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Ask am o , have all the trapped fpis of 2 years ago left ? Read somewhere airlines have 300m $ they can’t repatriate as of April , you have a huge differential between the official rate of 420 and blackmarket rate of 590 . Even the so called commodity of oil we can’t produce the normal 1.8/1.9m bpd , probably at 1.3m or less due to so many issues and theft , add subsidy , huge govt debt and maybe present political climate , people must be cautiously optimistic

UC92:
Well-done Oga.
Does the quality of CDK tiles equate to Spanish products?

I think there is that general acknowledgment .some say even better than some Spanish

Used Spanish for my first project , expecting much better with cdk

EgunMogaji2:
It’s an impressive structure. I can’t wait to see what you’ll do with the exterior.

Make I no talk too much ,but it will be the best looking commercial building on that stretch . Hope akala people are ready for something different

Cdk Tiling commences at akala

somehow:
For 1 billion naira in cash and not in landed properties, wait and see.

1billion naira looks cheap for nairaland , my opinion

EgunMogaji2:
I think my roads played a part in the delivery cost as I'm way deep in side Elebu and on horrible roads for those decrepit Mack trucks.

Same lamentation yesterday at New Garage saw mill.

Just approved 155k for granite and 62k for sand today . Still getting good deals then

topsy23:
Good morning sir, you can introduce something like this, it's called AMF PANEL(Automatic Mains Failure Panel) since your project is a factory and all machines must running 24hrs. This panel changes automatically whenever there is power failure(i.e No PHCN), it will send signal to generator to start immediately and also send signal when PHCN restore power.

Know it as ATS , automatic transfer switch

EgunMogaji2:
Eledumare

This is intense. But you bill the tenants for this abi?

Yes , The tenants pay all the service and power charge . Am also paying as a tenant

Greenarrow01:
That's over 25k per hour.
If gen runs for 10 hours per day
That's 250k per day
Right ?
Omo
You are trying sir

It is what it is , have a 1000kva that does about 200liters / hr in my factory presently

Greenarrow01:
Thank you very much sir. You have been very very helpful.

Pls last question.

Let's say you run your 165kva generator for 12 hours daily on full load.
How much fuel in litres will you consume per day (12 hours run time) or 6 hours.
Or better still
How many litres does it consume per hour on a full load.

it’s about 35 to 40 liters per hour on full load

Greenarrow01:
My questions are now going to be plenty.
I am very very sorry sir.
I am working on something that needs 247 power supply. Diesel gen should never exceed 5hours of usage daily. This is the only way I can make profit.
Now the place I am planning to
Power supply there is 15-18 hours daily. Which is still not okay enough. I might make money, but it won't be enough as diesel will eat into it.

Do you advice I change location or what?
Is the 33kva power those high tension wires or those normal highway wires that connect city to city.
Solar is not also an option.
I have an option of another place that can boost of 20hours of power daily.
But land there is expensive
I am thinking of going the leasing route

One more thing … if your making money in nigeria depends on having regular public power supply , you have your business strategy wrong
It should be I can make money with running alternate power supply and if public supply is regular , it’s a bonus . Never the other way round

Greenarrow01:
My questions are now going to be plenty.
I am very very sorry sir.
I am working on something that needs 247 power supply. Diesel gen should never exceed 5hours of usage daily. This is the only way I can make profit.
Now the place I am planning to
Power supply there is 15-18 hours daily. Which is still not okay enough. I might make money, but it won't be enough as diesel will eat into it.

Do you advice I change location or what?
Is the 33kva power those high tension wires or those normal highway wires that connect city to city.
Solar is not also an option.
I have an option of another place that can boost of 20hours of power daily.
But land there is expensive
I am thinking of going the leasing route

The ones entering cities I think is 132 Kva , the 33 is more regular than the 11kv , ask any nepa staff or whatever they are called now , if you can locate or get 33 , I will strongly advice it

Greenarrow01:
Boss good evening.
Pls I will like to ask you two questions and I really hope you are okay with my questions.

For your mini malls
Pls what size (KVA) of transformers do you use
And what is your estimated energy billing per month.

2.
What size of diesel gen(KVA) do you use as back up
What are their average run time per day and estimated cost of running this generators.

I really hope you will provide answers to these questions and they are not too private or trade secrets

Thanks.

