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edon21:
to you is India a First World country?

I was about to visit Johannesburg for my company`s work but i think now it will not be possible before 2021, Then i can have better understanding.

Justnotyou:
Nah not far, far ahead. Arguably not even ahead.

Except one parameter Per Capita parameter, I guess India is far far ahead.
I was about to visit Johannesburg for my company`s work but i think now it will not be possible before 2021, Then i can have better understanding.

edon21:
so which is a better or more developed country, South Africa or India

what a childish behavior.

I dont post Negative data against anyone against anyone in any discussion, Thats not me.
just positive ones. Period

samorobo:
And I will post numerous articles as well...A tit for a tat...

Anyone can post hundreds of stories about Nigerians rotting in prisons in entire Asia, You want to read them again? as i told you, i dont post negatives stories, only positive ones. But i am sure someone else can post if you wnat.

samorobo:
Lol you.kyst be mistaken Nigeria for Kenya....check Chennai or Delhi prisons ..it has to be Kenyans...
You are their little cesspit colony

GBTU Greater Noida

Raustin:
Such great exposure to modern concepts in computing can't be found anywhere in Nigerian universities. You're fortunate. What's the name of the university you graduated from?

Yaah thats something nostalgic, I was in India that time (University days) and that Micromax canvas HD2 was craze, i got one, Device was fantastic.
Micromax and Lava both destroyed established norms overs there, Indian public gave loud massage they want Best Technology not a Celebrity endorsed product at high price.

Then Micromax did the same mistake, But Lava is still a thing. Not only they are making for south Asian market but supplying few components back to china as well.

chariisGRACE:
Go read about the Fallout of Micromax in the Indian Smartphone Market.
Before Xiaomi, Oppo etc. entered India, Micromax, and Lava were in control of the Indian market. Xiaomi's first year in India saw it in the league of the top 5 smartphone in India because their devices were cheaper and offers more for less. And Micromax, just like Transsion instead of upping their game what they did was endorsing Hollywood and India's celebrities 'upandan'.

I dont want to go that way but seems to me its true, that you Nigerians dont have empathy for your fellow bros and sis lying in Jails not only in India but in all south east Asian countries. when you are going to do something about it?

samorobo:
You are still making noise ..you are Inndia's little cesspit colony...

Desperate Kenyans are on Atlantic oceans, on their way to Europe... shiithole Inndia is almost not an option for Nigerians......that is like an upgraded Bangladesh

Mostly Nigerians, they are literally dying to go but dying in jails as well.

samorobo:
You are making noise, you are their little colony..that's the point...

Who would want to go to third world,zoo inndia...lol

They dont search you twice with Kenyan Passport, Go with Nigerien Green one and check their response, A little hesitation and Anti Narco Agents will be unleashing dogs to sniff the pants.
Its true, although they dont usually do this with Ghanian Passport holders, it still has its better image.

samorobo:
Not surprised..you are their little colony..

While enroute to Nairobi, i saw almost 200-250 patients with Iran, Lebanon and Turkish passport, many of them on were wheelchairs accompanied by their family members.
Airport Information staff call these flights as "Ambulances".There are 6 weekly flights from Tehran Iran to Delhi.
So Dont bring fake ego here, Patients from every country go there, Not from this continent but from Europe and Canada also.
You will find plenty of people from Ghana as well, For them its even a long rout, from Nairobi its close.
Also compare to a Ghanian person its easier for a Kenyan to get Indian visa.

Just30:
At least i will get a good hospital in Accra for such a surgery.

Too bad you will have to fly to India to get such a surgery.



That is the underdevelopment we are talking about

Very old news , i remember i saw about 11-12 years ago, This tribe live near to China border, All are Christians.

Thanks to my university professors and Lab support (I got my university degree from India) STL is my core command.
I do machine control algorithms, programming and control loops.
I joined one 2 semester GUI and Database assimilation course in NIIT India (During my last year of University degree) and the level of teaching, tools , Live projects they provide , we can not dream over here.

Elias555:
Well, I am a Web Developer, Mobile App Developer (Android), Certified Ethical Hacker, Programmer, Java Script Writer as well E-Commerce Developer. I am currently studying Python, AWS as well as E-Commerce on Mobile Application (Android) with Appin Technology Lab in India. I have many clients that i have built websites for them and they are extremely happy.

In Nigeria IT is a marketable profession but we are not been taught up to the level to compare other developed Countries e.g India, UK,US etc. Even Aptech and NIIT don't teach the latest IT Courses, Its better professionals who have these experiences should come forward and teach those who are inspired to become an IT guru. We are lacking behind in terms of IT ideologies.

