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Let me start by saying that i have no political affiliation whatsoever. Having said that, it is not very difficult to know how old the op is. People like him should be totally ignored. I feel very sorry for him cos he's even taking pride in his state of absolute stvpidity. High level politics is a game of diplomacy. You don't like the next man, yet you smile at each other. You criticize constructively, not like a gutter fellow. But it's always very difficult for a child like him to understand that.

@op, i promise you, if you give a reply to this post, i wont respond back. So just bury up your head in shame.

kayswag100: Hehehehehe

Toddler, then drown in your ignorance!!

U seem unintelligent. I never said I lived in Asokoro or Asokoro was empty.

Where I worked in Asokoro is no damn business of yours ok?

... and continue in your prevarication.

Mr 1-in-30 that knows every household in Asokoro.

btw, it's just evening where I am so I see who has over shot his bedtym.

Oh wow! I give you. How did I get myself into this? You're even having a hard time comprehending English language. I said 'people like you' damn. I didn't say you live in Asokoro.

I guess this is where the saying that 'ignorance is bliss' holds true.

I'm sorry for engaging you. You're not worth it. I give up.

Lol @ 'u seem unintelligent'. Taking pride in stark ignorance. Typical 4th grader. Very funny.

PS: Don't expect any more response from me. I've already given up on you. You're way out of your league. You need to stay thankful to nairaland, you never would have thought you'd cross part with me. You can rant from now till eternity, you won't get a response.

kayswag100: Well well well! won what?

seems the kid has moved on From falsehood to abuse!! won't resort to that if I were u!!!

Since everything seems as rocket science to you,

recall: u authoritatively said 1 in 30 houses is empty in Asokoro; all the houses there are worth billions. Again, you are incorrectly buttressing the opinion (OP's)that abj is a city of empty houses.

stop spreading falsehood toddler!!! Also take tym out to knw what 'coherence' means.

ciao!

SMH, too many juvys on nairaland this days. I don't even know why i didn't ignore this kid right from the start. You are incorrigible. Everyone who has truly lived or been to abuja on this thread gave credence to what the op was lamenting about except you. I still stand by my statement. 1 in 30 mansions in Asokoro is in use. And yes, its an authoritative statement because i live here. Just because people like you illegally occupy an 'arrangee' charlet in the district, does not mean all the houses in Asokoro are in use.

And hey, you forgot to tell us where exactly in Asokoro you worked. Or did your uncle's friend tell you about the district? I dare you to tell us where in Asokoro you worked.

As for the meaning of 'coherence', i guess you need to ask for a refund from your school. Get yourself a dictionary and don't be too embarrassed when you eventually know the meaning. Next, you check for the meaning of 'incoherent'. After that, consider this statement... ALL CITIES IN THE WORLD HAVE EMPTY/DESERTED/OVERPRICED HOUSES/ESTATES but i'm fighting someone who said Asokoro is empty.

Now, run to your room and get yourself tucked into your bed. It's past your bed time.

kayswag100: ... again, I find GST 102 handy here.

'a single/isolated event doesn't determine the outcome of larger events'

I refuse to drown in an ocean of falsehood! !!!

I think this should be like the 5 th tym id say this.:

ALL CITIES IN THE WORLD HAVE EMPTY/DESERTED/OVERPRICED HOUSES/ESTATES.

check up FORESHORE ESTATE IN BANANA ISLAND; lekki estates, vgc et al. Would that make me call lagos a city of empty /overpriced houses?

I preach pragmatism not falsehood

Boy what are you trying to achieve from this back and forth? Win? Okay, now you've won. Happy? Good! But the question is, win what exactly?

I still do not understand why you pride yourself in stark ignorance. Plus have you noticed how incoherent you are?

