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gregyboy:
Thanking a lieing machine

gregyboy:
Thanking a lieing machine

What is wrong with this ekpa?

TAO11:
Ilorin had Baales not Oba’s.

All experts whose professional careers are made from African & Yoruba history have submitted that Oduduwa is not from Sudan, etc.

Thanks for the response

TAO11:
I’ve checked it out to some point.

He is missing some truth with some falsehood and deception.

I think his move is politically motivated.

On the overall - Ilorin is a Yoruba territory of Oyo-Ile; and Oduduwa is not from no Sudan.

I know that he's mixing truth with lies because he's trying to argue against having Ọba in Ilorin, for a truth there was never an Ọba in Ilorin but the Hadandawa actually sound plausible. Maybe we've not been looking at it from that point of view

TAO11:
Going forward always resist being deceived by cheap frauds.

A Benin person has no capability for truth even if s(he) tries hard. And the OP is a Benin boy.

Read the facts below as copied from my comment on another thread: https://www.nairaland.com/6409169/what-does-ukoruama-lagos-mean#100295968

I have discussed this at length in one of my comments on Lagos history while citing the relevant early accounts.

The earliest relevant available sources all point to the fact that the name Èkó is purely of Yoruba origin, from the word Eréko — also called Ìgbèríko.

Eréko is the Yoruba term for a settlement which is used mainly for agriculture, and under the ownership/control of another (neighboring) settlement.

The background to the name Èkó (contraction of Eréko) based on the earliest received traditions of Lagos history is that this has been the island’s name even before it was populated.

The island of Èkó and the adjacent islands (of Ìddó, et al.), as well as all the surrounding lands are — noted in the traditions — to be the aboriginal property of the Awori sub-group of the Yoruba ethnic group.

While they built town settlements on these lands all the way from Ìṣẹri to Ìddó island and elsewhere; the Awori kingdom of Ọ̀ttọ̀/Ìddó reserved the adjacent island (i.e. Èkó) for agricultural purposes — pepper farming and fishing to be precise.

As such, this adjacent island became an erèko of the Awori kingdom of Ọ̀ttọ̀/Ìddó. The name Èkó (viz. Erèko) therefore resulted from the initial purpose for which this adjacent island was originally set aside.

A certain Awori prince (from Ìddó) by the name Arómirẹ́ is said, in the accounts of Lagos history, to have been responsible for pioneering the usage of this island for agriculture purposes.

One of the several names by which this island is known till date comes from the personal name of this Awori prince (viz. Chief Arómirẹ́) due to his pioneering feat.

Besides the names Ereko and Eko by which this island is remembered till date, it is also still remembered by the name Èkó-Arómirẹ́ (from: Eréko-Arómirẹ́, i.e. Arómirẹ́’s agro-colony).

This island is also sometimes called Eko-Arómisá. The word Arómi-sá (lit: ‘the one who flees on sighting water’) is a wordplay (or pun) on the actual name Arómi-rẹ́ (lit: ‘the one who is in friendly tune with water on sighting it).

The seemingly strange name Korame or Kuramo which is often found in early European accounts of Lagos is not strange at all.

It is no more than the typical early Europeans’ sloppy rendering of the name Èkó-Arómi-rẹ́ — which is an early name of this island.

Lagos island is still alternatively known locally till date as Èkó-Arómi-rẹ́.

Also, the name Eréko also still survives till date on the island. It is well known and unhidden.

In the light of the foregoing accounts of Lagos history, it is only expected that one or more of all these Yoruba names of this island (i.e. “Ereko,” “Eko,” “Eko-Aromi-re,” etc.) would have naturally found its way into the lexicon of the Ijaws, the Binis, etc. — since each of these group had settled on this very island at some later point.

Don’t be bothered or persuaded by the propaganda of the ‘lesser tribes of Nigeria’. Yoruba is their dream and standard. Deep down, they actually want to be nothing but Yoruba.

Cheers!

PS:
Korame/Kurame did not flow from Benin to Lagos as he is fraudulently pretending.

We know this because of the two following facts:

(1) The Portuguese documented this name w.r.t. the Lagos lagoon when they visited the Lagos region in the late 1400s.

(2) The Binis didn’t have any connection with Lagos until approximately one hundred years later — mid/late 1500s.

(3) The name ‘Korame’ was therefore known in Lagos as at the 1400s — and the Portuguese records of it is older than its Benin usage.

