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SIRTee15:
Don't run away from my question. Answer it.
Is the wife and harlot one in flesh now since the has united with both.

Is the man married to the harlot?

MiddleDimension:
It is not my opinion. go back and read 2 Cor 11 vs 1-3. it says:

"I wish you would tolerate me, even when I am a bit foolish. Please do! 2 I am jealous for you, just as God is; you are like a pure virgin whom I have promised in marriage to one man only, Christ himself. 3 I am afraid that[b] your minds [/b] will be corrupted and that you will abandon your full and pure devotion to Christ—in the same way that Eve was deceived by the snake's clever lies."

The bolded, which is plural, shows that he was not addressing the church as a single entity, BUT THE INDIVIDUAL CHRISTIANS AND THAT WHY HE USED THE PLURAL "MINDS"! IF HE WERE REFERING TO THE CHURCH AS A BODY IN VS 2, HE WON'T HAVE GONE ON TO USE THE PLURAL "MINDS". He would have used the singular!

So Jesus will be married to many Christians as possible individually.

Yes! And he is not going to, he already has, the moment you accept hum as your lord and saviour. You know nothing about christian mysticism! If did not know that, know it now, that the moment you accept jesus as your lord and god, he became your husband, and you, his wife! That is what the verse I quoted is saying. You all don't know the truth and when it is put before you, you cannot comprehend it.

When will these marriage take place, who will coordinate the union.
How will new Christians arrange their own individual wedding with Christ. In what way is this union conducted in physically.

It has already taken place the moment you accept him as your god.


My friend Christ is married to the church as the bridegroom and head of the church. It's an eternal union established once and for all. There are no repeated weddings for any other person. because there's only ONE CHURCH

yes, he is married to the church and no one is disputing that. what we are saying is: if he is married to the church, it is first of all a consequence of him being married to you first of all! This is the depth of christian marriage, whuch you do not understand.

See blatant heresy!!! U go fear.

Let me ask u a question, who got married to Jesus Christ first. Myself or the church?

AntiChristian:
Olodo!

Bible just said Ethiopia!

Don't be ignorant!

Learn!

And that means a second wife? I thought your Qur'an is the perfect book. Show us where moses married a second wife in the Qur'an and the name of the second wife you cursed terrorist

AntiChristian:
How come he's related to David?

Stupid question
How is Muhammad related to Ibrahim and moses

Kukutente23:
You people and lies. Did he adopt the son in accordance with Islamic practice or the practice of his people? You daftos fail to realise Muhammad was just making up things to suit his lust and agenda.
It was because of his intent to snatch his son's wife that adoption became unacceptable in Islam
He's the only Muslim given the right to marry more than four women. I thought Islam is just

Your God is just yet favour Israel despite them not worshipping him. He gave David tens of WIVES!

How many thousands did your God authorised to be killed?

Do you even know what justice is?

Elisha can curse 42 lads to death in the name of God!
God can send his son to be killed!
In Genesis 38, God killed the first son of Judah for his unmentioned sin!

God killed the second for spilling sperm not wanting to procreate on behalf of his brother!

The father Judah slept with her daughter in law in harlotry and she was impregnated.

She born twins and God blessed them.

This is justice for the ancestors of Jesus!

AntiChristian:
Look for the accursed like Jesus at home!

Jesus can't be accursed because he resurrected and ascended into heaven.
The accursed one is he who died through poisoning at the hands of a woman and remains dead as a dodo

Kukutente23:
Stupid question
How is Muhammad related to Ibrahim and moses

They are brothers by prophethood!
How's Jesus related to David since you said he has no earthly father?

Kukutente23:
And that means a second wife? I thought your Qur'an is the perfect book. Show us where moses married a second wife in the Qur'an and the name of the second wife you cursed terrorist

Did your eyes ever see me mention Qur'an here?
Qur'an is not a story book that contains genealogy of Moses and others!

As far as I know, Moses had two wives. One is Zipporah and the other is an Ethiopian!

Kukutente23:
Jesus can't be accursed because he resurrected and ascended into heaven.
The accursed one is he who died through poisoning at the hands of a woman and remains dead as a dodo

You and your family are Christlike!

You're accursed too

AntiChristian:
Is the man married to the harlot?

Is he no longer one flesh to the harlot. Maybe u need to check what u wrote earlier.
I know it's a long day so memory may have been weary but go back and check what u wrote.

AntiChristian:
You and your family are Christlike!

You're accursed too

We're Christlike. We have hope of salvation
Is there salvation in Islam?

Kukutente23:
We're Christlike. We have hope of salvation
Is there salvation in Islam?

Our salvation is not based on God sending his son who happens to be himself to die!

Abeg! Esi, good night!