I want to believe you were in your right minds when you made the statement below:

ALL CITIES IN THE WORLD HAVE EMPTY/DESERTED/OVERPRICED HOUSES/ESTATES

And yes you are absolutely correct. And I only buttressed that by stating what is going on around here in 'Asokoro'. Not the whole of Abuja. So my question is, what is your argument based on exactly? That asokoro cannot be empty or what? I just do not get it.

Just remember, no matter how long you worked in your cubicle office in Asokoro, you were still a passerby. Plus where exactly did you work? Banana republic?

kayswag100: ... then I leave thee in thine falsehood! !

Going by your information, 1 in 30; 3 in 90; 6 in 180 and so on. That would make asokoro a GHOST TOWN!!!

I agree I'm an outsider and just worked there for a couple of yrs but at least I know what I saw and didn't Lie to prove a point.

I'm out! !

Well like I said before, I won't argue with you. But here is a recent personal occurrence from which, I believe you could get enlightened.

I flew into Abuja few days before Xmas only to find some dudes living comfortably in one of my family properties. They were shocked to their bones to see me. You can tell they knew what they were doing was illegal from the look on their faces. I kept my cool and told them I give them 24 hours to evacuate the building or I'll have them arrested which they did.

2 days fast forward, I revisited the issue and summoned the man in charge of the building, well as expected he feigned ignorance and put the blame on the gateman and immediately fired him.

I wasn't there for that kinda scene, so it didn't really bother me. But just this last Sunday, I was in church chatting around with some old friends, then I raised the topic, narrated the whole charade, to my surprise, they all laughed and went on to say 'na normal thing bro. Oh you've not around. It's a common practice among the gatemen in the area now'. I felt so 'old school'.

So what am I trying to show you from this? Asokoro mansions are so empty to the extent that gatemen sees that as an avenue to enrich themselves. Oh did I add the part where I learnt that these dudes pays as much as N400k? And there is a mutual understanding between the gatemen and the illegal occupants that the real owner may show up anytime and money is non refundable? It's almost an industry on its own in Asokoro now.

So because we have so many 'arrangee' occupants in the district does not make Asokoro less empty. I guess you may need to call your acquaintances around here to confirm that. Despite all these, majority of the houses are still empty.

kayswag100: chap, the fact that u know the whole asokoro and have stayed there for 50 yrd doesn't make 1 in 30 houses empty. That's A PURE LIE. DO NOT MISLEAD PPL.

btw, I also worked there for yrs!!

Look, I do not need to go on arguing with you. This is my area and I have no intention of bad-mouthing it, but the fact is the fact. So I'll pardon you cos it's obvious you know nothing about what you speak.

Like I said before, unlike you who was just a passerby here, I have been here for 13 good years of my life. My family houses are still here. My church is here, I still keep an office suite at Asokoro shopping mall and all. So there is no point arguing with an outsider.

christ4mi: Shhhhh! Asokoro is still a big place u can't say u know every house in Asokoro, don't try me on this I can prove u wrong hands down. If u think u move into Asokoro in 2000, I grow up in Asokoro New capital was my primary schl, community secondary schl was my secondary schl.

Well I wouldn't want you to call me out on that one, as I flew back into Abuja to see a lot of changes and more empty mansions. A lot of demolition along kpuduma and more construction work going on, so there's no way I'd know the owners of these projects but I was only trying to show him how rooted I am around here and still the fact is the fact. Even worse off, we have more empty mansions than before

kayswag100: ... and yet another fallacy.

folks PLEASE do not trust all pieces of information gotten from NL POSTS. This ↑is a classic example.

gosh!!!

*pukes*

Look kiddo, this is my 13th year in Asokoro, my family moved in 2000, so I'm giving you first hand information here, not 'some my uncle told me' kinda ish.

I will ask u to point to any house in Asokoro and I will tell you the real owner. The family name and the names of the family members. I can even go as far as giving you some contact info as most of us grew together. So you don't wanna go there with me.

I am not talking about any other district, but Asokoro, don't go about arguing with me.

