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andrewbaba44:
Na me Dey cry but na you Dey hunt for agenda daily

I will wait for your new agenda because you always fail woefully

Talking about ojoro but always turn blind when Madrid cheated your team severally and kept dickriding them and made Barca you humiliated your enemy,you really love your oppressors who cheated you to win the ucl

Man flexing Covid 19 ucl where lyon that was poor in Ligue 1 made the semis 😂

Which agenda? I say things as I see them. If you no like am, na your wahala.

This guy, na Prime Barca we dey discuss. Na you go carry Bayern enter, now na Madrid. Na FergieRaww or Purpl, I dey follow talk ni? Real are actually a worthy opponent I respect. No be your yeye club we dey bitchslap everytime.

Lyon was poor but dem beat defending PL Champions Man City 3-1. If it was Bayern, we for no dey hear this story.

Kilishihunter:
Flawless Bayern that went home the next year in the quarters against psg when the tournament was reversed back to a 2 game knockout tie rather than the one game neutral matches you used to win, Thought the conversation was Barca under pep in 08-12, Even your Bayern collected during that period before coming to recruit pep of that same Barca side after his sabbatical

That Bayern team wasn't exactly the same when we met PSG the following season. We were missing Lewy, Gnabry. Our best 2 players the previous season. Choupo was the one leading our attack FFS. Goretzka sef no play. Las las, na the away goal rule wey dem don comot na im ja us.

PSG no be Bayern mate. This season, wey everybody dey, dem chop H and A.

Na Andrew carry Bayern enter the matter nau. I was only discussing Pep's Barca, na im digress. That was the worst Bayern in years and you still couldn't beat us home and away You know how many times you don collect H and A from us?

andrewbaba44:
Bayern 2020 Covid 19 ucl winners ,shame suppose catch you ,playing 1 leg games on neutral empty stadiums

Your Bayern 2020 wasn’t even close to Enrique Barca self

Person no see better ucl team flex ,na Covid 19

Firstly you tried down playing busquets ,now you enter prime Barca via mancity

You can keep whining about Covid. The conditions were the same for everybody. No be my fault say your useless team couldn't step up in the most demanding situations. We won every game from start to finish. 100%

Olodo, everybody knows straight knockout games are the trickiest. Anyone could have fluked a win and gotten to the next round. You think Lyon would have beaten City over 2 legs? They were literally finals before final. There was a reason UEFA briefly considered adopting this format, because it made things less predictable. You for even get small point, if too say the score lines were close in those games. We beat you 8-2, beat Lyon 3-0. Even the blind knew we were the best team in Europe.

You can continue to cry

popizaino:
I am not the one spinning anything. I’m just here for pushbacks before it will become the gospel truth. The fact that they couldn’t beat Chelsea of then does not mean they won’t injure this present man city after all this present man city can’t even dare that Chelsea side. Man city cannot beat any version of pep Barca not yesterday, today or next. They are inferior to any EPL top 4 side of 2007-2009. Facts only.

You mean that great Chelsea side of 2012 that finished 5th in the league? Pass me whatever you are smoking

Man City just completed a three-peat in the toughest era of English football, but they won't beat any top EPL side from 07-09. LMAO

andrewbaba44:
So it’s now by winning trophies flawlessly by not loosing any game and winning all away games

Agenda don make you and the person wey you quote Dey confused

Pep went over 3 years without winning a ucl away knock out game ,but always making it through to the semis and quarter at worst ,so what’s your point ?

When does a ucl away knockout game decided how good you are ,na who qualify by the end of the day we know

How many ucl did your Bayern won flawlessly since you where winning all away games flawlessly,na so you take win flawlessly drogba score 90 minutes equalizer and dem kill your with pk

Na so you take win Salzburg home and away flawlessly Villarreal sent you packing

You are all over the place, Andrew. Calm down We just dey peel the layers off your Prime Barca small by small. Bayern 2020 remains the most dominant CL-winning campaign in history. We were flawless, if that's the word you are looking for Even 2013 sef. We smashed a very strong Juve home and away and destroyed your club 7-0 No controversy, no ojoro.

Your club was at the center of the most disgraceful officiating in the history of the game. Yet, you go still dey beat your chest, dey shout Prime Barca. My friend, go and sit down.

BlueAngel444:
be honest Rice is pretty much above average considering the team he plays for. Was Rodri posting city numbers when he was at Atletico? Rice passing and build is good o

Rice is good. I just think his game still needs polishing.