AntiChristian:
Did your eyes ever see me mention Qur'an here?
Qur'an is not a story book that contains genealogy of Moses and others!

As far as I know, Moses had two wives. One is Zipporah and the other is an Ethiopian!

Oh Qur'an is not a story book now?
Who is Musa and why is the story of his birth and upbringing in the Qur'an? Is the Qur'an a newspaper? The lying djinn in you is too strong.
Tell us Moses' second wife in the quran or the Qur'an is also lying about Moses having only one wife!!

AntiChristian:
They are brothers by prophethood!
How's Jesus related to David since you said he has no earthly father?

Abraham is a prophet of Yahweh. Is Mumuhamad also a prophet of Yahweh? There's nothing Islamists cannot steal.

Jesus is related to David through his mother you Dumbo. I never knew Islam recognises a child through the mother's bloodline

AntiChristian:
Your God is just yet favour Israel despite them not worshipping him. He gave David tens of WIVES!

How many thousands did your God authorised to be killed?

Do you even know what justice is?

Elisha can curse 42 lads to death in the name of God!
God can send his son to be killed!
In Genesis 38, God killed the first son of Judah for his unmentioned sin!

God killed the second for spilling sperm not wanting to procreate on behalf of his brother!

The father Judah slept with her daughter in law in harlotry and she was impregnated.

She born twins and God blessed them.

This is justice for the ancestors of Jesus!

A father sleeping with his dead son's wife is incest according to an Islamists but a father sleeping with his adopted son's wife is in order.
Your brain is twisted

SIRTee15:
Whether the book is fraud is irrelevant here.
The fact remain u are a slave to a system based on principles derived from the book.
U can live a lie but cant deny it in your closet.
Live with it.
What a shame that u are forced to live your life within a system designed from a fraud book.

Furthermore, thank the fraud book for the good life u live now.
Otherwise, u would likely be picking sugar or cotton in a slave plantation with a white nigga whipping your bare back for being too slow to pick cotton.
That book saved u from such trauma.

"I made a solemn vow before God, that if General Lee was driven back from Maryland I would crown the result by the declaration of freedom to the slaves."

Abraham Lincoln on the emancipation declaration 1863.

As for the book becoming irrelevant, don't worry your head about that. God definitely preserve his message and book for eternity. It's not even a sweat.

The modern definition of slavery is not for the hands and legs to be forced in chains but of the mind to be groomed with it.

You are a classic example of the slave who should have been saved if only he knew he was a slave.


And your opinion that the system of the world currently is based upon the principles derived from the fraud book is baseless and unfounded.
It can only come from a brainwashed and religiously indoctrinated brain like yours.

As for your trash talk of being a slave if not for some hero, you can guess or predict whatever you like, its just a guess at best and you are free to have one coming from your dead brain.

AntiChristian:
Our salvation is not based on God sending his son who happens to be himself to die!

Abeg! Esi, good night!

Salvation in Islam

Oya quote the part of your fraudulent Qur'an that established your salvation

Don't run away o.
Okpomoriorior

MiddleDimension:
Him giving David his wives is not in the same sense he gave them kings.

The man is the figure of God in a christian marriage. He can have more than one wife since God can have more than one individual as his bride. You, @Phemmyfour, are God's wife, if you are a born-again, and Oyedepo, Adeboye, etc, are also God's brides, if they are born-agains. Your describes himself as the husband of two wives. In Jeremiah 31: 31-32, it says He is the husband of Samaria and Judah. Hoe about that?
So, you can now see and agree that God did not give David his wives the same way he gave them kings.

I understand we are all ignorant with most of the things that exist so, I can forgive your ignorance on this issue and using an example that has nothing to do with the topic.

You can quote it to suit your purpose. Deep down in your heart, you know that you are deceiving yourself

sotall:
The modern definition of slavery is not for the hands and legs to be forced in chains but of the mind to be groomed with it.

You are a classic example of the slave who should have been saved if only he knew he was a slave.


And your opinion that the system of the world currently is based upon the principles derived from the fraud book is baseless and unfounded.
It can only come from a brainwashed and religiously indoctrinated brain like yours.

As for your trash talk of being a slave if not for some hero, you can guess or predict whatever you like, its just a guess at best and you are free to have one coming from your dead brain.

Pele u will be fine.
Modern definition of slavery is when u live your life based on the Judeo-Christian value system but yet deny it.
The capitalist system, the judicial system, the political system came from institution devolve from within church hundreds of years ago.
In fact, u communicate in English because some church committee made that decision 600yrs ago.

Mercisharelove:
Please read

Jesus said: "From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. So they are no longer two but one flesh.


Marriage discussion


Matthew 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?


19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,


19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?


19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder


. 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?


19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.


19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


19:10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.



