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Christianity EtcRe: What Is Grace? by pressplay411(op):
jesusjnr:
The word grace from the gospel perspective means two different things:

1. The Spirit of God

2. The second chance of God.

Now the first was what God had spoken to apostle Paul about, when he told him "my grace is sufficient for you", for it is similar to His saying "it's not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit".

Therefore God was actually telling Paul to be more dependent on His Spirit and not on his own personal ability or knowledge to carry out the task that He'd saddled him with, for as He also said "my strength is made perfect in weakness", and God's strength is the capacity of His Spirit.

Then grace in the second sense is the window that God created for the righteous and obedient descendants of Adam to enable them escape the eternal damnation of his disobedience which they inherited from him being his seed.

Therefore the idea is for the righteous and the obedient not to suffer the consequence of another man's (Adam) decisions or actions having shown that they would have done things differently had they been in man shoes.

So it was meant to help them make their obedience and righteousness good and eternal life worthy, as if to wipe the slate clean and start afresh from the beginning, so that by doing what God commanded them to do, they would not perish as man did but have eternal life.

So that's the huge job God grace had done for mankind, to give them the same opportunity that man had in the beginning, without the condemnation of any other person's actions upon their own head, for Adam didn't inherit the consequence of any other person's disobedience but only lost his eternal life because of his.

So in a sense because of God's grace, if they would be punished, it wouldn't be for Adam's sins(Disobedience) which Jesus died for, but for their own sins(disobedience) just as Adam himself was punished for his own sins(disobedience).

So in a nut shell that's what Grace, the second chance of God, has made available to the descendants of Adam.
Well said, that's also right.
Everything we have in Grace is supplied through the Spirit of God and is another chance given to us undeservedly.

My definitions were also derived from the different contexts Grace is used scripturally. Do check the scriptures I referenced.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Grace? by pressplay411(op): 11:23pm On Jun 01, 2019
Maximus69:
Adam is a sinner who deserves to die{Genesis 3:19} so all his children are doomed for life to continue dying and their age limit diminishing! Psalms 49:7-12 Romans 5:12
So for God to have taken the step to redeem Adam's children in order to restore them back to his first plan for Adam which is living forever, it's kindness NOT deserved or GRACE!
God's good plans is for OBEDIENT children of DISOBEDIENT Adam, whoever remains disobedient amongst Adam's descendants can't attain to that special favour!
So we don't deserve all what God is doing to redeem us,therefore we need to show appreciation for his undeserved kindness{GRACE}
That only saving grace is to IDENTIFY his only begotten son who will teach us how to please his father well { John 3:16-18} Jesus laid down the principles and handed it over to few faithful Jews whom he gave the task to go and TEACH all other people! Matthew 28:20
Satan is determined to complicate issues by establishing different kinds of religion all in the name of Jesus{God's son} This will make it difficult for both obedient and arrogant descendants of Adam to know exactly what Jesus taught which is the only saving grace! That is why Satan made sure that all the pioneers of Jesus' teachings were killed but before then they had penned everything down for OBEDIENT individuals to know all that their Master, Lord and King taught them. Revelations 12:17
Today there are many religious groups teaching people what is common traditions of men, but Jesus' true followers are in the neighbourhood ready to teach us the bitter truth that's not according to man's tradition which have been manipulated countless times by Satan! So everywhere people see them, they hate them because their teachings is not in tune with common human traditions! John 17:14-16
While the GRACE is for all, it will only benefit those who are able to IDENTIFY Jesus' true followers whom an ancient prophet called JEWS in a spiritual sense! Zachariah 8:23
That is why another prophet said salvation of many is dicey! Zephaniah 2:2-3 compared to Luke 13:24
Thanks!
How Satan corrupted the gospel of Grace is astounding. He truly is crafty and divisive.
Thanks for sharing.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Grace? by pressplay411(op): 11:20pm On Jun 01, 2019
orisa37:
Grace is The Blessings of God that make you act, interact and move freely without discrimination or incrimination of sort.
What do you mean by incrimination?
Christianity EtcRe: About Depression And Suicide by pressplay411(op): 5:01pm On Jun 01, 2019
jesusjnr:
You have a point with respect to the right understanding of the gospel of Jesus, for it was actually that knowledge that kick started my walk at my current level of faith, and unsurprisingly the inspiration behind my affinity with the Words of Jesus.

