₦airaland Forum

Fadelex: No matter how bad d situation is, Naija is stil d place, even though everyone is his/her own government i.e u mst av a generator, a bore-hole, pay waste disposal, pay skl fees, pay medical bills, pay for gas, pay for road usage, hire vigilante or opc for security and so on bt most importantly, there is freedom for you here, if u'r ready to become ur own local govt. Come home, nt wit ur family ooo... @least wen u spend like a year or two here den u can relocate dem

Thank you for the advice,much appreciated.

exxell: Story Of My Life..... from this write up, all I was able to deduce is one thing: YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MIND NEVER TO COME BACK TO NIGERIA.YOU JUST WANT CHEAP PUBLICITY STUNT. I know that Nigeria is not perfect but slow and steady; we are getting there. It is better to be a king among my "poor" brothers than a slave among "rich" foreigners. When you die, I hope you will be buried in SA or will they kidnap your corpse too ?

SUMMARY, WE DO NOT CARE!

Common dude you know that is not true.What is wrong in asking my brothers and sisters for direction? What publicity will i get on Nairaland when my real identity is unknown? Don't you think that the people living in Nigeria will be more street smart than I who has been away for a while? In Yoruba we say "Abere ono kin shina" meaning "the person who asks for direction never gets lost".I am a very careful person hence why i seldom make mistakes especially when it comes to my life.

50calibre: Returning home should depend on what is waiting for you at home. Weigh up the pros and cons before taking any decision.

Since you said you have a stable and comfortable life in South Africa and with a South African wife, then consider yourself lucky or accomplished as that is something many black people in south africa cant boast of, you are at least in the middle - upper echelon of the South African society, do you wanna throw that away and come battle unemployment, insecurity, lack of power supply, dangerous roads, corruption, erratic/unskilled/lazy/incompetent/foolish police?

Please returning home without a rock- solid long term plan is tantamount to suicide.

Very honest and direct post there.I must say when you put it like that ,the reality is quite scary.Thanks for your input.

sobastical: This man must be a learner, please kindly come to nigeria only on vacation. That's only the best option for now.

I take offence to your first sentence,if you don't have any advice to give me do not post.This is what i dislike about some Nigerians,ask them for advice and they reply with insults.Can you not see how others have replied sharing their personal views with me without sly commnets?Why can't you just be civil and do the same?

nosike3: [b]Chairman!!! Shut the f up!!!! 'I am used to the luxurious life bla bla bla bla bla!!! [/b]You first of all condemn the country u want to come to and then praised your present location.. It is obvious u have made your mind and just want to inform us how ur scr*wed up life is is SA.. For ur info!! If them don deport u,simply tell us and stop all this fronting!!! All this drug pushers in south Africa that give nigerians (igbo) bad name... Relocate to hell for all I care.

Since when is having basic amenities a luxury or an achievementSo constant electricity ,good roads and cheap high speed internet are luxuries? Jeez some people hen! Even the poorest people here enjoy some of these things i just mentioned. You need to re read my post and comprehend the message in it.There is no part where i rated SA over Nigeria.I simply stated facts and my genuine concerns.By the way i am Yoruba from Lagos with legit businesses that pay tax to the South African revenue Service so please stop your tribal bashing and childish accusations. I am sure you saw the part where i requested for mature adults to give me advice.Since when is asking for honest unbiased advice a crime or an insult to Nigeria

kekerazi: My Broda,we in Nigeria did not hear of any Kidnapping in Lekki.I wonder were you got that news from.And from Your post You'll be Residing in Lekki when you come Back.I can assure you Lekki is safer and more comfortable Than were you are staying in S.A - I might not be too sure though-

I got this from linda ikeji's blog (yeah i know she gossips a lot) .

Ama28: The earlier you start bringing them home even if its for holiday visits the better. South Africa is also rough so I think they can cope here.

The infrastructure issue there is no excuse about it.

But they need to be visiting now so they can adjust to coming home, that is if this place is called home for them.
Good luck

Very good idea.

Rossikk: This is the problem with the media, exaggeration, and anti-Nigerian propaganda. Look at how this man's mind has been poisoned against Nigeria to the point where he cannot even see his country as it is, as opposed to the way enemies of progress want him to see it.

