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You got all the petro-dollars in the world, your cities look whack, you can't even afford a decent camera. The building look really old - like built last in 70s and 80s.

This is Nairobi - Old CBD.

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It's a picture break to drive the point home once in a while. Your grainy pictures tells it all. You can't afford a half decent camera or the cities are that polluted.

68816419:
hahaha well, u won't blame him, he does that only when his been bursted, he then resulted to posting same pics to brush and improve his ego .

University of Nairobi - with it's own 20 plus floors- Tower of classrooms.
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Lagos has a long way to evenly re-distribute it's slums. Those are just our old cbd skyscrappers - image squashed so you can see how far you need to go.
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68816419:
Man are u tired if recycling same CBD over and over again.
check Lagos CBDs
Ikeja
Marina
Lekki
VI
more reasons y u should visit 9ja and see what even distributed development means ...hahaha

Nairobi Old CBD - still kick arse - postcard pic for Nigeria kids to dream big
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Nairobi - Kileleshaw & Lavington - now turning into high rise apartments & office. Find me a rusted roof - Nigeria.
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Nairobi a beehive of construction - this is just westlands - majority of skycrappers coming up in Africa are in Nairobi
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Nairobi is competing with Joburg and Cairo - not slum cities of Nigeria - Kindly look for a slum in those pictures - or rusted iron sheet roofed house
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Nairobi - 3rd CBD - Westland Business District
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Crazy Construction going on as it races to rival Upper hill & Old cbd
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Upperhill Nairobi - New CBD built the last two decades.
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Nigeria - This is Nairobi - No Europe
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When Nigeria get to this level of development - come and yap nonsense
Nairobi - Upper hill - Nairobi's Sandton - New CBD built the last 2 decade!!
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The download pdf on their site doesn't work. The EU obviously want to be at heart of Kenya and compete with US and China for influence in shaping Africa.

The EU recently took over the completed Dunhill towers...so they are here for long haul
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kikuyu1:
BTW, rvp2018, since you're here give us a breakdown on the 5 bn USD grant for the EU. Exactly where and how will it be invested for max efficiency and infrastructure improvements? A short two paragraph analysis would be much appreciated. That money can do a lot!!

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Kenya won't need our aid in four years, says Netherlands
FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 23 2016

Dutch Foreign Trade and Development Cooperation Minister Lilianne Ploumen during a past visit to Kenya. PHOTO | FILE
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The Netherlands assistance to Kenya has been concentrated in supporting food security programmes, governance and human rights, improvement of the business climate, environmental conservation, sanitation as well as culture and sports.
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By BRIAN NGUGI
The Netherlands says it will stop giving Kenya aid in the next four years on account of the country’s “significant” economic growth.
Dutch Minister for Foreign Trade and Development Cooperation Lilianne Ploumen told the Dutch Parliament this week that the relationship between the Netherlands and Kenya — after 2020 — can be labelled “trade partners” only, hence the decision to scrap aid.
Ms Ploumen said in a statement outlining the new direction between the two countries that the Kenyan economy had grown significantly over the past decade.
The move is expected to impact Dutch support for programmes in Kenya ranging from good governance and human rights, business climate, food security, environment and sanitation as well as culture and sports.
The Netherlands and Kenya have been close development partners since independence in 1963....
Mr Kenyatta said then that foreign aid “often carries terms and conditions that preclude progress”."

After Dec 2020 we're on our own!

Those must be Benin, Niger and Ghana visiting your zoo.

The real tourist stats in Africa that we know are like this.

Morocco
South Africa
Tunisia
Algeria
Zimbabwe
Namibia
Kenya

68816419:
just search YouTube and confirm if my proposal, u don't even need to come as your coming would be of no use to us.
we even generate more income and people form tourism than your stupid country, u guys are not even in top ten .how shameful!

I am actually not in Kenya as I type this. I have no desire to visit or live in Nigeria. And you can just check your tourism industry to confirm if I am alone.

68816419:
hahaha only if you have the money to travel, I am sure u haven't gone past kenya or may be a road trip to arusha or Uganda.
u guys are too poor, kiss the truth and be loyal.

That is what we've been doing here from page 1 - and all we see are RUSTED SLUM CITIES with din of GENERATORS - really dusty murram roads outside one or two highways - pipe water is a dream - then add insecurity & kidnapping - I mean there is nothing in your zoo that would interest anyone to visit. That is why your tourism industry is next to ZERO. Why on earth would I ever waste my money to come that god-for-saken ZOO!

68816419:
I know you gat no money to travel, but at least you could search YouTube for Vlog on Trip to Nigeria, search for abuja, Lagos, porthct,calabar,uyo,kano,Jos,Ibadan,ogun and any other places u wish, search drone views and another info you wish and then compare it that your shitty place.
thank me later .