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Hello tao11
Even though this is not related to the topic but I want you to check this out and make comment on it. I think it is making some sense


https://www.facebook.com/1887935548097036/posts/2884850175072230/?sfnsn=scwspmo&d=n&vh=e

BaeMercy:
FTC for the first time

I wish them a lovely home
Happy married life in advance


Admins please remove that no God but Allah thing on my profile
I'm not a Muslim

Why you sef go do aproko for Muslim thread? You don go take shahada like all the nairaland donkeys

othermen:
Pastor Chris is very interesting. And his courage against reason is remarkable! Interestingly, that is the definition of faith.

Definition ko definitive ni

Did the idiot use car? Can't he use faith like Elijah that overran the chariot of Ahab? He's very stupid and you're foolish too to have followed his deluded way. The mad man is using internet can't he send the word on his mouth through the spirit? Àwọn werey gbogbo

franchasng:
Why can't Yorubas throw their full weight behind credible men like Akinwunni Adesina of AfDB, Osinbajo and others like them


Why must it be a known corrupt crook that Yorubas love to support, why

Because you're mad

MASTAkiLLAh:
Not vandals, just editors stating the fact of his true age

You must be one of the editors, so how many times did you change his age on wiki?

anataala:
Is an indication of their occultism

Idiot

oilPUSSY:
"Yorubas are very united"

Moreover they should change that flag as soon as possible because I don't understand the meaning of human skull inscription on it

Where did you see human skull? That's òrí olókùn the bronze cast of one of the historical figures in Ifẹ

DarkJeddi:
No..

Like she sang on this one..

When it is Igbo..

She remembers to name and shame..

When the pertrators are closer to home..

She forgets to name and shame as they are Nigerians..

So Gawat is now Abike?

DarkJeddi:
Lol..
Tell that to Madam Abike Dabiri..
Let her tell us her tribe..
Oh..
I forgot that she has selective amnesia..

Like she tell you about these ones?

DarkJeddi:
As them call am Nigerian,I know say she no be Igbo..
To say na Igbo una for done mention her Grandmother's Town and where her Grandfather came from..

You missed everything because hate has blinded your mind

Starzo:
I don't make conclusions based on emotions or sentiments. I'm more of a logical thinker.

Continue with ur tantrum throwing like a hormonal teenage girl

There's nothing logical about the silly conclusion you reached earlier

Starzo:
na lie... there's more to this story
police no fit just arrest you then give u 20yrs imprisonment if something nor really play for background

You should read this

https://www.nairaland.com/6460495/justiceforitunu-itunu-babalola-illegally-jailed

BUSHHUNTER:
The difference is clear, while others named the roads on merit and achievement of those leaders... instead bubu named a road after his fulani cousin.

What is the achievement of Sagolo?

ClassicMan202:
Yes, there is crisis.... Aqua man and his wicked uncle are fighting for the throne

bishop4life:
It's so painful Nigerian Police can not make use of fingerprint technology not to talk of using other advanced techs.


By the way, that Nigeria has no database is intentional.
They intentionally kept us at analog stage to keep no traces to their loots and lies.






I am neither your mate, type or kind.
FYI, I got my national ID during obj regime.
Lost it in 2017 and got re-registered in less than a week . Don't take everyone for your mate because you were able to buy a semi smart phone.

Drop that silly idea about age you're not making any sense with it. How could you stay on this faceless forum and throw baseless words out like a trash bag? Do you know my age? Have you seen or met with me before? Are you my parent? Mtchewwwwww
You lied when you claimed that you were registered with national ID during obj time lost it and re-registered within a week lol what a joke? You must be thinking everyone you meet online are some of your 2 years old toddler that you can tell silly lies.
National ID during obj time has been discarded long ago lol. This new one I have my original ID FYI
Next time you will have to reply an issue not attack personality.

bishop4life:
were you expecting me to be watching Nollywood ant NTA?
If I were the police, I will not arrest any bandit knowing well that he will repent, get freed and come back for me.
if I were the police , I will not arrest any politician knowing fully well that the same people I am protecting will murder me in my sleep , just because they were given garri and other stomach infrastructures.
To some extent, I can't blame some junior officers.

Assumption is the lowest level of intelligence
You just assume that one's police arrest criminals in Nigeria they will be freed or the police officers will get murdered because they arrest criminal. You need some lessons honestly. After you'll claimed that you are a Methusella on the thread balderdash!

bishop4life:
It's so painful Nigerian Police can not make use of fingerprint technology not to talk of using other advanced techs.


By the way, that Nigeria has no database is intentional.
They intentionally kept us at analog stage to keep no traces to their loots and lies.

