₦airaland Forum

Blazay2:
Still in the 'planning' phase?
The darker the skin. . . . the longer the plan.

lol. . . damn. That's harsh.

I don't understand this thread.

pleep:
1. all we produce is rap music

2. We started calling each other 'Niga'

3. we sag our pants

4. we curse alot

do you guys think that us africans are copying the negatives Hip/ hop culture?

Who, where and when? If so, then you might be right.

@ 1 & 3, no

docjuli:
By Idris Akinbajo
February 23, 2011 03:38AM

It was 9 a.m. on Wednesday, February 9. Ramatu Bako, 35, a tall, dark woman, and her team of seven lawyers poured into Court 6 of the Abuja High Court to commence a fierce legal battle against the British Council, the United Kingdom owned international cultural relations organisation. Dressed in a black suit, an ash-coloured headscarf and a pair of black shoes, Ms. Bako, who was project manager in the Abuja office of the UK charity organisation until her sack on July 1, 2010, wanted Justice S.E Aladetoyinbo to compel her former employer to reinstate her, pay her N100 million in damages and settle her outstanding salaries and allowances.

Ms. Bako, a lawyer, worked for the British Council for 10 years. But in March last year, they had a disagreement which eventually led to Ms. Bako’s sack on July 1, 2010. Since then, Ms. Bako, had battled to be reinstated, saying she was discriminated against and that her sack violated Nigerian labour laws and the terms of her contract. After it became clear that the British Council was in no mood to reopen her case, Ms. Bako headed for court last December. The case was mentioned for the first time on February 9.

The face-off between Ms. Bako and her former employer began March 1 last year. The British Council had, as part of its cultural exchange programmes, hosted some citizens of Northern Ireland to participate in a programme with some Kano indigenes. Being the council’s project manager for intercultural dialogue and social cohesion programmes in Nigeria, Ms.

Bako was directly in charge of the event. But a day into the six-day programme, Ms. Bako said she fell sick and left Kano for her Abuja. In her absence, Ben Fisher, a Briton and the organisation’s programme manager for Kano took charge of proceedings.

Read more from the source:
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/National/5678588-146/story.csp
Complaints led to dismissal
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More staff grievances
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British Council responds
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Blame the Global Meltdown
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Sounds like she messed up; not having a back up plan.

semasir:
It is a mere write-up to write the history of Lagos with no mention of Badagry neither can you write of Nigeria or the wider West Africa and Africa ignoring Badagry as well. Though the name, Badagry, came out of oral misuse of the name Gbagleme, it has never been a Bad-agreement land as assumed by some.
Notably, Badagry had the first Christmas, first storey building and the likes been started all here and even the legendary Bishop Ajayi Crowther stayed in the storey building to translate the English Bible to Yoruba there. So far so good, the town has witnessed little or no significance change despite being the spear-head of most of innovations so to say in Nigeria.
I wonder sometimes how the state of the town as been and thanks at least to the governor who made some democracy impact felt with a better road network in the town and some lightening as well. At this age now, where does Badagry hopes to be in the nearest future? Can it be likened to the likes of Ajah, V.I., Lagos Island, Ikeja and the likes soon?

Living on past glory. . .

Ehigie is not an Igbo name. Nor is Oniha. Both of those names are Edo.

The Adrinka/Akan symbols are a good example of pre-colonial African ideograms, (but not a fully developed writing system).



http://www.adinkra.org/htmls/adinkra_index.htm


http://www.adinkra.org/htmls/books.htm#adinkra_dictionary


http://www.africawithin.com/akan/akan_architecture.htm


[img]http://3.bp..com/_kJLrriuC968/SlsykVCYvtI/AAAAAAAABTQ/UYyTnLusRys/s400/adinkra-symbols.jpg[/img]

https://www.africawithin.com/akan/COLLAGE1.JPG

cau:
Professor Ike married Professor (Mrs.) Adebimpe Olurisola Ike (nee Abimbolu) on 13 December 1959 at the Chapel of Resurrection, University College, Ibadan. They have a son, Prince Ositadinma Adeolu Nnanyelugo Olusanya IKE, grand son, Chukwuemeka Ike (II), and a grand daughter, Adaeze Adebimpe Ike.

