₦airaland Forum

@Pain
If Jonathan aim to make the Ijaw nation what you claimed, then he has my full support for his methodology. What is one Nigeria where people are not living up to their potential? Every well meaning citizen should work towards bringing Nigeria to the negotiating table. CARRY GO GEJ

We are on the same page egift. This exercise is purely for recognition. In any case having not king has not be very good politically for Igbos.

Flash back to  the bible time (the Jews an offshoot of the Igbo race or the other way round) recognized this problem and demanded for a king. Having a king, ruler, rep, or spokeman for the Igbo ethnic group is not bad in the real sense. It is goof for unity and cohesion. Time has changed so many things.

To avoid manipulation of the Igbo choice, 1. well known ethnic champion of rival ethnic group nominations will be discounted. 2. Freshly registered posters nomination will have to be seconded by a old poster without bias to rule 1 above.

3. Posters whose ethicity/loyalty have been challenged severally by well known Igbo posters will have their nomination/seconding discounted.

@Aigbofa, lol you are a diehard Yoruba ethnic champion. Nice one all the same. Anyway you can participate in the voting.

@bliss4life, it's well taken even though you will be missed.

@ryo, it is by nomination, then election.
This process in the worse case scenario will show us the most respected and popular Igbo on Nairaland. Subsequent, he would be expected to champion the Igbo cause same way he has been doing. Only that he will be more self conscious of that responsibility.

@topic / OP
Yorubas are actually the most corrupt in Nigeria.

Bode George, Tafa Balogun, Tinubu, Akala, Gbenga Daniel, Alao Akala, Bankole, Iyabo Obasanjo are all Igbos?

Abacha, IBB, Atiku, etc are also Igbo?

If they are not can I have the Igbo equivalent of these?

Is this confirm? If it is true, then this will be one transformation too many.

Government should apply the brake here, it is transforming too far and too fast.

Okada should only be banned state by state on the basis of their own need not nationally.

anyway we await confirmation.

^^^^
Thanks sweetheart, in any case I am not qualified. I am the electoral officer here.

Though you are a lady you are aptly qualified for nomination. If I get favourable nomination for you, you will feature. It will be up to the voters to choose.

There is no precedence for Eze Ndi Igbo on Nairaland and since we cannot verify the s.ex of the posters I would not suggest that female cannot be virtual Eze.

^^^^
Thanks. Lets keep them coming. Top 5 nominees will be polled next week.

Applying the ban rule a hundred times in the past for something done for the fun still does not make it right. It is anachronistic in today's world.

Nairalanders, shall we begin?

I know this will piss off some people, but are we beholden to them?

I think for better political and social cultural cohesion of the Igbo nation on Nairaland, we should nominate and elect an Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

We can also discuss here his functions and term of office.

Who knows what other use this can be put to? Of course other ethnic group are free to do theirs.

Nominations please.

Edited to include:


Qualities and responsibilities expected Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland
The Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland is expected to

1   understands and listens to Ndi Igbo
2   enlightens Ndi Igbo
3   guides, but does not dictate to, Ndi Igbo
4   enables and empowers Ndi Igbo
5   motivate Ndi Igbo
6   inspires Ndi Igbo
7   credits Ndi Igbo
8   helps Ndi Igbo
9   leads Ndi Igbo by example.
10 serves Ndi Igbo

Please let the above guide you in your nomination and voting. Igbos must put the best foot forward - Online, Offline!

Beaf it is for me.

This rule on banning is a disingenuous way to target some people and scheme them out. The worse about thing about these banning is the oftentimes arbitrariness of it. Indeed one cannot total rule out the application of one or two negative ism - nepostism, favoritism, or downright ethnicism in banning.

Or how else does one explain the fact that a very moderate poster like my goodself was once ban without any prior warning?

Applying these rule to deprive posters like beaf and Kobojunkie (Gbawe in case he is affected) and a host of others who have made this section lively, dynamic, and flavored is very anachronistic, and borders dangerously close to despotism, and indeed counter productive.

Knowing the mods very well, it is futile to ask them to rescind this bad rule, but it is important nevertheless that erudite members of this section state their opinion on this bad and anachronistic policis and rules which is gradually becoming the order of the day here.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

People are waiting for war, meanwhile there is already a low intensity welfare goin on in the north and middle belt. Pls those who have families and relatives in the north should call them and advise them as appropriate - issue traveling warning or residency alert.

