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Kericho Kenya - Largest world exporter of black tea- with production increasingly at double digit the last 30yrs plus.

One wishes - Nigeria could be blessed one day with a leader of this calibre. Ghana has always produced great leader - and NIGERIA despite huge educated class - continue to elect the worst of the worst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1sgmAGRWE

Pretty Impressive from Equity. They have overtaken KCB. And now compared to Nigeria's who have 5 banks in Bankers top 1000 - we have 3 banks (Equity, KCB & Coop). Let's not talk about our laggards the Danganyika fellows - they just don't feature anywhere.

TayserMahiri:
Kenya's Equity Bank is the 35th most solid bank Globally.

11th on profit and loss assets and 44th on profits on capital.

This is a Tier 1 Bank.

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2018/10/equity-ranked-35-most-solid-bank-globally/

Nope. We have more HQS and investment because our workforce is well -trained. When you talk investment - we have been leading source of investment in the region - for more than two decades now - and really apart from 1 or 2 "wild card" reports that you keep quoting here - TZ is always almost at the bottom of any index out there...and cannot compete with kenya. Nigeria the giant mess of Africa have already coiled their tails btw their legs

Again you cannot compare you' poorly trained manpower with kenya best of Sahara work force

Recently Vodafone/Vodacom appointed Kenya lady Sylivia Mulinge to head your Vodacom TZ and despite us being part of East Africa Community - you went ahead to deny her a work permit. You actually prefered to go for Egyptian than a kenya . The whole nation of Lazy people of Tanzania pulled all stops to stop this poor girl.
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Vodacom-Tanzania-says-Sylvia-Mulinge-denied-work-permit-/996-4782542-uvmkhvz/index.html

Of course - our competitive work-force will never lack jobs - I can give one example Daego - one of world biggest Brewers --- here are 4 kenyans that are top managers across the world.

1) Peter Ndegwa Named First African Diageo Head in Europe - Yes a Kenyan is CEO of Daego in Continential Europe & Russia . Formerly he was Nigeria Guinnness CEO. Nigeria didn't deny him a work permit.

For the first in the history of Diageo plc. Peter Ndegwa will be the first African to be at the helm of company’s business operations in Continental Europe and Russia as General Manager a role he assumed in July.

Peter takes up his new role in Amsterdam, Netherlands after serving as the chief executive officer of Guinness Nigeria Breweries for a period of three ears which saw the company boost its sales by a huge a margin

2) Gerald Mahinda -formerly EABL CEO - now CEO Brandhouse in South Africa - joint venture btw Daegoe and Brad.
3) Ndegwa was replaced by another Kenya in Lagos - CEO of Nigeria Guinness is Kenyan Baker Maganda.
4) The CEO of Ghana Guiness is another kenya

That is just one multinational. Of course Kenyans ran the show in Daegeos operation regionally in East Africa.Majority of these CEOS are gradutes of the University of Nairobi - I few exception like Mahinda (MIT) - Kenyans now are easily the majority of Africa students in Ivy Leagues schools of the USA.

Kenya professionals are sought after because of our high quality of education, hard work & productivity, proffesionalism and our well-spoken English.

Who will hire a lazy, dim-witted, petty and jealous Tanzanian outside Tanzania. In fact if it wasn't for work permit restriction in your country- all those foreign companies of Tanzania would hire kenyans in boatloads.

Kazikazi:
You have more headquarters of international organs but not investments.A country like Rwanda received more foreign investments than kenya in last year.so stay with offices while we deal with bread n butter issues.Tanzania gets more FDI than your kenya

Kikuyu, Forget history for a moment and let talk the economic future of kenya. So I was reading Kenya's Treasury 2018 BROP (Budget Review and OutLook) and here the treasury are projecting that by 2022 our GDP will be 150B dollars. Their projection seems to match my projections.
http://www.treasury.go.ke/component/jdownloads/send/198-2018-2019/1279-draft-2018-budget-review-outlook-paper.html?option=com_jdownloads
I pity our dim-wittted neighbours TZ who are forever playing the catch up game.