Nah . Secret is not in transformer and generator sizes

Mall 1 , 200kva transformer . Lettable space about 1100 sqm , initially was suppose to be 110 and 165kva generator . A tenant had load requirement of 100kva so we have 165kva and 275kva there now. Operational

Mall 2 , 500kva transformer . Lettable space of about 3000sqm , 440kva , 275kva , 165kva . Not operational

Mall 3 . 200kva transformer . Lettable space about 1500sqm . 110 and 165kva . Tope just told me we will need upto 200kva based on his load calculation so I might upgrade , not opetatonal

With high diesel prices now , am looking at the possibility of connecting mall 2 and 3 to 33kva for more regular public supply . So I might buy new transformers

I have a facility manager managing mall 1. Contracted it out . Others will be the same . I have all tenants metered. So the bill the fm generates is dependent on the meter reading . It’s a function of public power supply received in the quater and diesel purchased .

A lot will depend on the load requirements of the tenants , not a one size fits all .Hope i helped small

topsy23:
He's not a contractor nor a builder

You get time tope

3strikes:
You can say that again. literally the price of everything has almost doubled.

Quick Question
- is it advisable to mold our own blocks? is that going to save us some money, I know with this approach, I can be rest assure of the quality...based on the mix ratio

[/b]- What are other suggestions on what to do to save cost on building materials? [b]

I am open to your suggestions and guidance

Thanks

3strikes!!!

Buy things in advance if possible . if you have the finance , space and security , as crazy as prices are now , will likely still go up . Thank me later

Best savings I have , came because of that , can’t even begin to mention the numbers . Mind blowing .

There is world wide inflation

kopell:
Wooo, are you serious. 60 blocks per bag of cement. The concrete blocks 9”
I ordered 28 per bag. Years back in different location back when. I did hands molding blocks for fencing 32 per bag for 9” when 35 per bag for 6”

Did about 35 to 37 I think .for 9 inch . Machine made , vibrated . With stone dust . Use 3x or other 42.5 variants for all my projects including block moulding

3strikes:
You can say that again. literally the price of everything has almost doubled.

Quick Question
- is it advisable to mold our own blocks? is that going to save us some money, I know with this approach, I can be rest assure of the quality...based on the mix ratio

- What are other suggestions on what to do to save cost on building materials?

I am open to your suggestions and guidance

Thanks

3strikes!!!

Did all my own blocks . Contracted it out . Basically the advice afroxzy gave

All the best with your build

Prices of granite , stone dust , sand has gone up by close to 50% , was just given some bills for payment approval . No be small thing

Maximum respect to people building and just starting new build

twinskenny:
A young chap is handling this project right here.. no story no drama.. we are on the last floor.. money well spent so far..

Nice . Love the no story , no drama . That’s how I roll .

After my first commercial project that the plumber , electrical person , steel Guy , Cctv , aluminium and others came separately apart from the builder , note that this guys dint do a quarter of some stories I read here , some of them were mad no doubt but I dint have energy for the constant liaising and dealing with issues With many of them


I learnt going forward to give one person mep , Cctv etc and the builder does his thing . While the builder and architect jointly helps supervises the aluminium guys and other works , also employed a full time project supervisor. Some of the contractors from the first project don beg tire . I don’t do stress , life is too short

Born2conquer:
Haha, this is abeokuta and most people are civil servants, go to work in the morning and come back to their various houses in the evening.

The prime property is on the main road to one of the top 10 Universities in Nigeria (1min drive to the school gate), hottest cake.

Quality of people: Students that can buy anything since they're dependent

Will pass for now . thanks

Born2conquer:
I have one hotter than those, situated in a main place with at least 10,000 people traffic per day

What area ? Area and quality of people is key for me

Oshodi might be 500k people par day .Wont be what I need . Will reach out by mail later

Born2conquer:
If you're interested in strategic lands in abeokuta, kindly hit me up.

I have some lands in strategic places I will like to dispose of, several lands maintenance, and frequent checkups on each of them don dey choke me.

Just kindly send a mail.

It is not compulsory and I am not desperate but I am sure this is gonna be a steal for whosoever grab this

Any commercial land amongst them , Cased abeokuta some months back . Oke ilewo or abiola way around opl ?

KolaShangOne:
Oga Kenny.. Egbeda is far oo.. we can do Ola Mummy by evening..

