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Yeap there is a touch of spanish & arabic architecture - but clearly they've made their oil count. Nigeria has more oil than Algeria..but it shithole.

Jay254:
Men Algeria is so so beautiful, brace your selves for immigrants from Nigeria.

I am happy to learn. I must say those are incredible photos. To be honest - Nigeria with more oil than Nigeria - have done completely NOTHING. That makes the Arab more progressive than most of Sub-Sahara people. Nigeria has let us down.

Anyway let me enjoy the pictures.

Algerian1:
To much stupidities . dont talk about things you know nothing about ....

The cliché of arab in desert ans camals ? Seriously ? Its a bit racist . you will tell me that north affrican are arabs invaders to ? And you say there was nothing before oil was discover ? Do you know any thing about north african history ? , popuation ? civilisations before colonisation ? Man try to google history of north africa than come to discuss .

And to not derail this thread with of topic i will be happy to correct all your wrong info about north affrican in this thread about algeria : https://www.nairaland.com/4155711/welcome-algeria-pics

Precisely. The supra-sahara really ought to be ashamed to be competing with sub-sahara countries. Technically they are in Europe and their tourism figures would be so high if they weren't hobbled by Islam. The best of Algeria is in France including Sidane

Jonraid:
Imagine going on a ferry to Europe and vice-versa? No better geographical advantage than that if you want to develop quickly in tourism or in another sectors! That's why they are mostly left out in most 'African' rankings as they lie outside the Sub Saharan Africa!

Morrocco, Algeria, Egypt - sit literally next to Europe, have been part of modern world for ages - and yet if you remove natural resources from Algeria & Morocco - there is really nothing going on there. Arabs are perhaps some of laziest people you've got and really what mask their poverty is discovery of oil in 1950s that changed camel ridding primitives of middle east and north africa into modern countries - although most of work force still has to be imported world wide.

I think if Kenya was right up there next to Europe - it would definitely be better than Algeria. Remove Algeria Oil and the country essentially collapse...with 5M already in France!

Only Egypt seem to be only Arab country that has pulled itself by it's bootstraps.

Algerian1:
My point is. : instead of sharing hundreds of photos of hotels , the statistics on the number of tourists is better to compare ! And fact say nigeria and kenya are far behind coutries like morocco egypt tunisia south africa . so no need to show off on tourism and hotels .

Very much doubt this. Skycrapper is 100m tall building. According to this list whole of Nigeria has 9 skycrappers & 1 under construction. Kenya has 13...and further 7 under development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Africa

forgiveness:
Lagos still has more skyscraper than all Kenya has if put together.

I am not talking about the whole Nigeria where skyscraper is already in three cities while two cities are currently constructing one each.

Lol; This might actually be true. 70M generators.

Jonraid:
'My generator is bigger than yours,it's German made and can produce more power'

Such are the statements they brag about when they talk to each other!

TZ have been moving to Dodoma till now. The amount of infrastructure & investment required would be so daunting.Nigerians spend so many dollars to move it to Abuja and yet Lagos still is the place to be. And besides which county will people accept. Nairobi is just fine as our capital and financial center. Mombasa need to become our tourist, port and industrial city. Kisumu our lake port city. Nakuru has to find a niche and so does Eldoret.

mtisTheQubit:
i think we should at least shift the Seat of Government to another county.Nairobi is becaming too big in a way ..We should have a scenerio like New York an Washington D.C or johannesburg and Pretoria..

Which neighbors do we trail in family planning. Kenya is among-st the best achievers when it come to family planning. Very soon I think Uganda will overtake us population wise. Ethiopia are like 100M and still rising. Tanzania are 55M if I am not wrong. Our dependency ratio is dropping...it's around 60% now...and should drop to 40% or less by 2050.But yes we need to invest more in family planning in northern arid kenya - and that will be a long battle. The same battle we waged when average woman was getting 8 kids to now 3-4 kids.

Suffice to says these are battles that are waged for a long time...and whose fruits appears several years.

Jonraid:
We already trail our neighbours in employing family planning,well I wouldn't celebrate about this as it's a bit awkward but in a world of dwindling resources,a huge population might not be a good thing.We need to have a balance of things, population included.But the big four agenda(free healthcare for all) should bring this critical services to the Northern Kenyans.We need to lessen the dependency ratio,this is a factor that makes most developing countries get more poorer! It's a big concern!