Who knew?

It actually could go either way. I can see both sides.

lol, I just asked a question.


What about that Ogedengbe guy?  (Ekiti parapo liberation army) Any monuments to him? museums? etc.




But if there is only a spring or river as a tourist attraction, perhaps the focus on tourism is misguided.

So the father was a militant, and then the son and his buddies are militants?


They're just dumb thugs. What do they have to be militant about in Ondo state?

and behold.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=608996.msg7775394#msg7775394 date=1298320863][size=13pt]Is Alhaji Harem secretly the commander of Boko Haram?  [/size][/quote]An important question. . .

HB

ShangoThor:
Princes kill Princes, Councils give orders to kill Princes, Princes give orders to abduct other Princes, or Councils give orders to abduct Princes, those are the rules, because it is deemed an act of war or a statement of subjugation.


The Ilaje have two main Principalities, Mahin and Ugbo, with their respective Princes, The Amapetu of Mahin; and the Olugbo of Ugbo. The Ilajes also have other minor Principalities and Princes, such as the Alagho of Odonla.
Ugbo Ilaje as Yorubas are more culturally influenced and mixed with the Bini (because of its close proximity), and Ugbo land is the only oil producing part of Yoruba land. The Oba of Ugbo land - Oba Fredrick Akinruntan - is also the CEO of Obat Oil (see link: http://www.obatoil.com/home.html ).   This Oba is extremely Machiavellian and in his bid to consolidate his control on Oil derivation in the area he is eliminating all the other Princes that oppose his control.
The latest issue of Several armed militant Ijaws going on a violent rampage and abducting a monarch is linked to this very issue. If we use our heads instead of our hearts to decipher the info related to the events, we are told allegedly that ‘the ex militant son (who we do not have a name for) of a deceased Ijaw resident (who we do not have a name for) sacked a village because he suspected that his father’s demise was due to homicide.
There is more to this than meets the eye. This is a time for true wisdom to prevail, African wisdom, African Intelligence. No Ijaw community would sanction the abduction of a Yoruba monarch, because both communities have been neighbours for thousands of years, share a common civilization and are subject to the same rules. That is right, there are rules.

Princes kill Princes, Councils give orders to kill Princes, Princes give orders to abduct other Princes, or Councils give orders to abduct Princes, those are the rules, because it is deemed an act of war or a statement of subjugation. Individuals acting alone never do these things. I suspect that Ijaw mercenaries have been hired to carry out the dirty work for the treacherous Oba. Furthermore, there are other Ilaje Princes that are under threat at the moment. Other incidents to further corroborate what I am saying is the burning of the deposed Ilaje Princes home in Akure last week, see link :
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=604627.msg7727560#msg7727560
This was no accident or coincidence, the Prince that was targeted was deposed by Oba Fredrick Akinruntan. In other words all these events are orchestrated treachery by the treacherous Oba, and hence this is an internal affair of the Ilaje and Yoruba. Where the complication lies is that Oba Fredrick Akinruntan is a strong ally of the Ooni of Ife. However, this Prince has brought the privileges associated with his title into disrepute.

This will be a huge test for the Yoruba to see if they can stand for justice and reform the Obaship. There is a conflict of interest in an Oba using his position to consolidate his control of the mineral rights of the polity. The (cursed) Oil belongs to the people and should be used to improve the social conditions of the people at large. 

Lastly , I pity the individuals that have seized this unfortunate incident as a moment to jest about the loss of life of the innocent, simple citizens in rural locations that are just striving and barely making a living. It is an extremely callous opportunistic attitude to exploit the suffering of others. I have had running physical and verbal battles with European men over their claims of African inferiority. The bottom line is that we appear to be still locked into a primitive atavistic world view, where we tend to concentrate on cultural differences such as that of language and polity location as opposed to being able to identify and eliminate our common threats. I have always argued that if the ‘Slave Trade’ was in operation today, there would be no shortage of Nigerians that would fight to sustain it.