I think it's average - coz the profile of the 1.2M visiting - really differs - maybe about 300K are safari heavy spending - another 300K are business conference type - another 300k stay for a day or two - others are africans visiting and stay cheaply - backpackers - the whole gamut - and but I think on average they'll spend 1,000 dollars on accomodation, food, park fee & such - air ticket is not part of the deal.

kikuyu1:
Imo,that figure is def too low! Average 4 star Nairobi hotel is around 150$ a night bnb so it must be at least 10x that for a week. The problem is tour operators have tricks to keep most of the money off shore.

If what I have seen in the last 2K plus pages is anything to go by - then I'll have to pass the opportunity to visit your zoo. If what I have seen in several rankings by many reputable institution about your infrastructure, service industry and general quality of life - then I am afraid I am not interested in visiting your zoo.

South Africa is definitely a country we look upto. Not your zoo.

68816419:
oboy, of all places,Kenya? , nigger come visit Nigeria and see for your self, we have best infrastructure in Africa ,larger electric outreach, best banks, best entertainment industry, we have larger,wider and cleaner roads than that of that small shit hole who only thinks already colonial developed CBD is what development is all about.

I think Big 4 is on great - but apart from housing & universal health - I think manufacturing will take some time - in the meantime our exports are not growing but stuck at 5-6B dollars - and we need to think about exporting our services. Providing quality education to Nigerians who've been failed by their gov could earn us their petro-dollars. Therefore we need to make it easy for Africa students to come to Kenya and study. That would mean more investment in really high quality private universities from private sector - and possibly attracting satellite campus like USIU,

Jonraid:
If the big four turns out a success.We will be very good at 2022! It's just a matter of Uhuru delivering his legacy.The news of 5 billion dollar from the EU partnership is good news.When you put five billion dollar into the economy,you feel its impact!That's good money for a country of 50m people!

All good except it's all delusion. The reality of a nigerian worker or army guy is that he wakes up to no electricity, dry taps, dusty roads, and delayed salary - and of course poverty.

Slaveryisgood:
Stupid masai stop dreaming . All African countries are suffering the same faith. We are even better off . Our army remain the best after only Egypt, kill Your self. Our civil servants are the best paid only after north Africa not the rest of lazy haters from East and southern Africa. Stupid hungry masai. I used to think the stupid Zulus on this forum were the dumbest and backward Africans before I met you think an angry masais . Small dick bastards. No wonder your ugly women hunt naija all over the place .

There is no top Africa 10 Nigerian university. That is something. Why don't you invest your petrodollars on at least 10 big universities of highest quality.

forgiveness:
Will 50 million Kenyans be able to study in only one university in top 10?

If I bring top 100, we still have higher percentage of universities rated highly than your 309b dollars universities. Bhuhahahaha!

- Paid regularly better than Nigeria. You actually think just because you don't have electricity the rest of Africa do the same - leave alone kenya. THE SAME WITH SALARIES.

ALL KENYAN EMPLOYEES ARE PAID REGULARLY - Okay that is understatement. They are paid as early as 15th of every month - 2 weeks before the due date - by Banks - who are so sure gov will pay their salaries

There is no history of any KENYAN gov public employee or pensioner having missed their salary ever. People don't even know what being paid regularly mean..

Leave alone our ARMY . No wonder your army regularly overthrow the civilian gov.

I know this hard for you to believe because a Nigerian public employee getting their salary on time is a MIRACLE. Majority are owed salary areas some running years.

Slaveryisgood:
Name 3 African countries that pay their soldiers and public workers better than Nigeria? How many are paid regularly better than Nigeria. You are stupid, don't mention Kenya before I descend on you. Foolish.

Don't cherry-pick university ranking to shows more of your universities in some arbitrary top 50. Why not try top 10? or top 20 or top 200?

forgiveness:
I think they are bloody liars.

How can Kenya spend billions on Education yet Kenya has only two universities in the top 50 best universities in Africa. Meaning nothing to show for it.

Are we daft to know their are juries evaluating the performance of universities? Or should we ignore established facts from reliable and trustworthy sources just to swallow fat lies from these lying Kenyans here?

Poor education. Budget. GDP. Go back to school - and this time try Mogadishu University.

Slaveryisgood:
Fool do you even know what 10% of our GDP is compared to your 30% . Your country is poor 80billion shillings . Stupid

We spend 30% of our budget - which is equal to Nigeria budget - on Education. That is why without a drop of oil and an ounce of gold and carat of diamond - we are one of Africa largest & most progressive economy.

You spend I think 10% of your budget to education - 4-5 times the number of kids.

You spend less money on education than kenya on dollars time - and you've more students, teachers & schools.

It's one reason why your education system have gone to the dogs - and soon you'll find yourself going to Mogadishu University to get quality education.