I think maybe in a decade - right now we are down to 3-4 kids - we need to get down to 2 kids and stay there - this is where South Africa, Namibia and Botswanas are... In some regions like Central Kenya - they are already around there and should be starting to enjoy the demographic dividend - in the Northern Kenya there are having a baby boom - which is fine because those areas are really under populated.

Jonraid:
When are we going to reap that demographic dividend? I just don't want a country with more people who have nothing to do.I think the population growth will slow down a bit when we reach above 60 million.I just can't imagine an overpopulated Kenya!

i think they are fine - roughly a million people each - and by 2050 - probably 1.5. That is just about the population of Namibia or Botswana or the many well ran smaller Island countries. The 47 cities should be modern 250K cities like Windhoek or Gaborone. We really don't need Nigeria mega city slums. Economies of scale will come from richer people..not necessarily numbers.

Jonraid:
I just wanted your opinion on it.I think we need more bigger counties,with sort of a City/town that should serve them as headquatres. The 47 counties should be reduced IMO! Some counties have been shown not to posses economies of scale due to their low population,less land area and among many other factors.We need this bigger counties to act like 'mini-countries' and that means having the ability to run for themselves more efficiently than the case now!

Yes the problem is normally illegal immigrant doing illegal things. That just compound the problem. If they were being useful to the economy, their communities and were generally good citizen nobody will really care.

tlann:
like my kenyan pal has said go get the right documents and make sure you renew them before they expire or get married to kenyan no one will disturb you peace you will do you business without worries but illegal immigrants selling drugs and internet scams that is illegal and must be deported i think also nigeria deports funny characters in their country and indian is a kenyan tribe and those whites are also kenyan and those italians at the coast

I agree with everything except moving the capital to Isiolo. Nairobi has got economies of scale/consolidation going for it - starting a new Nairobi is not easy. I think Isiolo should carve it's niche as center of kenya, the entry to the north and a resort city. Generally speaking all the 47 county capitals should aspire to become cities by 2050. Nairobi is well on it's way to being one of most important metropolis in the world - now easily competing with Joburg, Cairo and Lagos for center of Africa - and it appears Nairobi will probably win the center of Africa battle. We need to invest HUGELY in Nairobi. It's the our biggest asset now. It we deal with traffic jams & eliminate those slums - by providing social housing - Nairobi is well on it's way to being the London of Africa.

Jonraid:
The IGAD countries might be a good bet.If only those countries get their act together and enjoy some relative peace then we will have opened up new opportunities for our people.Look at how Kenyan investment made a killing in South Sudan ! We really need to open up the North like you've said.More growth in the Southern part than the North isn't desirable.The location of Nairobi might have been a factor,there is more in the Southern periphery than the North.There was a talk of Isiolo being the new capital city back then,what's your thoughts in this?

We also allow Nigerian to be citizen.There is a path to citizenship. The easiest is arriving at JKIA in the morning & talk to any kenyan girl, booking a marriage in the afternoon, and after 3 weeks get married - and you're a kenyan.

Kenya Indians are a tribe. Deal with it. They've been here for 100yrs. Kenya whites are kenyan. Kenyan Italians are kenyans. Deal with it. We even elect them as our leaders.

Illegal immigrants those we don't want. We want reciprocate treatment - if we allow Nigeria to come here and live freely - allows us in Nigeria to come and live freely.But we want Africa that allows free movement of labour and trade...and until that happen - illegal is illegal.

Let Nigeria sign the Africa Free Trade !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only Kenya, Ghana, South Africa and Rwanda have done this.

68816419:
fool, so u support the deportation of other Africans and you allowed Indians, Brits and Italians to be citizens .? , how stupid could that be, why don't you deport these guys(Indians,Brits and Italians) and see if your country won't be worst than "Zimbabwe".
I will keep saying this, Kenyans have been mentally defeated and it's only devin redemption and intervention that can help out.

