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Any reasonable Nigerian left Nigeria. Only the zoombies are left there and they too are trying to cross the Sahara to escape Nigeria. The brain drain is real. Those left are either daft or resigned to their fate or crooks.

They've imported 70M generators - the zoombies cannot think straight.

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Tell me one country in planet earth that would ran generators for 20 or 30 yrs without a national revolution. You can imagine 1hr black out can make blood boil for many - but having electricity on average for 4hrs every day - out of 24hrs - for generations.

kikuyu1:
In any other country Yemi Kale would have been sacked/lynched/laughed out of office the first month. He not only keeps his job BUT DOUBLES DOWN ON THE BS!! AND SOME ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT 34% CONTRIBUTION!!!!
My,my,my. Who can explain this,srsly?!

I guess Nigeria replaced Niger. Not too bad.

And you think East African just starve for fun. People who starve in Africa are mainly those living in ecological unstable zones prone to drought & of course those affected by war. In East Africa - Ethiopia was the poster child - but it's made tremendous progress. Now it's just Somalia & South Sudan.

Nowenuse:
Please google starvation in Niger republic and check the results.
The last starvation in Niger republic was in 2005 and this happened because there was a massive locust invasion which came and destroyed most of their food crops.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_Niger_food_crisis

West Africans do not starve without a justifiable reason.

And with all oil money you're blessed with - you still need UN to feed them?

Nowenuse:
That was from 2 years ago when BH was at it's peak. There are no more internally displaced people in Adamawa and Yobe states. They've been resettled since last year and have gone back to their normal lives, s there has been no insurgency in both states.

https://punchng.com/adamawa-close-idps-camps-next-month/amp/

https://amp.pulse.ng/news/local/in-yobe-state-government-set-to-close-last-idps-camp-id6009893.html

Borno is the only state with IDPs. And they have IDP centers and camps where they are been provided for.

It's Nigeria which is in big trouble - because every minute - there are many Nigeria joining poverty.

bantudra:
guy,we are all in big trouble in africa....

Kenya this year marked a milestone - when WFP exited from feeding 1.5M kids in semi arid & arid areas. This a program that ran since 1980s.

So the narrative of northern kenya starving is pretty much on it's last chapter. We have to thank M-pesa mobile money for make it possible for gov to quickly intervene when there is drought by wiring money to people in need.

You should know China exited from WFP school feeding program around 2000s. So this important milestone for kenya.

https://www.wfp.org/news/news-release/government-takes-over-school-meals-kenya-world-food-programme

Kenya long moved from UN begging bowl. You should ask UN WFP. In fact even our school feeding is now funded by our gov. In meantime Nigeria - the whole of North East - now depend on UN agencies to feed. And yet you've got all the oil.

Just compare http://www1.wfp.org/countries/nigeria
And http://www1.wfp.org/countries/Kenya

Nigeria is on the red...WFP is in the process of exiting Kenya..because there is no more people starving here. The poor are getting monthly transfers from gov every month.

You have 7.7 million in need of humanitarian assistance in Borno, Adamawa, and Yobe states.

bantudra:
thats not true....many just barely survive....

their are youtube videos....we nigerians know whats going on in kenya....we know kenyan young girls sell their bodies for money.....

thats why we are disgusted at your tourism bullshitt....we know whats all about.....

Many kenyans use to starve - not many now as social safety consisting of cash transfer has lifted many out of poverty - but as far as UN WFP goes 2017/2018 -

Nigeria is one of four nations on the brink of famine. Yemen, South Sudan and Somalia are also facing dire hunger, in what U.N. officials say is the largest humanitarian crisis since the international body's creation.
https://www.voanews.com/a/world-food-program-warns-severe-/3815169.html

And with all the OIL

The U.N. agency needs $200 million to keep feeding Nigeria's hunger-stricken population.

Maiduguru IDP camps
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They starve. Niger, Nigeria, Mali, Kenya and many africa countries have citizens still facing starvation. We have at least 10-20% of our population constantly staring at starvation and we are working on building a social safety net for them using mobile money - and we are suceeding.