You forgot to add below

People from India and Germany comes to Nigeria for Lifesaving and Critical Medical Treatment.
Students from USA, China, India, Uk comes to Nigeria just to study in UNILAG.
Banking system is so safe and strong People from France and Switzerland come to deposit their money here.
Medicines, vaccines, Computers, Phones etc are being exported from Nigeria to Taiwan, China and India.
Nigerian yahoo yahoo IT experts are leading world`s top IT/Software companies in Silicon Valley USA and in India.
Nigerian Tourism sector is so famous, Hospitable and cozy that world`s top tourist destinations like Bali, Pattaya, Istanbul, Goa, Venice etc are lagging behind.
Nigerian Government and Bank has so much overflow they are lending loans to IMF, China, USA, UK, India, Japan.
Nigerian Automobiles are being exported to Japan and Germany.

computergenius:
NIGERIA THE GIANT OF AFRICA:
1. Nigeria is the number one African nation in the world.
2. Nigeria has the largest economy in Africa
3. Nigeria is the largest oil exporter in Africa
4. Nigeria is the country with the largest population in Africa.
5. Nigeria has the highest number of universities and polytecnics in Africa.
6. Nigerian medical doctors are among the best in the world.
7. Nigeria has a large oil reserve that can last up to 100 years.
8. Nigeria has a large amount of mineral resources like iron ore, limestone, gold, coal, copper, aluminium, and tin.
9. Nigeria is the country with the brightest future in Africa.
10. Nigerians travel a lot: There are an estimated 3 million Nigerians in America, 2 million Nigerians in Canada, 1 million Nigerians in UK, 500,000 Nigerians in Dubai.
11. Nigeria allows other Africans to live and work in Nigeria. Here you will find people from Ghana, Benin, Togo, Libaria, Cameroon, Niger, south africa, Egypt, Israel, India, china, Japan, Russia etc.

I got my university degree from India back in 2008-09 then did Training for 3 years. Lived there total 8 years,
Once injured my leg and admitted in a small town government hospital, I can not dream of such free medical treatment in our big hospitals.
Forget about small operation, Medicines they give over there are absolutely free. Not to mention food as well.

We can just dream such thing in this continent, our real problem is , we have nothing but too much fake ego.
Too many Keyboard Visitors and experts, who think by reading few blogs and few google searches they know everything.

I suggest dont rely on what i said, ask anyone returning from India about availability healthcare for their Citizens, Cost of Medicines, test etc

maasoap:
Good medical care for Indians living in India? I think you've been reading wrongly lately. Is it because of the way our people do medical tourism to India every year? The slums, poverty and poor living conditions in Nigeria is nothing compared to that of India.

so many Not Technical people who has absolutely no knowledge about any Petro Chemical industry or modern operation, are asking why we need People from India or anywhere else. Ignorant dont know how Complex these things are.

I am posting just two images of a Automated Control system.
Leave Nigeria aside, This entire continent (Except SA) has not a single Engineer Developer to Developer, design or Troubleshoot issues in a Mega Architecture.

Image one is a typical configuration of any Automated Mega PROCESS plant,
Image Two is a Typical Dual Redundant Processing rack system (Normal execution rate is 10 floating point calculations within 2 microseconds)
Bus is Profibus PA along with Fieldbus +Modbus+ Profinet + TCP/IP Layers for MIS only.

Same kind of Dual standby Hot redundancy, Quad Redundancy is being used in any kind of modern 4 G, 5G advance fighter aircrafts be it American F-16 Block D or higher, F-35,Russian SU -30, SU-27, Indian Tejas MK-1 or MK-1A, French Rafael.
Ignorance is bad but not trying to understand is the real curse.

I worked 15 years under Indian Engineers, Developers, Technical Experts, under German Engineers in the field of Control systems, HV,MV,LV, Smart Instrumentation, Process functionality etc. Our typical Black attitude is the real curse, Not only we dont know things, we dont want to listen and learn as well. We are 80 -100 years behind the world. i am fed up explaining things and tired of spreading awareness among ourselves in this continent.

So you will those specialized Technical Tasks? They are not Normal Workers.
Tell me what kind of skill set you have? People like you are the one of the reason we are still suffering, always unproductive and creating obstacles.

OlaPhils:
These bastards should never allowed to come back. There is no Nigerian working in Indian company in India

Not true, Logic tells us this can not be true.
Worlds dirt cheap Internet is available in India, Last time i visited there in 2018 and in the price of one water bottle i got 3 gb data at that time, i am sure it must be atleast 5,6 gb now. Like 20 Naira for 1GB
Wait for investigation to be complete.

You are crying foul. Can you do field Termination of PRD Connected to Profibus PA network?
Can you do Commission , troubleshoot SF6 GIS RMU?

