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lycan2:
SPOILER ALERT IN GOT ,LITTLE FINGER DIES AND A DRAGON IS TURNED TO A WHITE WALKER

You be mad person o...sh.it. When i have been restraining myself from downloading it you just blurt it out from nowhere....damn...i hope you are kidding.

Who be this people wey dey talk about tyres. Proforce is making an MRAP, not a tank or a hyrid MRAP. MRAPs dont have tracked or armoured wheels period. The day proforce build a tank then we would compare it with other tanks.

saliubello:
Selling

Oga show a video now. A demonstration

eliascomm55:
Fresh iphone5s for sale

Still Available, whats the price

Those goats don forget how to shit and pee. When people no get wahala again, den go dey find one by force.

Izychi:
Bros, in God's eyes we r not equal oo.

Remember the time Jeremiah was interceding for the Israelis before God about the exile.... And God told him to forget about it..... That even if Samuel or Moses should wake up from the dead to intercede for the Israelis, that He wouldn't listen to them....
That shows u we r all not really equal before God.

Then you have not realized the foremost lesson Jesus taught his apostles, equality. Three times he repeatedly told them not to elevate themselves but to see each other as brothers.

NwamaziNwaAro:

The crime in Edo stinks.

Yeah crime to us in Edo stinks, you are from a place where crime is part of culture and development.

sunnysunny69:
omole is not in good memory in OAU, he's is responsible for the death of AFRICA, one of the best activists out there, he was murdered in cold blood.

Chief it is not the same omole. The omole that was implicated in that massacre is Omole Wale. He is still a pariah in OAU and Nigeria because of it. He was the VC before 'afin' Rogers. After which faborode came in and then bamitale omole.

CuddleMe:
I'm a Christian too, I disturb others so I'm cool with the noise of other Christians worshiping in my area

So there is no other way to worship but to disturb people. What of those who are not part of your noise polluting worships.

chiraqDemon:
I swear to God my guy
Last year i dey my room for 2nd floor wey i de live
My bros comot so him just close d door without locking
Next thing person knock my room door
I open am only to see j witnesses
Na para i para for those ppl eh
D main wahala v say dem nor respect privacy
Even if u dey toilet for tenth floor u go shock as person go open d toulet door say hin wan share word of God

Lololol, your Bros open your door down without locking, the JW did not enter your opened room, but he knocked the door and you come open am. How did he invade your privacy abi wetin you want make he do. Make he shout your name or what.

Hairyrapunzel:
When you ban family and friends from associating with people who leave your religion then don complain when people ban your religion in your country

Russia never stopped anybody from praying to their God you can pray anywhere early christians prayed in their houses. Kingdom Hall is not even mentioned in the Bible

Am not talking about Russia, someone said a prayer for protection and you could not even leave that alone... You had to call it persecution complex.

Talking about bans, Jesus said we should ban/shun unrepentant believers, Paul said the same thing. The Russian orthodox church bans/excommunicated people, Catholic Church do and countless other churches. Why are they not banned too. Why single out the witnesses... I guess you see why the persecution complex is real.

Hairyrapunzel:
Enough of this persecution complex you people have. your religion isnt the only banned religion in russia.

So you will even begrudge people the right to pray to their God...you are one angry human.

Hairyrapunzel:
But they still allow the unclean ones into their meetings #hypocrisy
Bible never said we should shun anyone. There is something wrong in shunning someone who no longer believes what you believe or who leaves your religion
They don't follow the bible they follow their governing body members rule

Only a cult will make family and friends shun you when you leave it.

Mr. Read your Bible a little bit more

The below was gotten from wikipaedia

Excommunication is an institutional act of religious censure used to deprive, suspend, or limit membership in a religious community or to restrict certain rights within it, in particular receiving of the sacraments. The term is often historically used to refer specifically to Catholic excommunications from the Catholic Church, but it is also used more generally to refer to similar types of institutional religious exclusionary practices and shunning among other religious groups. For instance, many Protestant denominations have similar practices of excusing congregants from church communities, while Jehovah's Witnesses, as well as the Churches of Christ, use the term "disfellowship" to refer to their form of excommunication.

I guess none of these people saw anything related to shunning in the Bible, so we are all extremists.

2bam:
. your argument is baseless,in a Church some members might agree to take drugs while some might say no to drugs,that is in the same church oo,but in the assembly of Jehovah witness no member will take drugs.that is were the fanatic came in.

So if a church teaches that drinking alcohol is wrong and some adhere to it and others do not..do you blame the church because some members do not totally have trust and faith in the teachings of their church? If the early christians all agree to avoid paying homage to Caesar and would rather die but some other sects have religious members who are divided in their stance against Caesar, is it an evidence that the early christians are fanatics

So if the whole Jehovah's witnesses follow the doctrine of their church..do you then want to use that as a basis for fanaticism.