I think now that Ethiopia, Somali and South Sudan are sorting their issues - we should really think about integrating our economies towards the north. Tanzania hostility and petty jealousy is making trading with them impossible. We can easily do more trade with Somalis using their diaspora and ethnic somalis as the bridge. That basically mean we need to build roads to Somali, Sudan and Ethiopia - and try spur development in the northern of Kenya. Improved security & infrastructure will unlock that "Semi-Arid & Arid" waste land - I believe there is massive wealth lying underneath that North - that can only be explored when we tamed it.We really need to focus north - and prioritize LAPSET - it may seem like waste of money with doubtful ROI - but I think we are already on the marginal gains on the Mombasa-Nairobi-Malaba corridor. Opening up LAMU - GARISSA-ISIOLO-LODWAR - with branch to THIKA,MOYALE& MANDERA - should be the priority - after we are done with dual road from Mombasa to Malaba, SGR to Kisumu/Malaba - and with branch to Nakuru & Eldoret. Nairobi also need Mass transit - Light Train like yesterday. All these are pretty achievable in the medium term.

Jonraid:
We need not to look at what our African Counterparts are doing.We might be in the same continent but we are at different worlds altogether.No one knows the pain of sitting at the equator being 70% arid and semi arid habouring Somalia to the East,Oromo rebels infested Ethiopia to the North and war torn South Sudan to the North West.We would have been better than where we are with strong neighbors.But leaving that aside,we are the drivers of our own destiny.Its nice seeing that our development partners are still confident in us,we just need critical internal reforms,the realization of the big four and a brilliant president coming 2022 then we are good!

That is great - poor people deserve some help from gov - at least on basic needs (food, healthcare,housing & education). South Africa is definitely better than most of Africa countries and you cannot fault the Nigerians from trying to escape to semblance of a functioning country. Kenya is finding itself having to spend a lot of money deporting Nigerians - I think imprisoning some of these immigrants for six months - so they can work for their air ticket back home would lessen the burden. Anyway If Zim fix their issues...that burden will become manageable.

Now I think just like our ethnic politics is an albatross - how you'll seize land & mines from whites represent your biggest challenge - Zim mismanaged and they went down.

Lionessza6:
Actually the south african government doesn't only provide those services to poor Africans, all races in south Africa are included in the system , this ofcourse is not widely publicised because it would be embarrassing for the demi gods who had a 400 year headstart to be languishing in poverty like the rest of us, it is difficult for them to explain.

What you are proposing is what has been happening since the mid 90s. Illegal immigrants get deported every month , but they keep on coming on 90 day visits or 3 month visa visits. I don't know who lied to some nations that you can kick gold on every street in Johannesburg, because it seems like that's what they are told. Right now we are resorting to drastic measures , locking them up in camps for months , because we can't keep on losing money that is meant for our people in deporting people who refuse to fix their own backyards. Zimbabwe is truly our biggest burden with all these fake refugees from west Africa and south Asia. I'm happy though that parliament is reviewing our immigration laws , hopefully they will be stricter to the people who have no business being here .

The projections are in Draft 2018 Budget Review and Outlook paper - pg 41 - there is a table there.
http://www.treasury.go.ke/component/jdownloads/send/198-2018-2019/1279-draft-2018-budget-review-outlook-paper.html
By end of this year(2018) - I think we will definitely be more than 90B -possibly around 92B(9.2 trillion Kshs) dollars. If we grow at projected 5-
7% in the medium term - treasury are predicted by end of 2023 - we should be well into 160B plus (IMF think we will be at 132B).

Note: M-pesa transaction this year will probably exceed 5 trillions (50B) - so that should tell you the economy reaching mere 15 trillion in 3-4yrs from now is easy breezy.

Jonraid:
Hey,where can i get the treasury's projection stats of our economy from now till 2022?

Yeap I like you honesty. Folks should see these debates more as "peer review" not online war btw countries. South Africa has to deal with those issues #1) provide quality education/healthcare/welfare to poor black rural/township/slums and 2#) deal with immigrants. I think sorting Zimbwabwe will eliminate about half of those immigrants - and while that is yet to happen - South Africa police simply has to deport illegal immigrants - there is no other way around that - just have a budget to hunt down and deport all illegal immigrants.

Lionessza6:
I support you on the bolded. Many African leaders starve their nations of educational opportunities to keep the populace living in ignorance and fear of the unknown .We we have seen it here in south Africa in the rural settings . The Anc for a longtime dragged their feet on rural development(universities / colleges) because that is where they have most voters ,now that this is changing, there is more political parties participating in these areas, which is good for a maturing democracy .