Did you watch Rodri at Atleti or even Villarreal? The comparisons with Busquets didn't just start today. Rice's passing is improving and is decent. His defensive qualities are not in doubt, but how does he fit when he plays for a side that dominates possession and constantly face low-block oppositions? That would require extra coaching and some personal development on his part. Rice can get to that point, but I just feel at 100m, you should be getting the finished article, or someone with a crazy ceiling. Rice isn't any of those .

Capaldi:
Hyped above their actual ability. Very overated side that were lucky in Europe. Their away record in Europe was terrible yet they won't let us hear word about how great they are.

You would think they won all their trophies flawlessly without questionable officiating from the refs. Why you think say dem dey call dem UEFAlona that year. That away record funny ehn. Pep went over 3 years without winning an away CL knockout game. Make dem come lose first leg away, e done finish be that.

andrewbaba44:
Is it by going on beaten ,Tito vilanova did 100 points on mourinho head ,does that make his Barca team better than pep own ?

Ernesto velverde almost went on beaten with loosing only 1 game in a full Laliga season ,does that make them better than pep Barca ?

Didn’t arsenal run 49 games unbeaten?

This your logic self

The point I'm trying to make is if they didn't do all these, why carry dem for head like say dem dey invincible. Wetin dem do wey no team never do? Shey na tiki taka?

popizaino:
I mean the same man city that can’t beat Liverpool at Anfield even if their lives depended on it.

This man city can’t beat that Chelsea side or any top 4pl side so slow down on their hype.

Just listen to yourself. Anfield na playground wey everybody dey go there win? Liverpool were unbeaten for over 4 years on that ground for a reason. Mind you, Man City did win at Anfield, 4-1 in 2020. However you wan spin am, na you sabi.

Dey play. Just dey play.

andrewbaba44:
Pep man city might be the greatest premier league team of all time ,but prime Barca is easily clear of them

The way you dey talk about this Prime Barca, person go think dem do 100pts. Or dem go unbeaten in a league season? Or dem win CL 3 in a row. No worry, we go soon revisit this Prime Barca hype.

popizaino:
2011 Barca side did not contain a prime Ronaldo,a younger benzema,sharp Higuain and getting kicked left right center from Pepe and Sergio Ramos to be compared with a man city side that struggled against Lukaku.

FYI,this man city can’t stand SAF man united 2007 to 2009 side talk more of that 2011 Barca side.

You mean the same Barca side that couldn't beat Chelsea despite being two goals and a man up. LOL. Pep's Man City is already the greatest PL time of all time. No need to dey follow you argue that one.

andrewbaba44:
Mancity no fit win anything ,you think they parade lukaku and Martinez that cannot score to save themselves? I don’t think the defense Will be able to contain EL guaje let alone Messi

I saw the rubbish inter forwards did ,there is no way one of Pedro or Villa won’t get a brace with some sleeping performance from akanji /ake

Even Luis Enrique Barca with msn will beat this city

You are basing your assumptions on just the Inter game. What about how Pep's system shut down the second-greatest midfield duo the modern era has ever seen in Kroos and Modric. They were reduced to mere passengers. Even the final you are referring to, it was a switch of momentum after Man City took the lead. It wasn't like Inter were dominant and creating chances throughout the game.

Dem no fit contain Messi? We have seen Prime Messi get nullified several times. Chelsea did it on several occasions, Inter did it. Even Bayern did it. When everybody from Bernardo to Akanji no allow am breathe, naim you go know.

You think say Man City go wan go toe-to-toe with you? That 3241 system go open your nyash. Pep tried something similar in 2015 with Bayern with a less complete team and almost picked up a draw against MSN.

raumdeuter:
Hypothetical
Barcelona 2011 Man city 2023

Who wins

With Pep coaching both teams or not? 2023 Pep might help Man City nick this one. 2011 Pep go dey do tiki-taka, even in the face of defeat while this one no go mind park bus or go direct if the need arises. Barca are better on paper but Man City's grittiness go give them the edge. Man City wins 3-2

BlueMann:
Some random dude really posted a private Convo he had with Fabrizio on Twitter. Did it to troll him, turns out Fabrizio even cooked the dude in the Convo

The Fabrizio hate is too much honestly. Just too forced, too.

You see those fools on FT calling him names like 'tap-in merchant' like he doesn't drop exclusives. The guy is very good at what he does, and despite that he has not gone down the monetizing route like many would have done. This guy would answer needless transfer questions from random people, at odd hours.

