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Was the CP (Police) planning ab initio to kill people at the funeral? Cos I am not understanding?

meeky007:
stop playing with the bible

Google is your friend!

13 And she called the name of the first born Cain, saying, I have obtained a man from the Lord, and the name of the other she called Abel, for she said, In vanity we came into the earth, and in vanity we shall be taken from it.

14 And the boys grew up and their father gave them a possession in the land; and Cain was a tiller of the ground, and Abel a keeper of sheep.

15 And it was at the expiration of a few years, that they brought an approximating offering to the Lord, and Cain brought from the fruit of the ground, and Abel brought from the firstlings of his flock from the fat thereof, and God turned and inclined to Abel and his offering, and a fire came down from the Lord from heaven and consumed it.

16 And unto Cain and his offering the Lord did not turn, and he did not incline to it, for he had brought from the inferior fruit of the ground before the Lord, and Cain was jealous against his brother Abel on account of this, and he sought a pretext to slay him.

17 And in some time after, Cain and Abel his brother, went one day into the field to do their work; and they were both in the field, Cain tilling and ploughing his ground, and Abel feeding his flock; and the flock passed that part which Cain had ploughed in the ground, and it sorely grieved Cain on this account.

18 And Cain approached his brother Abel in anger, and he said unto him, What is there between me and thee, that thou comest to dwell and bring thy flock to feed in my land?

19 And Abel answered his brother Cain and said unto him, What is there between me and thee, that thou shalt eat the flesh of my flock and clothe thyself with their wool?

20 And now therefore, put off the wool of my sheep with which thou hast clothed thyself, and recompense me for their fruit and flesh which thou hast eaten, and when thou shalt have done this, I will then go from thy land as thou hast said?

21 And Cain said to his brother Abel, Surely if I slay thee this day, who will require thy blood from me?

22 And Abel answered Cain, saying, Surely God who has made us in the earth, he will avenge my cause, and he will require my blood from thee shouldst thou slay me, for the Lord is the judge and arbiter, and it is he who will requite man according to his evil, and the wicked man according to the wickedness that he may do upon earth.

23 And now, if thou shouldst slay me here, surely God knoweth thy secret views, and will judge thee for the evil which thou didst declare to do unto me this day.

24 And when Cain heard the words which Abel his brother had spoken, behold the anger of Cain was kindled against his brother Abel for declaring this thing.

25 And Cain hastened and rose up, and took the iron part of his ploughing instrument, with which he suddenly smote his brother and he slew him, and Cain spilt the blood of his brother Abel upon the earth, and the blood of Abel streamed upon the earth before the flock.

26 And after this Cain repented having slain his brother, and he was sadly grieved, and he wept over him and it vexed him exceedingly.

27 And Cain rose up and dug a hole in the field, wherein he put his brother's body, and he turned the dust over it.

28 And the Lord knew what Cain had done to his brother, and the Lord appeared to Cain and said unto him, Where is Abel thy brother that was with thee?

29 And Cain dissembled, and said, I do not know, am I my brother's keeper? And the Lord said unto him, What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground where thou hast slain him.



Book of Jasher, Chapter 1

Following...

That River looks underutilized.

Very few boats/ferries.

Which is more expensive? The borehole or the house?

Obviously the house.

A smart man will take the house. And if he so desires, sell the house and use the money for a borehole.

Case closed!

igbodefender:
PointB, thou man of letters and scribe that engraveth chronicles in parchments thou hast spoken thine thoughts on this issue, and even on this very matter.

But hearken unto me, and pay heed to my very words: The Obatalas liveth in the golden land of Ile Ife, even to this very day.

The acts of the people of Ife from the beginnings of time, are they not recorded in the chronicles of times and the parchments of days of yore?

Nice try.

O Igbodefender, proud and upright son of his father, and joy of his mother.
The man of letter does not deny the legend (or myth) of Obatala. Hearken to my words this day, Obatala exists in the lore of the inhabitants of West. The lores of the East honours many legends. Lo, Obatala was not one of them. Only the minds of the Ooni doth such vituperations proceeds!

They are too many...

mmb:
The party is supreme. And all members who won election on the party's platform need to respect its decision as long as it was done with good intention.

