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| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:34pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
Guy going by your threads you have no faith in the Bible so you're just arguing blindly!  https://www.nairaland.com/6771978/man-advise-god-make-him https://www.nairaland.com/6783378/why-did-bible-end-revelations https://www.nairaland.com/6849153/how-many-fathers-heaven https://www.nairaland.com/6909313/god-spirit-what-does-it https://www.nairaland.com/6945720/what-curse-ada https://www.nairaland.com/6941774/why-dont-people-die-churches https://www.nairaland.com/6961839/conceived-jesus-christ-father-holy https://www.nairaland.com/6952514/gods-firstborn-jesus-christ-isreal https://www.nairaland.com/7081153/what-function-holy-ghost https://www.nairaland.com/7093441/did-jesus-die-those-lived https://www.nairaland.com/7087883/adam-not-cause-mankinds-problems https://www.nairaland.com/7179228/world-coming-end-it-getting https://www.nairaland.com/7232550/god-sabbath-it-jesus-christ https://www.nairaland.com/6970625/does-bible-endorse-human-sacrifice https://www.nairaland.com/7268407/why-did-god-plant-good https://www.nairaland.com/7339047/generation-having-less-sex-5han https://www.nairaland.com/7453647/these-last-days https://www.nairaland.com/7499141/did-god-really-curse-man https://www.nairaland.com/7515028/those-never-heard-jesus-what tctrills: |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 12:39pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Wrong again. Going by my threads I have great faith in the bible and I don't depend on guesswork but the revealed words. And like every child of God, I am not afraid to ask questions. Unlike you, you have no faith in the bible but in the words of old American men. Unlike you, I read and learn before I argue a point but you just feed on what a white man tells you. Now tell me, who among us is faithless. You believe in some white men while I believe in God. 1 Like |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:47pm On Apr 21, 2023*. Modified: 1:02pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
Always asking questions about the Bible and Christ without directing anyone to the BORN AGAIN Christian church where they can get answers shey? Why must you lie nah? According to Jesus Christ his Jewish disciples are the first set of teachers who must go out teaching others {Matthew 28:20} they are the BORN AGAIN that Christ will come into their midst anytime they're two or three in number so Christ can guide their thinking to the right answers when searching the scriptures {Matthew 18:20} so gentiles must rely on what this Jews teaches even though they need to verify by correlating what the Jewish Christians told them with what the prophets penned down about the Christ {Act 17:11} that's how Jesus Christ commissioned Christianity. So if you can't direct anyone to the church in which the BORN AGAIN Christians are teaching the truth about faith in Christ {Hebrews 13:7, 17} then you're a liar deceiving yourself. According to Christianity there are teachers who are BORN AGAIN Christians {Ephesians 4:11} it's the BORN AGAIN Christians that must teach others to handle these responsibilities. Ọmọ if you don't know all these but always questioning what the scriptures say on a forum not in a church where BORN AGAIN Christians are present to enlighten you then you're simply making mockery of God's word! tctrills: |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 1:59pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
Always asking questions about the Bible and Christ without directing anyone to the BORN AGAIN Christian church where they can get answers shey? Oga I am not a nairaland pastor like you. I am not here for marketing According to Jesus Christ his Jewish disciples are the first set of teachers who must go out teaching others {Matthew 28:20} they are the BORN AGAIN that Christ will come into their midst anytime they're two or three in number so Christ can guide their thinking to the right answers when searching the scriptures {Matthew 18:20} so gentiles must rely on what this Jews teaches even though they need to verify by correlating what the Jewish Christians told them with what the prophets penned down about the Christ {Act 17:11} that's how Jesus Christ commissioned Christianity. No where in the bible did Christ call any of his followers a born again. It's a personal thing. And yes the Gentiles got converted from the words of the Jewish apostles but the rewards are the same for both Jews and Gentiles. Now let me write it again please read. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: Do you see? The blessings are the same for both the Jews and Gentiles. No difference. Please show this to your American teachers and ask them to explain. So if you can't direct anyone to the church in which the BORN AGAIN Christians are teaching the truth about faith in Christ {Hebrews 13:7, 17} then you're a liar deceiving yourself. No really, I am not here to preach but to have fun. The bible is not against having fun. According to Christianity there are teachers who are BORN AGAIN Christians {Ephesians 4:11} it's the BORN AGAIN Christians that must teach others to handle these responsibilities. Please read before you quote. The word born again was not used or referred to in the entire book of Ephesians. You are not an illiterate don't just quote without even knowing what the verse you quote is talking about. Ọmọ if you don't know all these but always questioning what the scriptures say on a forum not in a church where BORN AGAIN Christians are present to enlighten you then you're simply making mockery of God's word! : I understand your spiritual slave masters teach you that it is evil to ask questions but the bible does not say so. These guys want you to remain under their chains. Bro learn to ask questions[/quote] |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MightySparrow: 3:47pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