Xenophobic attacks happened in the UK and other developed economies , when you are yet to address domestic issues and you add cheap labour from poor immigrants, you will always get such results . The slowpokes of the Anc government are now learning to get their " my brother' s keeper " crap in check or they will be embarrassed at the polls. You can not have 10 million immigrants , mainly from poor countries in a population of 55 million with a struggling economy and internal conflicts , shyt is bound to fly.

What is the mining multiplier effect on other sectors including gov and finances. I think South Africa without Gold/Coal/other minerals won't be that far. South Africa advancement is basically down to it's minning industry.

The reality is South Africa black population have received a historically bad deal and they really need to work on it...otherwise the projected growth of 1-2% for the next 10yrs means Kenya may soon catch up with your economy.

15yrs ago South Africa (around 150B) GDP was maybe 10 times larger than Kenya(15B). Now it's just 4 times larger -90B versus 350B. Kenya is projected to grow by 6% then next decade.

In the next five years - South Africa GDP will be about 2-3 times larger than Kenya - around 400B versus 150B. Give it another 5yrs - and by 2030 - Kenya may as well have about the same GDP as South Africa.

The icing on the cake is kenya would have done this without any natural resources unlike many basket case Africa countries.

Lionessza6:
Mineral dependant economies you say ? I'm guessing if we didn't have minerals your economy would be better than us ?.



ECONOMIC IMPACT

Basic statistics

Although once dominant, mining and quarrying now account for only 8% of South African gross domestic product (GDP). Since the middle of the last century the relative contributions of agriculture and manufacturing have also shrunk, while those of other sectors have grown. Finance at 20% is now the biggest sector, followed by government at 17%.

Mining accounts for 11% of gross fixed capital formation, but also for 16% of all foreign direct investment in South Africa. The industry accounts for only 0.3% of corporate taxpayers, but they were responsible for 6% of tax assessed in 2014. Although mining employs almost half a million people, this is only 5% of the country's workforce.

http://fse.org.za/index.php/item/593-the-impact-of-mining-on-the-south-african-economy-and-living-standards


South African GDP- 8%=? . Now compare the answer to your own GDP , I said when you attempt to throw shades or sissy jabs check yourself.

There is no perfect democracy but kenya is perhaps Africa most advanced democracy that has held elections every 5 yrs without fail, have a free press, with people enjoying all the rights, freedoms and liberties you'd expect from a democracy. Our democracy major weakness is our ethnic driven politics. Of course kenya is still a poor developing country and that is just part of the deal. Until we develop - we will not see issue driven politics - but we are a democracy nonetheless. A democracy way better than Nigeria.

MtuMsuper:
Kenya is NOT a democracy. We are a pretend country. And like all things founded on lies and nothingness, we shall have a short shelf life.

Kenya's Equity Bank hit a jackpot in DRC - they just need to negotiate the jungle of Congo & Cameroon - and hit Nigeria pretty soon
https://kenyanwallstreet.com/equitys-congo-records-fastest-growth-among-its-subsidiaries/?fbclid=IwAR3_0O8oOX6o4_29mYxelzMRD3yK5_jTn1tjTWm35bK5lWUD-4kElm74HtM

Rubbish list of discarded oil blocks that Shell found unprofitable because of kidnapping and logistics . Royal Dutch Shell still ran Nigeria oil..esp the un-monitored offshore oil in the sea.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-shell-insight/in-nigeria-shells-onshore-roots-still-run-deep-idUSKCN1M3069

68816419:
I laugh in Swahili, no foreigners owns 0.0001% of Nigeria oil wells .

