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FRANCISTOWN:
Ọmọ, i don go find trouble this night.

Eskis sir. Do you know that Christianity has started declining?

Sure it is declining. It will be overtaken by
P astafarianism!

In your dreams. See below

Maynmann:
If your family patriach is making history, it will he recorded. You can’t be walking on water, turning water to wine, waking dead people and their will be no record of it.
John the baptist was recorded by Josephus, judas of Galilee was recorded by Josephus and other historians.

It’s only fairytales that are gotten from one source.
Not to forget, New Testament belongs to Chrestians.

People with much larger following than Jesus had at the time claim to be performing same miracles today, yet nobody is recording them EXCEPT their followers. Explain that

Maynmann:
All your stories only exist inside New Testament.
Lots of religions are over 2000 years old, go and check zeus cult lol
Even serapsis cult is over 2000 years old.



One has a natural tendency to look to religions to be based on something positive, good; Chrestianity was the exact opposite: it was political, with the purpose of supporting Imperial clients in the Levant against Messianic Judaism (which was a rising force).

It did this not by promoting itself, but by instigating conflict with Messianic Jews, just look at their character and actions: the Imperial chamberlain Epaphroditus; the Prefect of Judaea, Felix; the common-law wife of Emperor Vespasian, Caenis.

They are those members who built the sect through the first century, killing Nero and Domitian (within less than a century).

Maynmann:
Iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside New Testament, it’s a Roman Paraody.
There are many religions that lasted more than 2000 years.

Of course Christian stories exist in the NT, where else do you want them to exist? It is like asking why the details of the life of your family patriarch only exist in a book written by your family. Why would anyone else care to write about your family patriarch??

Zeus never lived. Mention another person who could forgive sins or asked people to call upon him

Maynmann:
All your stories only exist inside New Testament.
Lots of religions are over 2000 years old, go and check zeus cult lol
Even serapsis cult is over 2000 years old.



One has a natural tendency to look to religions to be based on something positive, good; Chrestianity was the exact opposite: it was political, with the purpose of supporting Imperial clients in the Levant against Messianic Judaism (which was a rising force).

It did this not by promoting itself, but by instigating conflict with Messianic Jews, just look at their character and actions: the Imperial chamberlain Epaphroditus; the Prefect of Judaea, Felix; the common-law wife of Emperor Vespasian, Caenis.

They are those members who built the sect through the first century, killing Nero and Domitian (within less than a century).

You missed the second part of my post.
Here:

About Jesus never lived, has it ever occured to you guys that someone with an agenda is lying to you, manipulating you?
It is now, over 2000 years later that you suddenly find out Jesus never lived. Those who lived close to his time on earth not only knew he lived but were fanatical about him, including emperors and learned ones.
Have you ever asked yourself why it is only people who live over 2000 years after his crucification who came up with the idea he never lived??!

Maynmann:
Where is the selective wikipedia, why don’t you quote your own parts?
Christ is a greek word, and it means anointed with OIL.
In hebrew it is “messiah”, there are a lot of messiahs in tanakh.
Spirit means breathe, wind, air, why don’t you have knowledge on the words you are regurgitating?

FRANCISTOWN:
I was having this argument with someone on NL I think last week.

I told the guy that Jesus never lived. That man called Lesus Chrestus never walked on the surface of this Earth. Whether he lived in Mars, I don't care.
There is no Jesus anywhere, that nigga never lived

Yes, there were indeed a lots of Messiahs and then there was one carpenter without money, connections, or much followership, who claimed oneness with God, and said way back then, over 2000 years ago, that how you'd know the real messiah was that the fake ones would all fade away. Sure enough, over 2000 years later, here we are!

About Jesus never lived, has it ever occured to you guys that someone with an agenda is lying to you, manipulating you?
It is now, over 2000 years later that you suddenly find out Jesus never lived. Those who lived close to his time on earth not only knew he lived but were fanatical about him, including emperors and learned ones.
Have you ever asked yourself why it is only people who live over 2000 years after his crucification who came up with the idea he never lived??

Lyrics269:
But your god was gay, hates women, approved genocides, stoning and the famous one human sacrifice.
LGBT is here to stay, tell Iesus to chase them out. Jesus wan jo soapy

How is his God gay?
My problem with supporting LGBTQ+ is that it is a slippery slope. Any country that starts out not persecuting them ends up taken over be them. That's why I support they be mildly persecuted and always reminded it is abnormaf

Maynmann:
My man, jesus is a latin name given for males.
Spirit means breathe, wind, air.
Your Iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside New Testament created by chrestians.
You have been DUPED, believer.

