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IT is so clear that the Early church celebrated Lord's Supper not Christ birth. ( Acts 2:42-46; I Cor. 11:20-22)(Acts 20:7) (I Cor. 10:16) (I Cor. 11:24, 25).

This is supposed to be an ordinance of the Church, ordained by Jesus as obedient act of remembrance.
An act of commemoration, collective and corporate act of church and not an individualistic act as @Zikkyy claim.

Jesus said, do this in remembrance of Me, a memorial observance and not an observance like Xmas where people take loan to buy expensive clothes live a flamboyant life for just few days, not the chop chop table for just a day, or going to night parting etc..etc.

The truth is that, Christmas has no Spiritual feelings, its fakeness is obvious. The observance of Christ death flows with a good feeling, and this is felt within the brethren in the presence of God. No Scriptural guarantees that God is in the presence of Christmas. Or does a celebrant has one?

1 Corinthians 11:29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.


We are not to partake "unworthily" in the observance of Christ's death. We are to examine our mind-set, attitudes, motives before doing it.
This observance is Scripturally guided. Its not a thing you just decide to observed like Christmas.

Any being can be a celebrant of Xmas. Atheist, Pagan and christians, they all do the chop chop stuffs in common without guidance.

Observing Christ's death is an act of proclamation. As oft as u eat...you proclaim the Lord's death.
Its the moment Christians proclaim they are believers in the efficacy of Christ's death, resurrection and life.
We do proclaim the Lord's death until He comes:

1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
Is there a similar Scripture to show for birth (Christmas)? Clelebrants if you have one let us read it.

The while lies told about Jesus's birth was a disobedient act and pretence in loving the Lord.
Business, commercial partiners are promoters of Christmas today. Those who seek the truth knows that scripture gave enough instruction on what to observed, this should be enough.

(1 cor 10 20-21)No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.

Rom 1:25 25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

Adding to the Scripture is disobeying the law, Deut 4 2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.
The warning was repeated:
Deut 12 32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

prob 30: 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Rev 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,

Borrowing or modifying a Pagan culture/traditon to please God is contraditing the Scripture. This is men tradition.

jeremiah 10 2-3 This is what the Lord says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations (copy from pagan)
or be terrified by signs in the sky,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3For the customs of the peoples are worthless; (thier traditons/feast)
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.

Brethren...follow biblical examples on feast/celebrations, there is much fun in them than these pagan holidays.

See what christians follow:

Deities of Yule:

All Newborn Gods, Sun Gods, Mother Goddesses, and Triple Goddesses. The best known would be the Dagda, and Brighid, the daughter of the Dagda. Brighid taught the smiths the arts of fire tending and the secrets of metal work. Brighid's flame, like the flame of the new light, pierces the darkness of the spirit and mind, while the Dagda's cauldron assures that Nature will always provide for all the children.

Symbolism of Yule:

Rebirth of the Sun, The longest night of the year, The Winter Solstice, Introspect, "Planning for the Future".

ymbols of Yule:
Yule log, or small Yule log with 3 candles, evergreen boughs or wreaths, holly, mistletoe hung in doorways, gold pillar candles, baskets of clove studded fruit, a simmering pot of wassail, poinsettias, christmas cactus.

Herbs of Yule:
Bayberry, blessed thistle, evergreen, frankincense holly, laurel, mistletoe, oak, pine, sage, yellow cedar.

Foods of Yule:

Cookies and caraway cakes soaked in cider, fruits, nuts, pork dishes, turkey, eggnog, ginger tea, spiced cider, wassail, or lamb's wool (ale, sugar, nutmeg, roasted apples). [s]for Nigeria na rice and stew...chop chop [/s]

Incense of Yule:
Pine, cedar, bayberry, cinnamon.

Colors of Yule:
Red, green, gold, white, silver, yellow, orange.

Stones of Yule:
Rubies, bloodstones, garnets, emeralds, diamonds.

