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Capaldi:
We are talking about Vinicius. There's no clear and universal agreed definition of a world class player. Sterling at Man City had world class numbers with only Salah amongst wingers scoring more if that's not consistency at the highest level then tell me what is. Vini and sterling at Man city are not world class but Kimmich is world class for winning Bayernliga year in and year out.

Wetin Vinicius do wey Gnabry never do before? Do you see Bayern fans proclaiming Gnabry as WC? Or is it because Vini is the rave of the moment. Sterling's numbers don't count for muchy because he doesn't pass the eye test. His stats is partly due to the tactical brilliance of Pep, not because of some exceptional talent he has. He has never been THE top player for either club or country at any point in time in his career.

Na only for BuLi Kimmich dey perform abi? He no get anything outside Germany, shey? Kimmich is world-class because he has been incredibly consistently over the last 6 seasons, turning up in some of the biggest games at the highest level. He is the best player on one of the top 3 teams in the world. Why you go even compare Kimmich, a DM with wingers like Vinicius and Sterling in the first place?

Jodera:
Lol... True words.
World class bar is high and Obvious. It shouldn't be reduced to something ordinary where any good player can attain.

As for the bolded, definitely No!!

Any player who have uncertainty over him on whether he's a good player or not is certainly isn't world class. In fact, Sterling was more heralded in Liverpool than Man City even though he posted more numbers in the latter.

Ironic, Yeah, but that should tell you all you need to know

Sterling's case is an interesting one because he has the numbers and trophies to back up that claim. Years from now, you go see kids dey argue say Sterling na one of the GOATS of his generation based on his stats. Na us wey watch am go dey tell dem say the guy no great like that. Sterling is just a good player who was part of a great team. He has never and will never be the main man on any top team. Na why I dey laugh when Chelsea sign am. This guy no fit drag teams to titles.

MorataFC:
You too sef dey fall hands, how can you say Saka is above average?
Saka is a world-class player, the only winger that I rated ahead of him for now, is Vinici Junior.

Make una dey calm down. Saka never reach WC levels. Even Vinicius sef. Consistency + multiple exceptional performances at the highest level is what makes you WC. IMO, once you are world-class, you will always be world-class. Your form and performances may diminish but that tag is permanent. It's a recognition of what you've done or achieved.

By the way, is Sterling world-class? E get why I dey ask

Unlimited22:
Exactly what I'd have picked. ASB Shaa.

Hehehe. Welcome back, bro

Griffon:
You have £10 to complete the perfect back four.

Baresi - Vidic - Maldini - Ashley Cole

Lahm - Ramos - Maldini - A.Cole. Fullbacks with strong defense and offense. CBs can also cover on the rare occasion those FBs get caught out.

Capaldi:
PFA award is in August 29th celebrating their 50years anniversary. It was announced back in March.

Oh, you are right. I must have missed out on the news. But no shortlist or team of the year nominations yet. We all know Haaland is winning anyway.

Anyone else noticed how there's been no PFA Player of the Year and Team of the Year awards for last season? It's been over a month since the season ended and there's being no news from the organisers. No reason or explanation at all.

Did they think we were not going to notice in the midst of being swarmed by all the other end-of-the-season awards (FWA, EA TOTS, PLPOTS)? You would think a highly-respected player union like the PFA would at least issue a statement explaining the reason for cancellation. If na Naija now, I for understand.

This anti spambot na bastard sha. Unlimited22, kpele oh. Your sentence will soon be over

Realtord43 don buy market for Jodera hand this afternoon Makes me remember the old days on this thread when debates dey hot. Every claim, no matter how minor was scrutinized. You cap carelessly, dem go open your nyash.

Unlimited22:
Lordfal.cao and I on Kovacic. Gone..

Na Lordfa.lcao abi na thecassanova? That guy no fit see anything good for Kovacic body

Kilishihunter:
This is coming very late chief but nonetheless I wish you a happy birthday plus LLNP. More blessings.

Thank you very much, my guy. More kilishi to you

chelseabmw:
My bro, I’ve been offline for a while now, just seeing this.. Thanks so much I appreciate bro.. na u supposed buy me the lastest X6 mk I k enjoy this salah haha.. More Blessings Bro

You are welcome, chief. Ah ahn, na you be Boss nau Stay safe, bro.

Kimbeast:
Check your eyes probably you might not be seeing clearly. How does a player who has zero impact and only does intangibles creates the 2nd most Chances in the league for his team, creates the 2nd most chances for his team in the champions league as well and also become the player with the most chances created in a single season by an English player. He doesn't take set pieces at City so all those chances came from open-play. He also completed the most dribbles in the team as well. He provided goal or assists against Bayern, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, and Manchester United but according to you he doesn't have any impact. You are comparing players that spent 4 to 5years with Pep with someone that just broke into Pep first eleven this season and had to adapt to a different way of playing . He shown at villa because he had the freedom to do anything unlike Pep system that is rigid and mechanical were everything is planned. Hear from Pep and Grealish.


https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/Guardiola-responds-to-Grealish-after-he-opened-up-on-his-struggles-to-adapt/3001598

Grealish is creating chances all over the place, yet he can't even notch 10 assists in all comps. Even Cancelo was doing much more playing LB. The only reason Grealish is getting a bit of praise is because he managed to improve on his disastrous first season. Not because he did anything special.