For it opened my eyes to see it in a different light as it was actually the basis upon which His Words were hinged, so It made me better appreciate it for the unprecedented treasure that it is, and hence give it the kind of respect that
it deserves.

That up til now I still wonder how people are not able to see the extent of capacity I see in those Words, but at the same time i'm able to understand that this what Jesus meant when he said that unless the knowledge is given to someone, that he cannot receive it.

Thanks a lot bro and God bless.
You're welcome brother.
More Grace and Understanding and Capacity to us all.
Christianity EtcRe: Light And Darkness by pressplay411(op): 5:00pm On Jun 01, 2019
jesusjnr:
You are right that you and I are the church, for I believe we represent the true church, but in terms of the apparent church even what is observed as the church by men, that it hardly reflects the true church that we are and represent.

Therefore that's the church I often refer to when I speak about the church, for it's the apparent church i'm talking about, for there used to be a time when the apparent church meant the same thing as the true church, but not as we speak for the apparent church has deviated from that and now become more or less the false church even though it started as the true church.

But from the knowledge I have be entrusted with the true church is coming back as it was in the beginning when it was the apparent church, so all these efforts form part of the process towards achieving that as you can see the true Word being sown as it was in those days, so bro the harvest is inevitable.

Therefore it is going happen as it was in those days, for when you have the same quality of Word sown, which would result in the harvest of same quality of obedience, sacrifice, love etc., expect the same quality of the Spirit and you know the implications of that, yeah, the mighty Works of God are coming with a fury.

So you're right bro it's gonna happen like it has never happened since the beginning of the church, for the problem has always been man's part, never God's part, for God is always ready.

And God told me recently that my part is the hard part, but that I've done it, so it's His part which is the easy part that's left.

And I know it's only moments away, so it behoves us to get ourselves and the people hearts ready for what I think is the last move of God that would take place before the second coming of Christ.

Have a Spirit-filled day.
Amen.
Same to you.
Welcome to the glorious month of June.
Christianity EtcIdentity Crisis- Know Thyself by pressplay411(op):
Identity Crisis- Know Thyself
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Before my salvation or rededication to Christ, I became an atheist.
I operated my life on a mishmash of principles and ideologies. Some scientific, some philosophical, some psychological, some Hollywood, some horoscopical and some cultural.
The hardest part was I had to start extenuating myself from these belief systems. I had to begin to renew my mind by replacing them and transforming my mindset with the Word of God.

Why did I bring this up?
Even as an unbeliever, something helped me a lot. An understanding of my identity as a terrestrial being (flesh). Because I came to understand myself as a man, I could operate without religion.
The most significant part of it was knowing my dual nature as a Cusp. Also an understanding of my Temperaments. It helped me manage myself and to understand and manage others too.

Where am I getting at?
Until a believer understands His Identity as a New Creation, he would be tossed to and fro.
Until you understand that you're a triune being (3 in 1) in Christ, you won't be able to Develop your Spirit, Renew your Mind and Discipline your Flesh. That the WHOLE of you may be presented blameless before God. 1 Thessalonians 5:23

Please, Christianity is Discipleship of Christ.
Join the Foundation Classes in your church. Without a good foundation, there's nothing strong to build the structure upon.
It is also a test of Humility. And Grace abounds in Humility.
Christianity EtcWhat Is Grace? by pressplay411(op):
Knowledge with Understanding is Power and Deliverance. That is what produces the Wisdom of God in Man.

Our definition/understanding of Grace determines what it can make out of us.
Grace, like every other identity of God is multifaceted.