77 Full List of Oil Block and Oil Well Owners in Nigeria
1) Alhaji Mai Daribo: a Bornu Patriarch is the owner of OML 110 that has high yield. The oil well has an OBE oil field that has an estimation of over 500 million oil barrels. If you explain that in layman’s language by using an average benchmark of 100 dollars per barrel and this is equivalent to $500 billion dollars worth of reserve oil. If you happen to remove the taxes, sundry duties and royalties that is worth about 60% of the reserve that is payable over time, you get $20 billion dollars worth of oil in one single family.
2) General Theophilus Danjuma is the owner of OPL 246 whose company is known aw SAPETRO. The oil block exports up two 300000 barrels of crude daily.
3) Colonel Sanni Bello: is owner of NOML 112 and OML 117 and his company is known as the International Petroleum Development Company. Sanni Bellow is the in-law of Abdulsalami Abubakar who was the former Head of State of Nigeria.
4) Alhaji Mohammed Ludimi from Niger State, the in-law. to the former Military President Ibrahim Babangida is the owner of OML 115, OLDWOK Field and EBOk field.
5) Alhaji Sela Mohammed Gambo: who runs Nor East Petroleum Limited owns OML 215.
6) Alhaji Aminu Cantata: _is the owner of OML 108 that is run by Express Petroleum Company Limited.
7) Alhaji W.I Folawiyo is the owner of OML 113 and the name of his operating company in that oil well is Yinka Folawiyo Ltd
Prince Nasiru Ado Bayero who is the cousin of the Central Bank Governor Lamido Sanusi is the owner of ASUOKPU/UMUTU marginal oil fields and he runs the Seplat Petroleum. This oil well has a capacity of 300000 barrels of oil in capacity on a daily basis. This is equivalent to $30 million dollars on a daily basis and the average benchmark is $100 dollars per barrel. When Sunday taxes, royalties are removed, this field can yield up to $12 billion dollars for it’s owners.
9) Atiku Yaradua and Bayero owns Intel and they have reasonable stakes in the oil and gas exploration industry of Nigeria.
10) Rilwan Lukman: the former OPEC chairman owns AMNI, a company that has 2 oil blocks OML 112 and OML 117. He has stakes in EBOK oil fields in OML 67
11) Dan Etete, Abacha ‘s oil minister owns Malabu Oil that operates the oil well OPL 245. The name of the operating company of this oil well is Malabu Oil & Gas Company. The oil block is worth $20 billion dollars
12) Peter Odili owns OPL 289 and OPL 233 and the operating firm in this oil well is Clewater Refinery and RivGas Petroleum and Gas Company which managed by OKey Ezenwa as the Vice Chairman.
13) Andy Uba is a major operator of OPL 286 which he runs through Focus Energy which is in partnership with the BG Group.
14) Emeka Offor owns OPL 291 that is operated by Starcrest Energy Nigeria Limited. This oil well was later sold to Addax Petroleum Development Company Limited. Emeka Of for still has stakes in OPL 291.
15) Mike Adenuga owns Conoil which is the oldest indigenous oil exploration industry in Nigeria. The Conoil has six oil blocks and it exports more than 200000 barrels of crude oil on a daily basis.
16) Alfred James Petroleum owns OPL 302 which are owned conjointly by Adewunmi Sujuade, Gone Sijuade, Cooke Sijuade, Adedeji Sijuade, Olayinka Sijuade, Adeyemi Osiyemi, Femisola Awosika with A.O Adeyinka as the Chairman.
17) J.O Udoji with his colleagues own OPL 226 and the operating company
1) Alhaji Mai Daribo: a Bornu Patriarch is the owner of OML 110 that has high yield. The oil well has an OBE oil field that has an estimation of over 500 million oil barrels. If you explain that in layman’s language by using an average benchmark of 100 dollars per barrel and this is equivalent to $500 billion dollars worth of reserve oil. If you happen to remove the taxes, sundry duties and royalties that is worth about 60% of the reserve that is payable over time, you get $20 billion dollars worth of oil in one single family.
2) General Theophilus Danjuma is the owner of OPL 246 whose company is known aw SAPETRO. The oil block exports up two 300000 barrels of crude daily.
3) Colonel Sanni Bello: is owner of NOML 112 and OML 117 and his company is known as the International Petroleum Development Company. Sanni Bellow is the in-law of Abdulsalami Abubakar who was the former Head of State of Nigeria.
4) Alhaji Mohammed Ludimi from Niger State, the in-law. to the former Military President Ibrahim Babangida is the owner of OML 115, OLDWOK Field and EBOk field.
5) Alhaji Sela Mohammed Gambo: who runs Nor East Petroleum Limited owns OML 215.
6) Alhaji Aminu Cantata: _is the owner of OML 108 that is run by Express Petroleum Company Limited.
7) Alhaji W.I Folawiyo is the owner of OML 113 and the name of his operating company in that oil well is Yinka Folawiyo Ltd
Prince Nasiru Ado Bayero who is the cousin of the Central Bank Governor Lamido Sanusi is the owner of ASUOKPU/UMUTU marginal oil fields and he runs the Seplat Petroleum. This oil well has a capacity of 300000 barrels of oil in capacity on a daily basis. This is equivalent to $30 million dollars on a daily basis and the average benchmark is $100 dollars per barrel. When Sunday taxes, royalties are removed, this field can yield up to $12 billion dollars for it’s owners.
9) Atiku Yaradua and Bayero owns Intel and they have reasonable stakes in the oil and gas exploration industry of Nigeria.
10) Rilwan Lukman: the former OPEC chairman owns AMNI, a company that has 2 oil blocks OML 112 and OML 117. He has stakes in EBOK oil fields in OML 67
11) Dan Etete, Abacha ‘s oil minister owns Malabu Oil that operates the oil well OPL 245. The name of the operating company of this oil well is Malabu Oil & Gas Company. The oil block is worth $20 billion dollars
12) Peter Odili owns OPL 289 and OPL 233 and the operating firm in this oil well is Clewater Refinery and RivGas Petroleum and Gas Company which managed by OKey Ezenwa as the Vice Chairman.
13) Andy Uba is a major operator of OPL 286 which he runs through Focus Energy which is in partnership with the BG Group.
14) Emeka Offor owns OPL 291 that is operated by Starcrest Energy Nigeria Limited. This oil well was later sold to Addax Petroleum Development Company Limited. Emeka Of for still has stakes in OPL 291.
15) Mike Adenuga owns Conoil which is the oldest indigenous oil exploration industry in Nigeria. The Conoil has six oil blocks and it exports more than 200000 barrels of crude oil on a daily basis.
16) Alfred James Petroleum owns OPL 302 which are owned conjointly by Adewunmi Sujuade, Gone Sijuade, Cooke Sijuade, Adedeji Sijuade, Olayinka Sijuade, Adeyemi Osiyemi, Femisola Awosika with A.O