"Warsaw did not see war, until war saw Warsaw."

ndu_chucks:
You people need to ask yourselves why these kinds of attacks did not take place 10 or 15 years ago. Give yourselves honest answers in the process please. Be sensitive as well.

10 years ago will be 2001, right? Here is some of 2001 incidents:

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/benue2.asp


Ethnic Tivs take refuge in a Catholic church refugee centre in Makurdi in central Nigeria October 20, 2001. More than 60,000 ethnic Tivs have fled their homes in central Nigeria, due to the tribal clashes between the Jukuns and the Fulani tribes against the Tivs, and are now in four refugee camps in the neighboring state of Benue, according to a government official report released on Thursday. At least 500 people have been declared dead or missing. REUTERS/George Esiri
- Oct 20 1:45 PM ET

A cyclist passes a burnt-out church in the Brigade area of Kano, Nigeria, October 17, 2001, after four days of Muslim-Christian fighting that claimed 32 lives. The riots were sparked in Kano, when Muslim youths demonstrated last Friday against the U.S. led bombing of Afghanistan. Picture taken October 17. REUTERS/George Esiri
- Oct 18 8:20 AM ET

Children displaced in the Kano riots seek refuge in Bompai police barracks in Kano, Nigeria, October 17, 2001, after four days of Muslim-Christian fighting that claimed 32 lives. The riots were sparked in Kano, when Muslim youths demonstrated last Friday against the U.S. led bombing of Afghanistan. Picture taken October 17. REUTERS/George Esiri
- Oct 18 8:20 AM ET

Wounded victims of the Kano riots seek refuge in Bompai police barracks October 16, 2001 after they were forced to flee their homes following four days of rioting in Kano, the largest city in Nigeria's mostly Muslim north. Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo inspected the devastation left by four days of bloody religious rioting in the northern city of Kano on Tuesday and told his countrymen not to associate Islam with terrorism. Picture taken October 16, 2001. REUTERS/George Esiri
- Oct 17 6:30 AM ET

The remains of the Brigade-Gwagwarwa Apostolic Church in Kano, Nigeria, are seen Tuesday, Oct. 16, 2001, after the church was torched during Muslim-Christian rioting over the weekend. At least 18 people were killed and 40 seriously injured in the northern city of Kano in violence which began a day after a demonstration Friday by fundamentalist Muslims protesting the U.S. airstrikes in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Tunji Oyeleru)
- Oct 16 9:00 PM ET

The remains of the Ahmadiya Jama'at Mosque in Kano, Nigeria, are seen Tuesday, Oct. 16, 2001, after the mosque was torched during Muslim-Christian rioting over the weekend. At least 18 people were killed and 40 seriously injured in the northern city of Kano in violence which began a day after a demonstration Friday by fundamentalist Muslims protesting the U.S. airstrikes in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Tunji Oyeleru)
- Oct 16 8:58 PM ET

Nigerian Christians shout slogans as the motorcade carrying Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo passes through Kano, northern Nigeria, Tuesday Oct. 16, 2001, after he visited several areas of the city destroyed in a round of Muslim-Christian riotsover the weekend. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 16 3:24 PM ET


Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo, right, meets with Muslim traditional leaders in Kano city, northern Nigeria, Tuesday Oct. 16, 2001. Obasanjo appealed to citizens of his increasingly fractious West African nation not to resort to ``terrorism'' to avenge their losses after the destruction of several churches and mosques during the weekend rampage, which came a day after an anti-U.S. demonstration Friday by fundamentalist Muslims protesting airstrikes in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 16 3:18 PM ET

Children refugees listen to Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo in Kano city, northern Nigeria, Tuesday Oct. 16, 2001. Touring a makeshift refugee camp and entire city blocks destroyed in a round of Muslim-Christian riots, Obasanjo appealed to citizens of his increasingly fractious West African nation not to resort to ``terrorism'' to avenge their losses.(AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 16 1:35 PM ET

A man has his afternoon meal under posters of Osama bin Laden in Kano, northern Nigeria, Monday, Oct. 15, 2001. Stores reopened and market sellers carried produce on their heads Monday as life began timidly returning to normal after an anti-U.S. demonstration sparked a round of deadly inter-religious fighting. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 15 1:00 PM ET

Refugees of religious violence in Kano sort out their household goods that were saved during weekend violence, at a police station in Kano, northern Nigeria, Monday Oct. 15, 2001. At least 18 people when fighting began after a protest Friday by Muslim fundamentalists opposed to U.S.-led airstrikes on Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 15 12:13 PM ET