-There's a dimension of Grace that is defined as God's Unmerited Favour. Ephesians 2:8
-There's another dimension of Grace that is defined as Access to God's unlimited provisions and supplies. 2 Corinthians 9:8
-There's yet another dimension of Grace which is defined as the Enablement of God to become like Christ. Titus 2:11-12

Those who only define Grace as Unmerited Favour can easily be misled to think they can continue in sin as Grace abounds. But in the words of Apostle Paul, God Forbid.

Those who define Grace as Access to God's unlimited provisions and supplies tend to be easily misled with the gospel of prosperity (financial, money)

Those who define Grace as Enablement for Christ-likeness more often than not tend to be self-righteous.

But those who define Grace in the Light of all three definitions walk in the Wholeness of the Manifestation of Grace.

Grace truly is the Unmerited Favour of God that gives us Access to the All-sufficiency of God through the blood of Jesus Christ and supplies us with the enablement to be like Christ for the establishment of God's Kingdom and Righteousness.

Grace and Understanding to us all.
Christianity EtcRe: Unforgiveness: Why Not Forgive And Find Peace? by pressplay411(op): 12:09pm On Jun 01, 2019
Question: But How can I forgive someone who has done so much evil to me? How can I forgive someone who continues to hate me and plan evil against me?

Answer: I have come to know through scriptures and preachings, that no, it is not that person that is hurting you, it is not that person that is doing this evil against you.
It is the devil. It is the evil inside man that makes him commit evil. It is the sinful nature that has overtaken the person. Your enemy is that Devil, that evil spirit. Your enemy is Satan.
Stop fighting the wrong enemy. That person you have taken as your enemy is a potential evangelist, a potential child of God, a potential brother and sister, a potential agent of light. He only needs to encounter Christ or re-encounter Christ afresh.
When this mindset is formed in you. You will become enburdened to fight the good fight of faith. You will receive the spirit of an intercessor. Instead of anger, you will love your so called "enemies" And you will begin to pray for the salvation of their souls.
If and only if you yourself have encountered the Salvation of Christ.

However, beware of Tares, some people are agents of Satan himself planted to pull you out from Christ.
Be sensitive.
Let God guide you. Let Love Lead you. Love wins always. Even if it seems that Love does not win physically, it wins spiritually and ultimately.

The death of Christ which seemed like a colossal loss to the disciples initially, was ultimately for them and us all to receive the Holy Spirit and Experience the Salvation Power of God as Christ now lives through us, as many who believe.
Halleluyah!

Forgive and be Forgiven. Live, Love and Worship.
Happy New Month of June friends.
Christianity EtcRe: Unforgiveness: Why Not Forgive And Find Peace? by pressplay411(op): 12:09pm On Jun 01, 2019
I urge us to each let go of every national anger, racial, tribal and religious hatred and family feuds.
Some of us have to forgive our parents.
Some of us have to forgive our children.
Some of us have to forgive our spouses.
Some of us have to forgive our exes and friends that betrayed us.
Some of us have to forgive our bosses.
Some of us have to forgive our colleagues and subordinates.
Some of us have to forgive our pastors.
Some of us have to forgive our congregation.
Some of us have to forgive the Church as a Body of Christ and return to the gathering of saints.
Some of us have to forgive ourselves personally by experiencing the Power of the Mercies of God. When God forgives you, no matter what you may have done, no matter the seemingly unforgivable evil you committed, because of the Blood of Jesus Christ, you will be forgiven.

Unforgiveness will only continue to make us bitter and it steals our joy and peace of mind.

To Forgive is one of the hardest things to do.
It is not simply a confession of the mouth. It is from the heart. You must relive the memory that hurt you and then choose to let it go.
True Forgiveness feels like surgery, you will feel a part of you literally leave you.
Let go and Let God win in your heart.
Let Love Lead.
Christianity EtcUnforgiveness: Why Not Forgive And Find Peace? by pressplay411(op): 12:08pm On Jun 01, 2019
All over the scriptures, Christ points at unforgiveness as the major obstacle to our prayers.

Let us search ourselves, let us search our hearts, search our past, our present and future (plans to revenge).
Every grudges and malice, every hurt we have failed to let go of, is a weight that has continued to drag us back. It is a poison that's eating our souls.