https://infoguidenigeria.com/oil-well-owners/

Make believe. First Kick out Shell. Then Kick out South African businesses by out-competing them. You biggest tax payer outside OIL is MTN.

68816419:
hahaha nigger , we already on tract, by 2020 we shall be exporting refined oil and other products to other Africa countries including ur dead country, we did that in cement , movies and entertainment, banking and insurance,Tech (ebay , konga and the rest) sports and soon petrochemical products.
Nigeria is real giant of Africa

Precisely. In fact we should encourage more indians, british and even nigerian business men to come over and "dominate" us in business. The beneficiary will be kenya economy. Our gov will get lot more taxes. We already have bigger budget than Nigeria because of this.

Kur17:
Kenya is always encouraging for foreign investors, so those are really positive fruits of it...

In Nairobi, we have over 60 malls about 5 are owned by foreigners, they should add more at least 20, we love malls men!!

We have countless shoppingmalls and indurstries in Kenya, even if foreigners will own 50% or more we won't mind...

The largest ones are always owned by locals

Of course there are indian and foreign business in Kenya - this is not Nigeria wilderness but some of the business you see in Kenya owned by pliable asians are fronts for political class - to money launder corruption & drug dealing proceeds.

For example Nakumatt (on it's death bed) & Charterhouse Bank (Closed by CBK)- were for a long time being used by Harun Mwau to launder money. If I am not wrong Harun Mwau most likely owns West Gate.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/How-Harun-Mwau-exit-triggered-Nakumatt-s-cash-troubles/1056-4201232-y2j31qz/index.html

68816419:
guess u only saw nakumatt in my post, how about all the industries, serif center , west gates mall,Supermarkets Chandarana, biggest schools and many more ?

Nakumatt is down - and Kenya is up - kenya indigenous (black) owned business are so many - your research somehow escaped them?

For example - Tusky now the largest supermarket chains in the Great Lakes/East Africa - is owned by black kenyan. The rest are also owned by African - NAIVAS, Uchumi - name them - there were only two "indian" supermarket - one got sold to Botswana Choppies and other is down.