Allowing what happened in 2015 to re-occur again will affect the policy and programme implementation of Buhari administration.

Who's good intention?

Buhari?
Tinubu?
National Assembly?
Or Nigeria?

igbodefender:
You cannot begin to comprehend the Ooni's knowledge of the history of Southern Nigeria. He just scratched the surface for you.

Fear Ife.

History of Southern Nigeria is not same for everyone.

Obatala is a Yoruba deity. There it begins; there it ends!

igbodefender:
The Ooni is not ignorant. He knows what he is saying. The Obatalas were priest-kings in Aboriginal Ife, following the NRI priest-king tradition.

Their title included Oba Igbo and Osere Igbo. Today in Igbo Land we have Igwes. Are Igwes not sky fathers? Or, what does the Igwe title mean?

You didn't follow the guy I quoted.

He didn't say Obatala was a priest. He said Obatala was some deity who made all things. To me, that's co/ck and bull. Every culture has their idea of creator. It's not Obatala for the Igbos.

How are the Igwes sky father? Does adopting the title of gods make one a god?

kayfra:
Igbos are lineage of Obatala the same way Brits or Welsh are. Obatala is the progeinator of all humans. Is english language difficult for you to grasp?

What Ooni is saying is akin to calling us all defendants of Adam only in the context of Yoruba as the source of it all

Let it summarize for you. Ooni is paying you guys lipservice and a little bit of ego stroking

Nay, Obatala is the projenitor of the Yoruba race. Igbos are created by Chukwu Okike(The Supreme God).


So if the Ooni is saying that Igbos are lineage of Obatala (a mere eldest deity), he doesn't know what he's talking about. Igbos don't subscribe to such nonsense as sky father, we leave gullibility to those easily moved.

The Ooni is not paying Igbos lipservice, the Ooni is as ignorant as they come, and he's simply basking in it's bliss. EOD!

kayfra:
I admire him more. The guy is a badass diplomat

You admire him for lying that Igbos are lineage of Obatala? Or you admire him for his genuine ignorance?

kayfra:
It's like a rat biting you and blowing cool air on it to make it less painful. If you know squat about the Orisha Obatala (the creator of all humans) , you'll laugh out loud

He can say the same thing about Chinese or Aborigene folks. If you know, you know

So the Ooni is the rat?

kayfra:
Ooni holds their mumu button. So easy to gas up the yeasterners

Every race on earth is in the lineage of Obatala

Obatala (known as Obatalá in Latin America and Yoruba mythology) is an Orisha. He is believed to be the Sky Father and the creator of human bodies, which were brought to life by the smooth breath of Olodumare.

lol. Maybe your Ooni is ignorant? But you'll rather twist it to float your boat.

Did he just say Igbos are from the lineage of Obatala?

At 2:21

Is that not contempt of court?

If it's a 'secret' meeting, trust me, journalist won't be there to cover it!

@OP,
That's what his wife called him on twitter just yesterday when she tweeted "...GMB"

ProWalker:
If you are yoruba and you plan to vote for Obi and Atiku, you are a BASTARD

Calling your people bastard for making personal choice is quite low. But then it reflect more on your personality if anything.

banom:
Honestly am sorry i had to go that off point. its pointless saying those stuff. But the guy is an irritant. They are always trying to Create the impression that people who support or are IPOB members are poor, uneducated, and jobless. They don't know there are far more educated people running IPOB than those running Nigeria.

You guys should just keep the debates clean.

Those who want Biafra and those voting for Atiku believe they are helping Igbos. There is divided opinion already, the worst strategy will be alienating people with different opinion. If you do that, they will only entrench their position.

So all sides should present their arguments with tact and decorum. It's battle of ideas not of personalities.

banom:
i made it clear to you and everyone else in my first post that it is a choice. if you are for one Nigeria go out and vote, if you are for Biafran and you support IPOB sit at home as directed. what is so difficult there? most i support Atiku before i become a normal human being ? if Atiku is your choice i wish you and him the best, for me, Biafra is my choice and I will boycott the presidential election alongside all my family members.