Let us enter this month of June on a clean slate.
Let us start this new season conscious and intentional that we will not allow any seed of unforgiveness, bitterness, hardened heart, envy and hatred that the enemy has sown in our hearts to impede our growth, our peace, our joy and our blessing.

I release myself from every anger, every envy, every grudge, every person that has hurt me.
I repent and pray for forgiveness from everyone that I've hurt.
I repent from every sin and iniquity that I have committed and associated with, and I pray for the grace, strength and mindset not to go back to sin.
And I pray for forgiveness from God through the blood of Jesus Christ, My Lord and Saviour, My Redeemer. I ask for God's Mercy to extend to me and every repentant heart in Jesus name.

We choose your ways LORD, we live by your Righteousness LORD, we choose to delight and obey your commands for only you have the Word of Eternal Life. Teach us to live according to Your Will, for your Kingdom and Righteousness to be established on earth as it is in Heaven. In Jesus name I pray.
Amen.
CelebritiesRe: Onye Eze Hosts Okoro Blessing To A Reconciliation Meeting After Arresting Her by pressplay411(m): 6:48am On May 31, 2019
What's the truth in all these?
This is why we need a sound police force and investigators.
RomanceRe: Man Explains Why God Designed Sex For Married People Alone by pressplay411(m):
Sex is for married people alone for a lot of reasons, another is that sex is a major distraction in life. The day you have sex, you make yourself vulnerable to the other gender. Sex begins to drive you instead of being driven by purpose.
Also before you had sex, you had some measure of self control. After you've had sex, you lose it. It's just a matter of meeting your type or having urges and you lose your senses again.

Please do not stir up nor awaken love until it pleases. Songs of Solomon 2:7b
RomanceRe: Man Explains Why God Designed Sex For Married People Alone by pressplay411(m): 6:40am On May 31, 2019
Good points. Lack of contentment due to comparisons.
EducationRe: Osase, The Second Black Female To Graduate From Yale In Astrophysics, A Nigerian by pressplay411(m): 10:40pm On May 29, 2019
AmazingELixir:
cool cool cool


Beauty and brain the two most powerful attributes a discerning lady must possess to to excel and rule a Male dominated world.
Those two qualities will still torment you if she has a bad attitude. Attitude is an expedient addendum.
FamilyRe: Help! Please, I Beat My Wife by pressplay411(m): 3:26pm On May 29, 2019
jchioma:
That's why he's HERE.
I know. His tone was beginning to change. It's a psychological observation.
I didn't want to add my comment until I saw his tone change in his replies.

Remorse is not Repentance.
Repentance doesn't go back to sin.
Remorse does. Get it?
FamilyRe: Help! Please, I Beat My Wife by pressplay411(m): 3:14pm On May 29, 2019
BuBuB:
Thank you. I'm better now, at least she's not so mad at me anymore.

Disrespect, insincerity, lies...a whole lot of things trigger the anger, hitting her was not justified, though she got quite abusive. I should have known she was just being a woman. I know better now and would never do that to any woman again, I mean any woman, ever again.
That she's not mad at you anymore is not the issue.
The issue is you need to realise the severity of your anger and lack of restraint. You need to realise you could end up "mistakingly" giving her the death blow. You need to realise you will transfer it to your kids if you don't deal with it.
You need to realise you need a major attitude surgery.
The reason you're not employed may not be disconnected from your attitude.

I don't mean to sound mean or critical, just need you to realise it goes beyond how she feels now that you've had "make-up sex."
You need to go back to your remorseful self that typed and opened this thread for help and intentionally seek help.

PS: Don't assume you can deal with the anger by yourself, what if you can't and it gets worse later?
Get help.
CelebritiesRe: Naira Marley: I Have Two Wives And Four Children, I’m Not A Criminal by pressplay411(m): 7:39am On May 29, 2019
toffyz:
O boy, 2 wives and 4 children...@ 28.

Three GBOSA for you Marley
Apparently he meant baby mamas. I doubt UK marriage system allows polygamy.

That's by the way.
I wish him and his lawyers came up with more creative lies though.