Grealish isn't just breaking into Pep's starting XI. He was a starter for the majority of his first season. It was when Pep saw how useless he was that he gave up on him. City were 2 goals down in a must-win game against Villa and Pep didn't even look the way of his 100m signing. Sane, Sterling and Foden didn't take long before hitting their strides under Pep. But we have to wait for 3-4 years before City get anything close to value for a player they paid nine figures for.

Capaldi:
Why will Kane even contemplate going to a farmers league to win a pointless trophy like the Bayernliga when he has suitors in England and Spain. Kane is too loyal to Spurs to leave on a free transfer so anybody thinking they will get him for free next July Is just wasting their time. He will sign a 2 year contract extension to enable spurs get a transfer fee if he doesn't leave this window. Same way hazard didn't want to leave for free and told Madrid to pay up or he will extend his contract.

Kane hasn't won a plastic spoon in his life. You think e go dey select trophies? Moreover Bayern is his best chance at filling up his cabinet. He also has an opportunity of winning major individual awards like the Ballon d'or and FIFA's The Best, playing for us. Which of the remaining clubs can offer him all these except Real who are too busy chasing Mbappe?

Kimbeast:
How can you say grealish has little impact when he just created the most chances by an English player in a champions league season. He creates, scores, work hard, dribbles, wins fouls plus being press resistance which are all the things Pep needs in his system. Pep system is even reducing his ability because the Grealish at Aston villa is not the one we are seeing at City.

Lmao. Which one be "most chances created by an English player in a CL season"? How many assists did he end up with? When you can only resort to meaningless stats as this and his almighty fouls won when making a case for Grealish, then you know there is a problem. Mind you, I'm not that crazy about G+A. Grealish doesn't pass the eye test for me and his stats are ordinary for a someone playing for the best team in the world. He shone at Villa because he had plenty of space to exploit. When he got to City, he couldn't adapt to having bodies in front of him and flopped.

Pep has only just found a way to not make him entirely useless. The same system Foden, Sterling and Sane were dropping double digits in goals and assists for league, e reach Grealish turn, we begin hear fouls won and work rate. If it was a foreign player in question, the English media would have torn him to pieces. Grealish is only but an inferior version of our Coman at Bayern. All shakushaku and little end product.

raumdeuter:
Pep dropped Mahrez because he does not the defensive contribution of Bernardo or Grealish

Last season Gabriel Jesus or Foden was leading the line and they have more defensive contribution, this season with Haaland not doing that much defensively, they can barely afford another defensive liability like Mahrez

The way City plays exposes their defence and midfield and having wingers who put in shift defensively helps

When you see Grealish and Bernardo sometimes playing at Wing backs

Also Mahrez first instinct is to shoot, That will not work when you have Haaland that need you to feed him. Mahrez takes a lot of low percentage shots too when someone like Pep will rather you recycle the ball and wait for a high percentage opportunity.

Peps pattern is to rotate the ball so much in midfield look for opening in half spaces, cut back and someone taps in. It makes scoring look easy but it requires certain skilsets to do that

You are absolutely right on all of the points you made. It's just sad that a player of Mahrez' quality doesn't fit in with Pep's tactics.

You see that Grealish? That boy na scam. I hate players who mask their lack of output or impact with intangibles. It's even more annoying when the English media try to put a spin on it. You hear stuff like "he's a good lad to have around, he lifts the mood in the dressing room" Na wetin Man City pay 100m for be that? You can see Pep is trying to squeeze at least some good out of him, but I know im sef go don gba kamu. Grealish na another Joelinton. In his case, some shakushaku and workrate with little impact.

andrewbaba44:
Rice isn’t the right replacement for any of those 2 nah

Na non-linear thinking, bro. You don forget say na Pep we dey deal with It doesn't have to be like-for-like. I mentioned Bernardo and Mahrez, because there has been uncertainty regarding their future

Bernardo is key here because of his versatility as a CM and RM/RW. If he finally leaves, getting Rice allows Rodri to play at CM, and the RM/RW slot is left for Mahrez, Cancelo or whoever Pep deems as his replacement. If na Mahrez wan comot, Bernardo keeps his place at RW.

I think while getting Rice doesn't mean Bernardo and Mahrez WILL leave, it could mean City may be open to the idea of letting one or both of them go.

Ihebu4chelsea:
Mahrez. Definitely!! His game time reduced during the end of Last season!!

