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Taye Taiwo has more shots on goal than our strikers.

Why did Uche pass that ball?

Kanu? I did not even know Kanu was playing.

We need to attempt more long-range shots on goal.

I think we need to penetrate from the middle.

Mikel needs to head on target.

Ki enikan fi orisi now!

It is the mumu defender, Adele, I think, that  was marking "space" instead of the Tunisian striker, leaving wide open him open to equalize.

Mikel is playing like he has a headache; he can't even score with his head. Obasi is better with his head.

Taye Taiwo always wants to score, instead of passing to an open man.

Seeing Adaeze's picture gives me hope that there are still few Naija girls out there who are not wowo.

cliveland:
@ebonyeyes

like my post said,,  d circumstances of d meeting determines a lot of things. ok some meetings r just destined to be materially or sexually wrapped up vis-versa, its neither male or female, its poisoned chemistry being there a couple o times. 4gve me

but i'd rather keep d coy of an intellectually engaging babe than d slam, atleast i can learn a thing or 2 from her n i ve been very humble n blessed to always hook up with pees dat can afford d things i can 4 her. simply knowing my standard n staying there

n really wooooing has been overfogged here , its much more than gifts n money, at least 1 gets to learn how to give d giving sef. u just dont drop it at d psn just that abi

wooing is more than money, a nice modest date and fun activities will help. But i specifically have a  problem about what Uju said about "paying bills just to get her to say yes." Only a mugu will do that, and ladies that expect that from men will end up with mugus.

wow! So women find the penis in the pocket, which means women are money-chasers! And women get mad when label them as "money-chasers."

Ujujoan:
You know what baffles me in this thread, is not just height of hypocrisy from the ladies, but the blatant display of total disrespect from the guys.

I use the word ‘hypocrisy’ cos I can boldly say that every girl appreciates a little spoiling from her man. I’m not accusing you ladies of using that as a basis for selection, but don’t tell me you don’t smile when a guy buys you a gift. If you all are as sensible as you claim, then you’ll know the ‘treasure’ is not going to make you fall for a guy. You won’t even accept gifts from a guy you don’t like. But if a guy you like doesn’t buy you gifts or spend a dime on you, you’ll be the first people to post ‘he’s stingy’ on this forum.

As for the guys, you all come here to say ‘ladies are no more worth it, ladies are cheap, they are booty-calls, no time to waste, what’s the point . . . ‘ How do you even expect to meet decent girls with that mentality?

I asked a simple question. .  . . .What happened to ‘Treasure’? Most of you have decided to ignore the question and attack me personally. Now I don’t mind being the NL gold-digger, I don’t even mind being called materialistic. But when are people going to start understanding that materials things does not rule out love. That a guy spends on you doesn’t mean you don’t love him for who he is and also the fact that he’s stingy doesn’t make your love real. That a guy is broke doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be truly loved, but can’t the rich guys get the same benefit?

Just because a guy can buy a lady a lot of nice things doesn’t mean he’s trying to buy her love. Those are just things what money brings. The heart is all that matter in the end.

So maybe if you all start thinking like that, you’ll stop seeing ‘treasure’ as something negative!!

Uju, Uu, Uju! How many times did I call you? Three. You are such a flip-flopper, saying one thing before and another thing now. You posted the question and you appear to be missing the issue. You said that what happened to a guy spending, paying bills, just to get her to say yes. Inferentially, that means the guy should do all the spending when he meets her; she has not said yes or is saying no; before any commitment on her part or reciprocal favorable treatment from this girl; and he should do all that spending including paying her bills just to get her to say yes.  You did not post a question about how a girl will appreciate a little spoiling from her man, which is what you are saying in this post but not what your original question is. To change your stance in the middle of this argument is a copout and a punk move. Most guys won't mind doing that to a girl after they are in a relationship, committed or engaged or married, and the guy is sure that his money won't be going to waste, because the same girl may say no.  Mugus, Old, ugly, pot-bellied guys, and guys who lack substance or self esteem and think that  that is the only way to get a girl will probably pay your bills just to get you to say yes. But, come on, this is 2009, men should be smarter with their money and invest wisely, because the girls will be chasing you when you are financially OK. Like I said earlier, I am sure a lot of guys will woo you  with cash if you stand on the side of the road and sell that stuff, like some girls in Lag or Abuja. Uju, don't be a flip-flopper. You also talked about how does a guy expect to meet a decent girl with that mentality. Have you ever asked yourself: how do you expect to meet a decent guy with your own mentality? Think about it before responding to this, if you ever do.

