jail. Everything and everyone seems to be working against him.

That's not good enough

It doesn't always work that way SIM, if you see/detect crime but act on it because of approval/command, you're also an accomplice because you have an option. You can resign immediately.

Respect the dead. Let bygone stays bygone

Hmmmmm!

Great idea by NORD. If the tricycle's batteries last two working days as being claimed and they get fully charged almost as fast as your electronic gargets, then it's gonna be a success. Riders would just have to recharge at night after work and they're good for the whole of the next day.

Noted

Makinde should've been sensitive enough not to post this. He just showed he doesn't trust his performance in his state education system. Or worse still, that he has no faith in his investment in the security architecture of the state he manages. 'Don't just understand how our politicians think.

Wetin concerns the institutions, especially WAEC？ So because of IP0B cr@ze, a general and continental exam would be reset for just a little region？ Craz￡ dey worry them. The exam goes on as planned, e no go better for them if dem allow the kids take it.

gidgiddy:
Igbos and Yorubas should never have been in the same country together, it was a disastrous mistake by the British. It had created a situation where both tribes will be politically fighting each forever

But God will be merciful one day and divide both tribes into different countries of their own, there will be nothing to fight about any more, and everyone can finally rest from this disastrous British colonial contraption called Nigeria

Please stop re-writing history to your ethnicity propaganda. The BRITISH did their best by demarcating the amalgamation into regional sects so that each individual region can operate independently. The constitution our collective forebears came to accept at independence, with their assistance and after due consultation of all available regions gave each individual region options of secession （if need be in future）. THAT WAS UNTIL ONE VSELESS AND GODF0RSAKEN IGBO CREW ASSUMED POWER BY CROOK TO DISRUPT AND DESTROY THE SYSTEM. STVPID IRONSI WAS THE CULPRIT WHO MASTERMINDED OUR IRREVERTIBLE UNION, CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION. Others only play along. Now they're suffering for it and are calling out everyone else for the faults of their forebears. Even faraway Brits are not being spared. Never seen a tribe so confused or silly.