This is the story of Asokoro, come to asokoroa and see the real meaning of empty mansions. 1 out of 30 mansions in Asokoro is occupied. True story and these are houses worth billions each

I wear Tom Ford black orchid and Terre d'Hermes. Funny my daughter busted the black orchid just yesterday morning. Felt like slapping her

deols: Many countries achieved greatness by measures like this.

Nigerians need to stop being cynical.

The pains of today shall be the gains of tomorrow

Yes true but not when the people inflicting the pains on you are being driven about in 250million cars and have more than 10 private jets on their hanger. Needless to talk about their annual feeding allowance being more than most people's entire life's dream.

Think, think, think. You have to lead by example and not just put people who are already in pains in more pain while you live in opulence wealth. That's not how to 'Lead'. It is rather called 'Ruling'.

You want people to sacrify for the future? I say you start the sacrifice.

He didn't necessarily do anything morally wrong, he only broke the first and the most important law of a secret cult, cabal, oligarchy, corrupt government which is; Never tell on us. He has broken the law and he must pay right?

This administration does not care about Nigeria, it only care about the 'Family'. The cabal. Classic case of oligarchy ruling. I only pity the worthless and useless ones among you who only go out there to waste your time and vote, just to have a sense of belonging for once in the country, believing that your vote counts. Think Nigeria, think.

You come out here spewing trash as if you are Nigerians. Nigeria does not have a population of 160 million. The real population of Nigeria is not up to 1 million. Nigeria rather has 159 million slaves. Why do you think they always tell investors about the abundance of 'cheap labor' in the land? Think Nigeria, think.

redfly: @OP,
people like you are a disappointment to the profession. why would I as an architect that spent several yrs getting a BSc and MSc start posting designs on a public forum free of charge thereby creating the impression that we do is available on the cheap.
I kno that many folks will be appreciative of your "kind" gesture but as a professional of several years experience I am not amused.
I cannot blame you alone as the moderator who saw it fit to display this on the FP is also guilty of this folly. as a brother I have to advice u against this as it makes u appear to be HUNGRY.

Dude, snap out of this your cave-man mentality. For Pete sake this 2013/14 and not 1825. There is nothing hidden in 3D impression this days. Check on google, it's all over the place. Even a lot from better and more experienced designers. The type you mr. Hidden secret will envy.

The dude is not doing anything wrong, he's just in touch with the new way of marketing one's self. Sit your arse in your cubicle office and hide your catalog like a secret code and let's see where that get you this days.

Alpha Maximus: Well that's a juicy salary and all but I'm afraid those are peanuts, broken peanuts, in comparison to her foreign ceo counterparts. Last year or so, Steve Jobs' successor, Tim Cook earned a total of over 500million dollars(79billion naira) yet, nobody is making a big deal out of it.

There we go again. A typical African "pull him down" mentality. It bothers me how lazy most Nigerians' brains are. Your comparison is just too flawed from every angle. First off, they are not counterparts, as they are not in the same industry. Plus, how on earth would anyone compare the salary of the CEO of a Apple Inc to the CEO of a Stanbic bank?

It may interest you to know that Apple Inc is technically richer than the USA, while Stanbic bank would 'barely' pass for a credit union (the equivalent of a micro finance bank in Nigeria) in the US. Plus under company classification in the US, Stanbic bank will conveniently fall under Small Business category while Apple Inc is sitting at the top of the big corporation list. So how would anyone call them counterparts, lest expect them to earn the same amount?

Next time you may want to find out the value of asset under their individual control before comparing their salaries.

all4naija: Show me the supercars in those images. I don't have time for this your foaming in the mouth like rabid dog!

Boy, I gave up on your ignorance a long time ago, so enjoy your life. But like I already advised, stop acting like you are already bigger than your dreams.

ba7man: The Ferrari 458 Italia, The Mercedes SLS and the Aston Martin DB7 are supercars.