AnonyNymous:
Like I said in my post, I don't know if 'extremist' was the right word for the Russian Government to use on Jehovah's Witnesses, but they are a religious sect that also have no respect for privacy. True, they are not violent like Islamic terrorists, but at the same time they have no regard for people's privacy and want to prove that they are right by all means. Can you remember when a court in Nigeria awarded a man N5 million as a settlement as regards to MTN's annoying text messages and put sanctions against them? That's not much different from this. And JW are worse than MTN, in fact, they will start asking you questions about your personal life, and they just win't leave you alone until you agree to collect whatever pamphlet they're trying to share or if you pray with them. The last time these Chinese JW came to my place (I'm not religious, neither are most of my family) they were basically holding the gate, trying to prevent me from closing it. I think that's an intrusion that needs to be cautioned, although I don't think they are 'extremist' in the popular sense of the word

Have you asked them to leave your premises immediately and they insist on staying? When next they come and you told them to leave and they refuse to leave, please do call the police. Witnesses leave, when you asked them to..and we dont force our literature on people. The standing rule is that, if someone shows no interest in your message, dont give any literature, and even f you listen to them you can still reject the literature. Since they are so annoying to you...let me tell you something...just call the next ones that come around..tell them they should mark or note your apartment/room/house and tell the congregation or other members not to knock your door again..i guarantee you that they wont come again..because you have freed them of the biblical obligation to preach to you. You could even have it boldy written on your house...some people have done that and voila...the Witness pests are gone.....maybe you can use the same measures on MTN to stop unsolicited messages since you say its the same

Origin:
What were they in court for and why was the judgement given.



If the only heart surgeon in the world became a JW and he fell ill and could be saved but refused transfusions. What would be the impact Lost knowledge, future lives lost, the decline in the morale of doctors who could easily have saved him but couldn't, his loss to his family, future taxes lost.

For a militarized nation like Russia, not saluting the flag would probably be seen as treason or uncertainty about one's alliance.


Everybody has a right to religion. Everybody must also comply with the laws of the land.


See dilemma.


Russia that can shout war anyhow. Imagine if half the population become JW. Imagine if them force the JW go war, men you can't afford for any of them to be injured o. Cos he will refuse blood. Hmmmmm....

The case of the ministry of justice against the witnesses was a case of being extremists and having extremist literature such as my book of Bible stories, which was listed as an extremist literature. Extremism as defined by the Russian law is when you incite people to violence or cause violence. The ministry of justice could not provide a single incidence where witnesses comitted extremism. All the ministry witnesses were former JW and they were asked if there was any incident where they were asked, encouraged or forced to commit an act of extremism. Not one could bring a single incident. One said he was expelled from being a JW and therefore is a case of extremism, the lawyer of the JW quoted verses where that was applied and therefore is a doctrinal matter which is not the case in court, he also mentioned that the orthodox church expelled a famous author and despite calls in the media for his reinstatement the church has not done, so would the ministry of Justice charge the ROC for extremism based on that.

philGeo:
Hahaha, please no kill me with laugh, but Guy no even give the Judge space oh.

I have been following the proceedings online from the first day, as arguments and counter arguments are proffered. I suspected it would be a ban and it would come to nairaland and people who don't have an inkling of what is happening will just talk based on personal opinion and prejudices. The guy didn't waste time in opening a thread sharp sharp.

Amebo, you no go even let judge talk finish before you come nairaland.

Amebo

Hairyrapunzel:
You cannot concentrate on just only those verses there are verses preceding and following those verses talking about the same thing. The topic was on animals for sacrifice. They were not meant to kill humans in the first place so where will you see human blood in the first place. Don't give any excuse for the deaths caused by blood transfusion ban established in 1945.

Only two verses in a chapter of 16 verses to support death of millions caused by humans. Don't justify killings of children and adults by blood transfusion ban.

Russell taze and Rutherford didn't believe in blood transfusion ban that means they died in error. In thesame way nathan knorr banned vaccination and organ transplant for 13 and 30 years respectively. These acts would have led to people's death and people who died then died in error due to always changing doctrine. Who knows they might completely change the doctrine in the future so if you die before they change it you died in error too.

You accept autologous blood transfusion and blood fractions from blood donated by other people but yet you say blood transfusion is bad. Why the double standards?

You kill yourself cause a human being in 1879 promised you paradise on earth. Sucide bombers kill them themselves because of virgins promised to them. Yet you say they are bad what is the difference between you and them?

Paradise on earth was promised to all faithful mankind not by any man in 1879. If you cannot see the difference between someone voluntarily 'kills' himself as you would say, and someone who deliberately blows up others, then there isn't much you can discern.

igwegeorgiano:
i work with a multinational oil firm base in pharcourt. but am here as an expart. for security reasons i would not want to mention the organization that i work with cos many of my colleague are on nairaland but you can email me kingemma500@gmail.com lthanks

Hope its a new email and your colleagues don't know it else you have let the cat out of the bag and they snitch you to your boss.

paulGrundy:
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/wrong-ban-jehovahs-witnesses

Paul grundy go and sit down. We have dealt with far worse over the years, no one asked for your help. This is just a smoke_screen to vent your what-ills-you about withnesses, so shove it. But as the new adviser of the world's government on JW matters, congratulations. No be today, we have weathered more. You can also go and spool reports about persecution of witnesses because of our rejection of any military duties Eritrea, South Korea, that should give you additional fodder for your mission.