According to Bible standard, I thank God I am born again. Romans 10: 9 +- 10. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:21pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
tctrills:LIAR! If you know the truth why not help in answering instead of asking questions on a forum that's full of athiests, agnostics, Judaists, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Traditionalists and many more? Ọmọ you're a disguised athiest that's why you are always questioning the faith instead of answering questions regarding faith so stop deceiving yourself! tctrills:The blessings aren't the same otherwise Jesus won't say something special is for the Jews {Matthew 10:6; 15:24} and the book of Revelation chapters 7 & 14 clearly revealed that there is a special number 144,000 and say that number is limited to Israelites only! Revelations 7:5-8; 14:1 So why not explain what happens in those verses if you truly believe in God's word and not some useless athiest looking for cheap arguments? tctrills:Oya go and ask those teaching you nah {Hebrews 13:7, 17} if we don't ask questions how do you think we are here answering questions and quoting verses with efficacy? Perhaps after teaching JWs our GB also give us a powerful charm to remember quoting verses to answer worthless atheists like you? Luke 12:11-12  1 Like |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 4:49pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=122660310]LIAR! If you know the truth why not help in answering instead of asking questions on a forum that's full of athiests, agnostics, Judaists, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Traditionalists and many more? Oga I know you can't understand but honestly, I have a life outside social media and clearly Nairaland is not a smart way of sharing my beliefs. Ọmọ you're a disguised athiest that's why you are always questioning the faith instead of answering questions regarding faith so stop deceiving yourself! Lol, If asking questions is a sin in JW, its not a sin to me. I am not a slave to your white man boss. I am able to ask even difficult questions.The blessings aren't the same otherwise Jesus won't say something special is for the Jews {Matthew 10:6; 15:24} and the book of Revelation chapters 7 & 14 clearly revealed that there is a special number 144,000 and say that number is limited to Israelites only! Revelations 7:5-8; 14:1 So I gave you a verse that says the blessings are the very same but then you bring up your 144k false doctrine. Please mention just one verse that teaches that these 144k servants of God would reap a bigger reward. Not one single verse says they would receive more or less than other children of God. You don't need to guess that the 144k would receive more or less of a reward because the bible never said so. So why not explain what happens in those verses if you truly believe in God's word and not some useless athiest looking for cheap arguments? Now let me teach you about the 144k servants. Read verse 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. So you see, it was not only 144k in the kingdom of God but a multitude no man could number. Now let's go on Verse 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. So these men were sealed for a specific job. They were called to serve in a special role. Now what was their job? what were they chosen to do? Let's go on. Rev 14 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. Here we see one of their duties was to sing. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. Here we see that they were chosen to be a part of the Saviour's entourage. They were chosen to travel with the Savior wherever he went. We also learned that they were all men. Is it now clear to you? Perhaps after teaching JWs our GB also give us a powerful charm to remember quoting verses to answer worthless atheists like you? Any idiot can quote a verse but then all the verses you quote never reflect on the topic. For example, you are yet to quote a single verse that teaches that only Jews can be born again. I would easily bet a million naira that you can't show any such verse. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:33pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
tctrills:LIAR! If you truly have a life outside social media and you don't want to get involved in what is happening here you wouldn't be here always questioning the faith and the Bible! tctrills:Why is it that you don't answer questions but keep asking if truly you believe in God's word? If someone should help you answer the above highlighted question you will still argue but do you think Adam existed before God created him out of the dust? Ọmọ you're an atheist. All creatures are products of reproductive system after the first pair created directly by God! Genesis 1:20-28 Only BORN AGAIN Christians can answer this question not atheists forming believer that's why we must humbly learn from them! 1 Like |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by Kobojunkie: 7:32pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
Man was born flesh and blood from his mother's womb. Jesus Christ told you this in His Gospel, affirming what God said in the beginning when He pointed out that man was made from the clay of this earth, not spirit - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7 5 Jesus answered, “Believe me when I say that everyone must be born from water and the Spirit. Anyone who is not born from water and the Spirit cannot enter God’s kingdom.You cannot ignore the detail given by Jesus Christ highlighted in blue above. To be born of the Spirit of the Eternal life of God is to be possessed by a power that wields control over your very being. If you do not have Him living 24/7 inside of you, you are not born-again.  |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by LottiOk: 8:31pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