Activities of Yule:
Caroling, wassailing the trees, burning the Yule log, decorating the Yule tree, exchanging of presents, kissing under the mistletoe, honoring Kriss Kringle the Germanic Pagan God of Yule

Spellworkings of Yule:
Peace, harmony, love, and increased happiness. [s]According to xmas celebrants, this is the period they truelly can increase in love drag pagans to Christ, so what's wrong in christmas? is thier usual question:[/s] THE PAGAN ORIGIN, INFACT, THE PAGAN EVERYTHING!

Deities of Yule:
Goddesses-Brighid, Isis, Demeter, Gaea, Diana, The Great Mother. Gods-Apollo, Ra, Odin, Lugh, The Oak King, The Horned One, The Green Man, The Divine Child, Mabon.

For more, visit the link...http://wicca.com/celtic/akasha/yule.htm

Ephesians 5:11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

Proverbs 1:10 My son, if sinners entice you, do not give in to them.

2 John 1:11 Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.

See how the Yule alter looks like, no difference from Christmas one.
Every Christmas celebrant in the West wen never build this alter at home, e never start, the real sulture must take its place.

And what about the concept of the infamous Santa Claus himself . His story is ripe with magickal elements.
Eventually, he is a semi-deity who lives in a magickal dimension on the northern fringes of the human world accompanied by a bevy of miraculous toy making beings and flying creatures. Though Santa tradition is not very old in and of itself, the idea of powerful house spirits who bear gifts and good fortune goes back to the very beginning of time in almost every culture.
In some cultures, particularly in "Eastern Europe" and Japan, these house spirits are still widely venerated in the modern world.
See picture of santa, And later i will post on "Saint Nicolas", you must know alot of activities are accurs during this holidays.
They are all rooted from paganism. Not from the Scripture, why join them in this celebration?

Check this link for more fine fine pictures..
http://www.freegreatpicture.com/christmas/santa-claus-28025

More christmas (yule) ancient symbols/activities you can see in today's Christmas:

Zikkyy, see picture of the ancient yule log and the modern one designed as Christmas cake...chop chop (jk)

Pending on your location, You might not ve ever noticed how many anthropomorphic figures are around each Christmas time!
Let me just name a few,: Gingerbread men, snowmen, figurines of angels, the nativity characters and Santa and his crew: ther re hundreds of thousands of little simulacra of people associated wit the Christmas and new yr.

And while such representations of humanity may seem common place in Zikkyy todays society, for thousands of yrs and indeed still in some cultures such things were and are forboden.(recall what @troguun wrote previewsly) From the ancient so-called Venus figurines of prehistoric Europ to the statues of the classical world, the recreation of the human form was considered sacred and powerfull.

From the helpful elf who watches over children’s good behavior to the angels atop the tree; these personifications of the human form and spirit are no less powerful if one chooses to believe in them. Christmas is drawing closer, Kids must behave well in order to have gifts from an unknown being. Kids are innocent, they are made to believe everything about Christmas. What a lie in the name of celebration Christ birth He never commanded at the first place.

truthislight: you're on your own.

Seems you did not get the significan of what the bible says.
See:

"For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope." (Romans 15:4).

You missed that ^^^ ?

You are on your own.

This is what you are supposed to do but you failed:

Hebrews 13:7 :

Remember your leaders(faithful men of old) who spoke the word of
God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of
life imitate them"

sorry my friend, it goes beyond your "debunk" of a thing.
Peace

ZIKKYY THINK SAY E LIKE THE CHOP CHOP THING PASS ME BEFORE,

That was a good scripture for him there!

Zikkyy:What truth? Your truth or God’s truth? All you have done is show your version of the truth. You know some of us read deep and are quite difficult to confuse. Your shallow attempt at showing Christmas as a pagan practice is not convincing. There are areas where you showed that you lacked proper understanding of the argument you are putting forward. You will need to do better to convince me. You guys approach gives the impression you are arguing from a checklist. Maybe “the JW’s guide to criticizing xmas” version 1.0 When an item on your checklist is debunked, you move on the next item on the list without any serious attempt at proving your point. Maybe I should provide a summary of the anti-xmas arguments (those I can remember) and show how you guys failed.

I did not put fort my words but that of the scripture. It just shows it's against men tradition, Christmas is a tradition that is been handed down by a human being like you and me, It was not and will never be supported by the Scripture. now tell me, is this not a tradition of man? or do you have ur own definition of "men traditon"?