You dont have skills and crying because someone is much much more skilled, educated, Experience and capable ?
Update yourself, Get some knowledge , skill set and then think about good life like Foreigner experts.
I have worked under them , i know what it takes them to reach at such levels. Mr. Dangote will not hand over his Multi million USD plant just to be ruined within seconds.

Ignorance at its peak.

klickstar:
Please my people let's stop receiving ourselves there are thousands of Indians working as expatriate at the refinery living good life above Nigerians who happens to be helpers(slaves) probably those that left are not in good terms with their employers because there are different India companies operating like onshore,chemitech,mechtech etc please come over there and experience standard modern slavery I can't explain it all here thanks.

Nigerian State, its Military, Its System all were created by the colonial masters just to serve supporters of colonization, to serve Islamic Population and Islamic cause.
They just pretend fighting against Boko Terrorists, while from Top you will sense reluctance to eliminate Boko Terrorists.
While Non Muslims are working hard, creating revenues for the state, Funding its military (in the name of One Nigeria) that will ultimately will be unleashed on anyone dare to object Nigerian islamization, like they did to Igbos.

Recent events leads us to Doubt that these Boko Terrorists are being nurtured to be a future militia ,being prepared to serve the real masters,
No wonder within decade or so , they may surrender only to be incorporated in Nigerian military itself. This had happened in many countries, From Sudan, Iraq, Syria and Somalia.
Within one or two generations there will Sharia laws deep in Lagos.

You are right about it,That is exactly what happens and is happening.
Below Engineering staff and few Critical operation supervisors all remains local people.

Have you noticed,Here are too many Ignorant people who have never step a foot inside a Proper Industrial plant are questioning need of foreign experts, this shows our knowledge and wisdom.

They dont know and dont want to know that Just To operate a HP Boiler you have to have 3 different post Diploma Technical Certificates from USA, India or Germany (not to mention years of actual operation experience as well).
Worldwide Most reputed controllers and auditors and Certificate providers are USA NB-370, IBR (Indian Boiler Regulation Authority) and EnEV 2014, 15 Certification from Germany.

I am sure a lot of people here dont understand how dangerous it can be to do mistakes in High Pressure Industrial Boiler operating at 130 bar steam pressure in close loop.
That is why Expert Technical people are required.
And this is just one Example of just one machine in any plant. Ignorance is bad but not trying to understand is nothing but a curse.

bilulu:
Maybe you have not put a fellow Nigerian to run your business, they will run it aground and embezzle all your money. If you try to monitor them 24/7 you will hear them complain. We have this attitude of "he has money so let's chop our own". What I would have suggested is the managerial positions should be Indians while Nigerians will do the rest.

I wonder when can we see here women paying the Groom Price? This would be a real equality. A lot of girls with fake Indian Hair and too much cosmetics to lighten the skin, have some kind of entitlement, instead of working hard they just dream of a rich guy to leach upon him.
Here women just suck the blood out of the men.
They just look for a rich guy to settle, no matter who he is, what he does and how old he is.

Lightangel64:
Nope india people are useless konji bastards. A country where women pay bride price, so there are many unmarried people.
But statistics show that in every 10 rape cases in india five are false accusations
Making it 50% false accusations.

But for nigeria we don't have statistics for this so it may be higher or lower

Absolutely, We as a race are cursed, Most unproductive, Most ignorant people on this planet.

yet you see on another thread, There are people arguing why in Dangote ,All the Sr. Engineers, Technical experts, Developers are from India.
We dont have a Quad Redundant HOT Redundant DCS ACS Engineer in entire continent (Except maybe SA), and we are challenging Dangote.

We dont have a single company able to design HP Boiler (All are importing from China, India, Korea) yet we are asking why like Indians , Nigerians are not making a Mega Petrochemical Complex for Dangote.

Can you imagine such height of ignorance and dumbness? sometimes i just dont reply but read helplessly, in which direction we are going.

teepain:
The problem is not in the absolute population; the problem is in the percentage of the unproductive population.

Sad it may seem, the truth is that the only profitable thing some people would have done by the end of today is coommenting on Nairaland! And that doesn't add a dime to our GDP.

So many people are waiting to consume the cake baked by few people!

I know you are trying to inform and educate him, and may be he can understand but most of the people here are so ignorant, even though they havent seen a DCS controlled Factories they asked why DCS developers from India are here in Dangote.

Ignorance is a curse and its found in us Blacks in abundance. We are nothing yet we try to showoff we are the world.
Fake Ego, Nothing productive.

gbagyiza:
There r some jobs we still don't have the expertise to carried out. Most of these companies like that of Dangote, they have complicated automation machines that need the help of an expert n we refused to send the blacks to learn it in overseas, we prefer importing these guys into Nigeria.