Nowenuse:
No they do not starve.

Do you know that Nigerians get most of our livestocks from Niger republic? How can they starve when they can purchase food from Nigeria with this money? Food which we have in abundance. Don't forget we are one ECOWAS.

The government of Niger also use their 10% arable land for farming food crops and not flowers and tea. So these food crops and abundance of livestocks sustain their population.
There is even a particular beans variety Nigerians import from Niger republic.

Idiot. Those are very large countries. Russia has enough land to produces all the wheat we need. Tanzania all the cheap maize & beans we need - although Maguful will ban export to Kenya so we starve . We have very little arable land that we need to maximize...and our model should be to follow Isreal & Netherlands.

Kazikazi:
You are right
What a guy is saying is a trash..lack of exposure
USA produces extra cerels, Brazil too, China, South africa

Nope. You import everything including tomato paste. You only excel in producing yams and cassavas.

Nowenuse:
We may never need your cheese and avocados cos we also have them in abundance here.

Niger & Mali obviously starve every year. I was just trying to dissuade you from thinking Northern Nigeria is the same with Northern Kenya. Northern Nigeria is arable and produces a lot of food.Northern Kenya (2/3 of Kenya) is mostly semi-arid and arid. We have a desert named Chalbi.

Nowenuse:
Is northern Kenya more arid than the Sahara desert? (the largest desert in the world)?

A huge chunk of west africa is covered by the sahara desert. Countries like Niger republic and Mali have 70-90% of their landmass completely desertified, yet they never starve.
Stop giving excuses to wickedness from your central government.

Sell us maize - well your cheese! Sell us beans - we sell you avacados! Kenya has a very small arable land that it cannot afford to waste farming cheap cereals which are plentifully in global markets.

Nowenuse:
Sell to you cheaply, then you sell to your citizens at exorbitant prices right? Otherwise, why is the cost of living so expensive in Kenya compared to Tanzania?

Don't let anyone deceive you. Food crops should be the bedrock of every developing nation in order to ensure a lower cost of living.

They live in very rough place - even the mighty British could never colonize them - they were left alone. What do you propose they farm here?

Only the Camel can survive northern Kenya
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Nowenuse:
But really, where were these Turkanas and other savage Kenyan tribes when other Kenyans were being civilized?

Gosh! These people are an eyesore and a shame to all black africans. How can people still be like this in 2018?

Nobody is starving in kenya. We have surplus food. They only starve when there is drought - rainfall fails - otherwise we have put in place to ensure they nerve starve again. There is cash transfer to such poor families. Nigeria are the guys starving in North East.

Nowenuse:
Please brother, stop posting these pictures. As much as I hate the way Kenyans' brains work, seeing that hungry child on the ground breaks my heart, especially when his skin colour looks like mine

If this child was starving because of a war, It would have been easily understandable unlike a case when the child starves because of greedy and devious white and Indian elites in Nairobi and their black collaborators.

This is why we cannot take the likes of rvp2018 and Kikuyu1 over whatever bullshittt they type here on Kenya's economy. Bunch of jokers.

The Queen gave German Prince Mt Kilimanjaro because we had Mt Kenya
Mt Kilimanjaro - Technical in Kenya - Lazy Tanzania have had to literally police the mountain so tourist can go to TZ to climb it.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7377/12252579634_583877a1ed_h.jpg
Mt Kenya - gave the country it's name.
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Those are turkanas. Not Maasai. They are many indigenous tribes in Kenya. Something you Nigeria don't even have.

Slaveryisgood:
Lol known for starving to death, we know . Kenya is the poster child of starvation in the world.

