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i am simply stating a fact. . . Though i am not expecting any favours from yall. In fact, i predicted United will win by 3 goals

Some of the comments here must have been made by lunatics.

Drogba is easily the most overrated striker on earth as we speak and people are chatting gibberish. If Drogba ever dares to lace Etoo's training boots, he should be beheaded with a blunt screw-driver!

Torres is simply the best striker on earth!
Vidic must be quaking in his boots

A40
that Ronaldinho has better stamina than Zidane doesnt mean he is a race-horse. That a 5'5 man is taller than a 5'4 man doesnt exactly make him tall, now does it?

Who in his right mind would ask for 'proof' that Dinho passes the ball better than Ronaldo? I mean, are you phucking kiddin me? Cos if ur not, that statement puts ur credibility in serious jeopardy. Soon you would ask me for proof that Ibrahimovic has better technique than Drogba. . . Oh wait, u just said Ronaldo is a better player than Ronaldinho. . . One shocking statement after another, its amazing.

Ronaldinho murders Zidane in terms of ability, efficiency & statistics, so he is clearly the better player(can you name any player that is superior to another in those areas and isnt better? I didnt think so).
Ronaldinho also murders Ronaldo in terms of ability and efficiency(overall contribution to his team). Statistically, Ronaldo has the edge(thanks in large part to one virtuoso season). Overall Ronaldinho is the better player.

But why do i even bother replying, when you would just come back and say "can you prove Ronaldinho is quicker than Zidane?". . . I give up.

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Heavy Rain is turning out to be an innovative, but ultimately average game!

A40
oh, so you dont see stamina as an important asset in football, but u are telling us Ronaldo is "fitter" than Dinho. You deserve a medal.
Ronaldo would subject his immediate and extended family to Hatian voodoo to possess half of Ronaldinho's abilities. The only things he has over Dinho are his aerial ability and pace(which are both unsurprisingly PHYSICAL attributes). He gets owned BIG TIME in virtually every other department:
Technique - nowhere near Dinho
Passing - nowhere near Dinho
Dribbling - Nowhere near Dinho
Crossing - nowhere near Dinho
First Touch/Ball Control - nowhere near Dinho

It is an insult of titanic proportions to compare Ronaldo's ability to Ronaldinho's. . . Such blasphemy should warrant a 1 year ban.
You are basically saying Ronaldo is better than Dinho in terms of ability, statistics and versatility, and is therefore the better player. . . Shocking!

P.S. I dont see what Ronaldo has to do with the topic(Zidane being a bald overrated Algerian inferior to Ronaldinho)

Ibime
how did i contradict myself? I judge players primarily on ability & efficiency(which is usually reflected in statistics). Thats not to say efficiency=statistics, a player's efficiency isnt always reflected in his stats i.e Iniesta, and vice versa i.e Lampard, whose stats define the word "misleading".
Gerrard's ability murders Lampard's, and they are equally efficient. Overall, Gerrard shytes on Lampard with relative ease.

A40
while Messi and Ronaldo's stats are probably as good as Dinho's, Dinho slaughters Messi and Ronaldo combined in terms of ABILITY.
Although Zidane played slightly deeper, Ronnie played WIDE and Zidane played central. Last time i checked, goals are scored from the middle of the park.
Of course, a player who scores 25 times from 100 shots is more efficient than a player who scored 12 times from 40 shots, as long as they played the same number of minutes. There is a BIG difference between shot conversion ratio and efficiency.

And A40 has the audacity to tell us pace isnt relevant for an attacking midfielder. . . His reason: there are good attacking midfielders that didnt have it. Should i begin to list the names of world class strikers that lacked strength? Maybe strength is useless for a striker. . . you are unbelievable!

Soon A40 would tell us passing, dribbling, shooting, etc are irrelevant in football. . . SATAN WEPT!

A40
ur arguments are ridiculous. You cant just single out one ability and say 'if we judge players on that ability, then player x is better than player y'. What about the other abilities? Obviously it would be daft to conclude Lampard is better than Xavi based on ONE ABILITY(shooting) when Xavi does many other things better than Lampard. Do you now see how absurd your logic is?
Even more absurd is giving examples of players who didnt have pace and saying it didnt stop them from being great. Tell me, if any of them had pace, wouldnt it have made them even better players than they were/are?

Ronaldinho is more efficient than Zidane. Efficiency and Statistics walk hand in hand, and Ronaldinho's stats obliterate Zidane's. Zidane only managed 12 goals ONCE in his entire career, that is very POOR for an attacking midfielder who is supposed to be the best thing since mobile phones, no matter how you twist it. Even a washed up Ronnie has managed 12 goals already this season in just 27 games(it took Zidane 49 games to do same). In fact, in Ronaldinho's worst season(06/07) in his prime, he still scored 25 times. . . Zidane would have sacrificed his first son to appease the gods if he ever managed that.

