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KingEbukasBlog:
I posted a snippet instead . Reload your page

Am seeing the same thing, copy the definitions and paste them...

felixomor:
Without the greek, u wont know the word.

Why are u avoiding question?? Is the Greek translation more valid than the dictionary definition?

KingEbukasBlog:
Let me see this dictionary definition . See what these ones tell me

Why not open the pages, copy the definitions and post the links... It's not that hard. That's what felixomor and myself did

felixomor:
Yes

What's the purpose of a dictionary?? Definition or etymology??

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm not sure how this is difficult to understand

If you say that God exists , isn't the opposite God does not exist ?

And since page 1 , some people can't grasp this

This thing is very simple. Is the dictionary wrong? Yes or no??

felixomor:
Of course its oxford dictionary that showed u the entomology now?
Isnt it?

Was that d definition given??

felixomor:
The "more than that" are jara.
The greek definition remains the center.

If u gather the jara and leave the center, u r fake

What's this one saying like this... The Greek translation of an English word is more valid than the meaning in an English dictionary??
I already showed u how etymology fails to adequately define philosophy...

felixomor:
U r the one who brought "other cases" into this discussion.

U have to show why etymology is a reliable means of definition... If etymology doesn't explain every word then it's inconsistent and u can't just choose when u want to use etymology... But the dictionary definitions are more accurate... Yes??

felixomor:
The same OR used in Twelve OR a dozen?

Atheism, is a greek word derivative.

And it is mutually exclusive and contradictory to Theism.

U can only but suit urself.

Philosophy is a Greek word. And it etymologically means love of wisdom. But obviously, philosophy means more than that these days... The dictionary definitions supersede any etymological meaning

felixomor:
In this case, entomology does.
Sorry

Really?? Why in this case and not in every other case??

KingEbukasBlog:
1. That the universe is designed and that is evident of a designer in the Teleological Argument

2. Another evidence is that the universe began to exist and this evidence affirms premise 2 which logically follows premise 3 of the Cosmological Argument :Therefore the universe has a cause . And since the universe has a cause, the external cause (God) is its creator

3. We have agreed that objective moral values and duties exist and this affirms premise 3 in the Moral Argument : Therefore , God exists

But I'm disappointed . I was expecting so much talk on science and philosophy so that we can all learn .

But its page 15 and an atheist doesn't even understand or know the definition of atheism .

Anyway can we proceed to the

4 Ontological Argument

5 Leibniz Contingency Argument

You can study them and table your rebuttal .

*yawns* ... Your definition of atheism has no bearing on what it actually is... And it's totally irrelevant in the light of actual authoritative definitions... So nice try... Both the moral argument and cosmological arguments have been rubbished, there's no point beating a dead dog

felixomor:
Guy my dictionary showed u the greek root word, u refused to acknowledge.

I dont know why u r mentioning me when u refused to heed me

Etymology doesn't always reveal the current implications of a word.... And the definition u quoted had this: "Or lack of belief that God exists"

felixomor:
I even used the root greek word "a-theos" (meaning without or No God).

The guy no gree my brother.

Even the dictionary definition u quoted doesn't agree with u.. And etymology doesn't always reveal the actual current meaning of a word

felixomor:
U av not told me why the opposite of what u call good(rejection) is not bad ..
So right now, i dont know what u call "bad"

I dont think "bad" exists to u.

Of course bad exists... Does it exist to you??

DoctorAlien:
You guessed that right: why should the child see?

Kk

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is the belief there is no God or you can say that atheism is explicit conscious rejection of God(s)

So the dictionary definitions are incorrect, including the one felixomor quoted

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . There is no need to believe evidence and facts

Am sorry which evidence or which fact??

KingEbukasBlog:
A says that he believes or insists there's a cat in box and B rejects this belief or assertion , it means that

1. B is not certain that a cat is inside the box

2. B believes or insists there is no cat in the box


From 1 can be the agnostic stand

From 2 can be atheist stand

So why do definitions of atheism contain rejection of belief in god??

KingEbukasBlog:
Mtcheew

Shifting the goal post as usual .




Can any atheist show that atheism is not illogical . You atheists are embarrassing yourselves here .

Atheists are embarrassing themselves?? ... U like just making declarations and repeating them until u believe them... Nice try tho'

DoctorAlien:
Please, keep sarcasm aside: why should the child live with his/her sight?

So that he can see...
Now you will ask... Why should the child see?? Right?

KingEbukasBlog:
Death is a part of Life . Death to the physical body only frees or eternizes the spirit .

And when life forms die they help in the continuation of the sustenance of other life forms

Isn't the cycle of life ?

Cycle of life is a complex orderly and functional system .

By your logic, we can drown children to free or eternize them... Andrea Yates style

felixomor:
U said eyesight is good therefore blindness is bad.

If the opposite of what u claim to do(rejection of belief) is good, why do u deny its opposite is not evil?

So u are saying a child being blind is good, yes or no?

DoctorAlien:

U don't recognize sarcasm?? That's sad

felixomor:
What is the opppsite or Antonym of your atheism version?

Theism... What point are u trying to prove?? If u want to say a child losing his eyesight is good, just come out and say it...

DoctorAlien:


Without GOD, whatever you call evil has every reason to exist. That's what I've just shown you.

No... U didn't show anything. Or maybe I didn't get it. Come again, please

KingEbukasBlog:
How does it mean that God didn't get it the right time

God intentionally created a system where many people get killed pointlessly... If that was what he was gunning for, then he's not a good god

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm not sure why you people are fixated on this 'lack of belief' definition .

It makes babies and people who have no knowledge of God atheists . But it is wrong

1. Babies are born with a tabula rasa - a clean slate . They don't have the will or power to believe and consciously accept or reject the existence of God .

2. The lack of belief definition was first suggested by Baron d'Holbach and embellished by George Smith,it has been criticized as false and deceptive

3. For you to be a theist , you have to consciously and explicitly acknowledge God . Since theism is the opposite atheism then you have consciously and explicit reject the existence of God

You have to understand that here's the idea or knowledge of God , I don't agree with it , I refuse to acknowledge such a thing . Then I am now an atheist .

It has been criticized as false and deceptive?? Well, the dictionaries and encyclopedias still contain that definition of atheism... Your criticism doesn't change that...
Anyways, rejection of the belief that God exists is not the same thing as belief that God doesn't exists

KingEbukasBlog:
God created this system to get results and when this is achieved a new system will be implemented for the next events to unfold .

We're saying the same thing... God didn't get it right the first time.

DoctorAlien:
Why should the child live with his/her sight?

Okay... I agree, a child shouldn't live with his sight. Satisfied?

KingEbukasBlog:
I just told you that God will revamp the universe . That means a totally new system of functionality , complexity and order will be implemented . God can do something a thousand different ways and still get the result he desires.

This is redolent of the argument from desire .

Hmmmm.... So god didn't get it right the first time??
U didn't answer my yes or no question

DoctorAlien:
Why should the child live with his/her sight?

You're just asking ridiculous questions... If u are seriously asking why a human being should have sight...

felixomor:
Meaning Theism is evil?
Right?

No... I already explained to you, atheism is not merely a belief that there's no god, it's basically a lack of belief that there's god...