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Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m):
China`s industry is mostly export oriented, that is why it make let say 100 Grenades then India make 30 (Only for domestic consumption).
Lets come specific to point-wise so that we can bring statistics and Real Data in this discussion.
What are the items that only China makes and India dont make?
What are the items that only India makes and China dont make?
Answer is absolutely nothing.


Examples (what Both of these countries make):
India make ICBMs, China make ICBMs.
China make SLBMs, India make SLBMs
India make SSBNs (Boomers), China make SSBNs
China make ASTs (Anti Satellite Wepons), India make ASTs
India make Nukes, China make Nukes
China make Space Navigation system, India make IRNSS
India make Jets, China make jets
China makes Artillery, India makes Artillery.
India makes AESA, China makes AESA
India makes Aircraft Carrier, China makes Aircraft Carrier.

Now come to opposite side of your argument:
if India dont make then its 100% true that even china dont make,
if China dont make it then India dont make it


Examples(what Both of these countries dont make):
An Operational and Reliable Jet Engine.
High End BMD Systems (Both China and India dont make it): S-400 Triump BMD both are importing from Russia
High End Directed Energy Weapons : Both claims but still underdevelopment, not deployed unlike US

That is why there is always a stalemate, an equilibrium between these giants, Like Doklam 2017 and even now, No war just threats and back off.
Since all above is categorically specified , now you can ask for source of any above statements. I will provide proof for what i have said.
A proper way to debate or understand.

compton11:
India import most of its weapons https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2020/03/10/india-the-second-largest-arms-importer-in-the-world-next-only-to-saudi-report.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjg9-Hx7-fpAhWF66QKHWbxCTkQFjAUegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw19k3I4X-quo5DiQXcDrQF3


China is the second weapons producer

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.dw.com/en/china-is-now-worlds-2nd-biggest-weapons-producer-sipri-report/a-52160429&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjE4brD8OfpAhUCCuwKHd5KCmAQFjAGegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1nkj2TNw43hYObjsgC0z0W
Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 10:44am On Jun 04, 2020
You used word "MOST". this is the problem with us, without proper data and accuracy we just generalize.
There is no country in the world that makes 100% of its arms and weapons. (Most importantly its not feasible due to economic cost factors)
If you cant let me State properly, China`s mainstay SU 27 (Russian), SU-30MKK (Russian), Latest SU-35(Russian), Chinese Chengdu J7 (Russian Designed and based on MIG 21 Frame), Shenyang J-11 (Completely based upon SU 27).
Virtually all Chinese in Operation Aircraft have Russian engines.

Read below source links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-11

Mention me only when you have something with Facts based upon credible statistics, And validated sources. Not your thoughts or fairy tails I only discuss with Facts and Credible sources to prove what i am saying.

compton11:
well at least most of the weapons China are using,they are manufacturing them while India import most of her weapons
CrimeRe: Declare Rape National Crisis, Amnesty Tells Buhari by rationalhuman(m): 8:59am On Jun 04, 2020
you are right, Ignorant and people with low IQ can buy any crap from any cheap blog or whats app post etc.
Image is just a comparison.
Sweden, Norway have a rape crisis but you will never hear about these, infect most of the people will be in shock to hear that Rape cases are highest in Sweden.


SoNature:
NONSENSE

Nigeria has not declared power crisis, which has ruined its economy for decades

Now...AI wants the government to declare RAPE crisis. These guys have run out of ideas.

I'm sure many countries have more rape cases than Nigeria, including India. Those countries still downplay it. We need to find out why people are getting raped before talking about declaring any crisis

While rape is condemnable, this country has more important things to worry about (like Covid-19 crisis and wanton killings in Nigeria's north)

Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 9:10pm On Jun 03, 2020
You are trying to educate him but he is unable to understand.
Problem is that people here talk too much garbage , when you ask for Solid Credible Statistics, facts, resources, they start to use foul language and later just shy away. Too many ignorant who dont know how to debate logical. they think its a matter of ego for them.