But when they asked you to go and register NIN you dey mourn

MikeMicheal:
Dont just mistakenly come to my station to report it ooo, because it is you I will arrest for tempting the innocent girl manipulatively, by letting her know your pin.
It is obvious you have a hidden wicked plan.

If not, why will you reveal your atm pin to someone else, after all the warnings from your bank?

FOR HER TO SAY IT IS PAY BACK FOR GOOD TIMES, THAT MEANS YOU MUST HAVE BEEN RAPING HER.


YOU SHOULD BE ARRESTED!

Are you really mad or is it just the expired umunede weed?

Peterobi90:
Its one thing being black, it's another being a black and Nigerian..

We need to change the narrative, but how can we when your country is not any better.

OH you're a white Nigerian

Grace001:
Prophet I no blame you jare you can’t wait for clients to come for the water as you never get your own business center

You deceived to take the water to potential clients in the street of Lagos pending when you will secure a business center.

The hustling is tough.

His own anointing water price is cheap compare to TB Joshua anointing water of 5k naira

One had anointing pool in Abuja for 50k

Dartilo:
Dis is not a battle for supremacy and to gain knowledge about history..
Personally i blv d ijaw nations came out due to franchise...
I mean dat diff ethnic group of diff migration theory combining as one...
Someone clearly stated dat u cant tell d history of ijaw correctly if u dont mention BENIN...


D simple truth BENIN was an empire dat experience several wave of migration at diff times due to d actions of d diff emperors..
Dis explain d urohobo, isoko,itsekiri partly,esan,akoko,afemai,ikwerre and eppie attissa is not an exception...

D yorubas today bcame a big ethnic group due to merger of ethnic nationality dat claim same ancestry, 150yrs back dere was nttin like yoruba,it was oyo,illesha,ijebu,owo,ekiti on their own...

Now imagine if all dis ethnic group who claim to migrate from benin decides to come together won't it b wonderful...

Pls no insult...

On the Yorùbá you are completely wrong

TAO11:
Liar! No where does the above 1948 video documentary say that the Ooni of Ife is not a king but a priest.

You’re just simply being yourself — a fugly liar!!

Rather, the video states at timestamp 0:14 and I quote here below:

“The Ooni of Ife, spiritual leader of over three million Nigerian tribesmen, was one of the important arrivals”.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=989866004541431

And that is accurate because all Yoruba kings (that is, including the Benin monarch) are considered in, Yoruba religious belief, to be demi-deities — ikeji-õṣà.

Since the Ooni of Ife is the leader of all the monarchs of Yorubaland, this fact thus rightfully makes him the spiritual leader of all Yorubas (and Binis).

Notice that this 1948 meeting which held in Lancaster house and entitled “The African Conference in London” had the Ooni of Ife representing Nigeria in his capacity as leader of the south-west ‘tribes’ — which included the Binis among others.

This leader of the then south-west ‘tribes’ was not deemed to be the Alaafin Oyo, nor was it deemed to be the Omonoba n’Edo, but rather the Ooni Ife.

Note that he wasn’t yet honored as a British knight at the time. Neither was he yet a Governor at the time. He simply represented Nigeria in his capacity as a tribe leader — a tribe which included the Binis.


In addition to the above 1948 documentary, the attached pages below are from a 1903 publication entitled “Native Crowns”.

These attached pages from the paper shows the published summary of a proceeding in which the Ooni of Ife was clearly and rightfully identified as the leading monarch for all of Yorubaland.

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~ The Editor, “Native Crowns,” Journal of the Royal African Society, April 1903, Vol. 2, No. 7, Oxford University Press.

I am pleased to always rubbish you all over Nairaland.

Cheers!

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You should put all these your explanations in writing, I mean you should write a book on these

ekene101:
zombie,we know ur type,una no dey ever gree say hot water dey kill tortoise. na ur type dey use ruler measure yam cut give ur wife cook becos na I too know dey kill una,carry ur Jehovah witness trouser and shirt comot from my mention. to kill u take do Yahoo no go hard ritualist becos na ur type no dey believe say voodoo na scam with ur native face..

Native goat

ekene101:
matter wey cast follow everywhere,even on this nairaland,Even made front page..oga are you in this country at all,stop arguing what you don't know thereby making yourself look foolish.a simple google search would have given you answers, videos were uploaded on facebook.ask any Benin person you know and stop this insane argument. I am one person who hate such stuffs but I won't deny something that actually happened. if you are not in Rome then stop arguing with Romans.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/03/curse-bini-italy-based-human-trafficker-dies-2-robbers-die-sleep/


if u need more links then let me know..
so may Dumbo's on the net trying to be smart but yet look stupid.what pains me most is the confidence they have showcasing their stupidity, is out of this world.smh..