since you were a mugu for marrying her, and because you dated her for five years without figuring out that she was not the right one for you, you should stick it out, if you are still that same mugu. If you have divested yourself of the muguness, then kick her ass out, or leave the house for her and file for divorce.

I think also that guys have realized that women need the D as much we need the P, and even if you are going to woo, make sure that you are wooing your wife or fiancee, after she has proven herself worthy of wooing, instead of wooing some chick you just met.

Because there is little or no reward for wooing in the real world; the more you woo, the less you see.  A lot of guys, however, still  woo ashawos, because ashawo dey reward you if you woo am.

Ride in a Mercedes-Benz or ride on Okada? Study under constant light or read with candle or lantern aka atupa? Abeg make I dey go.

Just another wannabe, at least to me.

This M.I. guy is just alright to me. He comes off as a local who is desperately trying to sound and connect with the American conscious, neosoul, and poetic style of rap, which he knows nothing about--this guy is one aboki from Jos. After meticulously listening to several of his tracks, including colonial mentality, I cannot see how his songs tally up with his upbringing, and to the Nigerian culture in general.

If I want to listen to Mos Def or some conscious rap, I know where to go; but if I am listening to my Nigerian artists, I do not expect (or want) to hear some artist whose style is not unique (and i think M.I.'s style is not unique) and bears semblance to American or European style of music, or I do not want to hear a Nigerian rapper whose style is built on a foundation in which he has not experienced--this Jos' product (M.I.) has not experienced (besides watching MTV and his brief stint in the States) the foundation in which his style his built upon.

Do I think he is a good rapper? Yes. Do I respect him? No. Because M.I. has not created his own style nor have an identity (he seems like M.I. has "idolized" a little too much the American conscious rap style), he has not won my respect; and I am just one of those people who refuses to always follow the majority and refuses to be blighted by the style of some wannabe Talib Kweli, and ignore the substantive aspect of Nigerian Hip-Hop.

While I am a hip-hop loyalist, Nigerian & American, this aboki, in my own view, lacks that quality which is necessary for longevity in the music business, especially in the Nigerian hip-hop industry. Artists like Timaya &Tony Tetuila, to mention a few, have won my respect and admiration for their distinctive styles while creating music that is a direct reflection of their background and culture.

Debosky

I thought we had gone past that in Nigerian hip hop too. Our success thus far was built on being proud of out native tongue and once we start getting comfortable and deviating from the same recipe that gave you success failure looms.

I am a proud Nigerian and I will NEVER EVER admire any Nigerian rapper that wants to sound like an American rapper. That's just me. Whoever no like am fit go drink peppersoup.

Sky Walker
I don't expect him to be speaking pidgin English, but I expect him to speak with his accent; or create a song that does not sound like these American peeps. Although he went to college in Yankee and I have seen him before, he knew he could not make it here. Nigerian rappers did not begin to have main stream success until they started rapping with their accents, and you know it.

Just another wannabe, at least to me.

This M.I. guy is just alright to me. He comes off as a local who is desperately trying to sound and connect with the American conscious, neosoul, and poetic style of rap, which he knows nothing about--this guy is one aboki from Jos. After meticulously listening to several of his tracks, including colonial mentality, I cannot see how his songs tally up with his upbringing, and to the Nigerian culture in general.

If I want to listen to Mos Def or some conscious rap, I know where to go; but if I am listening to my Nigerian artists, I do not expect (or want) to hear some artist whose style is not unique (and i think M.I.'s style is not unique) and bears semblance to American or European style of music, or I do not want to hear a Nigerian rapper whose style is built on a foundation in which he has not experienced--this Jos' product (M.I.) has not experienced (besides watching MTV) the foundation in which his style his built upon.