Firefighters try to extinguish a burning shop in Kano, northern Nigeria, Monday Oct. 15, 2001. At least 18 people died in violence over the weekend that followed Muslim protests over the U.S. and British military strikes in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 15 12:02 PM ET

Residents survey damage October 14, 2001 caused by two days of riots that broke out after anti-American protests in Kano, Nigeria. Local community leaders in Kano said on Sunday that as many as 200 people had been killed after anti-American protests sparked some of the most violent riots in Africa since the U.S. began bombing Afghanistan to try to secure the handover of Saudi-born militant Osama bin Laden. Police said they could confirm only 18 deaths in Kano, based on the number of bodies recovered. The Nigerian authorities routinely play down casualty figures from such clashes to avert reprisals. REUTERS/D'Arcy Doran
- Oct 14 7:25 PM ET

A local resident passes the charred remains of a vehicle in Kano in northern Nigeria, Sunday Oct. 14, 2001. Soldiers were restoring calm to northern Nigeria's largest city Sunday after a day of Muslim-Christian rioting killed at least a dozen people and left shops burned and places of worship destroyed. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 14 12:58 PM ET

A local resident assesses damage to his property in Kano in northern Nigeria, Sunday, Oct. 14, 2001. Violent protests claimed the lives of more than a dozen people on Friday and Saturday after Muslims protested against the U.S.-led airstrikes in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 14 12:30 PM ET


People try to save oil from a charred petrol tanker in Kano, Nigeria, Sunday Oct. 14, 2001. Soldiers were restoring calm to northern Nigeria's largest city Sunday after a day of Muslim-Christian rioting killed at least a dozen people and left shops burned and places of worship destroyed. The rampage Saturday was apparently fueled by a clash the day before between police and Muslim fundamentalists protesting the U.S.-led airstrikes on Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 14 12:33 PM ET

A soldier guards on the street in front of a poster of Osama bin Laden in Kano, an overwhelmingly Muslim city in northern Nigeria, Sunday, Oct. 14, 2001, the day after bands of Muslims and Christians rioted, burning places of worship and looting stores and businesses. At least 13 people were killed, police said. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 14 11:58 AM ET

A soldier patrols near burning debris in Kano, northern Nigeria, Sunday, Oct. 14, 2001. Bands of Muslims and Christians rioted Saturday in the streets of Kano, burning places of worship and looting stores and businesses. At least 13 people were killed, police said. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das)
- Oct 14 11:46 AM ET

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/benue2.asp


There is always flimsy reason for you lots to go on the killing rampage.

namfav:
what expiring date do you ibos talk about, sore losers much and just few months ago you wanted a ibo president now that it is not happening you want nigeria to fail, you have to be slapped
nigeria will not expire, lets work on interests of the country, and not interests of tribes

What is not happening. has fresh elections been held? In any case, 2015 will be the end of Nigeria, that if it does not happen earlier. Neither hausa/fulani nor igbo presidency will stop it from happening.

The only condition is cessation of any form of killing by hausa/fulani in Northern or any part of nigeria for that matter. If you guys still want Nigeria to exist you must heed this warning, or else . . .?

Ayoobscom:
@akigbemaru & @PointB, I made myself clear

You are only jealous abusing Allah and Muhammed and nothing more,


Terrorism is a product of nonchalant,indiscreet or abusive words, Has any Muslim ever abuse Jesus(Isa)a.s.w, whenever his name is being mentioned we pray for him , whenever his name is being mentioned we pray for him

I cannot rescue you in the hereafter this is where i can @poinB & @akigbemaru, live,speak and act by samples of the book you carry, Awon O ponu wonyi

Yea right I am jealous of allah because he takes away worship from me. allah is so successful and feared because Osama kill and co killed in his name and no one is killing in my name, that is why I am jealous of allah?

Lol at your logic and you judge for yourself who the Oponu is between you and I? Jealous of allah indeed.

Ileke-IdI:
Just 20k?

Wherever. As long as they make a honest living.
Could be bricklaying for all we care.
Too far off to be picky.