To each his own

banom:
illiterate keh? oga am probably miles ahead of you in education and exposure. And to add to it, am in my early 30 and am a multi millionaire. self made.

lol.

Meanwhile, the person you are arguing with can claim he has multiple Doctorate degree, in his late twenties, and a multi billionaire.

True or false, this claims are pointless and don't help advance your points.

Bighead9:
I just dey pitty this people aswear. Una never suffer yet, between 2019 and 2023 will be the worst for Igbo's.

Actually that's not true.

Even if Buhari tarries, it won't be worse for Igbos. Igbos have been through harder time, and have long adapted several countermeasures. You should perhaps weep for your ethnic group.

Last time I heard, Hunger does not know tribe!

Those who believe in Biafra should boycott, those who want to give Nigeria a chance to work should vote.

There is no silver bullet for the matter at hand. Both side are right in advocating what they believe in. In future their will be more convergence.

naijapips04:
Sowore is a tout. But I'm happy he will divide yoruba vote the more.

I couldn't agree less with Sowore being a tout. He's also a blackmailer. This I know from personal experience.

I wish him luck though.

Kahujadekadura:
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Work with them in what sense? A man that is not thinking on d same platform with u that u are working with. Bros even if Obi becomes d president tomorrow, he will never speak for Biafra becos Nig politics is his business and no man destroy what feeds him.
D best ppls Kanu can work wit are d literates in d society dat HV ppls bemoan at heart and d masses dat are being marginalized not those selfish politicians.

Unfortunately, only few poeple listen to those people that Kanu has chosen to work with, because either they are not influential or their scope of influence is narrow.

If you say politics is Obi's business and he won't destroy it, you invariably surmise that agitation is Kan's business and he's not going to move beyond agitations as that pays his bill. On both counts you could be wrong as everything is circumstantial.

Obi is not even a VP yet let alone President. But we can't tell what he'll become or do tomorrow. If he doesn't support Biafra agitation, it's because he doesn't believe in it, and you have to respect his position. Everyone can not toll same line.

Lol.



He didn't start making deals today. Atiku can make deal even with the devil...

This an account of Atikulate son of Atiku, son of Garba, son of Abubakar the farmer and trader.
Those who bore witness said when Atiku was eight years old, he father called and spoke to him in this manner, “My son, you will not gain the white man’s knowledge, for it is forbidden by our ancestors, and god. Boko haram,”
“Choose thou this day between two paths which I offer thee. I desire that thou shalt become a farmer or cattle herder“, he had added.
But Atiku had uncanny understanding of men – their strength and weakness, and he finds great delight in using them to further his end. And he found powerful men who desire that he may obtain the secrets in the white man’s scroll.
And it came to pass that Garba son of Abubakar, father of Atiku was thrown into prison for denying Atiku the desire to acquire white man’s knowledge in the center of learning.
It was Atiku’s mother who offered the surety for his release.
Legend has it that the boy Atiku had a hand in these things. It was told that he was able to move men to do his biddings.

https://www.hotchapters.com/2018/10/22/chapter-1-the-book-of-atikulate-son-of-atiku/

Liebermantic:
IPOB is a catastrophe and has to be eliminated..
Abum nwa afo Igbo..IPOB bu ndi Ilo Igbo ni'ne

IPOB is an alternative proposal. It's always good to have two sides of the coin!

highcollide:
how are we going to get biafra by voting in the election?

That's a very good question. But people will go to vote cos you have not convinced them they can achieve Biafra by not voting. I understand the place of civil disobedience in quest for self determination. But the way and manner IPOB is pursuing this now is ad hoc, and ill-timed. And they are also going against popular sentiment of the people. Without paying heed to people's sentiment, the message will be dead on arrival.

Voting in election surely is not good for the quest for self determination; but at the moment many Igbo trust Obi and Atiku. IPOB needs to read and better understand these sentiments and act accordingly.

Sun Tzu says in Art of War
12. There are three ways in which a ruler can bring misfortune upon his army:--
13. (1) By commanding the army to advance or to retreat, being ignorant of the fact that it cannot obey. This is called hobbling the army. .
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By asking us to boycott the election knowing fully well they will not, Nnamdi Kanu is hobbling Igbo.

He should be smarter than that.