Besides most of the indian business you see are front for our political class...Nakumatt for example was owned by Harun Mwau (kenyan black Drug dealer) and went he withdrew his cash - the company came tumbling down.

The real proxy owner of Nakumatt - Drug Dealer Harun Mwau at cross hairs of US anti drug agencies.
https://static.pulselive.co.ke/img/incoming/crop5750508/6524673683-chorizontal-w1200-h630/harunmwau1.jpg

68816419:
sincerely speaking, a Kenyan friend of mine once told me that, "without Indians kenya would be worst that Zimbabwe" I then I asked him y would he say such , he continued " imagine the kind of job opportunities nakumat(Kenyan-indian supermarket chains ) serit center and other supermarket alike, Industries, housemaids and cleaners jobs,guardsmen would be lost?" .
that prompted me to make few researches online my self, I found that Indians Somalis,Europeans and few Nigeria banks and firms actually employs over 75% of privately driven job opportunities in kenya .

I don't see 100% - I see 60% shares owned by super-corrupt Nigeria Oil shell company - but with Oil multinational running the show.

68816419:
nigger most of oil well are 100% owned by Nigerians and the exploring companies are over 65 % owned by NNPC (Nigeria oil company).

I won't care about that - I'd care more about Shell stealing our oil. Racial prejudices will always exist. What is important is that indians are kenya 3rd or 5th generation and are often law abiding citizen. I got no beef with them.

68816419:
if they are Kenyans as you mentioned mentioned, how comes they despise you black Kenyans by calling you slaves and lazy people ?

Use this aggression to save your poor country. You still relie on Shell & others to help you produce oil 50yrs late. How complicated is it to nationalize your oil and have Nigerian Oil company sell your oil? Nearly every decent country do this - it's probably only Nigeria where a foreign company controls it's most strategic resource.

Slaveryisgood:
Bwahahahaha look at this idiot trying so hard to hide his exposed ass . British run your agro and tourism sector , Indians run your manufacturing sector and Somali your trading space . Stop making silly excuses like we are all the same citizens . You are nothing but employees in your own land . Your most progressive sectors are dominated by invaders , man up and do what the slave Zulus are doing so you can also be fully emancipated like all of us . Idiots . You sound like Mandela and kofi anan with your foolishness.

So say someone whose entire ECONOMY(OIL) is controlled by SHELL. The Indians and Somalis in Kenya are not running our oil blocks or gold - they are creating value from their own ingenuity and hardwork.As long as they are law abiding I got no problem with that. Somalis is a kenya tribe. Kenya Asian is also an officially recognized tribe. If Nigerians want to come over and legally become citizen - they will be kenyans - spending their money on kenya, investng and employing lot more people.

And even if they were not kenyans - who cares - they are investors, traders and name it - people helping grow the economy - not illegal criminals smooching the system like most Nigerians.

The only peril I see here is your ignorance otherwise the strength of progressive nation like kenya lies in attracting investors.

68816419:
Guess u meant Indians and Somalis, the Indians actually controls the economy of kenya, they owns literally all the factories, while the Somalis controls the trading and commerce, imagine Eastleigh (Somalians area in Nairobi) provides over 34% of Nairobi county IGR?....who ever takes these Kenyans serious does that at its own Pearl .

I told people Magufuli was a idiot and now it's confirmed. Global price of cashew nuts have crashed this year and he tries to force traders to buy at last year prices -after firing two ministers - and when that didn't work - he now orders the army to collect and eat the cashew nuts.

A true nut case.

The nut case like Buhari has sent investors scampering after demanding billion of dollars from Barrick Gold. Buhari did the same to MTN and now after all the trouble..he is getting 35M dollars.

Concentrate on maize & beans. Tech is above TZ paygrade. Nala is just financial app that rans on the phone and can only excite poor TZ.

Kazikazi:
We will take out Mpesa.
We have developed something better,7 times faster than mpesa, this advanced technology doesn't need internet connection.No USSD.
Nala Money from Tanzania.

Holy COW.

mtisTheQubit:
According to the report, the percentages of the Nigerian population living under extreme poverty were as follows: 1980 (6.2 per cent), 1985 (12.1 per cent), 1992 (13.9 per cent), 1996 (29.3 per cent), 2004 (22 per cent) and 2010 (38.7 per cent).