Slaveryisgood:
How much do you spend on education empty chest beater . You want to conquer Africa and the world with what budget . Stupid Kenyans are funny .

You must be one of criminal nigerians we recently deported from Kenya hence the all-consuming self-hate. You should channel that anger into producing some music and videos to keep us entertained.Matters development...pictures don't lie!

Slaveryisgood:
You admit to listening to crack heads Jamaicans and South Africans , you Kenyans are dumb I swer. Nigeria , to Tanzania and Congo have no match in great music , swallow the truth mudafacka. Yes you thin bastards are jealous of us , why are you on nairaland?. Nigeria has way better electricity than you lazy fools , we lead but not shout like you . So you are jealous of hiv, huge foreheads and slavery . You Kenyans have no standards no wonder we come there and dominate . Fools

This can be great forex earner if gov was to invest in - together with making our hospitals the best in the region.We need to market our very good education system - and get % of the money that end up in South Africa, Australia and US - in most of the anglophone Africa.

Jonraid:
I visited Strathmore University last week.There is a lot of diversity there! That place is magical.The number of international students is rising in Kenya.We will soon be the hub of education in Africa!


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We listen to good music. Jamaican, South Africa, Tanzania, DRC and the last decade Nigerian.We watch good movies. We use great banks. But to be jealous of Nigeria is hilarous? Jealous of what? If South Africa was talking - yeah I'd admit some envy of South Africa and such progressive nation. NIGERIA - fix your electricity first !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slaveryisgood:
Jealousy will kill you mudafacka masai . Nigeria leads , the rest of Africa follows. You listen to our music , you watch our movies, you use our banks , you wear our clothes , you speak our pidgin . You are our slaves, stupid lazy fools.

Fake figures are fake. It easy to validate and cross-reference data. For instance it's not only TZ which receives tourists - most countries around the region receive the same profile of tourist - safari/game drive long distance tourists mostly from Europe & USA visit kenya, TZ, Botswana and South Africa - to mostly see game (wild animals), have few days in the beach to sun-bathe & a little or more of that. If Kenya, Botswana & South Africa think the average Tourist spend 1,000 dollars - and the lazy Tananzia inflate their figures to 2,000 dollars...it doesn't change the reality that Tanzania is poor least developed country in SADC, EAC and Africa.

Nowenuse:
Very soon people like you will claim the United states, Canada and Japan produce fake figures perhaps.

Any figures that do not sit well with your masai brains become cooked figures. Pathetic.

You sound really angry. Is your generator giving you trouble again? Nigeria leading Africa in anything positive outside population is of course not true. Your public and private universities are CRAP. The last time Nigeria had a decent education system was somewhere in 60s/70s/80s....but now it gone literally to the dogs..and you're one such manifestation. See the gibberish you've just typed and we are talking universities.

Slaveryisgood:
Stupid masai , Nigeria leads Africa when it comes to best private universities, only Egypt talk when we talk , not even the overrated stupid South Africa has such not to talk of smaller dark hungry Kenya. What nonsense is this ? . Kenya is that the name of a dog or what .

Kenya send lots of students to USA,UK, Australia and South Africa.In fact at some point we had more students in the US than Nigeria.Nigeria ONLY overtook Kenya in 2008 as Africa leading sourceof foreign students to the US after we fixed our universities which explains why many foreign students are rushing to Kenya.Nigeria universities remain a huge mess and you have to export a lot of dollars for sometime until you fix your horrible underfunded education.After discovering we were exporting money to developed world for something as basic as University we massively invested in universities..from 7 public and 4 private universities in 2000s..the number rose quickly to nearly 100..from enrollment of less than 50k..it rose to more than half a million.Now that chapter is closed.We are focusing on vocational training as we prepare to industralize.. opening about 1000 new vocational training centers and want to ramp enrollment in vocational colleges to a million.Nigeria with miniscule public budget cannot afford to spend the minimum of 25 Perc on education and therefore you'll continue wasting petrodollars like you done before.Youve earned more than 600b dollars of oil money the last 50yrs and all you have to show for it is rusted slum cities.Part of the money is wasted by sending students all over the world for something basic as university degree.

68816419:
hmmm funny Kenyans do you know how many Nigerians r in chads, nigger,Ghana and other poorer countries...and how many of these same foreign students are studying and leaving in Nigeria, we don't go to countries cause we see it "poor" we go to any country we would benefits and have a better chance of overriding the daft local population.
The only reasons u won't find Kenyans in Nigeria universities is because Kenyans can't afford to TRAVEL to Nigeria as most of them are too poor to pay for cost of fares and others expensive unlike Nigeria who can afford to spend, Kenyans only depends on government loans to carter for their educational need and for such reason u hardly find average Kenyans in private university, their you only find Somalis,Nigerians , Indians and other politician children .