Gerrard59:
Well, they aren't important in the wider scheme of things. India is more important to the world's economy than Zambia, Zimbabwe and most of their likes. Remove diamonds from Botswana and most people won't know her on the map. The wider Sub-Saharan Africa should be rich to be able to influence key decisions. Regarding your first paragraph, that's where it starts and stops - potentials. The world needs to see the results. China had same potentials in the 60s and 70s.
Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 9:05pm On Jun 03, 2020
Credible source and Statistics please? or you were just telling us your fairytails?

Juchii:
We are not talking how rich India is, we all that they have one of the most poorest citizens.
Many of their women are into prostitutio, not even a good environment but in the bushes. Stop talking rubbish
Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m):
Advance in which field? Software development? Information Technology? Petrochemical Refining Complex? Distillation Technology? Science? Engineering? Pharmaceutical production? Disease and Vaccine research? Bio Warfare capabilities? Industrial Manufacturing? Renewable energy? Nuclear Research? Military Might? Space research? Ionization Plasma research? Communication system developments? agriculture production? Education, Doctoral Research? You decide, you choose any one particular field and just mention me.
I will make sure that from now on you will have real knowledge,

Just one important note, I reply only with Authentic Data,Genuine credible Sources and from Reputed sources Resources, i never tells fairy tails or thoughts of my minds just Pure Facts based upon solid evidences. And i expect the same. Choose in which field any Nation from this continent is ahead of them and let me burst your myth. Awaiting for your selection.
Efewestern:
We are poor, how do you measure wealth?

Greed, mismanagement, wickedness are the reasons our continent seems poor, we have all it takes to match with a nation like India for example.

Some southern African countries are far advanced than India and other Asian countries.
PoliticsRe: South Africans Want To Colonized Nigeria (photos) by rationalhuman(m): 7:16pm On Jun 03, 2020
Thanks for info.
Austine1213:
South africans (blacks, whites,indians, chinese) do no leave their country

South african companies are public companies, they have different shareholders,.... BBBEE ensure black ownership of businesses, the PIC is one of the largest shareholders in MTN, Shoprite,.. Etc PiC is civil servents investment (90%black)
PoliticsRe: South Africans Want To Colonized Nigeria (photos) by rationalhuman(m): 3:06pm On Jun 03, 2020
Yes because SA companies are getting preferences be it in Taxation and Licencing.

Otherwise in actual free market your Companies can not survive against the Gaints from Asia and west.

BTW I only use Airtel, much better and i am proud to be a part of a Truly "Global, an International Network" unlike local MTN etc.
With Airtel, I always get Global coverage and Worldwide support.

Binikingdowm:
grin nigeria is a joke of a country Sha.

South Africa companies in Nigeria include MTN, ShopRite, DStv,gotv, zenith Bank etc.

Mtn is Nigeria biggest network provider and Nigeria largest NSE.

ShopRite is nigeria largest shopping business.

DStv is nigeria largest cable provider
PoliticsRe: South Africans Want To Colonized Nigeria (photos) by rationalhuman(m): 3:02pm On Jun 03, 2020
They day Whites, Indians and Koreans will leave SA, it will become another Zimbabwe.
Thanks to these foreigners , south africans are surviving, they are good at nothing.
Princewill1:
The Black South African idi.ot talking of colonization should know that SA companies in Nigeria are all owned by the south African Whites and Asians not the lazy black baboons.

He should know that the real definition of colonization is what the Whites and Asians are doing in SA. The Economic colonization of blacks in SA is horrible that's why South Africa is the world's most unequal country.
Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 2:42pm On Jun 03, 2020
What is the superpower? first define that.
India and China both are acting like global powers not like the Superpower. They are still 2,3 decades away to claim the status of superpowers.

Only US is the Sole superpower of the world.

compton11:
all what u saying is baseless,the thing is India want to act like they are super power by military while they ain't.
CrimeRe: #JusticeForBarakat: Barakat Bello Raped And Killed In Ibadan by rationalhuman(m): 2:12pm On Jun 03, 2020
"Sigh. Keep burying your head in the sand"

Above this is what you call Fact and Data? Any way Best wishes.

tot:
Sigh. Keep burying your head in the sand undecided
CrimeRe: #JusticeForBarakat: Barakat Bello Raped And Killed In Ibadan by rationalhuman(m): 2:06pm On Jun 03, 2020
Yes on this i am completely agree with you, Victims can just dream of getting justice.