Do I think he is a good rapper? Yes. Do I respect him? No. Because M.I. has not created his own style nor have an identity (he seems like M.I. has "idolized" a little too much the American conscious rap style), he has not won my respect;  and I am just one of those people who refuses to always follow the majority and refuses to be blighted by the style of some wanna be Talib Kweli, and ignore the substantive aspect of Nigerian Hip-Hop.

While I am a hip-hop loyalist, Nigerian & American, this aboki, in my own view, lacks that quality which is necessary for longevity in the music business, especially in the Nigerian hip-hop industry. Artists like Timaya &Tony Tetuila, to mention a few, have won my respect and admiration for their distinctive styles while creating music that is a direct reflection of their background and culture.

I can help you get the visa. It will cost you $100,000 cash. You can send $10,000 deposit to initiate the process and $10,000 increments per month thereafter, until it is completely paid off. We guarantee the visa.

You will kill yourself at the end of the year if, after expending $100K, you still have no visa. Maybe it will further motivate you to kill yourself. Abeg, sit down some where jo. When your mates dey make money and develop Naija, you wan kill your self because you no get visa. Make God punish that mouth wey you take talk am because you be disgrace and embarrassment to Naija people.

Na d devil inside you make you kill. And who talk say we go miss you when you yamutu. Make you go find better yansh prosecute and how to make money. Suganmu.

Bro,

If you want to travel out of Nigeria I can suggest a lot of countries for you: Togo, Chad, Ghana, Sierra-Leone, etc. You can even drive to Cameroon without incurring any substantial expense. You can, however, jump off third mainland bridge and call it a day; that would be one less person in Naija, and, if you live in Lagos, it would be one less soul in that over-crowded city.

I hope I have given you some suggestions.

jidobaba:
@princek12, òdè ni è shà. if u were exposed u wuld at least know not to argue ad hominem.
Nigeria is down because of fat,theiving officials but God forbid we remain down because of perpetual pessimists.

Jidobaba

Iwo gangan ni mungun. Also, for your information, the plane did not land on ice and the river was not frozen-- there were ice patches on the river. Furthermore, what I am talking about is not the skill of the pilot, or the skill of our Nigerian pilots: I have always intimated that our pilots are very good. The issue is that Nigeria's emergency services are almost non existent, and it is very sad that for a country that grosses so much in oil revenue.

If you cannot understand that, there is nothing I can do to help you. Either you are used to being infrastructural and economically deprived by your govt., or you are blinded to reality; and that is a problem a lot of Nigerians face. A little exposure will cure that. That is not ad hominen, it is a theory. Once you expose yourself you will understand what I mean. It is also sad that when people speak reality about a problem that has destroyed our country, you seem to allude to the fact that the problem is caused by "perpetual pessimists." That underscores the fact that you are in some state of delusion, and you may need divine intervention to cure you of that; or maybe you are just an unrealistic optimist. Whichever one, you need help.

jidobaba:
Pls why all d noise. D pilot did well no doubt, but d RIVER was FROZEN. Now, d layer of ice & d frozen, dense water acted as a perfect buffer for d belly-landing. 'wuld have been surprisd if anybody died ! All dis noise is due to western propaganda machine tryin to make americans seem like demi-gods, and we're helping dem! 'nuff said.
God bless Nigeria!

Jidobaba

Is it western propaganda machine that Nigeria does not have stable electricity? is it western propaganda machine that there is barely, if any, an efficient rescue service in Nigeria (fire rescue, police, coast guard rescue etc?) is it propaganda that there is no running water and dilapidated roads? is it western propaganda that majority of Nigeria's oil wealth has been hijacked by our previous leaders. Keep it real, Abeg. I guess you are used to suffering and you lack exposure; that is why you don't recognise a swift response by rescue teams, and think Nigeria is run the way any country that is 8th on OPEC should be run.

Uwaje
you dey vex because they are comparing the rescue efforts in America to Nigeria? Why should we not compare them when just about everything in our country is dysfunctional, yet we have been selling oil for almost 40 years. When things like this happen, it opens old wounds about how incompetent and corrupt our government is. I can't blame the people that complain.