Not sure which - but majority of Arabs nations in Africa - either try to speak French (Morocco, Algeria) or English (Egypt). Yes Nairobi and Kenya is magnet because of it well educated english speaking proffesionals.

Nowenuse:
You are right. But not every country is interested in having English as the official language.
Can we really say the use of English is the major attraction of global companies to Kenya compared to TZ? I don't really think so.
TZ is a communist country while Kenya is capitalist, I think this should be one major factor.

I think the Kenyan govt are also doing a purposeful great job in attracting foreign investments.

Most North Africans do not speak English but they attract a whole lot of investments. How conducive an environment is matters the most I think.

In the US and most western world - private business or employment or earnings is not simply not allowed (not even thinkable) for a public servant. In Africa - it huge mess - because there is no such prohibition. The justification is our public servant are not well paid - so they need to suplement their income - but that breed insidious corruption that is hard to tackle - than trying to fix the pay for public servant to be competitive.

Nowenuse:
Thanks for this enlightenment. I always thought western public officers were allowed to run private businesses. I knew about Trump handing over his business to his family members too control, but I never knew he resigned officially.

I also thought he left his business to his family members to run just so he could have more devoted time to his political office.

English is the language of business...and most country are trying to learn it. In Kenya we have kiswahili as national language and English more as the official language. That is why Nairobi attract global companies - and nobody is heading to TZ - except for minning or tourism.

Nowenuse:
Can most Chinese, Japanese, Indonesians, Saudi Arabians, Kazakhs, etc write English?

From what I see, Tanzanians do not value English language. Good for them if they can work with Swahili and make advancements in the language.

In most modern countries that is certainly not allowed. Trump had to resign all his positions to assume office. In Kenya this was not the case until some Ndegwa commission allowed public servant to engage in private business - the lines btw private and public sector to be blurred. Public servants should NOT be allowed to do private business. There will just be a lot of conflicts. Kenya public servants are amongst the continent richest from such conflict of interest and outright corruption.

It very sad that British left us modern systems and procedures - but we had to find out bottom and crawl out.

Nowenuse:
Hmm, in most African countries, public servants have the right to engage in businesses. This is allowed in typical capitalist settings, isn't it?

I think oil had a catalystic effect on Nigeria.Kenya inherited a ethical and functional state that was corrupted by the windfall of wealth abandoned by whites $ asians and later the insane decision to allow public servant to engage in business in 1970s.The seed of political corruption was planted.Kenya have way too many little tribes for the differences to be entrenched.Kenya must make it illegal for any public servant to engage in any business

Nowenuse:
Nigeria's foundational problem is ethno-religious divisions. This led to the Nigerian civil war which destroyed the original workable regional system of government, brought decades of military rule and dumped us into an unworkable system of government.

Kenya's problems are extreme corruption and nothing else.

Bad governance - would denote your political systems was corrupt or dictatorial compared to other countries in Sub-Sahara.

According to World Bank there are six indicators of governance which are Voice and Accountability (VA), Political Stability and Absence of Violence (PSAV), Government’s Effectiveness (GE), Rule of Law (RL), Regulatory Quality (RQ) and Control of Corruptions (CC).

Bad governance doesn't work for TZ. It explain why Nigeria is poor. It also could explain why Kenya is poor. TZ political elite is generally less corrupt & more democratic -"one party state".

TZ is plagued more by POOR LEADERSHIP THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY MADE BAD POLICIES AFTER ANOTHER. TZ leadership right from Nyerere have made plunder after plunders. Now Magufuli is continuing on that legacy.

Whilst kenya super-corrupt leaders care more about the bottom-line of the people (reducing poverty and increasing access to health, nutrition, housing, education and economic opportunities) majority of TZ leaders are given to grand-standing preaching useless rhetoric day (anti-colonialists,equality, communism, exploitation) in day out - something they learnt from Mwalimu Julius Nyerere an ideological demagogue like Kwame Nkrumah!. Ghanaians have to thank Jimmy Rawling from saving them the Tanzania curse - country where people just lazy around talking endlessly!!.