Imoala:
Part of my yam seedlings I am going to plant around late April or early may in Abuja. If u look closely u will notice I used ashes in preserving my seedlings , the head or top of my yams are always cut out neatly and rub with ashes to prevent them from decaying easily until the next planting season.


The second picture is whole seed yam I.e these ones are just the way they are brought from the farm and have not been cut, I didn't rub these with ashes cus they are not cut, but during planting I will cut them rub with ashes before planting them

These minisets are a bit big, I think you can still reduce the size and get more seed yams

admax:
You and your sister are both mad!

Modified
I visited her handle and saw this

"I'm sorry, if I ignored any message as regards my last night rant. For my sis sake I ll rather just pim. She's been through a lot already"

Someone would just wake up and start accusing men of God left and right as if it's a hubby. No proof no convincing statement yet a reputable blog like NL will decide to bring such nonsense to the front page just like that.

Those mad demonic agents on social media have started again and the day you will start seeing the consequence of these things is almost here. They wouldn't try such with Muslim clerics but since Pastors don't preach violence, they can write rubbish about them.

Muslim clerics don't claim, they just spoke to God last night, Muslim clerics don't become billionaires from donated money, Muslim clerics claim to have supernatural powers, Muslim clerics don't behave as if they next to God. So if you claim extraordinary ordinary holiness, why be surprised if people expect very high standard from you. They preach and rail against Canality, canal man, but they become slaves of money, slaves of fornication, slaves of greed, avarice, and pride. They have become more canal than the average Joe and they still make people believe they have all the anointing. They have become like the pharisees who elevated themselves and look down on tax collectors whereas their sins are more devious and devilish. To whom much is given much is expected, so if they claim to have so much anointing then much is expected from them.

zionmade:
It is d one who created d sheep knows d blind one. Now u have not heard d man before yet u wish to judge him one action u saw online. Is dat how God really judge us? Just by one action? Even God came close to sodom before declaring judgment upon them. How close have u gone to him?

The Bible says train your perceptive powers to distinguish right from wrong. I never judged him and am not talking about him per se. I only said leading a people as flock does not necessarily make you anointed, sat guru Maharaj has thousands of flock, reverend Kings sheep are still praying for the condemned man to be released. Someone who throws money from a car for people to scramble after it is looking for his own glorification. That action is condemnation. God condemns the man, and a man who keeps practicing condemnable actions has condemned himself.

queenfav:
Well.. Lemme jst jejely wait and see how this man would be finally disgraced. He came to my school(Delta state university,Law campus ) in 2012.He preached to a point and asked that we sow a seed of 3,000 naira to cast out demons that are holding us back from succeeding in life and our academics. I was like, how can a man of God specify what a person should sow as seed? So those that don't have 3k can't be d attended to?I have wisened up o, my money is not to feed any so called pastor. Let them get jobs, i am the best prophet over my life!

Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you but the heavenly father himself, Go and feed no clergy no more.

k199192:
[b] haba Explorers was the man ruling backwards or that's how they used to count the years that year.

Yeah that's how the years are counted from our point of view. Not the way the people themselves counted it.

Okuda:
If na nigeria now them for don kill the statue start to dey chop am

Den dey chop stone for your state? Please let us know your village it would be a great tourist attraction maybe it would transport your people from the stone age to our time.

Why we never chop the Nokia terracotta, the Ife and Benin bronze, the ikom figurines etc, if we were all stone eaters.

dazzlingd:
SHAME ON YOU!!!!
SHAME ON THE BLACK RACE

k

Something dey worry you. Who caused the extinction of most wild life with their hunting parties and assault rifle. Where an African village will kill one lion in 5 years and give the hunter chieftaincy, the white man came and killed dozens in a year and decorated his office with their skins.

zionmade:
All of us christians are men of God. But in d contest it was used here means he is a pastor. He has sheep under him and as long as dat is d case he also has d annointing to cater for those sheep so it can be dangerous to raise ur voice against dat annointing unless u can prove beyond doubts dat he is misusing it or dat such annointing dont exist at all

So as long as someone has sheep under him, then he has anointing. When Jesus said blind guides leading blind sheep, does that not nullify that idea.

zionmade:
As a Christian i have nothing to say. Its wrong to criticize a Man of God. Its only God who calls men know d ones he called and one he didn't. But if i come close to him i will ask him questions on d morality of his actions. But to stay far and call him names its too wrong

Where in the Bible did it say you cannot critique and condemn someone's actions regardless of who he is.