Proud starving masais . The most advanced African farmers , good at farming flowers for the British to sell in Dubai and England

Kericho Kenya - You cannot beat that Nigeria!
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Kenya infrastructure
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Maasai - are Africa most popular tribe - for something. They are proudly African. The nearest you got in Nigeria to this?
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Slaveryisgood:
Lol, these stupid massais are crazy . They are calling themselves the most advanced Africans yet nothing points to it , all we see are British owned buildings and farms and millions of their black asses starving in slums and run down villages . Imagine

We should let lazy Tanzanians and Uganda farm Maize & Beans - and then sell to us cheaply. I don't think kenya can afford to waste it small arable land farming cheap cereals - like Wheat/Rice/Maize/Beans - If I had my way that is - I'd let our farmers do high intensive farmng - tea, coffee, nuts, dairy, horticulture, floriculture, fruits.

Nowenuse:
I wish Kenya would farm more food crops which will help the huge starving population. Starving people cannot drink tea.

Now I see where the obsession for BLANKET AND TEA parties come from in Kenya.

That of course is false. Most our agriculture is at back of small-holder farmers and big farms are not owned by Brits - save I told very few.

Our big success has been tea - the major contributor - has been Kenya Tea Dev Agency - small scale farmers.

KTDA is a success by almost any criteria of assessment. When British left only about 1,000 hectares of tea grown by some 5,000 Africa smallholders produced only one-fifteenth(1/15) as much as Kenya's multinational tea estates.

As we speak now KTDA has more than 500,000 farmers and produces more than 70% of kenyan Tea. Kenya has slowly climbed it's way to become World LARGEST EXPORTER OF TEA and 3rd in production after China & India.

Farmers were able to build this skyscrapper in 90s -from tea windfall.
https://static.flickr.com/101/302707752_99fa540183_o.jpg

We also host the WORLD BIGGEST TEA AUCTION in Mombasa and price of TEA worldwide is determined there.

Slaveryisgood:
Lol my friend you can only fool your fellow Kenyans not us. Those farms are under British control , you are no different from the South Africa you love to throw under the bus. They also have too many small scale farmers who are black but does that change that the big commercial farmers are still white ? . Kenya is on the same boat , nothing different. The big boys are the British and the few elites who have hired British expertise as well . In Nigeria we are not starving , our lands are used to feed us, unlike yours who are used to make money for the British settlers . Your so called small scale farmers can't even feed your communities , we don't see Zimbabweans and South Africans starving to death, are Nigerians starving . Why are you so called advanced African farmers starving to death

You need a girl like this - from rural kenya - to calm your nerves.
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bantudra:
nuclear missile....

Our tea - Africa most successfully - is on the back of smallholder black africans. It Africa success story. You see in most countries including Zim & South Africa - conventional knowledge is that plantation large farms by whites are only way to farm - Kenya has proven by it's agriculture that small holder farmers can kick arse.

This is rural kenya - our economy is on the back of small holder farmers. Nigeria you have a long way to go. Majority of rural farmers have piped water & electricity. The problem we have is few people scattered in deserts of our norths - somalis, turkanas and such people.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqR0Bb5WsAEk0xi.jpg

Slaveryisgood:
Stop deluding yourself , who really owns the farms with tea and flowers ,,? Kiberians? . The British are still your masters boy , that is why you have the largest starving people in Africa . Other Africans have poor people by western standards but you dullards are starving because the settlers lied to you about leaving . They might not live in Kenya in numbers but they run the show from their own comfortable home . The majority of your black asses live worse lives than Nigerians, we own all of our land and can farm and feed while you have to beg the kenyettas and the British to give you a piece of land for feeding . Even the South Africans and Namibians are not starving like you , you are the odd ones out . Poverty has driven you to marathons . Look at how healthy the average nigerian is compared to your starving asses. We Nigerians don't have to answer to any whites like you fools do at those multi nationals , even the Chinese kick your asses in bros day light . Get your land back you stupid fools.