Nobody in TZ cares about facts such as nearly all of them cannot write a sentence in English after 12 years of education.

The 7% growth is happening mostly in mining sector. You can ask Nigeria how far that has taken them. It's not the broad-based economic growth that can lift people out of poverty.

Kazikazi:
I think we should ask what went wrong? In a simple answer: Bad governance.although some signs of developments are seen,there is a huge task ahead.our economy grows by about7% annually although I believe it have to grow by double digits in order to get to where Malaysia or South korea are.

Uganda which is 5 times smaller than Uganda - and that was being led by very unpopular dictator Amin - beat TZ army and had them running - all the way past Kigera river. Amin proceeded to occupy Kigera for 2 months. And then he withdraw. Only for cowardly TZ to mobile all police men, prison guards, and all rebels against Museveni and attack later .

That is why you're ranked lowly by any military ranking out there.

KDF military budget (excluding police) I bet is now even bigger than Nigeria - and of course is bigger than all EAST AFRICA COUNTRIES combined -- you can even add Ethiopia .

We boast one of most well paid, professional, disciplined and educated military in AFRICA. With a small force of only about 20-40K - majority of our army have military degrees, diplomas and are highly regarded as UN Peace Keepers.

Kazikazi:
Tanzania doesnt do things for showing off.we dont like showing all our weapons to the world.thats why Idd amin was shocked to loose a war.remember Libya helped uganda massively but we won.can u do the same? Now check what wikipedia have recorded..the opposite of ur lies.

Terrorist invade the US - and US is the most powerful army. We have dealt with Al shaabab and their threat is now neutralized. Nigeria are still struggling with Boko Haram.Alshaabab is not really a conventional army that we can use KDF for - it's just ragtag terrorist using guerrilla warfare - and now save for small border in Lamu - their threat over and our tourism is kicking arse - TZ was benefit from it but not anymore.

Otherwise PICK any ranking - Kenya Military is RANK the very top in Africa - 4th in Sub-Sahara - after South Africa, Ethiopia and Nigeria.

Tanzani ragtag poorly trained army - get beaten by their equally poorly trained neighbours. Kenya sits next to likes of Sudan, Ethiopia and Somalia who are warlike.

Amin beat TZ army, invaded and occuppied Kagera region for 2 months!!!!!!!!!!!! and only left with AU pleading.

Kazikazi:
Stop being foolish.Al shaabab have entered kenya and managed to capture some soldiers and killed them.Is that a defence which u claim to have? Years have passed without any signs of overpowering those bare footed militias.whom are u fooling here? Do u think those ranking are real just because a white man wrote them? OK now go use these ranking to win a war in somalia!go use rankings! Poor kiberan.

It's very booring day so let me engage our slow and lazy brother from Ujamaa Danganyika.

The role of the Defence Force is to be deterrent so much nobody can dare invade. Your fake army was invaded by Amin and whole province carved out. KDF neighbours are fearful of invading kenya. Only Somali - both gov and quasi - have tried to start war using "proxies" and have lost badly each time.

Think about that - Amin actually annexed huge part of Tanzania Kagera region . Amin beat TZ army who had to retreat, plead for AU to save them, and after 2 months Amin decided to withdraw - only for TZ to re-attack with Uganda rebels - just to claim victory
http://www.monitor.co.ug/Magazines/PeoplePower/Uganda-annexes-Tanzanian-territory-after-Kagera-Bridge-victory/689844-3162012-1laywm/index.html

Quick google search on strongest armies in Africa.

10 African Countries With the Highest Military Strength and Fire...
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SOUTH AFRICA. Republic of South Africa, is an African country located at the southern tip of the continent. ...
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EGYPT

Kazikazi:
Which war did KDF ever won?

Kenya has never defaulted like Tanzania nor has it ever had it's debt forgiven like you Tanzania and Nigerias. The worst that Kenya has ever done is reschedule debt. We are not about to default.

Comparing Kenya and TZ is really stupid. Dar right now is doing 16M tonnes per annum.Mombasa is about twice that - nearly 32M metric tonnes.