Please poster, if you want to return home, please feel free to do so. Infrastructure is getting better by the day, and is most certainly BETTER than when you left Nigeria 13 years ago. Most of the major federal highways are fixed or undergoing major renovation. 15 airports have been (and are being) completely remodelled. Major cities like Lagos, Port Harcourt, Enugu, Calabar etc are witnessing major infrastructural transformation. The railways are seeing unprecedented investment as is the power sector. In fact power generation has doubled in the last two years and many homes and businesses have seen greatly improved supply, with more plants coming on stream. The power sector is being privatized, so is certain to transform the sector as the telecoms privatization did to that sector.

Security wise, you are SAFER in Nigeria than in South Africa.

I repeat for sake of emphasis:

Security wise, you are SAFER in Nigeria than in South Africa.

In fact you are at least 3 times safer in Nigeria if you compare the crime rate in the two countries. Armed robberies have virtually ceased to exist in Nigeria compared to the spate of their occurrence 13 years ago when you lived here.

Kidnapping occurs, but is EXTREMELY RARE and you are statistically, most unlikely to be a victim. Even if you were, 9.9 times out of ten you will not come to any physical harm. Whoever told you that 10 people were kidnapped in Lekki in the last week or whatever is LYING to you. The usual exaggeration for which many miserable people here are well known for. There are millions and millions of well-to-do Nigerians, including ex-diasporans, who go about their business daily with no problems. There is no reason you and your family would not join them and go about your business daily, with no problems.

Economy wise, there could not be a better time to return to Nigeria. With GDP growing at 7% per annum, Nigeria is the place to be in Africa today. The Chinese are rushing in. As are the Indians, Lebanese, Europeans, Americans, and South Africans themselves. Hundreds of South African companies are establishing outlets here and their number keeps growing, as this country posts the highest returns on investment of any country in the developing world. The Nigerian middle class is growing, and poverty is reducing. The World Bank recently reported that poverty in Nigeria is on the decrease, as better governance leads to more opportunities for people to make progress.

So welcome home.

Thank you for your detailed analysis of the situation.To be honest my heart is at home,i miss the naija badly.There are some things Nigeria has that no other country has.My wife is also reading this thread so i am really glad you posted.

Chubhie: i would advice you still stay back in SA pending when things improve politically in Nigeria but if you have a business game to play in this jungle you may come down but please leave your fam outta this.

achina boy: Chubhie is wright,also bring your family for holidays,then see what happens from there

Thank you for your input guys.

vizboy: you are welcome. And you should know sometimes what u read online is not actually what is happening in the country nigeria is not as bad as people take it to be.

Ok

vizboy: Home is home. You matter the challenges we face here in nigeria. It only you and i that can make our country better. No matter where u are you might one day find ur self in the country. So my advice you can come yourself to put things together first and survey the environment.before bringing ur family down here. Just my2cent

Thank you for your honest input,it is very much appreciated.

I have lived in South Africa for close to 13 years but have been planning to return to Nigeria with my family for the past two years. Over the past two years i have sent money home to arrange a place for me and my family to reside in and have done a lot of research to determine what I will do when I get to Nigeria.

All my plans however have been put in disarray with the worsening Political, Infrastructural and Security problems in Nigeria. I just learnt yesterday that there has been close to 10 kidnappings in the lekki axis where i own a property and this just worries me.

Living abroad all these years has definitely "spoilt" me. Now i am used to constant electricity & water, good roads ,clean open market, parks , cheap ADSL internet, advanced security , strong currency , efficient service providers ,quick access to modern technology , world class medical facilities e.t.c All these things makes my life easy and enables me to earn a decent living. My wife is South African just as my kids are and they are also spoiled by the easy life in South Africa.

The recent state of kidnappings in Nigeria has scared my wife who was once eager to move to Nigeria to become reluctant to move. As everyday passes I see the hope of moving to Nigeria with my family fading away. My In laws have even made it clear to me that they do not want their daughter moving permanently to Nigeria because of the kidnapping situation. I have tried defending Nigeria in their presence but everyday news of bombing or kidnapping emanates from Nigeria.

My questions to all Nairalanders especially the ones in Nigeria are these :

(A) If you were in my shoes what will you do?

(B) Is it worth it to come back to Nigeria at this time or should I wait a few more years till the security situation get better?

(C) Should I leave my family in South Africa, come back to Nigeria and visit SA once every two months?