While not only rapist get punishments in other countries, but there are various government Financial support programs for victims in Norway France and India.
Also Society over there is so much supportive and sympathetic to victim that they try to make Victim feels secure and safe.


We can not dream such justice and Social, Financial support here.

Ladycewhy:
I am not disputing the link you have,I am only telling you why it's like that because rape convictions are nearly impossible in Nigeria.

You heard when uwa's sister said police asked them for mobilisation money before even taking up the case ,these and many other reason is the reason why Nigeria is not at the top of the charts. Nigeria glorifies rape culture and silences rape victims coupled with the "justice for sale " mentality in the judiciary .
CrimeRe: #JusticeForBarakat: Barakat Bello Raped And Killed In Ibadan by rationalhuman(m): 1:17pm On Jun 03, 2020
Come with Valid facts based upon properly validated data, Argue with rationality if you want.
If i can learn something new or update my knowledge about anything, i will heartily accept but come with Authentic sources and Reports, not empty words.


tot:
Continue trying to twist the truth rather than facing the fact staring us all in the face that rape cases are rising exponentially in Nigeria. Good luck to you, continue digging up links. Irrelevant links.
CrimeRe: #JusticeForBarakat: Barakat Bello Raped And Killed In Ibadan by rationalhuman(m): 1:14pm On Jun 03, 2020
I talk with Authentic Sources and Data, Not with cheap gossips. I like Facts not rhetoric.
Yes Sweden and Norway are the leaders in rape crimes. if you want to refer latest UN crime Stat. Report let me know, will share the link.

Here are the sources:
Source 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
Source 2: https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/rape-statistics-by-country/


Same like when someone says that Nigerians are the Online criminals, then i can prove by facts and valid sources (not cheap blogs) that its actually China and Russia from where most of online criminals comes from.
Ladycewhy:
oh Norway and Sweden are the leaders ,is that the new song? Una nor dey Shame for una self? Like seriously , what is it that Nigeria has to show compared to those countries ,also you should check the level of convictions and justice served before you talk anyhow.


Rape is under reported and under prececuted in Nigeria that is why Nigeria is not toping the charts yet.
CrimeRe: #JusticeForBarakat: Barakat Bello Raped And Killed In Ibadan by rationalhuman(m): 1:09pm On Jun 03, 2020
So now your question is that Nigeria dont have data? I agree, so that means you can not blame Nigeria either cause i can argue Nigeria have only 105 rape per year, you also can not prove me wrong as there is no data to prove me wrong as well.

That is why my calculation is double the numbers of rap crimes in Nigeria and yet it is not very high.

BTW let me introduce you to the fact that France, India, Norway keeps the record in digital format in their National Crime Database Servers.
Especially India where every crime is linked via their Bio-metrically verified UIDAI (Unique Identification Number) (A Digital Database reference point).
Source
: https://uidai.gov.in/

This can be assessed nanywhere by single OTP

And according to UN report UN statistics matched with Indian Digital Crime Records with accuracy of +-2.27%, so for Nigeria i assume worst case matching of 5%, still Nigeria is not a Rapist Country.


tot:
For a country like Nigeria where we don't keep track or statistics of crimes, you expect me to take a UN link as the reflection of the true situation of things in Nigeria? When we have a database and open records & statistics, then we can actually see where we stand.

For a borough in the UK, you can view the crime stats for different categories of crimes. Please share where similar info can be viewed in NIGERIA.
Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 12:57pm On Jun 03, 2020
Not much and India is aware of that because India already have a Naval Berth base in Qatar.
Most of the people are not aware that India already has largest Military base in Djibouti Military base at its disposal.
Now this is very interesting.
In 2018 US and India signed LEMOA, This was implemented in 2018. By this Agreement both US and Indian militaries can utilize Military facilities.
Sources: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/lemoa-already-fully-operational/article24904359.ece
http://www.maritimegateway.com/us-india-sign-military-logistics-agreement/
also India itself the Net Security provider of maritime security for Indian Ocean Region.