So for the last time, if one player completely destroys another in terms of ability, efficiency/statistics, and versatility, what is the basis for comparison? Oh i forgot, the latter played well in two finals. I laugh in Na'vi.

A40
so basically, youre saying every ability of Ronnie's that is superior to Zidane's is not important for his position? Shooting isnt important for an attacking midfielder? Stamina isnt important in footie? Pace isnt important in football, and playmakers dont have it? You are having a laugh.
How can anyone compare Zidane's free kicks to Dinho's? That is ABOMINABLE!
In terms of ABILITY, Ronaldinho is without doubt the most gifted player of all time BAR NONE. If you want to compare him to another player, compare his EFFICIENCY. Unfortunately for Zidane, he dies a painful death in that department as well.

Kosovo
as usual, you are still not making any sense. How do you know 3 discs are sufficient for making it look as good as the ps3 version. Are you the lead programmer of the game? If 3 discs do the trick, why is the audio compressed? What point are you trying to make? That FF "isnt possible on the 360" as well? You must be having a laugh.
My friend, go and read a book!

Kosovo
the only thing FF13 tells us is that BDs have larger capacity than DVD DLs(like we didnt know already?) and u are ranting like an intoxicated megalomaniac. If i start listing the number of 360 games that obliterate the ps3 version, this server would crash.
Of course you believe any piece of rubbish you read, as long as its pro-PS. If Sony tell you ps3s reduce global warming, you'd believe them. Are you not the same gorilla that said the ps3's processor is better than an Intel Core i7?
If you think the ps3 is anywhere near twice as powerful as the 360, you obviously need medical attention.

A-40
i have already given analysis of how Ronaldinho's ability annihilates Zidane's on this thread. . . The only of Zidane's abilities that are at par with(not necessarily better) than Ronnie's are technique, first touch/ball control, and GROUND passes. Dinho murders Zidane in just about everything else from LOFTED passes to crossing, free kicks, penalties, dribbling/trickery, shooting/finishing, pace/acceleration, stamina, agility, name it.
Statistically he also blows Zidane out of the phucking water so what is the basis for comparison? That Zidane played well in two finals? I laugh in 666.
Ronaldinho's problems at PSG were more off-field than on. He did very well for the most part, if not(like u & Eastbay validated Zidane's performances at Juve with his transfer fee) Barca wouldnt have paid over €32m for him.
Lets also not forget he was like 20/21 then. i believe this debate is about their prime years.
Zidane is only better than Ronaldinho in the papers and on the internet. on the field, Dinho shytes on him and doesnt wipe his a$$.

Semid
oh, so you want me to provide links to all reviews/opinions about season 8 on the internet so you can calculate the percentage that say its the worst? Were you born an idi0t?
The figure(90%) was obviously an estimate from what i've heard/read, if you felt otherwise then you have the intellectual capacity of a severed pappus.

If you feel season 3 is one of the better ones, its obvious you are the one with distorted taste.

You must be a 5 star mor0n for thinking i was bragging about watching it before you. If you dont understand English dont speak in public.

"small boy sense". . . hahaha, this chap is a lost cause.

Kosovo
u are so clueless, i am crying you an ocean of pity.
So you believe GOW3 uses less than 50% of the ps3, and the 360 isnt powerful enough to run it. In other words, you are saying the ps3 is more than twice as powerful as the 360. . . You should be stoned to death!

Eastbay
Ronaldinho has been so poor for Brazil he's scored 32 times in 87 games. . . In fact, he was so "disastrous" at PSG Barca paid over €32 million for him. You have no idea what ur spittin, do you?

Ronaldinho murders Zidane in every criteria from ability to statistics and the whole lot, and no one has been able to challenge this. Instead all yall can come up with for Zidane is hand picked performances in big games. Even Darren Fletcher can boast of that.

to even say that its possible to run GOW on Xbox is a huge insult to Kratos. Try putting the disc in an Xbox, you can see Kratos ripping the Xbox from inside out. lol

the magnitude of your ignorance is immeasurable!

And since when did YOUR OPINION become MOST PEOPLE'S OPINION?

its not just my opinion, 90% of tv buffs the world over are in agreement Season 8 is the worst and should be the last.

See this one o. . .FYI, I started watching 24 in 2007 and I bought the Complete Season 1-4 Dvd's all at the same time. . .I started with Season one & after watching it for about an hour, I quickly got bored with the Jack & his wife getting back together, daughter sneaking out of the house & being kidnapped thingy and the overall slow pace and generally dull storyline of the whole Season 1, so I removed it, slotted in the Season 3 randomly and got hooked in the 1st hr

ironically, Season 3 is widely regarded as the 2nd worst season ever. you seem to have great taste for rubbish!

So tell me how is my opinion not relevant?

its LESS relevant because the impression Season 1 would have given you was destroyed when you decided to watch the 3rd season first. and you watched it at least 3 or 4 years late!

Season 1 didn't even become really interesting until it was well past half-way abi wetin u dey talk sef?
SEASON 8 with it's 11 episodes so far is more interesting & $h!ts on the whole of Season 1.