SGR Kenya is already on 8 daily cargo trains with double stacking now starting and 2 passenger trains -making 4 trips. Based on projection done by Chinese - we should still be one 1 train.

TZ SGR is at infancy - and you're doing it - not because you've thought about it deeply - but to compete with Kenya - which is why you're taking Ethiopia route - class B railway that is electrified. Look at Ethiopia now - their rail is stalling mid-way and they are still one one - train to Djiboutti. Ethiopia has surplus electricity - Tanzania without electrified train are facing blackout due to rationing of power.

Kazikazi:
Just keep on talking.anyway talk is cheap.Do u know mombasa port is about to been taken by chinese? Your Jubelee gov placed it as a collateral when the borrowed recklessly! Keep talking dude..

I lean more to the border region btw Ethiopia, Sudan and Egypt.

Hati13:
I didn’t said Oromo and Somali were present in Kush. When I say KUSH PERIOD, I’m not connecting them with Kush but just referring the time.

Cushitic origin was in Ethiopia and none of them migrated from Egypt/Sudan to Ethiopia.

Many traditions, cultures, etc are shared. I'd put the difference btw groups to language. An ethnic group is defined by it's language.

mtisTheQubit:
So if not the genes then whats makes up a tribe…

Is it Locality coz Kenya's Kamba (Akamba) doea not look like Kamba Cuá Cua population of Paraguay, South America even though they are kambas.

Is it appearance…Observing the Nandi and Kipsigis sub tribes they do not look alike.The Kipsigis look almost like bantus while Nandis look like Nilotes but they are Kalenjins.

Is it Language…Merus or even Kambas need not be taught Kikuyu language to understand it yet they are not Kikuyus while some Luhya (Abaluyia or Luyia) sub-tribes cannot converse well with each other but they all called Luhyas.

The list may be long but ya got what am trying to say…For me the traditions of our ancestors whether is taboos or folk tales or other stuff we learn that bind us together might qualify more when classifying tribes in Africa (The stuff you refuse to acknowledge Mr rvp2018 )

Note:
In a way I got issue with the bolded..It might be true but I think the size of sampling data used is a little bit low..
“ A Y-chromosome study by Wood et al. (2005) tested various populations in Africa for paternal lineages, including 26 Maasai and 9 Luo from Kenya, and 9 Alur from the Democratic Republic of Congo. The signature Nilotic paternal marker Haplogroup A3b2 was observed in 27% of the Maasai, 22% of the Alur, and 11% of the Luo.””

Linguistic evidence suggest proto-oromo and proto-somalis split around 2,500-3,000 yrs (nearly about the same time proto-bantus were splitting and dispersing from Cameroon). It therefore is very unlikely there were present in Kush - the empire. Both Somalis & Oromos really have no history of kings & kingdoms.Therefore they may have emigrated from Kushite homeland of confluence of Sudan -Egypt-Ethiopia way before ancient kingdoms of Egypt, Nubia and Ethiopia were established..

Hati13:
Oromo were separate of Somali during Kush period. Cushite were diversified ppl during Kush time. Cushite are one of the oldest group in the world.

People imagine Oromo and Somali when they think about Cushite but Agew are more important than them.

Nope. I can give you example of Maasai or Kalenjin. The majority of men carries Cushitic Y chromosomes while the majority of women carries Nilotic mt-dna. And yet Maasai & Kalenjin are nilotic, in Culture, and in Language. Why is that - it possible that cushitic men married nilotic women and were kicked out main cushitic folk.What make an ethnic group is a lot more than Y chromosomes - it is their language, the culture, the history, the y & x chromosomes. Language has it's genetics - we are able to identify cognate words - and loan words - which is why the advance of genetics has only confirmed what was known 200yrs ago by Linguistist.

mtisTheQubit:
What make a tribe or ethnic group is Y chromosome, passed exclusively from father to son...