But in his defense, he is a victim of this generation. We live in a generation that has lost a sense of right and wrong. Our predecessors failed us.

We have to take our own lives into our hands and stop depending on government and people. We have to place our destiny into the hands of the only One who can both save us and our seeds to come.

This is where our conscience comes to play, we must be ready to make things right for the next generation even if it means sacrificing our own comfort and pleasures.

Nigeria can and will be great again.
Who is Nigeria?
You and Me.
CrimeRe: What Ever Happened To Our Conscience? by pressplay411(op): 7:17am On May 29, 2019
Whenever we point fingers and accuse politicians and others, we should check that we're not equally as guilty.

Our generation of youths will do worse than these politicians if given the chance.

What's more worrisome is that Nigeria has the most churches and mosques, yet we're the most corrupt.
There's a dissonance
Something is terribly wrong.
We need to pray that God sends His own labourers to the harvest cos the Nigerian harvest is too full but a lot of the labourers aren't God's.

We need to pray hard and intensify our evangelism. Souls are perishing and not aware that they are their own problem.

We say Nigeria is corrupt. Who is Nigeria? You and I. When we individually stop being corrupt, Nigeria will stop being corrupt.
CrimeWhat Ever Happened To Our Conscience? by pressplay411(op): 7:15am On May 29, 2019
I was shocked when Nigerians, especially youths were defending Evans the Kidnapper/Abductor.
I couldn't believe my ears, the excuses people raised in his defense. I couldn't believe my eyes, the people I saw justifying his heinous crimes. I found myself, confounded.

I read the press interview of one of his victims, Donatus Duru, and I empathised with his ordeal and helplessness. It was a traumatizing experience neither he nor his family nor business would easily recover from, if they ever do.

Naira Marley, the musician/yahoo fraudstar and Blessing Okoro, the blogger/property fraudstar recently made the news for being apprehended for fraud. I was not even shocked that the youths would once again swing in their defense. It has become a norm.

It dawned on me that we're naturally self-defensive. Hence when we see ourselves in others, we defend them.
What then?
Those who defend crime are themselves criminals, or simply waiting for the opportunity.

Don't argue, just check yourself.
Christianity EtcIt's Not Enough To Know Christ. Does He Know You? by pressplay411(op): 10:48pm On May 25, 2019
It's Not Enough To Know Christ. Does He Know You?
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Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Matthew 7:21-23

Who does Christ know?
-One who does the will of the Father in heaven.
-One who does not practise lawlessness.

Knowing and Doing God's Will is imperative as well as being Obedient to God's commands/laws.
How can we know God's Will?
Through Discipleship under Christ.

-Studying His Word and Yielding to the Holy Spirit.
-Renewing of our Minds by the Word and Transforming from our Old nature into Christ's Nature- Bearing the Fruit of the Spirit.
-Not forsaking the gathering of Saints. Learning under the Ministry Gifts. Recognising and functioning in our place in the Body of Christ. Becoming responsible in our spiritual family for the establishment of God's Kingdom and Righteousness.

Christianity (Following Christ) is not touch-and-go, it's not hit-and-run. It's not one-night-stand. It's not a charm you use when you're in trouble.
It is Commitment and Consistency.

But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62

Christ's knows the intents of our hearts. He know those that want him for the food, for the healing, for the attention, for the power, etc.
And He knows his Disciples.

John 2:23-25
Now when He was in Jerusalem at the Passover, during the feast, many believed in His name when they saw the signs which He did.
But Jesus did not commit Himself to them, because He knew all men, and had no need that anyone should testify of man, for He knew what was in man.

Be a Disciple of Christ.
Grace and Understanding to us all.
Christianity EtcRe: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by pressplay411(op): 6:03pm On May 25, 2019
paxonel:
in that case, you are mixing up things and there is no way you can arive at the truth by mixing up things .

See,

James 2:20 confirms that abraham was justified by works not just faith.

Romans 3:28 concludes that we are justified by faith and not by works

Looking at the two scriptures they seems contradictory isnt it?
The question about this scriptures is what i asked you.
What are we saved from? And you said it is both.

