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cold:
Sorry guys i'v bin rilly bizy lately but when i do kom bak (on this thread that is)it's goin to b xplosive,i promise.I don't believ in half measures neither will i leave any room for doubt on the egregious i[b]nconsistencies of Catholicsm.

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Why postponing your "explosive" post on ills of Catholicism? We will take on you and reply you line by line. The game is up for jesters and imposters, fanatics and lunatics and folks who think that they have the monopoly of bashing others!
We are waiting for you. Don't keep us in the [b]cold f[/b]or a long time as you are keeping yourself!

I will be happy if you will walk hard and make your own money than waiting for tranfer from another person

Thank God for your boss who saved you from a big bashing! Bet me, your so called expose will be nothing new. We have seen and heard it all

Salt of the earth supposed to be my uniqueness
But unknown to all I have since lost my saltiness.

I have many versions of the Holy Word,
But Cannot shine as a light in a dark world!

Love is the greatest and the first commandment,
But to say I am an agent of hatred is an understatement.

Poisoned and hurting words always came out of my mouth,
And unforgiveness flood my soul like the river in the south!

I attend retreats, crusades and special seminars,
As a show off that I can pay for these seminars!

I hardly practice what I preach,
Nor obey what others to me teach!

Help me somebody for I am born again but twice dead,
And I pray that God will not uproot me as a dead weed!

I respect Pastor Kumuyi too but his leadership style in theology is called messianic complex. He believes that he is the all in all in Deeper life. Only him preaches and writes to all his branches all over the world since 1974. A success without a successor is a big failure. Name any other Pastor that Kumiyi had mentored to take over from him.

As for Pastor Ohanebo, he is one of the the most crafty unintelligent Pastors in Nigeria. He broke away from a group in Catholic Church called CATHOLIC CHARISMATIC RENEWAL. He added WATCHMAN to his own ministry to cause confusion and to steal members. Well, Laz Mouka had broken away from him and adds Lord Choosen to the same Charismatic Renewal.

I respect any person that says he or she is a servant of God but only God knows His true servants!

Is it with your less than N10,000 a month allowance that you are looking for a Lagos babe? My dear, think twice and face your service and plan your life with a focus! If you are bored at weekends, read a novel, attend a christian activity or just sleep.

H-O-L-Y W-A-R! Christ Chosen head drags Pastor Mouka to EFCC
Posted To The Web: Thursday, December 27, 2007 - By EBOMHIANA MUSA


What seems a holy war is gradually brewing between two revered men of God, who oversee some of the biggest and crowd pulling new generation churches in the city of Lagos.

The feud which has the trappings of battle of the titans is between the General Overseer of Lord Chosen Charismatic Revival Ministry, Pastor Lazarus Muoka and the trendy and charismatic overseer of Christ Chosen Generation Revival Ministry, Pastor Eze Nnamdi Ofoegbu.

Twice, Ofoegbu had been “invited” to the office of the Assistant Inspector General of Police, Zone 2 Command Onikan over allegations of threats to the life of Muoka.

The first letter, dated November 29, 2006 and signed by one M. Adisa (DSP) on behalf of the Deputy Commissioner of Police (CID) while the other dated January 24, 2007 was signed by one Emmanuel Ogolo (SP) for the Assistant Inspector General of Police, Zone 2, Onikan. Ofoegbu was” required in the name of the president, Federal Republic of Nigeria to report to the zonal criminal and intelligence Bureau Office… to answer to allegations of threat to life by you against very important persons including the General overseer of the Lord Chosen Charismatic Revival Church.”

Ofoegbu has cried foul to all these, alleging that Muoka was after him using the police with trump-up charges simply because they parted ways sometime in September 2006. He broke away from Muoka’s church to establish his own in Festac, in response to the call of God.

Following the series of invitations from the police, Ofoegbu has picked the gauntlet and has written a two-page letter to Muoka dated December 7, 2007, titled” letter of notification/demand for refund.” Ofoegbu is demanding the sum of N317 million from his former pastor (Muoka) being what he sank into the church from inception up to the time they parted ways. He says it was an investment, based on an unwritten agreement between them. He has also taken his case to the EFCC.