What make a tribe or ethnic group is the core - not the admixtures. When we are talking kikuyus - we don not talk about random guy we measured who is half kikuyu and half chinese - we consider the majority - the core - and that core is bantu - in genetics, in language and history. Human or any species taxanomy is hierarchical coz it based on biology of cell splitting to form a new cell - which has attributes of parent cells - mother & father for human - which are all carried in dna. Of course human relationship are a network - you're free to mate with chinese - and bring fort a kikuyu-chinese - and if majority of kikuyus were to do that - they'd bring forth a new tribe of Kikuyu-Chinese.

https://i58.tinypic.com/2zog66b.png

kikuyu1:
Exactly! Human relationships aren't as linear as we like to insist. Which is why language and ethnic groups aren't concrete human divisions. Kevomtaani,has already shown us a high Somali DNA count in his supposedly Kikuyu ancestry. Here's yet another Kikuyu with 27% Somali,12 % Naij ,3.6% Sierra Leone and O.9% Chinese -HOW AND WHY!!??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKz-jv3YPA

I think at time of Kush civilization there was no oromo - there were proto-cushite - and Oromo & Somalis had not split into seperate tribes - they would emigrate as proto-eastern/southern cushites and later split in region of Ethiopia/Kenya/Somalia.

Hati13:
Wenedem, it isn’t politics or hating but Oromo weren’t part of Kush civilization (at least until strong evidence is found). Maybe I may be wrong by saying that Oromo had nothing to do with Kush. They might had some connection. But saying Oromo were part of Kush civilization just because of recent centuries old literatures seems unconvincing.

I checked few of Dr. Megalommatis works few weeks ago. He seems extremists with OLF agenda.

This I suspect is beyond your paygrade. Concentrate on oral history from African tribes. Khoisan have neaderthetal genes that are alien in Africa.That can only mean they came back to Africa either from Europe or Asia...some thousands years ago. They also have Denivisan which is only present in Asians.

TayserMahiri:
What a disingenuous job you're doing misinforming people. If something is not your forte please dont force it and dont make things up. What the hell?

Khoisan are related to other Africans and largely so from the San end. Remember Khoisan is an amalgamation of two ancient tribes, the Khoikhoi and the Sans. They must have told you that in History.

This is the story from DNA.



One last thing, humanity's relationship is not hierarchical as you claim. Its a Network! The relationship between Khoisans and other people, for example, is not ladder-like. You are doing terrible injustice to knowledge.

There is nothing conclusive - this is history - but we go with most compelling evidence - and history get revised with new evidence. You need more than oral history though - because now we've got genetics of plants, animals & people have really studied languages, climates, and dug up deserts & forests - and discovered lots of stuff - that continue to buttress these theories - not by white man - but by brilliant scientist.

mtisTheQubit:
Ok boss ya cut to me as a fellow who have read lot of books. That all good but..have got my buts

I am just helping your with condensed history - based on evidence and facts - not idiotic oral histories - do you think unschooled Africa has a concept of North or South - which are scientific construct that are as old as compass - so when you come and say Merus or I don't know who claim to come from Misri or North - you're just parroting child stories like Genesis in the Bible?

So let me help you again.

At the time the start of bible - we are talking about 6,000 yrs ago. At that time - the Bantus did not exist - neither did the Jew exist. That period based on science - proto-current africans - most likely lived together as one tribe - speaking one language - most likely settled either in 3 or 4 areas - Lake Chad (huge basin that occupied 10% of Africa), Nile basin (extending from Sudan to Egypt to Ethiopia) or the Levant(middle east -Mesopotamia basin- Syria-Iraq) - as sedentary farmers. The rest of Africa was populated by small bands of Khoi-sans - the aboriginals - who are west asians based on dna.

The bantus existed around 4,000-3,000 yrs ago as seperate people and language - most likely in Cameroon - meaning they most likely moved south from Lake Chad or Nile Basin - still as farmers. They would disperse - and keep differentiating - into the current tribes. The Nilo-saharans and Afro-asiatic would adopt pastoralism with desertification - and similarly disperse mostly north and east wards. They would be seperated from Bantus by sahara desert belt and tse tse fly belt.