Yes, we know we should be thankful of the miracle, but damn we should also have the freedom to criticize out garbage government that have ran our country into a state of quagmire. Abeg, make people yan wetin dem wan yan. It's about time people express their frustration against the government at the slightest opportunity and in any medium.

@ Sapphic
Many people maybe misconstruing what Sapphic is saying. I think he is not referring to the incompetence of Nigerian pilots--since our pilots probably have similar training as American pilots, but the likelihood that if the accident had happened in Nigeria the response to save the passsengers would have been abysmal. I agree.

In Nigeria, a response to a house fire that happens on land is very lack lustre, talkless of responding to a downed bird in, say, River Niger. In the Nigeria that I know, the passengers would have perished in River Niger before arrival of rescue teams, if they ever show up. I am also infuriated at how some people stare in the other direction of reality under the cloak of patriotism; yet, this same people are living in foreign countries. In other words, I am disgusted at how people are accusing  of negativism people who are constructively criticizing Nigeria. Hey, like Sapphic said, " a spade is a spade."

Personally, I am a proud Nigerian and would criticize Nigeria of any inadequacies they display. I would also praise her when she so deserves.  I reiterate: if the accident had happened in Nigeria, it is very statistically probable that many, if not all, the passengers would have perished. Peace.

I think a lot of Nigerians like to leave the country not because they are suffering, but just to get a breathe of fresh air from a country whose air is saturated by pollutants, infrastructure is in a state of decadence, flickering power (courtesy of Nepa), smelly and trashy dilapidated roads e.t.c. Even the most affluent people want to leave that country sometimes, especially to take a hiatus from the noise of their gargantuan generators,  noise from their pumping machines that pump water from their boreholes to their elevated tanks, and the whole pyschological stress of driving around and avoiding holes on the roads; also, I find driving around trashy roads and the preponderance of mosquitoes that can suck all your blood repugnant.

For me, the mere freedom ( which money cannot buy) would be a reason to take a break out of Nigeria. As a long time resident of the U.S., i find the freedom of commuting anytime of day or night is something I terribly miss anytime I go to Nigeria. I approach driving at night in Lagos with caveat; those money-hungry policemen and the ever confident armed robbers are always on the prowl in search of money, especially from anyone that has the appearance of wealth, whether local  resident or overseas visitor.

Until the government fixes these infrastructural problems, the amount of Nigerians applying for UK, US, and foreign visas will not decline. I really understand the author's plea for a boycott, but it appears the impetus for his boycott was his denial of a UK visa, and, perhaps, calling for a boycott is a vehicle to express his frustration. The amount of Naijas that flock to dubai  and South Africa ( a substitute for UK and US ) has been on the rise-- hey, some of them may just be taking an aesthetic vacation-- to see a beautiful environment so that they can see the beautiful side of life and, for residents of Lagos who leave the country, perhaps to purge their lungs of toxins accumulated because of pollution.

Babalaw0:
@ Post, UK-Nigeria gist is always an interesting read for me anyday.

I will support the actions of the UK embassy which portrays a caring and responsible government. It is a known fact that the Uk economy is in crisis. Reasons are well known to all, from collapsed mortagage to collapse financial institutions to overstretched facilities and overpopulation.

As a responsive government, you need to control population especially when the economy is shrinking which is why visa denials will continue to be a good measure to achieve that. Think about it, UK has opened borders to EU, has mutual agreement with many countries (US, Antigua, Barbados, SA etc) to enter the country visa free if they are staying for 3months. Now imagine how much lost revenues they are incurring as a result of such diplomatic arrangements.

The only way to make up for these lost revenues is to milk from other countries (Nigeria inclusive).

While i sympathise with those denied visa (i'm also a victim), I'll rather see it as an act of a responsive government trying to protect her heritage. Therefore i will not support any boycott.

I agree with the author: virginity is lack of opportunity. Most virgins lust anyway, especially most guys that are virgins-- a lot of men would love to hit some good kitten at some point in their lives. For women, it is usually the "wowo" ones and the "edikaikon" ones that remain virgins. The fine ones are usually being engaged by men and are usually not virgins. If any virgin wants to disprove me, please post your pics.