If that Audi R8 is the V-10, its a supercar.

BTW, You drive a Mustang. Very cool car, you'll know about real speed.

I guess we'd be wasting our time schooling this boy through the basics of what a super car is. Funny he claimed to drive a mustang yet he failed to understand what a super car is.

@all4naija, did u actually read the link you posted? Are you arguing for arguing sake or you just cannot comprehend the language of the English people? If after reading the link you provided and u still cannot see any super car in that parking lot, then I give up.

all4naija: Oh, shut up! You are just as silly as your comment! You are missing expensive car for supper car. The way the OP and many others comments make look as if the who rides there are super-car and there is not one that even fall on the real side of a super-car on the images. Maserati is not a super-car in a real sense of definition of it by speed. Aston Martins has grades and so does Ferrari but not those parked in the car park of that university.

The link is not about the most expensive cars but the famous super-cars! There are cars which aren't supper-cars and are more expensive than those.

Yes,I have 2007 Mustang, you buffoon!

Fukking dummbo, if you're truly a musle head as you claimed, then how many horsepower and torque does a car needs to produce for it to be considered a super-car? Or what parameter do you use to do the classing?

all4naija: I can only call you an i-d-i-o-t! Can't you see the word is pluralized in my comment?! I don't think you even understand my comment though.

m0ron, so Ferraris, Astons and Maseratis are not super cars, huh? Dude, wake up from your dreamland.

all4naija: These are what I called Supercars not those sh*ts in UAE university ---> LINK

Dude, the link you posted above is of the most expensive cars and they in no way make those parked at that UNI less of super cars. It's not like you own an okada anyway.

all4naija: I don't see super-cars there,man. You guys are overly exaggerating the whole scenario here!

Dude, stop acting like you are already bigger than your dreams. No human on this planet will say a double R is not a super car. Or perhaps u should point us all to what you consider a super car in your utopia.

ifyalways: Car is NOTHING in UAE for citizens. They take loans stresslessly, buy a car,drive for 3 months, return it and exchange for a newer model.

True! And to be honest with you guys, all these cars are nothing to the emiratis, they just see them as they we see our toyota camrys here. There is absolutely no class or 'buga' (as we call it in naija) in these cars, the real class is in the plate number.

Any i.diot can buy a Ferrari in the UAE but the real rich people compete with their plate numbers. Some plate number are as expensive as US$1-2m. Imagine driving a us$400k car with a us$2m plate number (now that's real class/buga, the Arabian style). And there is nothing like customizing a plate number like we do in naija. It's just some figures and your $2m is gone.

Don't be surprise to hear that most of the owners of this cars are from the middle class.
I pity naija.

I laugh at all of you arguing over some crappy topic. Long story short, whoever protect the interest of the white people the most on the African soil is the greatest african ever. At the last check, it was Madiba

eastman11: Obasajo is the major problem this country has, he has for the past two yrs been working against this govt and projecting Lamido to be president.
An old man who should promote peace just like Mandela is still playing dirty politics. His sins will soon catch up him.

Shut your gob lil boy. First it was Buhari (cpc) then it was Tinubu (ACN), now it's obj, Tambuwal and Lamido all pdp, isn't it apparent that we have a dunce of a president? Plus what obj said was just a rhetoric, it's what all Nigerians already know. So stop blaming people for your president's incompetentce.

This may come as a shocker to most of you, but Obasanjo has a better reputation and pedigree in world politics compare to Nelson Mandela. Only that one has more media attention than the other.

Respect and cherish what you have.

shymexx: Not crying more than the bereaved - just saying making him the face of the African/black struggle is just a little bit condescending on black people. He's a South African hero. And I love and respect him. But imposing him as what all black people should look-up is problematic.

I'm a black man and I don't compromise. And even if I ever compromise at the beginning, I'll definitely come back for my just due and get it all.