"What about the people? Highly racist. "
what you want to say by saying that in this story case? Yes Me and you may face racism over there but these Technicians flying back to India are not Nigerians so they are not going to face that. so what is the point of your saying in this issue.
i am laughing so hard. lol

Think before you type.

Cantonese:
Oh so that's what you think? Well there may be better organised hospitals but their doctors are not more spectacular than ours!
What about the society? Is it anywhere better than the Nigerian society? No. Everywhere stinks there. What about the people? Highly racist. Now do you know that Indians everyday beg to get jobs in Nigeria? Bros do not rejoice. Go and check all these for yourself.

Get a clue from just below one answer,
There is not a single one Technical expert in Entire African continent (Except SA) ,capable of establishing and troubleshooting an Interoperable communication between Rack to rack in Hot Redundant DCS system bus (Automated Control System), where the bus is connected to Porfibus PA and DP, Modbus and PROFINET Network, along with MIS functionality upto ERP system.

I can tell you more reasons if you want.

olaboy33:
I wonder why dangote will need 270 workers from India alone in a country of over 100 million available work force.

It's not untrue that our educational system is not in order, but adequate training will fill the gap.

Use Nigeria, grow Nigeria.

We'll remain committed.

Boye2023

Good for them
Atleast they can get good medical care over there.
While for us, once this pandemic picks up it momentum, we all have to suffer.

While we dont have anywhere to go (this continent is all what we have) So Be careful and stay safe folks,

What is that sophisticated military hardware that China makes but India dont? Just name any from that list.
I hope this time you will not dodge.

compton11:
how the mess is what I'm saying relate to what u are saying?

Bro if you Have money? then go to India.
You should be in consultation with Doctors even before planning for the kids.
There are certain Genome technologies and experts over there to do some preventive treatment so your kids will not be AS. Good wishes.

bigmodo:
I am an As and I am getting married to an As. I love this girl so much that I am moving forward to marry her.

We have done our introduction and our traditional marriage is next month. I know the complications of an As marrying As in the issues of children they might give birth to. But I have no choice. I want to marry the love of my life.

Same question again, What is that sophisticated military hardware that China makes but India dont?
And you again dodge that point, again telling stories?
Either state that Hardware or their is no point of diverting the question you raised. Stick to that.

There is only one sole superpower that is USA, both China and India are atleast 2 decades away to get that tag. But Russia, India, China are indeed global powers.

Secondly who are you and me to decide who is what? So lets asked the Professionals, Most Reputed Ranking system in the world GFP USA.
GFP has more then 60 personal staff dedicated to just one work, Collect data, Validate ,analyze and rank the countries.
Keep in Mind Annual GFP list includes every factor of a nation, Military might, R& D, Economy, Power Projection capabilities except nukes.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

compton11:
but China make more weapons than them without external Help though
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/india-struggles-to-match-china-as-elite-world-weapons-exporter/articleshow/62733075.cms&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi3gazzpujpAhWL2qQKHYqCDC4QFjANegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0tx54hu4CFPwC21sykpRLY

Russia are India ally especially in weapons export and weapons manufacturing.


China export more weapons than India

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/india-struggles-to-match-china-as-elite-world-weapons-exporter/articleshow/62733075.cms&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiFvZWdqOjpAhWlMewKHTO-AbgQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0fugBEkhhyGtSXAyb2QHvM


I'm not saying India are not powerful but they should stop acting like world power by military because they ain't.

just because they are kicking Pakistan ass don't make them of of the world power compare to Russia,japan,US

even Iran that are most powerful in middle East are not acting like world power.

by this 2020 China are still third most powerful country by military behind US and Russia.

You stated that not about china but you have doubts about india,
I stated that choose any one of the mentioned Defense items (you have doubt that India dont make), If you have doubt, choose one and i will post absolute authentic source that India also make that.

Quoting that post:
Examples (Of what Both these countries make):
india make ICBMs, China make ICBMs.
China make SLBMs, india make SLBMs
india make SSBNs (Boomers), China make SSBNs
China make ASTs (Anti Satellite Wepons), india make ASTs
india make Nukes, China make Nukes
China make Space Navigation system, india make IRNSS
india make Jets, China make jets
China makes Artillery, india makes Artillery.
india makes AESA, China makes AESA
india makes Aircraft Carrier, China makes Aircraft Carrier.

compton11:
what doubt?

Ask which one you have doubt? Mention just that one.

compton11:
China jet engine is on the way.

most of the weapons u mentioned below are manufacturing with the help of Russian scientists and I'm not debating about China with u but India