Well done on the project..

Which of them , if na bodija am game . I go dey mall for that axis later today

sonnie10:
Why do people boycott products from sweatshops?

You have been acting sanctimoniously , we all have conscience . I tell you most sincerely and with all humility that I do not think you pay half of what I pay for all my constructions, and I am talking labour charges . I use one of the foremost engineers in my location , that same Person / organization construct for a tier one bank and various state govt including private residences of state chief executives and I hope you know there are just five tier one banks
, fugaz

The size and scale of my various constructions should give you an idea of what I can do and afford

I cannot extrapolate my situations and make it mandatory for everybody Else under the guise of conscience and what I can afford , there is an economic side to things , we have different pocket sizes , resources and value . Those tiling alone are done for 1000/ sqm , I can easily get the norm of 400 to 600, there is a lady that post here I could have gone with but I dint and e get why though she was much cheaper , topsy is handling one of the projects , that I can afford to engage him says a lot , the other engineer doing the electrical of the other project is the same guy doing all jara projects

When some of us don’t talk , it’s because we know there are different levels to this wealth thingy and how do we even begin to show off when you see bigger things others are accomplishing and the potentials ahead . I do not engage in online fight or drama , I have enough drama in real life running my various businesses and enterprise , i Channel my energy to my executions

There was another guy yapping earlier today that quoted me . Am 100% sure he has not done ANY project that pays as much as mine . I Just let it slide , I no get energy for non productive engagement

Everybody should do what makes them happy , is reasonable and they can afford legally

KolaShangOne:
If you bought at 8600 per sqm, that will be 12,380 per carton.. That's more expensive than I got it yesterday..

CDK used to sell for 3500 sef just over 2 years ago.. inflation is killing..

When you have excess left from your buffer, we kobo kobo people can come pack it at discounted rate..

Tor till then

Quality might be different , use r11 enhanced for high traffic area, , the ones available in the market is the normal one r8 , ask your seller

FEGEITOK:
Political office holders?

Political contractors?

Yap . Nigerian politicians are the only exception

Ndyoo:
I love this job. You mind sharing the contact?

They Came thru the builder . Don’t have it but could always get it

sonnie10:
My conscience pricks when I pay $50 to mowe my lawn just once which they do in less than 20mins and pay equivalent amount to have a laborer work for 10days on my site in Nigeria at 2500 Naira pay day.

It is just what makes me human. Conscience.

You can pay what your conscience dictates

But Simple economics is the reason . Don’t ever compare wages in a 20 plus trillion economy to one of about 400 billion . It’s for that same reason every job in the usa or much of the west pays multiple times better than same category of jobs in nija , maybe 20 to 30 times

I see a lot of people display this ignorance , including professionals when they start comparing there wages to counterparts in the west

How do you compare wages in an economy of 60k dollars gdp par Capita to that of nigeria at 2k dollars , even china wages are much lower than usa

A cleaner in the usa will earn more , same with teacher , police and every other job ,
There is only one abnormally in nija to this rule for obvious reasons . I leave people to guess

EgunMogaji2:
Your tiler is a wizard. I just love this space.

Nah Togo / benin people , they use spacer

KolaShangOne:
I've missed about 10 - 12 pages here already..

Oga @rmx

Bought CDK today for 12,000 per carton..

Bought it in January for 9800 per carton.

No be small thing , just bought buffer of about 1500sqm last month at about 8600/sqm . At least I know who to contact if any is left

Had to go back to check the ones I bought September , was 6500

Started laying it

EgunMogaji2:
In Banana Island.

There’s something patently wrong with most Nigerian artisans.

Na so . Used the new marriot in lagos a few times , impressive yet am always looking for where Nigerian artisans will manifest , seen a few in the rooms , things above like paint smudges on sockets , mirror , but the one wey vex me pass is they cut the tiles bigger to install the sensor that flushes the urinary for men when you step away . In the meeting/ semina rooms at the basement, Was awful . Kept thinking they suppose give the person serious bla la , this is in spite of the foreigners and professionals that must have supervised them

But seriously some of this things show our flaws as a people , shortcut is a way of life with us , hurry , hurry and shoddiness

We need to go back to technical training and colleges , it’s seriously lacking

It’s only in nigeria someone becomes an okada driver in one week , start laying tiles in one week , no sufficient training or apprenticeship