How can 21st century people, b comfortable living their lives based on a medieval era storybook of savage goatherders. Who's understanding of d world,Life, existence was attributed to imaginary beings dey called gods. It's mind boggling how adults spew rubbish in defense of a stupid indoctrinated ideology,used 2 enslave,control & distract dem. Utterly shameless
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| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 8:33pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
LIAR! If you truly have a life outside social media and you don't want to get involved in what is happening here you wouldn't be here always questioning the faith and the Bible! So the definition of insanity is doing the same thing that doesn't work. Look at you for example, you spend each day laboring here for your white slave masters but with little or no results. I can't be like you. I believe in efficiency. Nairaland is not the platform. Its only my platform for fun. Why is it that you don't answer questions but keep asking if truly you believe in God's word? But I just answered your question on the 144k servants spoken about in Revelations If someone should help you answer the above highlighted question you will still argue but do you think Adam existed before God created him out of the dust? Ọmọ you're an atheist. All creatures are products of reproductive system after the first pair created directly by God! Genesis 1:20-28 Yes I don't think so. The bible teaches so. Jeremiah 1.5, Ephesians 1.4 |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:34pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
tctrills:LIAR! It's either you're in or you're out there's no sitting on the fence. If you want to learn then you continue asking questions from everyone but coming to say someone is wrong yet you can't present any group of worshipers who are getting things right it simply makes you an atheist! You always say you're here to catch fun when you are asked questions but when others are chatting based on what they've learned from their churches hopeless, worthless and useless athiests like you will jump in saying they're wrong whereas you have no school of thought to present as the source of your idea. If everyone is quoting the Bible just as you are doing then there's no need saying anyone is wrong because anybody can quote and interpret what he quoted to his own opinion. Guy you're a confirmed atheists deceiving yourself!  |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 10:42pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=122667184]LIAR! It's either you're in or you're out there's no sitting on the fence. If you want to learn then you continue asking questions from everyone but coming to say someone is wrong yet you can't present any group of worshipers who are getting things right it simply makes you an atheist! My goal was never to present you with a group it is only to point out the errors of your ways. You always say you're here to catch fun when you are asked questions but when others are chatting based on what they've learned from their churches hopeless, worthless and useless athiests like you will jump in saying they're wrong whereas you have no school of thought to present as the source of your idea. If everyone is quoting the Bible just as you are doing then there's no need saying anyone is wrong because anybody can quote and interpret what he quoted to his own opinion. The big difference between you and me is that you choose to interpret according to the guesswork and opinion of your white bosses. Now the bible is written in English so we can easily spot out a liar. For example Jesus Christ said you need to be born again to enter or see the kingdom of God. It is written in black and white. He also said And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: Guy you're a confirmed atheists deceiving yourself! I am ok with you calling me names as long as I keep getting this opportunities to enjoy your ignorance. You should be ashamed if a confirmed atheist is teaching you from your bible. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:55pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
tctrills:Lying atheist!  Who taught you how to find errors in what others say about the Bible? There are over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines. So all of them are wrong going by the opinion of each group therefore if you can't present a group for everyone to see the FRUIT of their faith {Matthew 7:16-18} how can you truly say what a group teaches is WRONG? Only atheists jump from place to place condemning the teachings of religious groups without presenting their own group because they're just looking for ways to justify their faithlessness. So ọmọ you are a confirmed atheist! |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 11:32pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