The implication for Nigeria and particularly Southern Nigeria is still the same. All this is happening because of our ‘MALFUNCTIONING STATE’. Life is perceived to be so cheap, people committing weekly atrocities with impunity, babies are butchered and life goes on. Our civility and humanity has been breached and nobody cares. If we cannot fix the State and its apparatus to function correctly, then it’s time to start arming our communities so that they can start protecting themselves.

God bless Africa.

Sounds like bullshit.

It's obvious that he left to try and continue the Biafran struggle, not for personal safety. I've never understood how the whole Ivory Coast thing has been twisted into some sort of act of cowardice.

Your thoughts?


Or do I have to buy your book to get your opinion on Azikiwe?

Metalgoong:
The above pedestrian writeups do not take anything away from her academic and professional achievements . . . lol

lol. . .ok. If you say so.

nwabobo:
ANAMBRA

Ndi Okereke-Onyiuke (Former DG, NSE)

uhhh. . . .nah


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-582979.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-491602.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-162066.0.html

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=599800.msg7761675#msg7761675 date=1298128794]Physics,

The indigenity of the cultures you mentioned is not in dispute, neither is their antiquity. In the context of the post that drew this response, I went bottom up to the protectorate ruler under the umbrella of which several other secondary and tributary people existed.

So if I say Yoruba empire was the only and authentic nation before the creation of the "new society" (Nigeria), I went as far back as possible to see if any of the current three major tribes had that attribute of an ancient Kingdom (Songhay, Oyo, Mali, Kanem, Benin, Ashanti. . . .etc) The Hausas do not have a nation either. The seven states belong to Fulani nation and was formulated after the model of Oyo empire, long after Oyo had been the single Protectorate in the region. The Igbo kingdom, so to speak, cannot even be identified in any of this context of state/nation/empire/kingdom.[/quote]Okay, I get what you meant now. You were only talking of the three major ethnic groups.


However, I disagree with your assertion about the Hausas:

"The earliest source to mention Amina is Muhammad Bello's history Ifaq al-Maysur, composed around 1836. He claims that she was "the first to establish government among them," and she forced Katsina, Kano and other regions to pay tribute to her.[2] Bello, unfortunately provided no chronological details about her. She is also mentioned in the Kano Chronicle, a well-regarded and detailed history of the city of Kano, composed in the late 19th century, but incorporating earlier documentary material. According to this chronicle, she was a contemporary of Muhammad Dauda, who ruled from 1421–38, and Amina conquered as far as Nupe and Kwarafa, collected tribute from far and wide and ruled for 34 years.[3] A number of scholars accept this information and date her reign to the early to mid-15th century.[4][5]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amina


"The seven original states of Hausaland: Katsina, Daura, Kano, Zazzau, Gobir, Rano, and Garun Gabas cover an area of approximately 500 square miles and comprise the heart of Hausaland. In the sixteenth century, Queen Bakwa Turunku built the capital of Zazzau at Zaria, named after her younger daughter. Eventually, the entire state of Zazzau was renamed Zaria, which is now a province in present-day Nigeria.

However it was her elder daughter, the legendary Amina (or Aminatu), who inherited her mother's warlike nature. Amina was 16 years old when her mother became queen and she was given the traditional title of magajiya. She honed her military skills and became famous for her bravery and military exploits, as she is celebrated in song as "Amina daughter of Nikatau, a woman as capable as a man."

Amina is credited as the architect who created the strong earthen walls around the city, which was the prototype for the fortifications used in all Hausa states. She built many of these fortifications, which became known as ganuwar Amina or Amina's walls, around various conquered cities.