IN YOUR OPINION!!!

We are not judging 24 against other series or in relation to the time it was aired !

of course it has to be judged in relation to the time it was aired! its like telling me Casino Royale is better than Gold Finger. . . or wealthy men from back in the day(when a bottle of Coke was 1/2kobo) were wretched. 

and whether the concept was unique back then or not

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the fact that the concept was still fresh back then is one of the things that made Season 1 great. will you find the same joke as amusing the 8th time you hear it compared the first?

We are judging the different seasons against each other based on how interesting they were. Anyway, in YOUR OPINION, this is the worst season. In MY OPINION, Season 1 is the worst. . . .EOD

even if we go by your logic, Season 1 is still more "interesting" than Season 8 in MOST PEOPLE'S OPINION!

the fact you started watching from season 3 makes your opinion of season 1 much less relevant!!

[size=18pt]IT'S A FUKCING DISGRACE!!![/size]

I disagree. . .this is the 2nd worst season after season 1. Luckily for me, I started watching 24 with Season 3 and then I went back to watch season 1 and 2 before watching 4, 5, 6, 7 and now 8. If I had started with season 1, I doubt I would have continued with the other seasons.

are u kiddin me? a show can only be judged in relation to the time it was aired. when season 1 first started airing, the concept was still fresh, and it was nothing short of brilliant.

there is no doubt about it, this is BY FAR the worst season ever.

Rasputinn
it is not nice to make fun of Chelsea's history. . . Apologize!

This is officially the worst season ever. . . It better be the last.

RUBBISH!!

The fact that many people are saying Zidane is the best player ever just proves the initial point Jalether was trying to make: He is overrated. EOD.

Sauron
my top ten is too politically-incorrect to be made public!

Ibime
ur comment would have made sense. . . But unfortunately i school you 11 times out of 10.

Ibime
when i was telling you some months ago that Nasri should be playing in CM, you were chatting shyte, saying it would leave Arsenal too exposed. . . . . Now you have seen the light.

What Ritchboy can see on the ground, Ibime cannot see on the roof of a skyscraper.

^^^ words of a prophet! ^^^

Dayokanu
were you born an idiot? Do you expect me to give examples for everything i say? Why not ask me for examples of when he played wide forward for Barca, m0ron!

Omar
the topic is about Zidane and Ronaldinho, not Rivaldo. And Ronaldinho is clearly more versatile than Zidane, so i dont know what you're on about.

Ibime
go and pull it up, a quick search will help you find the thread. Am i not the one who told you not to write Walcott off for his poor technique cos virtually all English players are technically inept?

Gerrard has poor technique, but Lampard's technique is even poorer!
Gerrard is overrated, but Lampard is the most overrated player in the history of football BAR NONE!

Still yet, no one has presented any evidence that suggests Zidane is better than Ronaldinho. All i still see is a bunch of unsubstantiated gibberish based largely on media hype. The best you lot could come up with is: Zidane did better for his national team.
Why wont Zidane do better for his country when he was deployed in his natural/only position? Ronaldinho played the best football of his career as a wide forward for Barca, i dont think i've ever seen him play that role for Brazil. The poor lad was even used as a striker at a time, i'd like to see Zidand at center forward! Ronaldinho is a victim of his versatility, Zidane is a benefactor of his inability to play any other role, do the math. Its like Iniesta who never gets the chance to play centrally for Spain, then you tell me Melo is better than him for his country(Brazil), bollocks!!

Just to remind yall, Ronaldinho completely annihilates Zidane in terms of ability, consistency, versatility, efficiency/statistics. Until anyone can challenge any of that to be untrue, yall aint saying nuthing.

Hahahaha. Gerrard bashing aplenty!

Sauron
what have you and Ibime been telling me? That Gerrard has poor technique? Was that ever in doubt? Guess what, Lampard's technique is even worse. Lampard has also been woeful this season, the only difference is his team have done better = less scape goating/bashing. Replace Gerrard with Lampard in Liverpool and they will be below Portsmouth!!

This season just proves what people have been saying all along: Liverpool is a two-man team. Gerrard & Torres have been injured for a while. When Gerrard has been fit, he has been below par.
And that simply spells doom.

Sauron
they only entered the europa league recently. over the last two seasons, they have played so many monday night games. I also remember Rafa complaining when they used to play so many early(12:45) games on saturdays.
Have you forgotten "Super Sundays"? When the big four just happened to play each other on the same day.
And they expect us to believe it is all sorted by the fixture computer, pssfch!

Sauron
Denilson has more ability than Dinho? your definition of 'ability' is obviously flawed. Denilson's step overs(dribbling), is ONE ability, when you consider other abilities, he is nowhere near Dinho.
Ronaldinho is more efficient than Zidane. And he has the stats to prove it. It is not up for debate. Add that to his ability and Ronaldinho is clearly the better player.
I'm out.