Omo, I feel for Mahrez. Despite being a world-class winger, he has never really been a starter all through his 5 years at City. Na in and out. Pep sef na weyrey, some days e go remember am and play him for long stretches, other days e no go even look him side. This is someone who would be an assured starter at many of the other top clubs. The guy don enter 30's now, e no go bad if he decides to chase the bag

Make Riyad go Riyadh go make riyal

andrewbaba44:
Normally 90 million is too much for rice ,and they just rejected the offer from man city

This one that City are going all in for Rice, something tells me at least one of Bernardo and Mahrez is very likely to leave.

andrewbaba44:
Pkasso come and carry your brother abeg

Lmao. No be Kessie I dey see so? Abi na him doppelganger? Wetin Baba dey wear our jersey for? We no dey do, abeg

WhoDeyHause:
I hope I will still be a good person sir when I come for Bayern. 😁.

LOL. No wahala, bro.

Culer:
it shouldn't happen abeg. The guy is 34 fgs! Dey should kuku beg busquets to come back, a finished busi is better than an almost finished gbarejo.

I don't think planning to replace Busquets with Parejo is a good idea. Parejo na CM, even though he can play that DLP role well. I think Xavi should give FdJ a chance as a pivot with Pedri and Gavi as the 8s.

Culer:
Lol. You dey cap careless. Upacanoe better than araujo how? In what world? Even de ligt no better pass araujo, talkless Upacanoe.
How Una take dey watch football sef

I said they were on the same level, with Upa's errors holding him back. De Ligt is better than Upa, and by extension Araujo.

jpmoriarti:
Until you see me.

Good thing you apologized, man. I know WhodeyHause no dey hold grudges. But try dey do better next time, bro.

andrewbaba44:
You think you will win Barca this time

Mind you araujo didn’t play the ucl group stage ,he played only 1 game ,we lost almost all our CB for most of the games

If you like type newspaper ,araujo better pass all una defenders

Araujo is just a defender doing his job ,nothing consign am if he stopped vini or not ,he hardly speaks about vini ,vini is actually the one that called araujo the hardest defender he played against ,he is not of the most loved Barca player after pedri by even Madrid fans ,but continue your agenda against am because you parade bums

Why won’t Upa and de ligt make the bundesliga team of the season in a league called Bayernliga

Shame suppose catch you for that statement ,the bundesliga is just Bayern and no one else ,but here you are celebrating bums like ukpacannot defend and 80 million de ligt making team of the season ,if both cannot make team of the season na to close down that una league

"You won't beat us this time" No be so una dey always talk ever since you chop 8-2. We own your souls, bro! Anytime you come, you go collect.

You mean Araujo has played only one CL game these last two years? Wow! Excuses, excuses. . You said Upa and De Lift were useless, I countered your claim with their TOTY selection. Now e don turn Bayernliga. Next time, don't cap carelessly.

Araujo has done nothing to be rated over De Ligt and Upa. Maybe if he starts playing UCL knockout football, the story will be different

andrewbaba44:
How do you know he is a good person

You no well. Honestly, I can't really pinpoint how. WhodeyHause na nice guy. To God, i never see person like am before.

Culer:
omo, if gbarejo join I no go watch Barca match next season aswearugod

I don't think it's going to happen sha. He has the same profile as Gundogan and they are both around the same age. There's no practically no sense in having the two of them.

WhoDeyHause:
Sir there are many issues in life for me to be worked up over someone trying to mock me here cause I shared my personal travails. It won't stop me from doing so as nairaland is like a family to me even though it's online. Even andrewbaba that I dragged him and his club the most has never for once gone personal with me cause he understands it's just cruise and banter. KKilishihunter pmed him during the time I posted about my house collapse to help me with some cash though I told him not to worry even though it's his club I dragged the most. I try my best to limit my trolling to club and football matters but some of us will be waiting not just here but in all the threads to be using their personal issues against them. And the person in question trolls other clubs. ☹️.

Bro, I respect and admire you a lot. It takes a whole new level of bravery to be open on personal issues. You are a good person, man. It's a shame some people chose to use it against you. You are bigger than them, bro. God bless you.

andrewbaba44:
Danny Gbarejo is a good player no doubt ,but he should not near my club ,I repeat he should not near my club

Lmao. I love it and I think I deserve it. Your Gbarejo in Blaugrana colours. I will be there no matter what

andrewbaba44:
The last time I checked none of upamecano or de ligt have won the ucl

Since you celebrate mid performance ,congratulations on winning the I made it to the knock stage trophy

You almost bottled bundesliga because of those useless defenders and you get mouth to talk ?

Na Dortmund I blame

Araujo helped Barca win 2 trophies this season ,same can’t be said of your defenders ,oh sorry they helped you win the league for the 11th season on a roll ,even with kenneth omeruo and Calvin bassey you will still win that league

Ogun kill Dortmund

Last time I checked Upa and De Ligt have not led Bayern crashing out of the CL group stages back-to-back. When will Araujo play a Ro16 CL game, never mind SF? A player whose only claim to fame is "I stopped Vinicius" When he starts in a WC final or makes a Fifpro XI, abeg wake me up.

Upa and DeLigt were the reasons for us almost bottling the league, yet they made Bundesliga TOTY in one of our worst seasons. Just shattap! The same boys took turns delivering defensive masterclasses against your useless club last season. You better kneel when typing their names.

You should be thanking Dortmund for sparing you the anguish of facing your tormentors-in-chief again. A 3rd straight exit into Europa