Zikkyy: 2. Birthdays in the bible were associated with negative things: DEBUNKED! By Zikkyy I showed that birthday was also associated with positive activities by reference to Joseph. You did not come back with anything serious

It shows you did not see when i adressed this. I SAID if you claim God used the birthday as a means for Joseph then you are equally saying He uses Herod's birthday for John the Baptise what was positive in the Herod's account? God is not a part in birthday celebration, He has always rescue His children in His own ways, do not validate birthday with Joseph"s freedom.
Birthday or not, God will always react when it Pleases Him. Maybe you should also say that the Butler pleases God thats why He was released and promoted unlike the Baker that was hated and killed! You should know that Joseph faithfully served Pharoah and for this He got rewarded by God (in keeping with 1 Peter 2:18)

zikkyy: If celebrating his birth was relevant Jesus would have mentioned it: DEBUNKED! By Zikkyy If it was a sin Jesus would also not have forgotten to mention it. When you read my counter argument, all you guys do is move on to the next item on the JW’s checklist. You people take the bible as a checklist that contains every action a man will take his lifetime, and we know that is not true. The bible is a guide and should be used as one.

There is no party on birthday of Christ in the Bible, Christ did not forget anything, He gave us enough of what He wants us to do until He returns. This whole celebration of birthday began through "human tradition" as previewsly stated.
History has proven Dec 25 that is tagged as Christ date of birth, was the birthday of Mithra, the god of light/Sun.
It also proved that it was the Roman that re-assigned the meaning to the "birthday of Jesus. From Sun to Son. What have you to debunk?

Zikkyy: 4. Bible commanded against traditions of men: DEBUNKED! By Zikkyy that statement is very false! What Christ was against was a tradition that is elevated above the commandment of God. Christ did not condemn the tradition of washing hands before taking meal; he countered the argument of the Pharisee by reference to another tradition that has been elevated above the commandment of honoring your parents. This was to show their hypocrisy. Some traditions are good and some are bad. The tradition that the Apostles were against are those that will lead you away from Christ, and that is the angle of argument that will make sense to me. But as expected you guys move on to the next item when shown that your argument makes no sense.

I did not put fort my words but that of the scripture. It just shows it's against men tradition, Christmas is a tradition that is been handed down by a human being like you and me, It was not and will never be supported by the Scripture. now tell me, is this not a tradition of man? or do you have ur own definition of "men traditon"?

And you think CHRISTMAS IS OF CHRIST? WHAT GUARANTEED YOU THAT GOD IS ALWAYS THERE? SCRIPTURE PLEASE!

Zikkyy:5. Xmas has pagan origin: DEBUNKED! By Zikkyy we have shown that it was Christians that instituted xmas. Were the saturnalia worshippers celebrating xmas prior to the time the church made it a feast? The answer is NO. So what made xmas a pagan origin? With nothing to say, you move on the next item on your list

Zikky, The early church did not celebrates XMAS(Christ birth) but the Lord's Supper. ( Acts 2:42-46; I Cor. 11:20-22)
There is an origin of Christ death observance from the bible, and an origin of His birth observance from man.

acts 2: 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

I Cor. 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

I believe this thread has given enough scriptures that do not surpport celebrating Christ birth but His death... and not once a year, but every meeting through the Lord's Supper. (Acts 20:7) (I Cor. 10:16) (I Cor. 11:24, 25).

6. Some pagan activities were carried along in the celebration of xmas: DEBUNKED! By Zikkyy I showed you how xmas is practice in church today (based on my understanding anyway),

Christmas custom will remain pagan, You zikkyy can't change this. The Eastern star that is associated with the Nativity story, and its derivative decorative value over the holidays is an element of older cults which was refashioned to suit monotheistic needs.
Some of its greatest usage is attached to ancient mother goddess cults, including that of the goddess Asherah.
All churches houses in the WEST use this Star till date. Many other nature symbols, like snowflakes, the tree and poinsettias, which are also associated with the holidays were likewise used in older pagan cults. Do reseach bros.
I when you say these are no longer in used in todays Christmas when we see them everywhere.
When addressing Christmas, you should try and do better by generalising it, mind you, This feast was not originated from Nigeria.