What justifies abraham(man) in james 2:20?
Ofcourse it is works.
What justifies man in Romans 3:28, ofcourse it is faith in christ.

Therefore it can never be both as you have said because faith in christ and works are two different things, faith justifies man into eternal life(salvation from death. Death is what we are saved from) while works do not justifies man into eternal but justifies him on this earth.

Think about it.
God has always presented His Word/Scriptures before us, how we choose to interprete them is ours. Life and death are always before man.
When we contradict each other, one of us has chosen life, the other has chosen death.
May God give us discernment.
Christianity EtcRe: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by pressplay411(op): 8:16am On May 25, 2019
jesusjnr:
God's grace is not sufficient for the wicked and the sinner that continues in sin and refuses to repent from it.

That's why hell is brimming with souls because despite that God so the world that He gave His only begotten Son to save the world - God's Grace - that whosoever believe in Him - man's repentance/obedience - shall not perish but have everlasting life.

But whosever does believe in Him - man's unrepentance/disobedience - despite that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son to save the world - God's grace - shall be condemned.

And hence there are so many people including Christians in hell and many yet trouping in there, because God's grace is not sufficient for the wicked/sinners/disobedient but for the righteous and sinners who truly repent.
"My sheep hear my voice."
He that will be saved will hear the truth and repent, and not seek enticing words that soothe the ears.
Christianity EtcRe: Light And Darkness by pressplay411(op): 6:56am On May 25, 2019
jesusjnr:
The proof of light is in the shining and illumination of a place.

There's no such thing as an imaginary light, for that's what today's church really is, hence it inability to serve the purpose of light in a dark world and give her light.

So darkness abounds because the church which ought to be the light of the world, has now become part of the darkness of the world.
Who is the church?
-You and I individually, as well as the assembly of faithfuls. We all have work to do.
God help us and give us Grace.

The revelation I received concerning the state of the church is in the prayer of the harvest that our Lord committed us to pray. That the Lord of the harvest may send his labourers unto the harvest.
Unfortunately, we have many labourers but very few are the Lord's.

So many were driven into ministry because they failed in business and saw church as a business. Some just wanted Power.
Only very few labourers are truly enburdened like Christ for the souls of the harvest.

I thank God for the revival of our time. I believe our generation will right a lot of wrongs and shut the gates of hades.
The Spirit and Zeal of Our Lord will perform this.
So help us God.
Christianity EtcRe: About Depression And Suicide by pressplay411(op):
jesusjnr:
Speaking from experience, being once a seriously depressed person at some point, depression is basically a result of lack of knowledge.

For every other thing that leads to depression, such as a misplacement of priorities, placing focus on and overrating the wrong things, and pride, all are as a result of a lack of knowledge.

For all these things wrapped into one was what made me so depressed that even the simplest of things like getting out of my bed became a mountainous task for me to do.

And my head was usually in the depressed position... but just a few Words from God while I was in the bathroom taking my bath, and it was finished.

For just the knowledge that came from those Words crushed my depression and made it immediately cease to exist.

And the amazing thing is that all those problems and difficulties that made me depressed were still there, but they no longer had power to make me depressed because I now had the knowledge that made me to see them in the light of their true worth.

So it was lack of knowledge that caused my depression not anything else for once I received that knowledge that was it, the end of my depression.

And I have been a living witness of that not just from my own experience, but I have seen it work wonders in the lives of people i know, for when I see them depressed and I just use what worked for me to treat their depression which is the knowledge of the Truth, and the knowledge of the Truth would set them free from their depression.

Once i was amazed when someone whose depression I treated with what worked for, treated another person's depression with what worked for him, and the person was testifying that it was exactly what I used on him that he used on someone else.

Maybe this is the reason God said my people perish for lack of knowledge, for it is the lack of knowledge in God's perspective(not that of the world for emphasis) that causes depression in people and makes them to want to end their lives.

So it's the lack of that knowledge basically that is the root of all depression, which leads people to commit suicide.
Well said.
Every problem of man is as a result of lack of knowledge. Some times knowledge transcends access of information but also a right understanding of that information.