Please only serious minded people need reply and please none of that “I am the first to comment” nonsense. This is a thread directed at mature adults with some level of intelligence. Thank you.

[size=15pt]Just take a look at the responses here unf-u-c-kin.g believable! You guys (Rossikk,Burger01, val_dee,KingPradas) are supreme idiots and probably criminal minded.Our brothers and sisters are terrorizing their host countries and here you are insulting a Malaysian who is tired of our sh*T.

We destroyed our country (Nigeria) because of our low IQ ,greed ,stupidity,tribalism and inability to be a progressive nation then we move to other foreign countries and start destroying their countries too.Take a look around you,you bloody m0nkeys! Nobody likes us and nobody wants us.They don't dislike us because they are jealous but because Nigerians are f-u-c-ki.ng crime possessed m0r0ns.What good has ever come out of our regressive nation ,what GOOD i ask you?

Until we wake the f-u-c-k up and realize that we are parasites who infest other nations and try to spread our virus of destruction and mayhem ,we will never move forward.The only major export we are known for is Criminals.It is Nigerians like you who have made Nigeria what it is today.You fail to admit that you are wrong and accept correction.Instead you ignorantly contninue to claim to be to be a giant even though our country is one of the worst places to be on this planet.

At the rate at which we are going ,it is only a matter of time before foreign embassies stop issuing visas to Nigerians who are not employed by Government.
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[size=15pt]Only Africans with Negro mentality associate themselves with western and Asian countries.Any true proud African will never fly the flag of another non African country.Go to Israel and see how they are treating Africans badly without any provocation.[/size]

agriboom: absolute bullocks, i lived in malaysia and they had no problem with us until nigerians decided to go and harm their people ok, i have been with malay, tamil, and chinese girls without any problems in every kind of public place (shopping malls as well as their traditional events) you push even a harmless lizard to the wall, it surely will fight back!!! people should check their criminal nature or stay home!!

[size=15pt]I was just about to say the same thing.

My questions are thus :

(A) Why is it always Nigerians that are regularly killed in foreign countries?

(A) Why is it that 95% of the Nigerians always killed abroad by angry locals always come from one section of Nigeria?


Like you said, people should check their criminal nature. I have been living overseas for close to 12 years and i have never been arrested talk less of getting into trouble. Yet i have seen many Nigerians of a particular tribe always getting into trouble every time and even getting killed.We made our bed so we must lay on it.

All this foreign countries also harbour Ghanaians , Cameroonians , Ethiopians e.t.c but you will never see these other nationalities getting killed. Only Nigerians like to over do and show themselves. After what I have seen Nigerians doing in my host country, I have stopped having sympathy for those who get killed. If you are a responsible law abiding immigrant and you stay indoors after 7p.m you will be safe abroad. However if you involve yourself with criminals gangs and stay out late at night, death will come knocking for sure. That is the basic law of life.


Just the other day, the restaurant of the Nigerian girl I used to buy Nigerian food from was raided by the police. They found 100g of cocaine hidden inside the kitchen store. Apparently her boy friend was a drug dealer and she was helping him hide the drug in her restaurant kitchen. The police arrested her and later raped her at the police station. A few days later she was released on bail and she started telling people of her ordeal. Do you expect me to feel pity for such a person? She had a restaurant which was generating a very solid income for her but she decided to get involved in drug dealing due to greed. Do you know how many people’s lives the drugs she and here boyfriend sells has ruined? We as Nigerians need to tell ourselves the truth and admit the nonsense our people do abroad.
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Abi no be the same Niyola be this.Chai some naija boys no know the meaning of beauty ,they just keep on wanking off to a dude's picture. Jeez no standards whatsoever!

Is this not the same Niyola you razz boys are wetting your pants for?? Just goes to show that many of you are gays.Omo see facial biceps,this girl go beat person o!

Yomieluv: hope u aint referring to that razz a.s.s in ur profile. I can't phuck that even for free. Mtcheww.