7. 25 December is a pagan date: DEBUNKED! By Zikkyy I honestly don’t see the relevance of this line of argument.

You have my reply for this already!

8. Xmas tree is pagan origin: DEBUNKED! By Zikkyy we have shown that God made everything for our use.

God did not make them for us to use them wrongly the way they are used today ...You are running away from the gospel truth facing you. Scriptures has been posted here for this, but Zikkyy has to debunk evrythin including Himself....

CLAP FOR YOURSELF ZIKKYY, YOU HAVE MADE UR NAME IN THE GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORD BY DEBUNKING HISTORY AND THE SCRIPTURE .HOW PROUD YOU FEEL NOW...? I will address ur long post later, am on phone so I can't quote you now.

Goshen360: And nobody has been able to establish from the scripture that crossing legs while in worship place is wrong; mind you we are the church, not the building. If a Christian sister feels or thinks she sit carelessly sometimes and decides to cross her legs in order to prevent "exposure" what is wrong in that for God's sake? If we are going to prove something is wrong, then I think we should establish such truth from the scripture not by sentiments.

GBAM !!!!

Image123: you dey laugh, this must truly be a new year. BTW, which one be bros+madam? i thought we borrowed 'madam' from your side, so you should know better?
happy new year madame

Na every time I see bros image123, na laugh dey catch me...

You dey forget say na everything you write up there you borrow? No one be you own...

Madame = ma dame = my lady, how am I your lady? You no see plappville to call me? You see, until you stop pointing at errors here, you will continue to end up in errors.
Me no do new yr. But thanks!

[quote author=tpia@]she's been told severally by people, including her mum.

she needs to make an effort to listen.[/quote]No probs, she is learning more from NL....

Image123: is my response anyway suggesting that i am Jesus? Tell the op to ask Jesus, He's the head teacher of the doctrine in question.

YES IT SOUNDs YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT JESUS HAS TO SAY....OYA, ANSWER THOSE KWESIONS PLZZZ.

When question pass question confusion is always the answer. Laughing....at the quote

joe4christ: [size=15pt]I dont know the actual Jesus you're following, but i sincerely doubt if it's the Jesus of the bible, cause you aint producing the fruits of the spirit, atleast i cant sense it in your writings.
Then i get tempted to question who you really are, are you really a son of God who is suffering from misconsception of biblical principles, terms and meaning or an agent of darkness sent in here to decieve and harden the mind of many believers by turning their heart against God without even knowing it.
Which are you mr frosbel?
Cos i'm kinda confused right now about what to think of you! [/size]

So na you dey decide who dey follow the right Jesus Abi?

ambrosini593: . What is so bad about celebrating the birth of Jesus. If christmas is bible based or not, we all agreed that Jesus was born. He doesn't have to tell us to celebrate his birthday or death before we do. In as much as we celebrate it because we want to remind ourselves why he came to this world. Mind you Jesus was not born on Christmas day, christmas was coined from two words Christ and Mass. It is a way or service of remembering Jesus. I have a question for you. Since you only want to do the things in the bible alone. Where in the bible did jesus said you should buy a car, build a house, buy Tv, use the internet. These are product of man`s initiative. It is the same initiative man used setting up a day for Jesus birthday celebration. please there things and date will need to set for ourselves. Thank you

Did the Church commanded this things u listed in accordance to God worshiping? Did the pope say the world should buy a car or plan to celebrate Christ NO. These are common materials/properties for man use. CHRIST DID USED THE BOAT/CANOE , HE USED MONEY, , CLOTHES. Its not thesame initiative my broda. There is enough example to follow in the bible, why adding to it? It seems you do not trully seek the truth. I have no time in repeating words. Plz visit that thread. The brethren did some good work there, I think you may find helpful.

Image123: it's 'stand still' madame

Bros...I dey use phone, e no mean if the stand join body with the still na? (madam) image...123....