Truly, as you rightly said in your case, God spoke a word to you (perhaps from the word bank in your heart), a word you already knew, but your new understanding of it created an ember of hope and light that obliterated your depressive thoughts.

The gospel of Christ, the Truth is hardly alien to any one in our country, but they have simply not received the right understanding of it because their heart is not right with God. God is always reaching out to every heart but until man starts to reach out for God's heart, in humility, he will most likely not see God even right in front of him.

May God give us His Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding.
Christianity EtcRe: Once Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by pressplay411(op): 4:06am On May 25, 2019
paxonel:
Saved from what?

Is it saved from the consequences of the sin we commit or saved from going to hell for not believing in christ?

Lets come from there
Both especially hell.
Christianity EtcOnce Saved, Forever Saved- Wrong And Unscriptural 2 by pressplay411(op): 10:48pm On May 24, 2019
About Sin And Grace

Hebrews 10:26-39
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?

For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.”
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

But recall the former days in which, after you were illuminated, you endured a great struggle with sufferings: partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations, and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated; for you had compassion on me in my chains, and joyfully accepted the plundering of your goods, knowing that you have a better and an enduring possession for yourselves in heaven.

Therefore do not cast away your confidence, which has great reward. For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise:

“For yet a little while,
And He who is coming will come and will not tarry.
Now the just shall live by faith;
But if anyone draws back,
My soul has no pleasure in him.”

But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
Christianity EtcRe: Light And Darkness by pressplay411(op): 10:45pm On May 24, 2019
Matthew 16:22-23
Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!”
But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”

Fearful. Christ didn't see him as Peter in that moment, He discerned and rebuked him as Satan. The same Peter who had just discerned Him as the Christ and whom he blessed as the Rock upon whom the Church would be built.

Be Sensitive.
Christianity EtcLight And Darkness by pressplay411(op): 10:40pm On May 24, 2019
I've come to realise that we are individually multifaceted.
We are simply vessels.
Same person can be an agent of light and at the same time an agent of darkness.
When God needs to speak, he uses man. When the devil also needs to speak, he also uses man.
I could give you a godly advice. I could also in the next hour give you a selfish ungodly advice.
I could be a respecter of God in the church and also be an ambassador of the devil at the club or even at home. The same person who is awe-inspiring when she steps on the pulpit to minister is sexually sinister after service. Even the pastor who preaches and heaven comes down is suddenly a beast when it comes to matters of finance.

What then?
There are many wolves in sheep clothing and many sheep in wolves clothing.
Unfortunately, even several false prophets would have repented if only they knew they were false prophets.
It shouldn't shock you that you're a prophet too (at least potentially).

It is a fearful thing not to fear God.
Only He sees the heart/motive/intention/thoughts of man, and He deals with us according to the state of our hearts.

In summary, we all need to be sensitive to know who is using our vessel at every moment- God or the devil?

We also need discernment when we listen to people to know who is speaking through them- God or the devil?

Grace to be the Light always, I pray for us all in this world of extensive and encroaching darkness.
Just a photon of light does wonders but it needs to grow and shine to obliterate darkness, no matter its thickness.
Be The Light, always.
Christianity EtcRe: About Depression And Suicide by pressplay411(op): 10:18pm On May 24, 2019
OkCornel:
Well said bro...


To be more specific, THE MIND IS A BATTLEFIELD.


The mind is also like a fertile soil. If one does not make conscious effort to weed out negative thoughts... You'll have a mental garden full of weed and thorns...
Not just a battlefield but THE BATTLEFIELD.
You said it all.
Christianity EtcRe: About Depression And Suicide by pressplay411(op): 8:38pm On May 22, 2019
Tosinex:
What causes suicide = depression.
What causes depression = mostly emotional trauma.
Some people committed suicide because they are traumatized in their relationship. Their love, I meant the entire love of their entire life, which they place in an imperfect man/woman made of dead flesh betrayed or jilted them.
Some people committed suicide because they thought there's no way they can come out of their troubles. They thought the whole world is placed on their shoulder. They've tried every means but non is working, they thought it's the end of the world and the only way to get out of it is to kill themselves so they committed suicide.
Some committed suicide just to punish others, like their family or parents. they felt unloved or treated badly and they thought the only way they can get back at them is to commit suicide, that's foolishness.