That is why instead of Djibouti it is spending more money for Seychelles base and Madagascar.

compton11:
what is the purpose of India having military base in Djibouti?
CrimeRe: #JusticeForBarakat: Barakat Bello Raped And Killed In Ibadan by rationalhuman(m): 12:45pm On Jun 03, 2020
Last week i was reading Report Published By United Nation 2018 (19-20 will be released next year)
Here is UN Source Link to download: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/about-unodc/annual-report.html

Your statement were wrong because both India and Nigeria are among the least rape incident occurring countries.


anything else?
tot:
This link you are posting to support your point is only up till 2011. We are in 2020.
CrimeRe: #JusticeForBarakat: Barakat Bello Raped And Killed In Ibadan by rationalhuman(m): 11:16am On Jun 03, 2020
Your facts are nothing but fictions, Why blaming Nigeria?

Legalcriminal:
After overtaking India as the poverty capital the way girls are raped now it seems Nigeria will also overtake as Rape Capital.

Father Lawd we are fucking tired
CrimeRe: #JusticeForBarakat: Barakat Bello Raped And Killed In Ibadan by rationalhuman(m): 11:13am On Jun 03, 2020
When was the last time rather then relying on cheap whatasapp or Facebook post you updated yourself?
Why blaming Nigeria? Do you even know Sweden and Norway are the leaders? Honestly tell me even knew this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

Ladycewhy:
Is anyone still in doubt that Nigeria has surpassed India as rape headquarters? Perverted Nigerian men ,spits

Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 11:01am On Jun 03, 2020
Its ironic that we people lecture India or poverty, Both India and China drastically reducing poverty.
India uplift 44 People out of poverty every minute, yes per minute. Can you imagine such miracle in Nigeria? ask yourself.

The real shame is that While Both India and China have almost 1.4 Billion people still they have much much less poor people then a country like Nigeria which has only 200M people. And story doesn't ends here, While poverty is reducing rapidly in Asia, its rapidly increasing in Nigeria.

US, France and India are strategic partners, Let me update you just last year US has changed its Asia Pacific Naval command to INDO-PACIFIC.
BTW India already has various Military bases like Tajikistan, Maldives etc


compton11:
India should take care of her people poverty before trying to act like world power in term of military,that is what I'm talking.

what is the essence of India having military base In Africa, they are trying to imitate US?

Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 10:52am On Jun 03, 2020
Indorama ELEME Petrochemicals Ltd (Port Harcourt)
Current Investment 1.2 Billion USD, Expansion work and new unit work investment total 6.4 Billion dollar.
just one company is more then enough to make you understand this. No need to go on further. 6.4 Billion USD (I hope you understand how massive that amount is)


Sources: http://www.indorama.com/news/3
https://www.businessamlive.com/indoramas-investment-in-nigeria-to-hit-6-4bn-by-2025/
https://www.indoramaeleme.com/

compton11:
start it then
Technology MarketRe: Which Brand Has The Best Air Conditioner? by rationalhuman(m): 8:21am On Jun 03, 2020
So you are saying Jashnmal Superstores in Duabi, Abu dhabi, Riyadh would use those Voltas HVAC systems (if the quality was not good?)
Burj Khalifa would use Liquid Chilling equipment from Alfa laval India and Kirloskar (if they were not extremely good quality?)

If you have never been to UAE then i suggest you read something(Before mention me) about Quality and Comfort level standards of Burj Khalifa and Jashnmal.
sacramento1212:
When i insisted on a Malaysian country of origin, it's based on an all round durability which has been tested & trusted not only by me, but a lot that either sold or used the unit even from the days of National before Panasonic took over.

A durable air-condition unit isn't all about the cooling but the quality of the cooling parts, mechanical & electrical parts(Evaporator, condenser, compressor, Fan, capacitor, etc)

It's not the weather of a country of manufacture that determines the long term durability of an air-condition unit but rather the quality of materials used in production. Same way you cannot compare a Generator or Car Engine built in Japan with the one built in Korea because quality aren't same.