I hope you don’t die a yahweh worshipper waiting for a jewish savior!

Look at the original ending of mark.
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/the-strange-ending-of-the-gospel-of-mark-and-why-it-makes-all-the-difference/

Things ought have a reason.
So why did "Chrestians" create the NT or was it that they didn't have enough to worry about with all those persecutions from Romans?!

Maynmann:
My man, jesus is a latin name given for males.
Spirit means breathe, wind, air.
Your Iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside New Testament created by chrestians.
You have been DUPED, believer.

I hope you don’t die a yahweh worshipper waiting for a jewish savior!

Look at the original ending of mark.
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/the-strange-ending-of-the-gospel-of-mark-and-why-it-makes-all-the-difference/

Bros, you keep missing the fact that Jesus is Spirit. How does Mark ending in unicorns affect that? A spirit working in people's lives as we speak, TODAY! No amount of revisionism can negate that!

Maynmann:
Josephus was writing about history and there are other sources that agrees with it.

What old writings by jesus associate?
All the gospel were written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
The earliest and original New Testament belongs to chrestians.
My friend, You HAVE BEEN DUPED.

Gospel of mark is the first gospel to be written, others copied mark work.

You know jesus means yahweh saves.
Have you look up yahweh on Wikipedia, don’t cherry pick oo

You are yet to tell me when “Christianity” went to rome

You keep quoting nonsense written by anti-christians and argumentative atheists. My man, Lord Jesus is a LIVING SPIRIT that went to Rome, Europe, Africa, and supplanted all their false gods. Paul was like you. I hope you have encounter with the Spirit like he did. It'd open your eyes!

Maynmann:
Where was jesus foretold extensively, inside the tanakh?
Bring it out.


Jesus was born in 8-4 BCE (Matthew) and in 6 CE at the Census of Cyrenius (Luke). Judas was mentioned by Josephus in 4 BCE, relating to the Golden Eagle Temple Cleansing (Ant. 17.149-167) and in 6 CE, regarding the Census of Cyrenius (Ant. 18.1-10) The birth narratives in Matthew and Luke are both inconsistent with the reign of Pilate and the ministry of John the Baptist. For example, if Jesus were born in 4 BCE and died thirty-three years later, then he would have died around 30 CE, during the reign of Pilate but five years before John the Baptist’s death. (Ant. 18.116-119) If Jesus were born in 6 CE and died thirty-three years later, then he would have died in 39 CE, a few years after John the Baptist but two years after Pilate left Judea. Both accounts appear historically flawed. These two birth narratives were strategically placed in an era when Judas the Galilean’s ministry flourished. This deception moved the adult Jesus thirty years away from Judas the Galilean, thus hiding the Messiah's true identity.
This misdirection by the Gospel writers has worked brilliantly. Very few scholars have even considered Jesus outside of the 30 CE timeframe. This is even more disturbing considering Jesus' brother, James, was purported to be ninety-six years old in 62 CE. Even if this slightly exaggerates his age by ten years, James' birth date can be estimated at approximately 35-25 BCE. Jesus was the older brother and could not have been born any later than 25 BCE.

Talk about being confused and desperate. So everything written about this wonderful Judas and John the Baptist are perfect but all the old writings about Jesus by his associates and followers being found in various caves and parchment till today are all false, all made up!
My friend Embrace the TRUTH!
Lord Jesus is not a one off. He was foretold. He came and said he was the one foretold. Most importantly, he has been working wonders in people's lives all these centuries, and here you are, mired in arguments as to wether he was one Judas! Unbelievable!

Maynmann:
You are confused and desperate.

Who is Eusebius?

I am confused and desperate??
It would seem you just described yourself.
Here you are, arguing something that has long been settled by TIME. Different if these things happened yesterday. These are things that have stood the test of time. Lord Jesus was FORTOLD extensively before he came. And when he came he confirmed he was the one foretold and said time would prove it because all these other messiahs (there were many) would fade away but his words and ministry would only expand and last. Herr we are 2000 years later and He is 100% right. Yet you are still arguing ! What exactly are you arguing??!!

Maynmann:
No historian mention Iesus chrestus.
What you showed me is an interpolation, all the works of josephus are gotten from eusebuis.