“What I am asking for is the fulfillment of the agreement we both entered into, an investment into the work of God for which there will be profit and returns. We both agreed that I invest my life savings and that we are going to reap it many fold when the time comes. I believed him and I invested all that I had including the one that did not belong to me. When the time of harvest came he started finding faults with me to embarrass me and frustrate me out of the church.

A man invests with the hope of reaping, I started investing in this project since 2004. From that time till when I left I had invested over N300m, that expanse of land where the church is today and the fleet of luxury buses you see there are part of the investments, the planting of the church in Dubai, United Arab Emirate, Abidjan, Ikoyi and Ibadan are also part of the investments. These are aside the series of crusades we held across the country and beyond.”

Does a Christian or anybody, demand for a refund of what he has done for God? Hear Ofoegbu: “I am not asking for what I have given to the Lord, far from it. If you have given to the Lord, you have given to the Lord. What you give to the Lord are tithes, and offerings in different forms.
Nobody goes back to say I want my offering back or I want my tithes back, no. If you give these to the house of God, you have given to the Lord.”

“I only mention these because these are the areas. Where he said I should go ahead and put money and that the church was going to refund me. There are so many other areas like advertising in print and electronic media which I cannot really go into now. It got to a point when I had spent virtually what I had, in fact, it was like he hypnotized me, he cast a spell on me whereby I was pumping money into the church foolishly, now the scales have fallen off my eyes, I now realize my folly”.

In the letter to Muoka, Ofoegbu pointedly told him that” I wish to notify you that the spell is broken. I am awake to a realization that it was not normal and I hereby demand for a refund, especially for the repayment of the money of my partner from you and your organization.”

The raging Ofoegbu added that” I want the EFCC to intervene in this matter, infact, I have done a petition which I intend to forward to them next week because there are a lot of people these day who dupe and hypnotize innocent people in the name of God. The victims are mostly rich people in the society. I think, this should be checked.” All efforts to make Muoka react proved abortive; his aides were not ready to volunteer information when contacted on their cell phones.

eduezeyim:
Obina5000, let them say what they want to say "The Truth hurts".

I live in Festac Town with your founder, Pastor Laz Mouka whose convoy is longer than that of Lagos State Governor. When he rebelled and broke away from the highy delusional Watchmen Charismatics, he slamed the owner of
" WATCHMMAN" for being carnal in using jeeps and police escorts. Today he uses them. Last year crusade Mouka had at Onitsha, he landed with Helicopter! The God of Chosen he invokes can never be mocked and decieved! That is why God raised Pastor Everst Ofoegbu and Mouka's own brother in law to tell the world that greed is the god of chosen! The advert rags your folks wear to your shops and offices are sold to you between N500 and N1000. Zeal without knowledge and brain wahing can never produce your best Church in the world! Grow up in faith and serve God in truth and in Spirit!

m_nwankwo:
There is nothing like "highly learned members of the sect, Grail Movement". The answers to questions were drawn from each authors experience of the work "In The Light of Truth- The Grail Message". Besides, the answers were not meant for you. It was for those who are genuinely seeking for the Truth. Therefore, follow your own beliefs and leave the Grail Message alone.

I t is a big shame that a mind bending highly demented group like Grail MOVEMENT will be claiming knowledge of truth when the book "In light of Truth" have been proved to be a dark occultic book that picks from almost all religions! It is not for me as you said, but I will not leave GRAIL DERAIL message or lying messangers alone!

@ posters
From the responses of highly learned members of the sect , Grail movement, I have concluded that their message is indeed a grail , a drail or drain message!

@posters
Debating on the gay so-called church is a waste of time. Those guys want t eat their cake and have it but it is also a waste of time. GAY IS ANTI-NATURAL FAMILY, whic makes it anti-Church.

@ supersatn

superstan:
why is this so?
a boy of 28 dating a gir of 22 can also experience hell with her.

My dear, dating and having sex with someone the age of your mother or grand mother is both disgusting and a serious sign of mental illness especially when one is doing it because of money!

I really pity guys that greed and love for materials things motivated their lust for the so -called SUGAR MUMMIES. They are digging their graves because such women can go cruel extreme to deal with their SUGAR BOYS! A boy of 20 years dating a woman of 45 years needs a lot of prayers, pity and preparation for burial!