Kenya land - No British or white farmers - apart from very few
Limuru
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Long diatribe based on falsehood. British left kenya in 1963. We dealt with land issues in 1960s and by 1970s that chapter was closed.More than 1M acres of white highlands(British Settler farms) had been handed over to black Africans by 1970. We didn't delay it like South Africa or Zim. As we speak now - the number of white farmers owning land is very small..you can count them in one finger..and they are Kenyans.

Slaveryisgood:
Oh boy , stop dreaming the British never left your black asses , they still own most of Kenya arable lands together with the kenyetta family and some black elites . That is why most of you live in slum starving to death. The lands meant for feeding your asses are still under white control producing tea and flowers , while the real land owners are subjected to poverty and even worse ,starvation . And you bastards are here running mouth about tall buildings , owned by the same whites who come to you in the form of multinationals . They are coming in droves to compete with your new Chinese masters in taking over the little that tiny hungry country has . The more tall buildings whites put down in Nairobi, the more blacks are pushed to the slums and concentration camps . You massais are funny people . Even South Africans and Namibians have started the process of taking their lands from setllers, while cowardly Kenyans are on a nigerian owned forum hoping these two countries will fall so that they can tell the hungry kiberians that we told you it's bad to take back your lands from settlers. We know how you Kenyans reason. I hope your South African friends can see you are not friends just backstabbers who are brainwashed by whites that any country that takes back land will automatically fall , but if you give them all the productive space like Kenya, you will be given good fake predictions of a great future . Dullards .

He is very crazy. But Nigerians don't know better - their best left the country - leaving Ethiopia's Adis Ababa Alumni to churn laughable stats. Brain drain will kill Nigeria - that is why you've got Buhari & Yemi kale doing their thing.

I mean Kenya is big in tourism..and yet it contribute I reckon 1-3% of our economy - not 34%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jonraid:
What strikes me is thay Yemi Kale is now still quoted saying that Nigeria's GDP is at 500 billion dollars and that tourism contributed 34% to their GDP.Well the world bank has a different figure for Nigeria's GDP and tourism receipts! Get more from here https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/06/05/tourism-contributes-34-of-nigerias-gdp-nbs/


You just cannot trust Nigerians with their cooking of data!

He is very crazy. But Nigerians don't know better - their best left the country - leaving Ethiopia's Adis Ababa Alumni to churn laughable stats. Brain drain will kill Nigeria - that is why you've got Buhari & Yemi kale doing their thing.

Jonraid:
What strikes me is thay Yemi Kale is now still quoted saying that Nigeria's GDP is at 500 billion dollars and that tourism contributed 34% to their GDP.Well the world bank has a different figure for Nigeria's GDP and tourism receipts! Get more from here https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/06/05/tourism-contributes-34-of-nigerias-gdp-nbs/


You just cannot trust Nigerians with their cooking of data!

Upper hill - Giving Sandton a ran for their money. Now the preffered destination for multinational companies interested in setting up regional office in Africa- with constant supply of Grade A offices.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzOSMsKWIAAoXvv.jpg

I am not sure about the methodology but it probably a lot of monitoring the forex coming by Central Bankers, surveys to hotels, look at their numbers at point of entry, game park fees and bit of extrapolation. What I am sure about is Tanzania always claiming to make double from the same tourist that we receive.

Jonraid:
How do they come up with this tourism receipts? Do they technically calculate all receipts or just assume the average amount a tourist would spend?

British left Nigeria in 1960s - and they don't see to have added anything except slums. They left us in 1963 - and see what we have done with little we got.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDonJFZXgAA4M3q.jpg

Hahaha - British - left Kenya and Nigeria in early 1960s! That around the same time. They left us with tea & Coffee - they left you with gazillion cubic liters of OIL.

Nairobi
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68816419:
you damn proud of the 1% developed part of your capital city Right, a place that has already been developed by British era , a place beyond average Kenyan? hahaha

Thanks for helping our slow-minded brother - a product of nigeria collapsed education systems.

Jonraid:
This data are fictitious.We already ended this discussion! This is what the world bank says and I'm sorry you are behind us!https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/ST.INT.RCPT.CD