SangoOlukosoOba: Accept or denounce, men will always crave for a male child. If they don’t say it doesn’t mean they don’t want it.
Most just say it to make their partners happy.
This is actually not true - generalization from being in Naija. Example, for some reason most black American men prefer baby girl, but in most places men don't have any strong preference
SangoOlukosoOba: Let’s be sincere with ourselves! I am a strong believer about all kids being a blessing, but you still cannot deny that men always desire the male child. It’s just natural.
We can hide it or denounce it, but deep inside, we crave it.
Lol it is not natural at all. In some places they prefer daughters
Reflect7: YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AFRICAN RELIGION, so SHUSH.
Individuals at home carved images of deities to place on their altars in their courtyards. They were thousands and probably millions of such images. They were symbolic just like your church paintings and cross are symbolic.
Ignoramus talking rubbish.
Plus 95% of the artefacts looted were NOT religious artefacts representing deities. They were bronze works from Benin, Ife etc which depicted kings and soldiers etc.
YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AFRICAN RELIGION, so SHUSH Plus you are lying to boot. Nobody had image of Ogun or Amadiha at home. They were deep in the forest, in their shrine, accessible only to their priests and certain elders. Just as we believe egungun are the real spirits of the ancestors, not some funny-looking masquerade - which is actually what they are!
Genius talking rubbish.
Africans didn't do "symbolic" for the most part. They didn't believe in a god you can't see. That statue itself was the god - that's what you swear to! It had magical powers (we believed)
akakurukukaku: Just as Terrorists destroy churches, kill pastors and thousands of Christians without any intervention from their God
Well, if you notice, OP said African gods are vengeful, no forgiveness, and consequences are immediate - which is why he is advocating using them in swearing on in instead of the Bible. Christians never made any such claims about God
akakurukukaku: Those images they took away were symbolics of African Gods. They are not the God itself. Just as Terrorists destroy churches, kill pastors and thousands of Christians without any intervention from their God
Well, they were not just symbolic otherwise we'd have easily made another one. Example, Jesus statutes are symbolic - they sell them in the market, and I can make one myself if I want. No, those statues were the gods themselves - terrible and fearsome, and you dared not approach them, not to talk of look at them unless fortified, and women and children dared not set eyes on them! Yet here they are, on display in some museum for all to see. So much for that!
lecowas: A god that can be stolen or taken away ain't no God IMO
Not only took them away, but mounted them on display in European museums for all to come and see - same terrible, fearsome gods that you dared not approach, not to talk of look at unless fortified, and women and children dared not set eyes on them!
Reflect7: They don’t even realise that the only reason the Jesus story makes sense to them is that it was drilled into their heads and sold to them as ‘fact’ when they were children, before their brains were fully developed enough to filter out bullshiit.
Any adult hearing that Jesus story for the first time instantly rejects it for the nonsensical fairytale it is.
Imagine hearing as an adult for the first time that some guy was born by a virgin impregnated by a spirit?
That he walked on top of a sea without sinking.
And then raised people from the dead. Until he was killed and woke up from the dead on the 3rd day.
And that he later flew up into heaven on a dinner table before onlookers?
You would conclude the person telling you this story must be drunk.
MindHacker9009: I'm still finding it hard to beleive that l grew up beleiving this invented story of Jesus Christ for decades. I now understand some years back when l said to a group of young adults in a church that we should not forget about the coming back of Jesus Christ and one of the young adult who organised the group gave me a weird look.
Let's assume you are right, that all that's made up. Does that change the fact that the eternal Spirit exists, has always existed, and is active today as ever? If so, then explain the following to us. Or are they all made up??
waynetee: Everything oyinbos knows was learnt from africa, everything!
Soooo, why haven't Africa gone to space, or invented AI, or self-drive like Teslar, or airplanes, or cars, or Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Linked-in, the stock market, bonds, Bitcoin, etc. One thing we're good at is religion - we even invented gods, infact we make them with our own hands, as you can see below!
An artefact is just a symbol. A piece of wood or bronze. It holds no intrinsic power.
So saying they ''stole the gods'' makes no sense.
It's like saying I ''stole Jesus'' if I carted away a box of crucifixes.
▪︎▪︎You cannot invent history off the top of your head, or type garbage, because many of us research this stuff, unlike you. It's been documented how colonialists deliberately had churches built along their conquest paths. It was all pre-planned. There was nothing random about anything they did.
YOU are a christian today because it was their agenda, and it was all about THEIR interests, not yours.
(The fact that you even need to be told this indicates how deeply programmed you are).
■■The Chinese, Indians, Japanese also had many such practices, in their religions, and simply updated them and CONTINUED WITH THEM.
Which is exactly what AFRICA should do.
●You are the one being dumb. They sell jesus statutes in the market, plus I can make one myself. Those African gods, they could not just make another one - because those statutes were the gods (see below)
▪︎▪︎They colonized India exactly same as Africa. Where are the churches? I told you before, all they needed was gun. Church simply tagged along
■■ See your selective reasoning. Why were they able to colonise them without church. Also India is backward today despite being a real giant precisely because of those vile superstitions and belief s and caste system and prostitution religion and billion gods, etc
Reflect7: FINISH. No prayer to God because you yourself are God made flesh.
Some god. God who can't make his own hair or nails stop growing, nor can he control workings of his liver or any of his own internal organs. His own o, talkless of someone else! Some god!
Reflect7: You've answered your own question. THEY WERE DESPERATE TO STOP OUR RELIGION, and that also accounts for why they looted so many treasures and artefacts.
And they are refusing to return them today because they are still scared that you might return to your powerful spiritual traditions that never tolerated corruption, crime, and other vices.
They need you to be corrupt, you see, so they can benefit.
And they know that 'Jesus' and 'Muhammed' and 'Allah' etc, don't mind if you're a thief or looter, so long as you ''accept them as your personal lord and saviour'.
Africa religion does not do 'forgiveness'.
During colonial rule, in southern Nigeria, they insisted that for one to access the wealth of the country they'd seized, one had to be educated in their 'missionary schools', and to gain access into the schools, you had to abandon your religion and be 'baptised', and even given a 'christian name'.
They executed this policy in the East especially with great ferocity. This is why every Igbo parent today feels obliged to give their child an English name in addition to their Igbo name.
It was all due to colonial economic blackmail and coercion.
Your attempt at twisting history is ridiculous. African gods don't do forgiveness but they forgave those who stole them to Europe to the extent they are thriving today so much that we want to japa there..
Your attempt at revisionism is ridiculous. The whites bringing Christianity were not a monolith at all. Protestants called Catholics vile names and Mary worshippers and vise versa. All the govt was interested in is you could read and write English, not religion.
Another thing, we completely forget the vile things, terrible superstitions, and measure of cruelty that went with worshipping those gods
Yeah, they were scared shirtless, that's why they bundled them up like firewood and shipped them to museums in Europe. Till today we are begging them to return our gods to us! ----- Moslem terrorists submitting to Jesus while others are dying for Allah:
Jagungidi: Oh yeah so how did he manage to win a Grammy with Beyoncé if he is virtually unknown?
In the music industry, being known and winning award with someone else are two different things. You are known when one of your solo sings plays constantly on the radio and people are forced to know you. Right now it is Peru by Fireboy