Absolutely true. I respect him and I'm in no way trying to undermine his struggle, but we wouldn't even be able to ascertain if he was truly a changed and forgiven man or he was just subjected to the change, i.e part of his freedom bargain was to let go of past wrongful events again him 'else'.

As much as I don't have anything against him, yet I do not see him as an African hero. He was just a South African hero at best. But still, goodnight madiba.

shymexx: That's America and the West for you. They had to keep him there just to make sure he didn't rescind on the great compromise that actually favoured/favours white people in South Africa. There's too much at stake in that country and they can't afford to lose the over 70% of wealth, which belongs to the white minority.

However, since he kept his promise - they made him the most popular black man ever. The people's hero and used the western controlled media, to sell his story to everyone.

R.I.P Madiba.

Dude, a bottle of Hennessy for you. Unfortunately most Africans don't understand this much. If you check the other thread where the op asked to label madiba with one word, my own label for him was 'overhyped' cos of what you stated above.

Democracy is media and media is democracy. There is no other tool as paramount to democracy as the media. Not even money. Whoever controls the media controls the heart and soul of the masses. Tilt them to whichever side u so desire.

Had madiba made any revengeful move against the minority whites in SA, he wouldn't be such a Messiah that you all know him to be today. The same western media that made him the Michael Jackson you see today would have been used to reduce him to a Michael Tyson.

OVERHYPED!

ocholawealth: It's common everywhere but as a child of God....., one needs to ignore any distraction.... She might be sent from somewhere to destroy u. Witches still exist, u must beware.

Sorry bro, but you are preaching to a winch constantly 'scanning' for witches himself. So consider your piece of advice wasted.

Btwn, op is a kid. This thing happens to most of us all the time (even when we are not scanning) cos there are still so many bold go-getter girls out there who knows what they want, but you dont see us crying all over the place or opening threads.

And I won't blame the mods for putting this on fp, they know nl has a sizable number of nutters like the op, so they are simply doing their business

The biggest benefactors in this are the female pretenders. All they have to do to get their asylum granted is get some head from another female, something they've always crave for from their heady African male.

Not that some smart-ass male folks won't find their way though, but it'll be easier for their female counterpart.

Purely politics. Some of us who are deep in this business knows that this price will not last. As soon as they settle their rifts, the price goes back to over N100.

Even if the price will ever go down, it definitely wont be before December, it would be after the festive period. Oh, lest i forget, the probability of the product being sold at N50 under this regime is just 5% (only because i believe in miracle) and it has absolutely nothing to do with GEJ. So rejoice not, oh ye Nigeria, for thy enemies repenteth not.

Orlando Owoh: He wasn't the leader then but Minister of Petroleum to Olusegun Obasanjo. This was when he had a close relationship with Tam David West.
Muhammadu Buhari was a long time member of the Murtala Muhammed/Olusegun Obasanjo government. He, then Lt.-Col, was made governor of North-East State after the July 29 1975 coup by Brig. Murtala Muhammed.

The question is, isn't a minister of petroleum a leader? Or any minister for that matter? Of yes, then her point is still valid. After 36 years being a leader, when is it gonna be the turn of the then youth or our own turn for that matter?

Note that the world is gradually turning to the younger brains but in Nigeria, the only time we do anything according to international best practices is when a huge scam is involve.

Note: I just noticed that a politician just posted something along the same line with my comment, so I hereby state that I am not a politician and my response was not politically motivated, so should u need to attack anyone politically, don't come at me

[quote author=Yoshi-Master]I nominate myself, I might not have held leadership positions in terms of Governorship, but I was the Class Captain in primary school, and a damn good one.

I love my people too much to want to steal from them, my joys should be yours as well, and your sorrows should be my sorrows too![/quote]Abeg, enough with this same story line already. Isn't this the same storyline Alao Akala, GEJ and Theo Orji used during their election campaign?

@topic, the answer is NONE. It's like asking if there is any Nigerian leader who doesn't drink water.