Meaning they could as well be paid for doing nothing?

namfav:
the argument is not how many places these guys have bombed, does it matter if they are doing the bombing,  when threats are made the sss does not differentiate from a actual threat to a money making scheme, it is all the same, imagine if these threats were not taken seriously but were in fact, real threats, these guys are terrorists, they are actually DOING the job of scaring the public, making the sss work over time because sss does not know which threats are real and which are just for extortion, as some of you have been arguing about they are ALSO scaring off investors etc. and these syndicates won't stop just like 419 they will continue capitalise

Compared to kidnapping and bombing, and drive by shooting, issuing threats is child-play.  Do you know the meaning of hoax?

ezeagu:
Actual facts trump loud mouths and their follow-follow's.

I agree with you.

Daily you keep hearing 'go and develop your land.'

But when you look at musiwa's famous satelite pictures.  

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-688971.0.html

You see those living in well laid out cities, and those choked beyond measure with slums for cities.

Then looking at this statistics, another revelation begins to unfold. SE is indeed ahead her peers despite the war and government unfavorable policies.

The intention of this post is actually to find an answer to some seemingly contradictions. Discounting Lagos and Abuja,

1. Is SE more developed compared to other Zones?
2. If the answer is YES, why do we keep hearing "Go and develop your region?"
3. If the answer is NO, where/what is the evidence of development in other regions compare to SE? Cities, wealth, health? Which Zone has the best cities? (
4. If there is not evidence of such development, to what extent (with evidence) can non-indigenes claim to have developed other people's land?
5. If there is no such evidence of development (beyond what obtains in SE), should we not also ask why other Zones are not developing their land? In other words, why is there no picturesque view of SW Cities such as Abeokuta, Ibadan, Akure? Are they waiting for non-indigenes to take the lead in the long overdue face-lift of these cities?

These contradictions needs to be properly addressed to better address the issue of "go and develop your region" mentality of Nigerians.

Ileke-IdI:
If there was enough evidence to bring forth during the pretrial and hearing, the case would not have been dismissed.

In this case, it was flung out of the window like a soiled diaper.

There were more "powerful" morons (on purpose) against him.

Beaf:
My broda, ask me!
I even provided ample documentry proof of Tinubu's corruption, but the usual brigade applied their failed stone throwing tactics to deflect from the issue. The amount of hypocrisy flowing in the blood of some Nigerians is really sad. These are the very same people who wil jump up tomorrow to cry crocodile tears about Nigeria's lack of development.

The way I see it. The power that be, just let him of the hook. Perhaps, he would be paying back at a future date. A (hooked) crooked certainly have it use. Mark it, Tinubu is finished; he is too far compromised.

The only way he can regain respect, and dignity is by transparent trial and acquittal. Anything short of that will expose him to future trial. The way he is left with a slap on the wrist  makes him weak voice and a political liability.

Ileke-IdI:
Thank God the stat is revealing. What is now next?
Will that stop ppl from relocating to the SW/ North as usual?

Do you have a figure/data on this relocation?
For all I care there are less than 1000 non-indigene in SW/North at any given time.
Can you prove otherwise?

Ileke-IdI:
Stand and dont waver.
Stay consistent.
And the world will take you serious.

+100

Indeed mind boggling statistics are found in that PDF.



Here is the summary,



Education:

SW - Top (figures not stated)
NW - Least


Health

Fertility (number of birth per woman)
SW - 4.5
NW - 7.3

Nigeria average - 5.7


Tenage Child Bearing

SE - 8%
NW - 45%

Nigeria Average - 23%


Median Age at first sexual intercourse (WOmen)

SE - 20.4
NW - 15.4


Child Vacination

SE/SW - 43%
NW - 6%

Nigeria - 23


Stunted Growth (Malnutrition)
SE - 22
NW - 53

Nigeria - 41%

Use of Mosquito Net

SE - 11%
NW - 4

Nigeria - 6%


TOPS

SE - 4 Indices
SW - 2 Indices

More data of physical living environment/condition and GNI per capital needed. So far the statistics is revealing.

ezeagu:
See here:

www.measuredhs.com/pubs/pdf/SR173/SR173.pdf

Thanks man, will go through and will be back shortly.

Ileke-IdI:
Let's start with your answer.

Madam I am the one asking the question here. Sho gbo?

ezeagu:
From best to worst:

South east
"South south"
the rest

What parameter are you basing your choice on? Any evidence?
And delving further into the HDI by city standard, which six cities would you like to live in Nigeria? And why?

Ileke-IdI:
Poster, start by naming a region.

You have one on your mind?