[quote author=tpia@]its a question of context.

in the nightclub, you're expected to cross your legs or sit with your underwear in free show, but when going to church, people would like to be able to concentrate or at least follow the service without unnecessary arrogant distraction.


you can cross your legs at the ankles if you cant do without it, and if there's enough leg roiom for that, but it still wouldnt necessarily portray a good image of you.


when in rome, do as the romans, is the standard practice.

why is it always women with these issues?

@ op

their telling you these things is part of home training.[/quote]Home training should be done at home not in the church... ; D; D; D

Omo Alata: Of course if you steal, you sin

Hahaha....that was smart of you, l mean standstill..

Rich4god: [s]Sorry i have to add to your thread to make it easy fo me.[/s]
@1... We rejoice on this day for our saviour came into the world to redeem us. It could be any other day. Mind you that there are some orthordox churches that are in full communion with the RCC that celebrates theirs on 7th Jan(not sure if am right with the date)
@2... We give thanks to God every day/minute/hour/seconds. We dont celebrate new year, but we give thanks to God for giving us the grace to see another year. For the catholics, there is a Solemnity that we celebrate on 1st january, even the new year it at the background. But am not saying that we (catholics) dont recognise (rejoice in)the new year.
@3... We have nothing to do with Halloween. We observe all saints day, a day catholics/orthordox churches honor those who have made it to eternal by their way of life. Mind you, there is no specific person or people, its covers everyone that lead a good life.
@4.... The ressurection of our Lord.
@5... This is more of a social thing, but in christian perspective, there is nothing bad in given thanks to God for adding one year to your. Mind you, we thank God for life everyday, but on this day, if you go for thanksgiving and say God i thank you for making me a year older, i didnt see anything bad in it.

FOLLLOW THE LIKE FOR CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR. We will creat thread for saints day (Halloween) its something. Christian call it saint day, pagan call it Halloween. Christian call Christmas pagan is Yule. Same for Easter etc...

Kevwyben: Would it not be better to back up your arguments with the scriptures and other verifiable historical sources?

I see those against the observance of the festivals have provided some(though would like to see more), I would like those in support of the celebrations to provide scriptural proof as well.The bible I believe should be the authority here not human feelings/ preferences.

Anyway that's just me saying, I prefer making decisions based on logical arguments that can be proven and I will be making my own research as well since it is a waste of energy running an errand if I have not been sent. So why celebrate if its not bible-based.
Meanwhile I'll like those who already know to educate others from the SCRIPTURES.

This has treated it, at the end, it covers New year origin with a link to follow for more details. Needless repeating something over and over again.

https://www.nairaland.com/1140240/christians-trace-history-feastival#13502624

gst101: i am still asking withnesses. What comes to your heart each time you read the biblical passages narrating the birth of jesus? What does the HOLY SPIRIT (if you believe and reverence him at all) tell you when you reas the story of the birth of jesus in the bible.

Does the story illustrates birthday? A king was born and got gifts this was not repeated yearly. The tradition then was to present gift to Kings when visiting him. Jesus was not called infant or baby when the wise men visited him. The scripture says, the *,Child* Does this means they brought the gifts the day he was born or at his 1st birthday He got gifts because he was born King nothing like birthday. Go to the link I presented, you will see this has been treated. Birthday in the bible etc....

[quote author=tpia@]everything does not have to have a logical explanation, and neither are you entitled to one all the time.

learn to follow simple instructions even if you dont agree with them, as long as they're not inimical to your being.[/quote]The thing be say, there will soon be instruction on how you move ur body when praying, stand steal or u sin....

The bible did not tell us how to sit, stand, or lie or walk. But It says every wrong doings is a sin, and not all sin leads to condemnation. If you feel its wrong you should stop it. But I think we should try to know if this isa tradition.

Health wise, it is not advisable especially for women to cross their legs for some of these reasons: Poor circulation: it is said that this can interfere with heart problems and cause pain in the legs. Hip stability; The hips have a natural aliment. crosing your legs is not natural. This can cause wear and tear on the joint. Back pain: can cause lower back pain. The spine has three natural curves and when you sit crossed legged some tend to shift their body weight taking the spine out of ailment also.