Who taught you how to find errors in what others say about the Bible? I am educated bro There are over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines. You are right so we prove their doctrines with the word of God. So all of them are wrong going by the opinion of each group therefore if you can't present a group for everyone to see the FRUIT of their faith {Matthew 7:16-18} how can you truly say what a group teaches is WRONG? So this is where you contradict yourself. Each of the 40k sects would present a different verse or interpretation of deciding the right group. For example you guys claim non involvement in politics and wars is how to figure the right group. 7 Adventist claim worshiping on Saturday is the right way. The pentecostals claim speaking in tongues. So the only way we can have a discuss is by proving these doctrines with the bible. The bible is the only common denominator. Only atheists jump from place to place condemning the teachings of religious groups without presenting their own group because they're just looking for ways to justify their faithlessness. It doesn't matter what you feel the definition of an atheist is but that does not change it's true meaning. You are not the dictionary. You are just another man on the street with zero authority. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:36am On Apr 22, 2023 |
tctrills:Exactly what all atheists often say! tctrills:You're a loony atheist guy if there's any group you meant as "WE" you supposed to present them so everyone can observe the practical application of what the Bible says in order to get the benefits but you're an atheist who only feel proud and not ready to submit to the same line of thought with anyone so there's no "WE" anywhere it's just you and you alone! tctrills:You're lying to your own soul! If it's just by quoting and arguing Jesus won't say "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} the fruit of faith is not just a dogma like speaking in tongues or worshiping in a certain day rather it's something that should be of great benefits to everyone {Isaiah 1:18} if we all WORK towards it {James 2:18-26} there are many religions with different books and each has their own dogma as written in their books but the Bible stands out for one reason: what it teaches is not just obeying some useless rules without benefits that's why the Author revealed the benefits expected of His true worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 tctrills:Atheists are people who doesn't want willing submission to any line of thought unless they are forced to comply with WEAPONS. That is what you are and that's why you're arguing up and down never ready to comply to the teaching of any group of worshipers yet claiming a believer! |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 7:09am On Apr 22, 2023 |
You're a loony atheist guy if there's any group you meant as "WE" you supposed to present them so everyone can observe the practical application of what the Bible says in order to get the benefits but you're an atheist who only feel proud and not ready to submit to the same line of thought with anyone so there's no "WE" anywhere it's just you and you alone! But you presented a group that continues to fail when measured against the bible. It's funny you are mentioning the bible when you really don't believe in it. The Bible says you can't be part of God's kingdom if you are not born again. You take pride in being a member of a manmade group that teaches and expresses the ideas of a few men while you and the others swallow. You're lying to your own soul! If it's just by quoting and arguing Jesus won't say "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} the fruit of faith is not just a dogma like speaking in tongues or worshiping in a certain day rather it's something that should be of great benefits to everyone {Isaiah 1:18} if we all WORK towards it {James 2:18-26} there are many religions with different books and each has their own dogma as written in their books but the Bible stands out for one reason: what it teaches is not just obeying some useless rules without benefits that's why the Author revealed the benefits expected of His true worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 You see what I say? You would define the fruits of your faith according to your terms and beliefs just the same way an Adventist would define them according to his term. Do you even know the meaning of dogma? Not participating in politics is a JW dogma. I advise you to use your dictionary sometimes. It would help you understand the meaning of the words you throw around. Atheists are people who doesn't want willing submission to any line of thought unless they are forced to comply with WEAPONS. That is what you are and that's why you're arguing up and down never ready to comply to the teaching of any group of worshipers yet claiming a believer! : Oga it's ok if you want to create your own language and definitions but as long as we are using the English language, you keep making a fool of yourself. History has records of many atheists who refused to submit even at the point of death, One reason I like you is that even when you are saying nonsense, you feel no shame and you are proud to repeat it. I just hope you don't help your kids with their English assignments oh 2 Likes |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:26am On Apr 22, 2023 |
tctrills:God's word has listed names of faithful people who never had or did anything pertaining to water or spirit baptism and they were faithful all their lives. Jesus even said John the baptist will not be part of a certain group of people {Matthew 11:11-12} so you don't understand what you're quoting, athiests! |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 8:43am On Apr 22, 2023 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=122670877]God's word has listed names of faithful people who never had or did anything pertaining to water or spirit baptism and they were faithful all their lives. Jesus even said John the baptist will not be part of a certain group of people {Matthew 11:11-12} so you don't understand what you're quoting, athiests! : Another guesswork. How do you know they were not baptized? Must you assume? The only Apostle whose baptism is recorded is Paul not even Peter. So don't say what you don't know. 1 Like |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05am On Apr 22, 2023 |