19:11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.



19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

What do you understand by the matt 19v11 you quoted?

Harrynight:
Learn to read with comprehension

Learn to write comprehensively.

sotall:
Trash coming from your brainwashed brain.

Familiar rhetoric: when people have nothing to say, they rely on name calling and profanity to mask their ignorance.

SIRTee15:
Pele u will be fine.
Modern definition of slavery is when u live your life based on the Judeo-Christian value system but yet deny it.
The capitalist system, the judicial system, the political system came from institution devolve from within church hundreds of years ago.
In fact, u communicate in English because some church committee made that decision 600yrs ago.

Pathetic! A slave that could have been saved if only he recognized he was a slave. Even till this moment, you are still one.

I wasn't born hundreds of years ago and Whatever events took place is not for me to change ...

And now that i am here, i am proud to reject Christianity/Bible which was used to enslave those that were here before me but definitely not me.

If you have a problem with that, go hit your head on a wall.

PythonTutorials:
But why did God not condemn David for marrying so many wives 🤔

This one hit the nail on the op head.

Mercisharelove:
Please read

Jesus said: "From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. So they are no longer two but one flesh.


Marriage discussion


Matthew 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?


19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,


19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?


19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder


. 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?


19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.


19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


19:10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.



19:11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.



19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Jesus himself wasn't married. Why are Christians getting married?

AntiChristian:
Lies from the pit of hell!

Posts on polygamy here on Nairaland

Read More post on the allowance of Polygamy in the Bible on Nairaland.

1. If He Marries Another Woman..

https://www.nairaland.com/7032447/he-marries-another-woman

2. God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife)

https://www.nairaland.com/7029702/god-said-he-gave-wives

3. The Context Is DIVORCE NOT POLYGAMY

https://www.nairaland.com/7032858/context-divorce-not-polygamy

4. Jesus Used A Parable That Includes Polygamy

https://www.nairaland.com/7029727/jesus-used-parable-includes-polygamy

5. Polygamy In Christianity- (one Flesh)

https://www.nairaland.com/7029678/polygamy-christianity-one-flesh

6. Why Did Yahweh Support Polygamy?

https://www.nairaland.com/6093345/why-did-yahweh-support-polygamy

Tell them.

sotall:
Pathetic! A slave that could have been saved if only he recognized he was a slave. Even till this moment, you are still one.

I wasn't born hundreds of years ago and Whatever events took place is not for me to change ...

And now that i am here, i am proud to reject Christianity/Bible which was used to enslave those that were here before me but definitely not me.

If you have a problem with that, go hit your head on a wall.

Hahaha
Rejecting christianity but enjoying the benefit it brought. How so convenient to reject the bible.
If u want to be truly free, u build your own system independent of Judeo-Christian values.
Otherwise u just a noise maker. Simple.
Ironically this guy running his mouth may be slaving his life away in a western country based on this Judeo-Christian value system.
If above is true then it's very pathetic to say the least.

SIRTee15:
Hahaha
Rejecting christianity but enjoying the benefit it brought. How so convenient to reject the bible.
If u want to be truly free, u build your own system independent of Judeo-Christian values.
Otherwise u just a noise maker. Simple.
Ironically this guy running his mouth may be slaving his life away in a western country based on this Judeo-Christian value system.
If above is true then it's very pathetic to say the least.

Mumu!
Before Christianity there was a system already in place.

Many of the stories in the bible have been written in other cultures/religions thousands of years before Christianity/bible came to copy them.

You sound daft to assume Christianity formed the foundation upon which our present system is based.

Go do some search and see that the bible is just a cooy-cat book written by some white folks to enslave your mind.
Stop coming online to disgrace yourself!

MiddleDimension:
...So, you were right when you said Paul gave that advice so that they can concentrate on their work in the vineyard. He does not want them to be pulled in two directions, like he said in the bolded. But those, like @Dtruthspeaker and @Vdestro, who want to remain ignorant, will ignore this and instead keep believing the lies he was told by those who know nothing about the authentic christian teachings, or the mind of God concerning the matter...

You are just deceiving yourself. Clearly, Paul's statement shows that a man with one wife is preferable and more acceptable to God. Thus, anyone who wants to be close to God and and yet desires marriage, has seen a way.

PythonTutorials:
But why did God not condemn David for marrying so many wives 🤔

Because He did things worse than cheating on his wife and marrying wuhores.

Bluezy13:
Last time I checked, your Bible has it that David had more than 1 wife, Elkanah had 2 wives, Solomon had 700 wives.

Is your Bible confused or you are

And God did not praise any of them nor extol us to walk as they have walked.

Dtruthspeaker:
And God did not praise any of them nor extol us to walk as they have walked.

Nor did he frown upon it.