[size=20pt]Nigger you wish,you no go even get liver say hi to that chick seeing as you are drooling over a maleface chick like Niyola.Jeez how do you musterbate to a drag queen? And for you to "masturbatee" to such means you ain't getting any.Your taste in women show that you have not been out much.Level pass level my brother no be garri

When you start dating naturally pretty chicks like the ones pictured below then your taste would have been upgraded.Until then keep jerking off to she males.
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[size=20pt]The only way to solve Nigeria's problem is through blooshed. We need to completely erase from the face of this planet all old politicians in this country regardless of party affiliation. They are all dead wood and should be violently eliminated and their head hanged on a pole for the whole world to see.After that Nigeria needs a good dictator who can cleanse the rot in the system and restore order.The current democracy we have is a complete waste of time and a regressive system which will never work in Nigeria as long as political criminals are granted pardon by their friends in power.[/size]

[size=15pt]The way guys here are drooling over this girl just makes feel pity for some Nigerians guys.If you are going crazy over a wowo girl like this what will you do when you see the girls outside Nigeria.At best this girl in my books is a 3 out 10 because her face has masculine features.She looks like a drag queen in the second picture.

My d-i-c-k won't even wake up if she is n-a-k-e-d.No be boast o ,wetin my eye don see and my d.i.c.k don chuk pass this level tey tey.By the time you hook up with the kind chicks wey i don hook up with overseas ,all this wowo naija girls no go dey trip una again.Na the koko be that,just check out my profile pic to see wetin i dey talk about.[/size]

payless: Getting rid of corruption starts with Jonathan putting IBB, Obasano, Abubakar, Atiku, Patience jonathan, Anenih, Mainna, Alams, and many more on trial for corrupt practices. Anything else is lip service.

[size=20pt]Is it not glaring how the OP ignored your comment? This unsincere9gerian thinks we are all mugus here that he can whitewash with silly questions and tales by moonlight.Funny how these kinds of ridiculous threads always make the frontpage. [/size]

[size=20pt]This is the MASSIVE construction you are talking about? Lord have mercy ,i think you are MAD.Fly out of Nigeria and see what massive development really means.[/size]

Desola: Are you done?

Where were you when laptops with wifi booster were being delivered to the headquaters of 'alatas' in Mushin? Ehen now, I got one; and i'm grateful that it provided me the opportunity to scold good for nothing 'omo oju ori ola ri' like yourself. Stupid boys who at the sight of toto lose all decorum and start praising other women for their alleged physical attributes so much so that they exhault them past their own mothers. You were clearly not with your cognitive faculties when you boldly declared that Nigerian girls are dirty. I suppose you suffered temporary amnesia then, didn't you? You clearly forgot that your mother and sisters fell into that category your created.

Arrant fo0l!

If there was any justice in this world, your plane shouldn't have made it to SA let alone land and get the opportunity to go into a web cafe let alone own a computer device to spew rubbish at Nigerian women.

You should have gone out in a bad menstrual cycle!

Were!

Your comment betrays your state of mind.You need help girl,get some.Keep drinking your cool aid,as for me i am done with you.I like to have intelligent debates but seeing as you are neither intelligent nor decent,i am outta here.Cheerios, hope that bacteria laced v.i.b.r.a.t.o.r keeps you happy tonight you lonely vermin.

Obiagu1: Hahaha, sorry Yoruba men are marrying our ladies in their late 30s and early 40s. They have no option though but to marry those few wealthy Yoruba men while Yoruba women end up with frustration just like you.

If your thing is not dry yet, I could arrange a guy for you to keep you happy, I think that's what you need to be less bitter.

Desola has a mental problem classified as Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).It is a highly pervasive psychological disorder characterized mainly by self-centeredness. Narcissistic Personality Disorder symptoms include a complete and total lack of empathy, along with a highly-exaggerated sense of self-importance.

all4naija: Not only that, those Nigerians coming back from South Africa should be thoroughly checked for HIV/AIDS at the port of entering. Nigerian cases are increasing! Who knows what might be responsible at this point in time when many of our guys are visiting that nation?

How old are you? Why will you even make a comment like that? So Nigerians livings in SA are the ones responsible for the HIV increase in Nigeria? Geez I seriously wonder about the level of intellect of the people i am debating here today.

Listen here dude you can get infected with HIV anywhere in the world if you are reckless.There are millions of South Africans who are negative because they follow the general rule of "condomizing". To now single out a group as being responsible for the rise in Nigeria's HIV rate is absurd as well as disturbing as it is tantamount to discrimination.

The Nigerian Ministry of health should instead spend more time on educational programs to warn people about the risks of having unprotected sex and give out free condom like they do in SA.They should also look at discouraging sugar daddy relationships and poligamy.