tctrills:Funny atheist! Has anything called baptism been mentioned before in the Bible? Why do you think the first person who initiated baptism was called "John the baptist"? Guy never was anyone baptized before the time of John the baptist so pick another lie! 1 Like |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 9:42am On Apr 22, 2023 |
Has anything called baptism been mentioned before in the Bible? That's my point, Just because it was not mentioned does not mean you should assume. You are purely speculating. Also you seem not to know that baptism took place much before John. Now sit back and let's read the bible. Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; Why do you think the first person who initiated baptism was called "John the baptist"? Can you learn something here? Even before the Baptism of John was the Baptism of Moses. Guy never was anyone baptized before the time of John the baptist so pick another lie! : You have no record to show for this. You are purely speculating. If you had said that you don't know if baptism took place in the old testament I would understand. But just because it's not yet revealed does not mean it did not happen. Many things happened that are not written. Stop the guesswork |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:27am On Apr 22, 2023 |
tctrills:Ooooooollllleeeeeee! Thief, Forming believer! The reason (according to the scriptures) why Jesus is calling the Messiah (Christ) is because there has never been any before his time nor will there ever be after him, also the reason why John is called the baptist is because there has never been any baptizer before him nor will there ever be after him. In fact that's why Jesus could say about John the baptist: "Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11 John baptized the Jews in preparation for the coming of the Christ and he also baptized the Christ himself but he will not partake of the baptism of Holy Spirit whereas those following Jesus will baptize people into Christ and also partake of the baptism of the Holy Spirit! Stop arguing blindly if you don't know something we will teach you the meaning of those sacred writings, i won't ask you a single question if i don't have the answer ready because we know Christ's brothers and we have humbled ourselves to learn from them! |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 11:45am On Apr 22, 2023 |
also the reason why John is called the baptist is because there has never been any baptizer before him nor will there ever be after him. In fact that's why Jesus could say about John the baptist: Wrong guesswork. Where is this written in the scripture? You don't need to make things up for argument's sake. In fact, after the death of John, baptism continued so you are clearly wrong. There were many after him. Baptism still goes on today. Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is[/color]" Matthew 11:11 Are you kidding? This verse says nothing about John being the first and only baptized. it only talks about his greatness. Oga, are you ok? John baptized the Jews in preparation for the coming of the Christ and he also baptized the Christ himself but he will not partake of the baptism of Holy Spirit whereas those following Jesus will baptize people into Christ and also partake of the baptism of the Holy Spirit! Now you see, you contradict yourself. Stop arguing blindly if you don't know something we will teach you the meaning of those sacred writings, i won't ask you a single question if i don't have the answer ready because we know Christ's brothers and we have humbled ourselves to learn from them! Lol. I would willingly allow you to teach me if you agree not to teach nonsense. You just claimed that "the reason why John is called the baptist is because there has never been any baptizer before him nor will there ever be after him." is the nonsense you want to teach me? First, we both know that there was baptism after Jonh's death so you can't be right. Secondly, I just presented you with a scripture that says the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses. Clearly, I am the only one doing the teaching here but you are not listening. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:55pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
tctrills:Disguised athiest claiming believer! Why not contend the fact that Jesus is the one and only person called Christ in the Bible? Ọmọ you just feel like talking back at least any honest hearted and sincere individual can see that you're just an impostor claiming believer! There has never been any baptizer before John and there was none apart from Jesus' disciples baptizing people into Christianity. John baptized the Jews in preparation for the coming of the Christ so he knows nothing about Christianity but the laws of Moses but the apostles were baptizing people not for the Mosaic laws anymore rather they're baptizing people into Christ. Ọmọ humble yourself and learn arguing blindly out of pride won't lead you nowhere, i purposely take you up on this to expose you as an atheist questioning the faith. You have no church to attend unlike real believers that subject themselves to the same line of thought with other believers {Ephesians 4:3} that's why you can't point to any church because you're an atheist disguising! 