The objectives of her conquests were twofold: extension of Zazzau beyond its primary borders and reducing the conquered cities to vassal status. Sultan Muhammad Bello of Sokoto stated that, "She made war upon these countries and overcame them entirely so that the people of Katsina paid tribute to her and the men of Kano [and], also made war on cities of Bauchi till her kingdom reached to the sea in the south and the west." Likewise, she led her armies as far as Nupe and, according to the Kano Chronicle, "The Sarkin Nupe sent her [the princess] 40 eunuchs and 10,000 kola nuts. She was the first in Hausaland to own eunuchs and kola nuts."

Amina was a preeminent gimbiya (princess) but various theories exist as to the time of her reign or if she ever was a queen. One explanation states that she reigned from approximately 1536 to 1573, while another posits that she became queen after her brother Karama's death, in 1576. Yet another claims that although she was a leading princess, she was never a queen.

Despite the discrepancies, over a 34-year period, her many conquests and subsequent annexation of the territories extended the borders of Zaria, which also grew in importance and became the center of the North-South Saharan trade and the East-West Sudan trade. "

http://blackhistorypages.net/pages/amina.php




Also, there is no evidence that the Sokoto caliphate was modeled after the Oyo empire.

Yeah, my mistake. Darfur is quite distinct.



I mean its ironic that they're looking to Nigeria for guidance when they've escaped some problems which Nigeria has not.

The Sudanese civil wars were precisely because of Northern Sudanese socio-political domination.

The supporter of APC were allowed to carry on as they did by the Northern controlled Sudanese government and there were (believable) claims of government forces arming or aiding them.

Both events have a similar origin, in my opinion.

I think some Muslim scholars are deliberately trying to exploit a few vague and shadowy references to enforce death for apostasy.

"Hadith

Writing in the Encyclopedia of Islam, Heffening holds that contrary to the Qur'an, "in traditions [i.e. hadith], there is little echo of these punishments in the next world… and instead, we have in many traditions a new element, the death penalty."[47] Wael Hallaq states the death penalty was a new element added later and "reflects a later reality and does not stand in accord with the deeds of the Prophet."[5]

Some hadith report that in some cases Muhammad allowed apostates to live:

Jabir ibn `Abdullah narrated that a Bedouin pledged allegiance to Muhammad for Islam (i.e. accepted Islam) and then the Bedouin got fever whereupon he said to Muhammad "cancel my pledge." But Muhammad refused. He (the Bedouin) came to him (again) saying, "Cancel my pledge." But Muhammad refused. Then he (the Bedouin) left (Medina). Muhammad said, "Madinah is like a pair of bellows (furnace): it expels its impurities and brightens and clear its good."[4]

Another hadith reports that Ubayd-Allah ibn Jahsh converted to Christianity and Muhammad also left him unharmed.[56][57]

Ayatollah Montazeri holds that it is probable that the punishment was prescribed by Muhammad during early Islam to combat political conspiracies against Islam and Muslims, and is not intended for those who simply change their belief or express a change in belief. Montazeri defines different types of apostasy. He argues that capital punishment should be reserved for those who desert Islam out of malice and enmity towards the Muslim community, and not those who convert to another religion after investigation and research.[46]
[edit] Historic

According to Muslim Islamic scholar Cyril Glassé, death for apostasy was "not in practice enforced" in later times in the Muslim world, and was "completely abolished" by "a decree of the Ottoman government in 1260AH/1844AD."[58]
[edit] Justifications for the death penalty
[edit] Qur'an

There are no verses in the Quran explicitly dictating the death penalty for apostasy. However, more recently, Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi, a noted 20th century Islamic Scholar argued that verses [Qur'an 9:11] of the Qur'an sanction death for apostasy. The argument given by Mawdudi[59] for these verses is:

"The following is the occasion for the revelation of this verse: During the pilgrimage (hajj) in A.H. 9 God Most High ordered a proclamation of an immunity. By virtue of this proclamation all those who, up to that time, were fighting against God and His Apostle and were attempting to obstruct the way of God's religion through all kinds of excesses and false covenants, were granted from that time a maximum respite of four months. During this period they were to ponder their own situation. If they wanted to accept Islam, they could accept it and they would be forgiven. If they wanted to leave the country, they could leave. Within this fixed period nothing would hinder them from leaving. Thereafter those remaining, who would neither accept Islam nor leave the country, would be dealt with by the sword." In this connection it was said: "If they repent and uphold the practice of prayer and almsgiving, then they are your brothers in religion. If after this, however, they break their covenant, then war should be waged against the leaders of kufr (infidelity). Here "covenant breaking" in no way can be construed to mean "breaking of political covenants". Rather, the context clearly determines its meaning to be "confessing Islam and then renouncing it". Thereafter the meaning of "fight the heads of disbelief" ([Qur'an 9:11]) can only mean that war should be waged against the leaders instigating apostasy."

Mawdudi's interpretation is supported by other Muslim writers. For example, Afzal ur-Rahman in Muhammad, Blessing for Mankind, Seerah Foundation, London, Revised Second Edition, 1988, p. 218 under "Apostasy" states:

"People who turn away from Islam and do not repent but wage war and create mischief in the land are also considered as murderers. "But if they break their oaths after making compacts and taunt you for your faith, you should fight with these ringleaders of disbelief because their oaths are not trustworthy: it may be that the sword alone will restrain them" (Quran 9:12). And in Surah Al-Nahl, "But whosoever accepts disbelief willingly, he incurs God's Wrath, and there is severe torment for all such people"(Quran-usc 16:106)"

[edit] Hadith

In the Hadith the death penalty is mentioned in several passages. For example,

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
—Bukhari, Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:83:17

Other examples include Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:260, Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:84:57, Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:84:58 and Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:89:271."


^^^^

From that same wikipedia article.

Kobojunkie:
I disagree ! He knows I am not a muslim but simply reacting to the words of a muslim man who says he is and another should be put to death for leaving islam.

Who knows more about islam than a muslim who practices and believes it ( fanatical or not)? If the version he clings to says non-muslims must die, who am I to disagree with him? All I can do is protect myself from him.

Yeah, but his assumption that what a Muslim man practices and believes is based on the Quran is actually perfectly valid and reasonable given the status accorded to that book in the religion. Of course there are hadith, but in general one would look to the Quran to see if something was actually legitimate from the viewpoint of Islam.

It turns out that in regard to this specific issue, many Muslims, not just in Nigeria, are going beyond the Quran, not unlike the Spanish Inquisition going beyond the bible.

homerac7:
^^

No, its most proper. Jos,  Bauchi & Maiduguri r not enogh issues to deny them of our full support at ds their infantile stage.

Like Ajumoghobia rightly responded, TAC is what dey need most. We can send dem teachers, professors, doctors, engineers and other technocrats to help them build their new country. They also need security wc we can train their citizens on.

That wasn't what I was saying.

Southern Sudan split because of Northern socio-political domination, ethnic violence, and the scarcity of grazing land leading to supporter of APC raids.

This reminds me of Nigerian Northern political domination, ethnic violence (Jos, Benue, and previous conflicts), and rapidly approaching desertification leading to nomadic Fulani going even as far as Anambra and Cross river, Ekiti, etc. and killing people there over grazing and cows. Not that its on the same scale. It's just the existence of these parallels and yet South Sudan coming to Nigeria for guidance going forward that I find ironic.

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=606188.msg7743252#msg7743252 date=1297883759]Thanks. That's the point I was trying to make. If the Quran doesn't permit it then it is not islamic. Bakare had that right as a muslim.[/quote]Well the Quran apparently says that apostates will be punished by God.


It doesn't take much imagination to twist that into a mandate for executing apostates, but the thing that those who do so forget is that the Quran says the Jews and Christians are fellow people "of the Book" (?) and clearly indicates that they are not "infidels". So I don't see how an apostate could justifiably be punished for converting to Christianity or Judaism.