India was never known for this except they have improved and many that used them have attested to it.
PoliticsRe: Imo Women Shut Sterling Global Oil Company Over Unpaid Burial Rites by rationalhuman(m): 7:14am On Jun 03, 2020
Nigerians abuses Nigerians much worse and large, all around the world (Including Nigeria) more then any White, Indian, Chinese can imagine. so what?

eagleu:
Indians abuse Nigerians in India. Indians abuse Nigerians in Nigeria?
Technology MarketRe: Which Brand Has The Best Air Conditioner? by rationalhuman(m): 7:11am On Jun 03, 2020
I hope you can understand this point, During my Study time in India back in 2009, i did Internship in Cyber city Gururam in Gurugram.
While winters can go freezing cold and windy, Summers it was reaching 49 degrees C with a dry heatwave, You can not understand this thing unless you experience it by yourself.

You may die by heatwave by just walking 1 km (Same like Saudi and Iranian parts). So Air Conditioning equipment in India are specifically designed to bear such terrible temperatures and loads. That is why you will see a lot of HVAC projects in Dubai, Saudi are being done by Indian HAVC APCs.

Only robust and very high quality air conditioner can survive in India, UAE and Saudi.
Thus quality of India`s Airconditiong, Chilling equipment are unmatchable.


On the note let me point out , i lived in UAE and Iran as well but not in Saudi, so i know what temperatures i am talking about.
sacramento1212:
India, China, Singapore, etc will still work but Malaysia is usually more durable and rugged but only that the cost is usually higher. The price you bought the India made will be cheaper than Malaysia.

But in all, it will still perform. Hope for the best.
Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 6:49am On Jun 03, 2020
For entire continent it will be massive and will require for a month. can we start from Nigeria alone?

compton11:
just tell me
Foreign AffairsRe: Im Ashamed Of Africa Leaders by rationalhuman(m): 10:53pm On Jun 02, 2020
Are you really not aware?

compton11:
what money has India invested in Africa?
PoliticsRe: Imo Women Shut Sterling Global Oil Company Over Unpaid Burial Rites by rationalhuman(m): 9:45pm On Jun 02, 2020
Can you post a single Credible link that fella was killed? Cause till now Nigerian embassy does not acknowledge, No news in any International newspapers.
All we see a brawl video on some blog or Niaraland.

These days you can not believe everything posted.
Dpharisee:
Companies should learn to respect the Customs and traditions of their host communities. You killed their people in an accident and refuse to show empathy to the bereaved families, perhaps the Indian company feel it's the responsibility of the Army whose personnel drove the vehicle to reach out to the families?

If you add to the recent murder of a Nigerian by a mob in India wrongly accused of picking pocket by a woman who could not even be traced you realise that many Indians (not all please) don't have respect for Nigerians and are poor racists.
Technology MarketRe: Which Brand Has The Best Air Conditioner? by rationalhuman(m): 7:04pm On Jun 02, 2020
While returning from Singapore In 2004, my cousin bought a Blue Star Air conditioner,
Till last year it was working absolutely fine (he just had to recharge gas once) and he had to sold it last year as Its yellow color was not matching with his apartments`s interior.

I dont know if this is available anywhere, I have seen them in Malaysia, Indonesia and India. Man that quality was superb.
If not then go for Panasonic.

NigerianMan:
Good day Boss,

Please I got a Panasonic AC recently and it was made in India. I hope my egungun never enter express??
Foreign AffairsRe: Chinese Military Getting Humiliated Again In Himalayas by rationalhuman(op): 7:16pm On Jun 01, 2020
Massive Deployment from India, I wish we could have done something to Chinese who are milking this continent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K76mP5D-UGE
Foreign AffairsRe: Chinese Military Getting Humiliated Again In Himalayas by rationalhuman(op): 7:12pm On Jun 01, 2020
Not your words but Credible Statistics?
See i posted with Video.
Subduer:
China is now No 1 world Super Power. China is now superior to the United States.

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