There are six geopolitical regions in any case

NC
NE
NW
SE
SS
SW

Which of these regions in your opinion is better off in terms of the following HDI criteria

1. A long and healthy life: Life expectancy at birth
2. Education index: Mean years of schooling and Expected years of schooling
3. A decent standard of living: GNI per capita (PPP US$)

I am not sure of the statistics of life expectancy across the region
But certainly items 2, and 3 certainly favour the South.

Ileke-IdI:
The court just proved him "Not guilty".

If you understand law, you'd realize that your ppl/ laywers/ ANC-Haters could not find any sufficient vidence to find him guilty.

Yes, the country is indeed hopeless.

Some of those lawyers against prolly bought their certificates too. Like the recent one in the news.  That's why they couldnt stand the heat, incompetent bunch.

PS: Can someone post the names of the lawyers on both side?


Corrupt Nigerians trying to tie us down.

Nigerian Govt EPIC FAIL against  : Tinubu, Baba Suwe.


Next time, plan well well before going against one of us again. Plz.


I'm a lil late: But where is Bankole sef? That is the guilty one. Go after him b4 he chop una money finish.

Exactly how was he proved "Not Guilty"? Or how does dismissing a case on technicality amount to 'Not guilty'
Tinubu was not tried either because the powers-that-be does not believe it worthwhile and have decided to give him soft landing.
So you can continue with your victory lap because one of you was given a let off with a slap on the wrist but never because he was not guilty as charged. In any case, a leader is a as good as the society that raised him.

Bode George, Tafa Balogun, Bankole, Gbenga, Obj, Tinubu are all very exemplary citizens, and indeed of yours; I hail!

If corrupt men like Tinubu walk free on 'technicalities' , does that not justify the argument that there is no hope for nation building. Tearing up this country remain the most viable alternative.

The funny thing is the ethnic coloration of the goons jumping into his defense. Tinubu has a case to answer, getting let off on technicalities does not in anyway eliminate any doubt on the charges of corruption against him. It is not yet Uhuru; Tinubu is yet to clear his name - both in certificate forgery, and corruption case. In any case, this saga has damaged him more than his bigoted supporters are wont to acknowledge.

Tinubu is a common criminal, that is the people's verdict!

Same sex marriage bill irrevocable – Mark Featured
Written by  Oluwole Josiah, Abuja

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President of the Senate, David Mark, has reacted to the criticisms from the international community over the passage of the bill prohibiting the same sex marriage, saying the action by the Senate is irrevocable.

Speaking while receiving the German Ambassador to Nigeria, Dorothee Janetzke-Wenzelin, in his office on Thursday, Mark said the Senate would not change its position in the face of threats by some foreign nations.



He restated his position that countries could withdraw their aids to Nigeria if they wished on account of the law on the same sex marriage.

Mark said, "It is unfair to tie whatever assistance or aid to Nigeria to the laws we make in the overall interest of our citizens, otherwise we are tempted to believe that such assistance comes with ulterior motives.

"If the assistance is aimed at mortgaging our future, values, custom and ways of life, then they should as well keep their assistance."

He also assured foreign missions in Nigeria of their safety as the Federal Government had risen to the occasion to check the menace of security threats.

He said, "There is no need to panic or contemplate leaving Nigeria on account of security. We are doing our best to contain the situation. Recent events have shown that we are capable of handling the situation.

Mark said Nigeria was aware of the challenging security situation and was exploring all reasonable local and international avenues to tackle the situation.

"I can say without fear of contradiction that our efforts are yielding results in dealing with the security situation. So there is no need for anybody or mission to contemplate leaving Nigeria, we shall overcome," he said.

According to him, Nigeria and Germany have a long history of bilateral relationship which he canvassed should be improved upon for the benefit of both nations.


[url]http://www.punchontheweb.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=6434:same-sex-marriage-bill-irrevocable-%E2%80%93-mark&Itemid=542[/url]

Onlytruth:
All I know is that Igbo elites are desperate to justify their political leanings toward the Nigerian federation. The youths of Igboland are very angry and these Igbo leaders know.
So, what they are trying to do is to take the matter beyond the youths by securing a Nigerian national honor for Ojukwu. But I think the whole thing will fail because Ojukwu is now beyond their style of politics. He has transcended all these nonsense.
So, in a way, a Nigerian national honor for him would almost ruin his legacy. Maybe some day when Nigeria must have implemented the ideals of Aburi and secured true equal rights for every citizen, only then would Ojukwu not be tainted by a Nigerian national honor.

If Ojukwu were still alive, he would reject it like Achebe did!

+100

^^^
So who is this hunter with a dane gun?