Josephus was talking about judas of Galilee.

That judas of Galilee became Iesus chrestus your savior.
You are worshipping a roman parody.

There you go again with your selective quotation of Wikipedia (which anyone can edit by the way).
Mention of Lord Jesus was by Eusebus but mentiom 9f Judas was not!

Maynmann:
Eusebius the master forger

You are a ignorant yahweh worshipper, do you really want to go into josephus

Meaning what? I just told you it makes no sense that Lord Jesus be mentioned by any serious historian.
Why would someone writing the history of the British Empire mention some small time religious cult leader in Ota village?? That His mention is being discussed at all is a miracle!

Lyrics269:
The earlier you realize that jesus was not a real person, the better. The new testament is a work of interlink fiction.
Everything in the bible is made up and science don't take it seri

You agree with me that things have to make sense, right?
Made up for WHAT PURPOSE??!!

Maynmann:
That’s what religion does.

Can you provide evidence where there persecution coincided perfectly with the followers of lord jesus.
Outside New Testament, your iesus chrestus doesn’t exist.

Nero was crucifying chrestians.

I don’t know otem otem lol bwahahahaha

See, this is what I'm saying: arguing a LIVING SPIRIT with someone not spiritual at all. It is a waste of time.

You keep saying "Outside New Testament, your iesus chrestus doesn’t exist". Firstly you know full well that's a lie. You know he was mentioned by historian Josephus - which is really miraculous. It is like a Nigerian historian mentioning a very minor Togolese religious cult leader with virtually no following, in the history of Nigeria!

That's what confuses you people - you confuse the stature of Lord Jesus today with his stature when he was crucified. Why would anyone mention him? Crucifixions were common and he was a very minor religious cult leader with very few followers, most of whom deserted at His death. Why would anyone writing history menton Him??

Kobojunkie:
You are the one with the idea here. So, please indulge me. Why was He declared a man of war in the song?

Why this obsession with "in the song"?! I don't even know what song you talking about! What does it matter wether it is "in the song" or "in the bush"??!!!

Kobojunkie:
No likening....alright. So Why was He declared a man of war in the song?

Define "MAN of war" for us, starting with "man"

Kobojunkie:
Again, tell me, why do you believe He was likened to a soldier in dirge/song?

Irrelevant. There is no likening anything in the statement.
All that's left is for you to define "man of war"

Kobojunkie:
Lol.. talk about majoring in the minor for Pete's sake.

Tell me, why do you believe He was likened to a soldier in dirge/song?

"The lord is a man of war" is a declarative statement. It is not likening anything

Maynmann:
Don’t run.
Worship of serapsis started at 322BC
The worship of isis chrest started in In Ptolemaic Egypt, the goddes Isis - she was the Last Queen of Ancient Egypt, when rulers were men, worshipped across the Roman Empire and the last Queen Cleopatra was the resurrected Isis - became Isis Chrest.

Maynmann:
I just learnt something today, thank you, PoliteActivist.

Didn’t i tell you about the pioneers of chrestianity?

The worship of isis chrest started in In Ptolemaic Egypt, the goddes Isis - she was the Last Queen of Ancient Egypt, when rulers were men, worshipped across the Roman Empire and the last Queen Cleopatra was the resurrected Isis - became Isis Chrest.

Julius Caesar and later, Mark Antony, became the husband of this divine Cleopatra claiming the Romans as her Divine Consort; between them were fathered a number of children; among them was Antonia.

Antonia was the legitimate daughter of Mark Antony and Octavia Minor, and founded a polythesistic, imperial cult. Their followers called themselves Chrestian in the early decades of the first century of the modern era.

We thus see that Isis Chrest is linked, through Cleopatra and Mark Antony, to Chrestianity.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_century_BC

Don't run ke. Run where?
My brother discussions have to have some logic to them.
This reminds me of the tales of Otem Atum (search for him on NL).
Why are these Chrestians suddenly happy to die - for who exactly. And isn't it a little bit suspicious to you that their advent and persecution coincided perfectly with the followers of Lord Jesus?
Are you sure you are not Otem Atum with a new moniker?

Maynmann:
The new testament is a modern name given to it by early church fathers, they are called codex, go check out codex sinaiticus.