Crossing of leg is a habit. Some people feel more comfortable doing it. Others no. Some believed it's polite. If we look at the side effect according to Doctors, its best to stop such habit that could damage one's health.

ambrosini593: . The churches mentioned above they all celebrating new year. Read the topic of this thread again. It says xmas and new year. It think you JW don't even celebrate anything. Even your own birthday, holidays etc.

Now ask yourself one question, what exactly is men tradition Jesus and his apostles warns the church to beware of? Does CHristmas, New year, Saints day (Halloween) Easter and even birthday falls in these traditions we are to beware of? But if they are scriptural, this means they are Gods traditions, but if they are not, you should now do yourself good by searching the source of their origin. This may be a good beginning for you. Than thinking JW ARE ON THIER OWN ON THIS ISSUES.

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Ymodulus: Are U for real?
Are u aware to this day catholic are deeply involve in pagan activities?
what will u call the kneeling down to that carved ceramic u guys call holy mary? is dat not pagan acts?
Are u aware catholics are the real problem to christian of today?

Are u aware catholics brought in lies thousands of lies to proppagate their message?o


my friend get ur facts right before saying things for your info this set of christians dont celebrate Xmas.

1. Latter day saint
2. 7th day adventist
3. Jehovahs witness
4. Messianic
5. fundamentalist megachurch
6. Amish/Mennonite groups
7. Worldwide Church of God
under founder Herbert Armstrong
and his son Garner Ted Armstrong
did not celebrate Christmas,
Easter, or even birthdays

8. puritans under Oliver
Cromwell
9. and so many odas dont clbrate christmas. so pls get your facts right.
also google search on d origin of christmas and read for yourself.
even d catholic encyclopedia admits it well that jesus was not born on 25th or do u call me a liar?





mr i didnt lie against your idolised pope. see the links below.
it was wikileaks cable exposion on how the pope neva wanted turkey in eu.


http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2010/dec/10/wikileaks-pope-turkey-eu-muslim


or do u still call me a liar?
before u idolise your pope get to know him better.


FINALLY ARE YOU A LEARNER? chukwudi your stupidity is taking over you. ignorant catholic.

dont insult me next time.

@OP, did you see this? THE JW ARE NOT THE ONLY eye opened Christians...there many more outside this list. I advise you study your bible with open mind. Similar issues has been discussed recently, take a look.

This thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/1140240/christians-trace-history-feastival#13512419

DANILSA: HOPE I DID JUSTICE TO UR QUESTION OP IN HIS CHRISTMAS MESSAGE PASTOR CHRIS OHYAKILOME SAID JESUS WAS NOT BORN ON 25TH DECEMBER BUT THAT IT SHOULD NOT STOP MEMBERS FROM CELEBRATING IT. SO DO YOUR RESEARCH WELL NEXT TIME.NTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

*MEN TRADITION * , IF THIS IS NOT IN THE PRACTICE INITIATED BY THE APOSTLES OR CHRIST HIMSELF, THEN ITS THE KIND OF TRADITIONS JESUS WARNS AGAINST. *but* e no mean, hahaha....how many will miss it!!

true2god: Guy remember in the 'is jesus really an arch-angel michael' thread u called frobel a fool for not supporting ur opinion on the matter. I hope he is no longer a fool for 'dubunking' the doctrine of hell fire.

You and this Archangel thread sef...na waooh....! You and Frosbel are delaying the hosting, @pastormuswac is waiting for you.....

Joagbaje: Who asked for your response dude? Just shut the door and waka.

This thread na tough one ooo...

Let me be viewing from side line small small.....

Frosbel plz fight this crazy lie that has been harassing many minds...
Am subscribing

adultebony: If you believe this crap then you'll believe anything...

Everything that people say or do, good or bad, has fruits. Bo wonder the Scripture says'( by thier fruit ye shall know them... Matthew 7:16 & 20)
The fruits of Christmas are terrible. A season that leads the entire year in adultery, loneliness, jealousy, drunkenness and drunk driving,
family arguments and accumulation of debt that often lasts until march or may. How long shall you continue to adopt a plain lie?

The prophet Isaiah wrotes: Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

As faras this thread is concern, some of us have done according to this Scripture.
Now that you have read the PLAIN TRUTH about the true "origin of Christmas", what will you do?

Continue to keep it or let it go? the chioce is your!