If you look at the three examples I gave up there of people that committed suicide, you will realize that it all bores down to emotional trauma, most of these people are not disabled in any way or any form, they are only traumatized, at that point they felt so weak that they forgot that they are one of the strongest creature in the universe, understand that strength is not by physical muscle, they felt so inferior that they forgot that they are the most loved creature in the whole of creation!

Yes! The truth is everyone of us including me have been at that level, but what made me alive today is the fact that I realize something, and what is it? I discovered that This World Is A Battle Field, and you don't get to kill yourself, and try not to get killed by something else You Have To Be STRONG

But when we realize our weaknesses and see that it is taking a toll on us then we ran to someone who is stronger than us or even stronger than all, whom can help us in the face of the battle.

Many attimes God encourages us but we don't get to see it, because we felt we are alone, no we are not. I've seen angels encouraging me when I'm faced with battles, Jesus was encouraged by an angel in that garden that night when it feels like everyone has deserted him. In such manner God encourages us all have you lost that sweet relationship? Are you mostly hated by the ones that ought to love you most? Or is the whole world against you and decides to sit on your shoulder?

Remember its a battle and you have to fight! I won't be there with you, nobody might even be there with you, but you can always win, if you want to, yes you can and you will always win, believe me, just be strong!!! The battle may tarry but stay strong! Believe it's just a phase in your life that will pass and all things will get better

Stay strong for your kids born or unborn, stay strong for your family, stay strong for your friends, stay strong for your Heavenly Father, stay strong for us all!!
We love you!
Well said. Thanks for sharing.
To anyone going through emotional trauma, this is for you.

If you can only weather the storm, the sunshine after is just so beautiful and certainly worth living for.
It's always darkest just before the Dawn Of A New Day!

Your New Day is about to Dawn.
And when it dawns, you will be shocked you ever considered suicide. True story.
Christianity EtcRe: About Depression And Suicide by pressplay411(op): 9:33pm On May 17, 2019
jidenna21:
Psychotherapy is also known as talk therapy or psychological therapy. Different types of psychotherapy can be effective for depression, such as cognitive behavioral therapy or interpersonal therapy. Your mental health professional may also recommend other types of therapies.

Don't even waste your time seeing a pastor for that unproductive prayer unless you got some coins to flush. You may end up killing yourself.
Have you wondered how come celebrities commit suicide after battling depression for years?
Ever wondered how many therapists, shrinks, prescriptions, etc they had?

I am not disputing the importance of medical treatment. I am simply saying it goes beyond it.

Life is a battle for the Human Soul.
Christianity EtcAbout Depression And Suicide by pressplay411(op): 7:48pm On May 17, 2019
Suicide is a product of depression. Depression is a product of sorrow and a loss of hope.

When we place our hopes on things that are material and temporal, we set ourselves up for disappointment.
But when you place your Hope in Christ and let Him through His Word and Holy Spirit teach and lead you through life, that is Eternal Life.

Psychologists, Therapists, Doctors are all still gifts from God due to our inadequacy of faith. They profer temporary solution to the capacity in which God gives them. Hence why true Doctors say all they can do is care for the sick, healing comes from God.

Do you believe God heals?
When doctors have tried all they can and given up on the extremely sick or cancerous or barren or anaemic, etc often times God steps in.
Unbelieving Doctors have given their lives to Christ in such scenarios.

Why this epistle?
Because I know how our generation has become so grown in Knowledge, we have thought in our hearts that we have outgrown the bible.
It was all prophesied.
I was one of such Apostates who ended up becoming an Atheist.

God has never stopped being God. We're the ones who keep growing farther from Him as pride sets into our hearts.

I found Christ when I was humbled. Then I made my way back to Him.
Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever.

All the glory we have given to Science, to Man, to Self- All belongs to God.

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