Desola: How was that personal? Did you not volunteer that information regarding your wife's heritage or did I dream it up? Oh, so you were not getting personal while denigrating Nigerian women and exhaulting your SA wide hips wife? Are you hallucinating or you are suffering from selective amnesia?

If you want to know if Nigerian women get tested to determine their status, how about you ask your dirty stinking mother since she is Nigerian and according to you, a dirty hoe!

Sheesh! This stupid boy get mind sha!

See the way you are foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog.No be me say make you wowo now. Chai ugly girls can talk.Your comments shows that your parent were absent when you were growing up.No decent well groomed Yoruba girl will be insulting people mother's and getting personal.I didn't know omo alatas can acess the internet now.Your debating skill is poor to put it mildly,you are jump from side to the other like an incoherent baboon.

I see now that you have a very low IQ hence why you are always so bitter.In fact you remind me of another nutjob ,KOLA BOOF. You talk but can't back up your bark ,show us your photo so we can compare instead of steering the topic away from your looks.If you are visually pleasing ,you would have posted your pic by now instead of dodging the request.

Desola: Thinking Nigerian's stats for HIV occurrence is under-reported is light years from the established fact that your wife and her people suffer the highest reported cases of HIV, non?

Wow way to get personal.Thought you had more brains than that.Guess you are just another typical run of the mill.Feel free to say and believe what you want.I doubt you even know your own status.Like someone else said here already ,we know why some Nigerians girl mention HIV whenever SA ladies are mentioned.We can all put up a front on this forum but only us know our own problems and insecurities.

Desola: ...but there is an iota of truth in what he/she said, isn't there? Just as saying Nigerians are predominantly criminally minded.

Same ni jo!

Does SA not have the highest reported HIV incidences in the world? Pshew! just dey duck under pillow hiding the truth.

The sooner Africans start to face the bitter truth, the better it would be for them and perhaps the truth will hit a chord in this generation and would spur us to start putting our houses in order.

Where are the stats of Nigerians HIV infection rate and how were the stats gathered? As it stands Nigeria is the second in the world in HIV infection so what are you going on about? What is the distance between 1 and 2? Many people in Nigeria are HIV+ but they don't know because they have not done any tests.I still believe that Nigeria's HIV infection rate is under reported.Many of the people talking can not boldly tell you the last time they were tested if ever.The virus is spreading in Nigeria but the health sector is clueless about how far the epidemic has gone in Nigeria.

[quote author=nadia_SA]Well u need surgery for ur face!!! These curves define who we are...real africans...not flat arses like u were smashed by a door.. Yerr u tok bull really..![/quote]ROFLMAO........ you girls will not kill me today with these your knock out lines.

Desola: Shiatsu! This thread has been blazing!

I couldn't laugh enough when I read that putrid post of the nincompoop called play mode. The irony of it all is thy he came to life through that same dirty stinking hole of the so called Nigerian woman. Now you don't get self hating more than that!

SA girls compared to naija girls? Na yam? Una gum shingum for eyes? The picture you low self esteemed fellas have been posting of the sa girls just goes to prove that the are mostly abnormally disproportionate in size with ginormous hip that looks like alien space craft. Abegi they need cosmetic surgery jo!

Roflmao....that was a nice one.

She emi lon pe ni nimcopoop?

Ok na ,post your photo if you know say you fine.Failure to post your photo automatically means you are not sure of yourself.We are waiting.

[quote author=nadia_SA]True tok playmode and most who are insulting us do not even have their pics on here too ashamed to show their faces..like really now..!! They shouldn't talk what they don't know.. || well I'm not ashamed to show my face here!!! Proud naija wife..we taking good care of our men don't know y its bothering some people.. JeaLousY!!
PicZ of me me beLow...[/quote]Now that is a hot chick ,your man is lucky.I hope he treat you well.

@Naija girls can you see?? Our South African sister has posted her pics,let us see yours.You guys have been mouthing off since yesterday ,please post your pictures so we can compare.

all4naija: From most comment supporting South African ladies, I have found out most Nigerians are married to them for resident identities not actually for their beauty.

I have a business permit,i met my wife 10 years ago but only officially married her in 2011.Not everyone is dating an SA girl for papers.In fact it is more troublesome to have a marriage permit than to have a business permit.Only desperate Nigerians marry women for papers.If you are in SA for the right reasons,you don't need to apply for a marriage permit.There are many other options available.