Dem wan pull am down but God pass them.

Excallibur:
It's been how many hours now and no Nkunku moniker yet, Chelsea fans don dey slack o

Lmao. Maybe dem no wan jinx am. Havertz and Mudryk suppose tell you how e dey go.

BlueMann:
Germany don cast

Walahi. . Don't wanna be Hansi Flick right now. The guy head go dey hot. He might not make it to the Euros.

andrewbaba44:
Capello wey Dey implement tactics like septuagenarian then

They wasted their golden generation ,I think it was only the Spanish that have better talents than them then ,they weren’t even far apart

They have another golden generation now ,South Gate have done his best though ,they are only behind France and Portugal in terms of talent ,but i still think they won’t still win anything ,a tactically sound coach would have destroyed Italy at the euro 2020 final

This generation no Golden kan kan, maybe Bronzed sha Kane is the only true world-class player they have. Rashford, Sterling, Grealish are just pretenders. I have high hopes for Foden and Saka though.

England have been really good these last few years. It's just been a matter of getting over the line. Southgate dey try, even if most people won't agree.

andrewbaba44:
Maybe to set it up to suit Gerard ans lampard

England managers and their set ups sha ,South Gate don copy pep Dey play arnold for midfield

Even gareth Barry was more regular for the national team than carrick ,not taking anything away from Barry though

Michael carrick is one of the most underrated English player out there

Even me wey no be coach know say that setup no fit work. Lamps and Stevie G had similar profiles. It should have been one of them, not both. Their Golden Generation would have done a lot better, if they had better coaches. World-class talent from front to back. Just imagine someone like Klopp or even Tuchel handling that team. Na die.

Even the Capello they brought in was too old-school, dey carry 90's tactics when football was heading in another direction. Everybody dey try different systems, but England still dey play old-school 442.

Barry na your stereotypical hardworking, strong English midfielder. He had a bit of technique, but was nowhere near Carrick. Rice is the closest thing to him in today's England team.

andrewbaba44:
Carrick is good and very underrated ,but was never on busi levels 👌

Still wondered why he never won more than 34 caps for England in a 15 year period

England were obsessed with playing 8's and B2B midfield runners. Their stupid managers would try to shoehorn Scholes, Lampard Gerrard in their 442. going as far as playing Scholes at LM. Carrick was a different breed of DM, and the coaches couldn't see what was in front of them. If he was Spanish, he would get the same hype as Busquets. Even till today, Southgate still laments the dearth of ball-playing 6's in English football. The only one close enough is Rice, and his passing and build-up play is average.

Kilishihunter:
Pirlo that gattuso or matuidi was his bodyguard, busquets was both a deep lying playmaker and a defensive midfielder, Can we then put pirlo's defensive abilities besides busquets?
Oga You play too much eeh

The DM position covers two profiles, the destroyer/ ball-winner and the DLP/ Controller profiles. Busquets is more of a destroyer even though he has playmaking capabilities, which was more visible in his game in the latter stages of his career. Pirlo on the other hand was more of a DLP than a destroyer. They call them regista in Italy

Busquets was better than Pirlo defensively, but everything else Pirlo kill am.

andrewbaba44:
Na the same role Pirlo and busi Dey play

You don Dey call Carrick

Smh

Not the same role. The same position, defensive midfielder, no 6. Carrick was very good oh. No be everybody get the privilege of playing with Xaviesta.

Unlimited22:
Why's no one mentioning Xabi Alonso? 😏

Professor X! E never reach Baba turn nau. He was more of a CM, though he played as a deep-lying playmaker towards the end of his career. The tekkers on that man, OMG!

CAPdan21:
Busquets or Pirlo?...

You wan kill am ni? Pirlo wey dey follow Busquets Oga in Xavi drag naim you want compare am to. Carrick would have been fair competition.

popizaino:
Nobody,i repeat no fucking player is touching any version of Sergio Busquet under Pep Guardiola. If it was all about Pep guardiola evolving then there was Kevin Philips to have displace Rodri.

Your fanboyism no go allow you see road. You don already make up your mind, who am I to convince you otherwise?

Ibime:
The day they will catch Boehly for magomago won't be funny

I'm sure he is now on their radars after that stunt he pulled with Ugarte by disguising transfer fee as investment in Sporting Lisbon, this Paramount sponsorship thing and Saudi (who are Clearlake investors) conveniently buying all our unwanted players

Boli na madman sha

TLona1:
It does mean much.

The only reason Rodri will start over Busquests under Pep at Man City is age.

