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Danjuma827:
and its not the fault of the followers because they were blindfolded by these leaders political propaganda. and it is the choice of the leader to be bad or good when he or she assumes office. So the leaders are to be blamed.

Danjuma827:
If you want real leadership then it must start from your immediate environment

Danjuma827:
My friend you are taking you mind to far from who a leader is.

Is your parent not your leader?

are you not a leader to your younger brother or sister?

is you pastor not a leader to you?

after you have agreed to these questions then I will tell you that parent who are leaders over their children do things that makes them to be corrupt. like cases of exam malpractice.

barackodam:
i don't deny that fact, but do you accept the fact that good followers do turn bad leaders??

barackodam:
how many are righteous??



We know, but there are good followers who turn bad leaders

Danjuma827:
There are leaders even before you were born and there will still be leaders even when you have kicked the bucket. Most Leaders foster the activities of corrupt practices. you will certainly meet people that will rule over you so it depends on the rule if those people that will enable a follower to take over their footprint.

barackodam:
remember.....head before tail, leader before follower

barackodam:
Its better not to do a thing at all than to do a bad
job. Do u think those standard buildings abroad are
built just for building sake?:Do u also think that time
is not taken to make sure that the buildings are well
erected? One bad attitude of Nigerians is 'haste' we
are in a hurry to get things done legal or illegal.....nunushokoto.

dont deviate please....


if you're given a job by FG and about 3 ministries collect their so-called share from you, will you go back to FG and tell them you're ni longer working on the project after being paid??

or you can as well start a job you know you won't finish and later be chased be crimes agency for embezzlement

Danjuma827:
I love your examples but do you know that if we have good leaders all these act won't be happening?

barackodam:
Babangida is seen by many to have presided over one of the most corrupt governments in Nigeria, however,
unlike other regimes, no ministers of his regime were convicted/tried by the courts.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Babangida


judges, please, my internet connectivity has become very poor, I may reply every one later than expected

thanks

Danjuma827:
My friend any parent that pays money for a child to pass their exams are only fostering that child to exhibit more. Had it been that parent did not pay the money for their ward to pass their exams then I am definitely sure that the corrupt practices that child will exhibit will be minima. So every child knows that cheating is bad so does it give him the temerity to involve in such act?

you know that fire will burn your skin and your parent asked you do to so. will you do it? if you put your hand in it then you are on your own. and you will acquire the effect more.

barackodam:
what to do when the money will never complete the project and it need be delivered??


pseudonomer...... By accepting to give the share, the follower is also corrupt.

yes, but as a result of the leader

Danjuma827:
This I don't agree with you cos most students are naive about the happenings in the society and they are only follow what they think is right. and that right might be socially wrong.

Danjuma827:
My co debater. Yes the follower have the right to protest. But are our voices heard? is the government ready to listen to the followers? the only place the followers function well to ensure an effective leadership is during the election.

so tell me how many protest have you made and the effect was made effectively? so I believe and you will believe with me that most followers just fold their hands simply because the leaders don't grant them the right to do so. and this will certainly create a wrong motive in the followers and they do will begin to believe that corruption is a normal norms.

Danjuma827:
Leaders are all round and all leaders in any society plays an important role for the society. so if you are a president you are still a leader to people and if you are a principal you are still a leader to your students so don't restrict yourself to one set of leaders

barackodam:
followers are to be blamed for bad roads?? poor airports?? after paying tax??

and I refuse to accept your claim, we all know of the bureaucracy in our country. You are given 100% to execute a particular contract, Ministry of A comes to collect his share, Ministry of B comes and probably ministry of C also, how much is left of the 100%, and since you have to execute the project, you go for substandard materials

barackodam:

We say followers are to be blamed, yet institutions that are meant to fight corruption statutorily are themselves corrupt. The malfeasance of corruption
is so endemic that graft fighting bodies such as EFCC, ICPC, and CCB have become toothless bulldogs as their ranks and file have been weakened. Even the so called human rights activists, Labour Unions, Civil Society Organizations among others that profess to be fighting for the masses are ironically infested with corruption. Human Rights crusaders and professionals such as lawyers, journalists and academics get to political offices only to spit on the cause they fought for during their days in human rights activism.

Danjuma827:

Leaders in our education sector, need more rebranding, because they are the first set of people that will build on the foundation of pupils and students in the society. In the year 2012 and 2014, 112000 and 145,795 WAEC May/June result were withheld respectively and the major cause of this, is as a result of leaders I.e. Principals engaging in corrupt practices in the examination hall, in the name of maintaining
the level and standard of the school. This alone can destroy the future of the pupils, making them to have a wrong impression on what Education is about. Some lecturers also give students, answers to examination questions just because they were cajoled to doing so. All these acts will make pupils and students think that the only way to have success is through corruption and this, will make their foundation to be in jeopardy.
Don't be surprise that these students and pupils will certainly carry on with such habits, when they finally become leaders of ministries, societies, organisations and the nation a large. Which will definitely will be a threat to a nation's development and growth.

freecocoa:
This is a fecking lie, weed even makes you Hot, the 'hornier' she is, the wetter.

Ibsgal:
Did Mugabe deserve international courtesy while visiting Nigeria? Yes, but if we are to call a spade a spade, the accusations he was confronted with are not entirely untrue.

Fynestboi:
Which team are you debating with?

Fynestboi:
Friday....

Mogidi:
Why is Prof Yeye Osinbanjo taking over the chapel, was he elected to be a "prayer warrior"
The VP position is not a religious position.
He should be in the office, not spending hours inside the chapel praying, there's work to be done.

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Kutunban:
Please, we need references and links to your stories about the girl who was ask what GDP means.

Secondly, your partner is also presenting the same points about the girl asked what GDP is, it will be advisable to bring up different instances with convincing facts rather than repeating same stories.

Furthermore, acronyms should be well explained for the purpose of clarity as someone stated above.

Well its a good challenge where intellectuals express facts and points with great prowess and am delighted that Nairaland is providing a platform for this.

Good luck to you all debaters.

Fynestboi:
MATCH TWO

OAU VS IBADAN POLY
2015 General election: a reflection of the people's will or an outcome of political vendetta?

ABU ZARIA VS FUNAAB.
Corruption is a societal evil crippling
our country Nigeria; who takes the most
blame our leaders or the followers?.





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