2Corinthians 11:14-15 |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 1:22pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Why not contend the fact that Jesus is the one and only person called Christ in the Bible? Yes, Jesus is the only Christ in the bible how does that have to do with our topic? Please come back to the topic. There has never been any baptizer before John and there was none apart from Jesus' disciples baptizing people into Christianity. Your opinion which is wrong. If you have a bible verse that supports this claim lets have it. John baptized the Jews in preparation for the coming of the Christ so he knows nothing about Christianity but the laws of Moses but the apostles were baptizing people not for the Mosaic laws anymore rather they're baptizing people into Christ. This again is off-topic or what is your point here? Ọmọ humble yourself and learn arguing blindly out of pride won't lead you nowhere, i purposely take you up on this to expose you as an atheist questioning the faith. Comedy. You are only exposing your lack of knowledge. I just taught you that the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses. I bet you have never come across that all your life until today. I bet even your governing body doesn't teach you guys stuff like this. And you are welcome. You have no church to attend unlike real believers that subject themselves to the same line of thought with other believers { that's why you can't point to any church because you're an atheist disguising! Real believers do not rely upon guesswork. Real believers do not follow a man-made religion. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:21pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
tctrills:Prideful atheist! John is the one and only baptist before Christ in the Bible that's why he is called "John the baptist" |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 4:31pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
John is the one and only baptist before Christ in the Bible that's why he is called "John the baptist" No sir, the bible never suggested that he was the only baptist and it was never said that the title "The Baptist" was because he was the one and only Baptist before Christ. You JW guys made that up. Please can you quote from the bible? I could bet a hundred thousand, the bible never taught that John was the first man to practice baptism. You need to stop the guesswork, It's actually very simple to guess but it is usually wrong. I can guess about 10 other reasons why John was called the Baptist. So your guesswork is unacceptable sir. About being prideful, I actually am not. I have given you the opportunity to prove your point from the bible. That is not pride. If you show where it is written that John was the first to baptize immediately I would believe you. So the ball is in your court. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:16pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Atheist forming believer. There was no Christ before Jesus and there was no baptist before John! tctrills: |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 6:53pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:This is childish logic and it makes little sense. Again you are only depending on very base human logic. But then, let's play along with your logic. How can you tell that there was no Baptist before John? The Bible never said there was no baptist before John. Another flaw in your logic is that there was no Christ after Jesus but lots of people performed baptism after John so your logic does not check out. But then, its all human logic and that is not the way to comprehend eternal truths. Finally, we learn that the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses so your logic cant be correct. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
tctrills:Before Jesus there's no Christ just as there's no baptist before John! tctrills:Illustration! How many knew they were getting baptized? Who was the baptist? Did they got wet like the baptism by John? After they crossed the red sea, did their children continue getting baptized? I won't teach you what that means but John the baptist is the greatest of all those born of women before Christ {Matthew 11:11} it's because of the baptism work which no man has ever done before then! |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by tctrills: 7:23pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
Before Jesus there's no Christ just as there's no baptist before John! Human logic. Again, after Christ there was no other Christ but after John many other baptist so even that logic does not add up. I How many knew they were getting baptized? Who was the baptist? Very good questions but they should be directed to Paul. But from what we learn baptism took place years before John was born. Did they got wet like the baptism by John? After they crossed the red sea, did their children continue getting baptized? Baptism means to be dipped in water I won't teach you what that means but John the baptist is the greatest of all those born of women before Christ {Matthew 11:11} it's because of the baptism work which no man has ever done before then! ] Guesswork at work, the bible never said so. Really why don't you guys ever ask questions in your church. You just swallow the nonsense you are given. Anyone can guess anything. For example, I could say he was the greatest because he was equally a secret scientist that made great discoveries. When it comes to guess work, any nonsense is accepted. |
| Re: What Is Being Born Again? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31pm On Apr 22, 2023 |
tctrills:No baptist after John! John baptized for the purpose of Mosaic laws regarding the Old Covenant that's why his name was attached to baptism but after him Jesus initiated baptism into the New covenant and he never baptize anyone it's his disciples that were carrying it out that's why none of them could be called "BAPTIST" Regarding what Paul said i won't teach you it's obvious the Israelites weren't baptized in a literal sense! |
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