Pep will always use prime Busquests over Rodri anytime.

'Cos Pep told you so, abi? Make una just dey deceive unaself.

FirstbornWds:
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Dey play. Just dey play.

FirstbornWds:
Looks like you've forgotten that Busi was the DM that took this same Spanish team to the Semi final with Rodri languishing on the bench.. If he hadn't retired, you sure know he's not getting a starting shirt. Run agenda but at least, make am make sense.

The Nations League Finals is just a mere footnote on what Rodri has achieved this season. No be big deal. Busquets starting over Rodri is only the coach's preference, it doesn't mean much.

andrewbaba44:
Thiago and gbarejo are in their 30s ,I guess Jesus navas nacho are both in their early 20s ,or should I remind you of a certain Sergio canales ?

No Spanish national team coach have ever taken Thiago serious ,old players are mixed with the younger ones ,if the coaches are biased they won’t be calling players from brentford and relegated Leeds

Rodri played his part but busi didn’t do anything and was sleeping on the pitch

If you have prime Messi suarez Neymar as your forwards there is no way you are taking any individual award over any of them ,unlike when you parade Haaland that ghosted are the ucl finals or kdb that’s always injured( Not his fault )

And lastly the uefa champions league player of the season only started last season when benzema won the award firstly ,now rodri won the second version of the award you begin drag busquets for award wey no available during him time

You just Dey score own goals anyhow

All those coaches that snubbed Thiago all those years when e hot, wetin dem win?

No one said Busquets didn't do anything. The truth is Rodri had a bigger influence on his teams winning than Busquets ever did. It's not entirely impossible for DMs and CBs to outshine their more-fancied offensive team mates. Vvd beat Salah/Mane, Kante beat Hazard etc.

OK. Xaviesta comot, MSN comot, oya Busquets take center stage. Na back-to-back elimination from group stage Baba dey serve

We've had Ballon d'ors awarded retrospectively , we fit run our one for that award. I even made a case for Kante winning the one of 2021. Abeg, tell me which one would Busquets have won if it was available?

andrewbaba44:
ATM won Laliga ahead of Madrid and Barca after they sold rodri who was holding them back

The Spanish national team have changed their coach and we are yet to see the new coach call up world class players like Thiago alcantara and dani Gbarejo

Without busi rodri won’t have won the nations league

Now show me rodri international trophy without alba and morata ?

Show me rodri club trophies without KDB

Jorginho won the European footballer of the year ,show me a Bayern midfielder for the past 15 years dead or alive that won that award ?

Spain won euros 2008 without busi ,and when busi entered the team they won the World Cup ,that shows he upgraded them ✅

Now when last did a Bayern midfielder for the past 15 years won the European footballer of the year like Jorginho ?

Dem calm down. If you wan run agenda, at least make it make sense. Rodri only played for one season at ATM, so how can you say he was the one holding them back when they didn't win the league the previous 4 seasons before he joined.

Thiago and Parejo are in their 30's, no serious coach will want to start his era calling up old players that were not part of the previous setup. All this, show x trophy without y players is just nonsense. Rodri played his part in his team winning those trophies as evidenced by his individual honors. He wasn't carried. So that agenda is DOA.

popizaino:

I know you are playing that’s why i won’t be wasting time to debunk this. But let me say something that mirrors this thing, no matter the amount of rings LBJ wins he will never be greater than Micheal Jordan.There is nothing on earth Rodri does better than Busquet talk more of doing better than him.

LBJ doesn't even have more rings than MJ. If he did, the GOAT debate would have definitely taken a different dimension.

Make una dey there dey hold on to rigid beliefs when the world around you is changing.

Kilishihunter:
Rodri was not even as polished with his passing when he was under Simeone then, he was more of a typical physical ball winner though some will make the argument he played under Simeone's tactics, Became more polished under pep understandably, He's stronger, a better defender and a better long range hitman than busi but anything passing, tempo dictating, positioning and tactical fouling (Check his seasonal volume of yellow cards if in doubt) busi edges ahead, reason why he had to either sit on the bench or play CB for la roja whenever the other was available before his subsequent retirement, Busquets wey to find him replacement don turn jamb question at Barça

Which passing? Rodri tops him in both passing volume and accuracy. I don't want to make a big deal of assists, as it is secondary to their job, but Rodri still beats him, showing he is the better ball progressor. Rodri is a bigger threat at set-pieces and has a knack for scoring clutch goals. Abeg, wetin remain?