Ekpa! This dumbo journalism is the best way to confirm the efficacy of Ọba curse
They even have to add two robbers to the story lol anyway wetin Ekpa no go believe?

Etinosa1234:
At least we don't hear much abt them unlike b4 that it was prevalent

Because I did not hear then it is not happening lol
Wehdone

ekene101:
when last did you hear about anybody crossing Mediterranean Sea or any video of girls lamenting about paying huge debts to madam that brought them into Europe?
Many Madam's forfeited the money girls were to pay them when traffickers started dying mysteriously,which usually starts with vomiting of blood all of a sudden. bro I put it to you that nobody will help you traffick any lady through the airport not to talk of land in Edo state.

Wehdone sir!

When did you hear about the trafficker vomiting blood?

MickzyDonald:
My gee, which side

Iporo Sodeke, yours?

ekene101:
Are you aware that a late past oba conjure fire with his hands and threw it on a tree and the tree burnt down?
Are you also aware that the present oba placed a curse on traffickers,who specialize in trafficking Edo citizens abroad for the wrong purpose after forcing them to take oaths in order to pay back millions and traffickers started dying both home and abroad till trafficking was reduced to a minimum?
Do you know there was a time oba market was on fire and hoodlums used the opportunity to loot traders wares and the issue got to the late oba,he made an announcement that he will be stepping out the next day on bare foot to walk the length and breadth of the market,who ever looted anything as small as a pin will face the consequences and truly almost everything looted were returned that same day while the stubborn ones actually payed for what they priced ignorantly with the mindset that oba's power are just myth?.. I could go on and on because it's not every oba or king one toys with. even some chiefs are not permitted to see the oba talkless of sitting among his councils, likewise it's not every seat in there(throne not included,just normal seats) a stranger or even an indigene or some categories of chiefs can sit on in the palace?
Do you know almost all the guards working in there have never set their eyes on ring road even though the palace is just less than a stone throw from there and are virgins till the end of their service? I can still go on..
Do you know there was a time an old witch got toasted and roasted in the air like roasted chicken just for flying over the palace of the oba,the witch didn't have business there but was toasted just for flying over it.
Do you know it took more than the mouth could mention before the palace walls were demolished at a particular section just for expansion of ring road to be constructed during oshiomhole's tenure as governor,and rebuilt. Go ask any Benin person,e go clear ur doubt. I dare you to go touch the cloth of that young man oba places his hands on and not oba himself and see if you will see the fowl or goat your family will slaughter for Xmas.

After placing the curse the trafficker stopped right?

MickzyDonald:
Bro I'm very confident,if i bring tons of them from Abk,i mean the ones that are fully soaked with power,infact your king will run comot palace sef

But why Abk nao? Don't spoil my Abk o

absoluteSuccess:
Do you see how long it's taking that Igbo guy to do his braggadocio? He's nursing the open wound: "conscience is an open wound, only the truth can heal it". Uthman Dan Fodio.

He's yet to find his confidence again. Imagine a man who can tell us I'm interpreting Yoruba word ateworo in my book from "nairaland level of knowledge":

1. He can tell us how grounded Yoruba is in Niger Congo, from low tone, ambiguous etc.

2. He knows the fact of how consonants evolved from proto-language and speak nothing but the fact. But this one beats him.

3. Our guy couldn't figure out how "ro" evolved from Niger Congo linguistic family to validate his claim. So he resorted to Google.

Google redirected to kid Primer...

"And rọ
Simple... Like Òjò n rọ
Láti Ọ̀run ni Oodua rọ wa"

Can you imagine a great teacher who disdain toddler interpretation putting this across as his "simpleton" validation of historical fact?

Consider how short and simple the fact was with the load of junks, and he called others ranter. Oh no, that guy is incredible.

So if Lati orun ni Oodua ro wa, this idea juxtaposed with Elarowa would mean?

Lati Orun ni Ela ro wa... so does this also means Ela came on the same chain as Oduduwa?

Yoruba Primer

Obo oba, obe baba, obe baba ja Saba baba alata, a o ba baba mu Bata a o ba mu.

Ode nfa ofa, o fa, Ofa fo, o fo Ife oba, Ife oba fo, a o ba baba be oba, a o ba be.

As a toddler, I hated the last part, why should I be part of the people to beg the king.

Macof, what's the name of the book that this was taken from?

Alawiye by JF Odunjo