Let’s go to how the books are complied and added, most of the books in your New Testament are written by unknown authors.

remind: Chrestianity is a pagan, imperial cult starting in the early first century. It first appears as supporting imperial clients in the Levant and in so doing, opposing Messianic Judaism, seen as competing against the claimed divinity of the Emperor.

I thought you said Chrestianity started 100's of years BC. Isn't it so convenient that it now started 1st century.

My brother, this is a TOTAL waste of my time.
Nice chatting witcha
Bye bye

Maynmann:
The new testament is a modern name given to it by early church fathers, they are called codex, go check out codex sinaiticus.

Let’s go to how the books are complied and added, most of the books in your New Testament are written by unknown authors.

remind: Chrestianity is a pagan, imperial cult starting in the early first century. It first appears as supporting imperial clients in the Levant and in so doing, opposing Messianic Judaism, seen as competing against the claimed divinity of the Emperor.

With all due respect my brother, this us pure nonsense. So what were the Chrestians so passionate about to the point of blissfully accepting death?
Who was St. Paill writing to? Why is NT full of Lord Jesus and not Chrestians?

Maynmann:
Interpolations, edition, forgery and plagiarism.
New Testament is one of the most corrected document in history.

Outside of new testament created by chrestians, your iesus chrestua doesn’t exist.

So who was the Chrestians writing about in this their book - the NT?

Maynmann:
Where in history did it say that, show me where Chrestians persecution started, which century?
Have you forgotten yall were first called chrestians in Antioch?

What century was your iesus born?

First, why are you writing Jesus as iesus
What is the genesis of these "Chrestians" and what are they so passionate about. The persecution all historians record is that which started with advent of followers of Lord Jesus and ended with Constantine

Maynmann:
your new testament belongs to chrestians.

You've made this statement several times. So why is same NT full of words and exploits of Lord Jesus and his followers??

Maynmann:
I don’t think you know who chrestians are.
It was chrestians who burnt down rome and killed nero, your new testament belongs to chrestians.

Mithridates Chrestus in Pontus (flourished 2nd century BCE). Inscription on Delos:
To Zeus Ourios on behalf of King
Mithradates Eupator
and his brother
Mithradates Chrestus
and their fortunes.

Gymnasiarch Dionysus son of Neon erected a statue of Eupator and Chrestus in 115 BCE; Ins. Delos 1560; Durrbach, Choix 187 No. 113; also dedication to Zeus Ourios on behalf of Eupator and Chrestus, Ins. Delos 1561, Durrbach, Choix 189 No. 114.

Here's what you should answer:

So why did their persecution suddenly start at time of spreading of gospel of Lord Jesus and suddenly end when edict of Millan legitimatized Christianity?

Maynmann:
Where did chrestians prefection suddenly start at the lord jesus?

Your New Testament belongs to Chrestians.
Chrestianity was made a State Religion.

In Ptolemaic Egypt, the goddes Isis - she was the Last Queen of Ancient Egypt, when rulers were men, worshipped across the Roman Empire and the last Queen Cleopatra was the resurrected Isis - became Isis Chrest.

I mean persecution. I corrected it right away

Maynmann:
Where is the selective wikipedia, why don’t you quote your own parts?
Christ is a greek word, and it means anointed with OIL.
In hebrew it is “messiah”, there are a lot of messiahs in tanakh.
Spirit means breathe, wind, air, why don’t you have knowledge on the words you are regurgitating?

I won't quote because it's a waste of time.
You are still lost in semantics. Lord Jesus is a LIVING SPIRIT. I pray you have a direct encounter with the Spirit, let's see if you won't turn 180 degrees like Paul!

sonmvayina:
Who told you this tale?
Romans or Christians??

Historians

Maynmann:
Do you think chrestians are peaceful people?
They are murderers, they burnt rome and killed king nero.

So why did their persecution suddenly start at time of spreading of gospel of Lord Jesus and suddenly end when edict of Millan legitimatized Christianity?

Maynmann:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

So why was Rome suddenly persecuting them and feeding them to animals? Or that didn’t happen either?

Maynmann:
My friend, jesus is a latin name, if your savior was a jewish man he would have been called just another hebrew name. Iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside New Testament.

In your bible, who named paul a Chrestian? Did he name himself that?
Was paul not called a “ring leader of the nazarene?”

Why do you confuse yourself with semantics and very selectively quoting Wikipedia? Christ is Spirit not bound by semantics or a book. Why not pray you have a direct experience with the Spirit (as Paul did) so you'll see for yourself