You can say for example kikuyu is closely related to Merus - then to Kambas - then Chaggas & Sukumas - then Hutus/Kongos - then Igbo/Yoruba - then to pre-bantu/proto-bantu - then to Jew/Nilote/Berber/Somali - then older humans - all stretching to about 200,000 yrs!! - then you start jumping to chimpanzees and monkeys as your cousins - and eventually to bacteria as greater cousin - and single celled Amoeba about a billion years as probably your ancestor as a living thing.

mtisTheQubit:
boss we are debating on Bantu migration not the bible...so question why do you dismiss our African folk tales of our ancestors with no scientific proof ..

Let me repeat that again - the Bible is semitic oral history only believable by small kids. It's akin to stories you hear about Maasai descending from heaven with a dog or something as inane as that. The bible starts as collection of very old oral history of semites (in this case the hebrews) then proceed to the "modern" recorded history about 2,000 yrs ago under the roman empire (christianity - which jew reject) or Islam (arabic copy paste).

Rain induced flooding legends was common legend - around Lake Chad - and Jews at that time - most likely lived in Lake Chad basin together with proto-bantus, proto-nilotes, proto-cushites etc.

mtisTheQubit:
Boss please calm ya tities..like one would say… lets please stick to science stuff not personal emotions …

You need to really study history. I am talking you going from 100yrs to 1,000yrs to 10,000yrs to 20,000 yrs. The bible is semitic story - the semites are afro-asiatic - who either lived in Africa or Middle East - obviously using just common sense it appears they lived in Africa - because 5 out of 6 of Afro-asiatic live in Africa. The old testament - genesis and all those five books - is collection of old semitic stories - about their origin - more like your oral history passed generation from generation -

mtisTheQubit:
Ok msee ya made my day...

Scientist or academicians are not "white dudes". The rigors of research and science would eliminate such bias. And those researchers still consider oral histories - as a source but ultimately majority if not all of Africa oral history is only believable by small kids. Just like the bible is only believable by really stupid people.

mtisTheQubit:
Question why do you guys think the white dude have the clear understanding on the subject…Thats the problem with Africans. We don’t believe ourselves (an got nothing to do with science)..look white dude comes n tell you where ya all come from then believe it 100 % then rubbish the folk tales of our ancestors coz this is 21st century n the white guy is always correct….Funny thing some of the called proof got no scientific backing….please wake up and smell the coffee

I am talking about old testament pre-exodus; Genesis, Noah flooding (actually Lake Chad flooding) and the likes were old stories copied from Africa.Majority of the bible of coz is recent history 2,000 that centers around the Jews.

mtisTheQubit:
Lemme guess all those names used in Old Testament were in Africa. So Syria, Palestine , Canaan, Sinai in Africa. Look boss you know that’s just a lie

I think you havent studied the subject matter deeply.The relationship btw niger-congo with bantus as a example with nilo saharan with nilotes as example is solidifying to extend its now thought niger-congo is actually a branch of nilo-sahara.The afro asiatic is also related except maybe for semites where a branch has levant origin..arabs $ jew..otherwise the Chadic afro-asiatic are closely related to east Africa cushites despite living 2000kms away from each other.Africa origin of Afro-Asiatic points to Chad..only one branch of (semite) dont mostly live in Africa - the rest of 4 branches have always lived in Africa - and yet all Afro-Asiatic would love nothing more than Middle-eastern/Levant origin. In summary there is compelling evidence from language, genetics and history that point to Lake Chad basin as homeland of all modern day Africans except the Khoisans. The Khoisan have West Eurasian ancestors - and you can see with their facial features - squinted eyes, small bodies and etc.I know for religious and other reasons all Africans would love to associate with middle east semites (arabic & hebrew jew) - but they'd be very surprised to know the old testament was actually written stories from Lake Chad.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/African_language_families_en.svg/290px-African_language_families_en.svg.png

Lake Chad now is a very small lake - most of it covered by desert- but it's Africa biggest basin - and with Nile basin - most of modern day Africans (Niger-Congo, Nilo-Sahara & Afro-Asiatic) most likely traces their origin there - before they split. Maybe the semites belong to Levant - mesopotamia basin - but certainly majority of the rest of Afro-Asiatic - chadic (Hausa), berbers, cushites (somalis, oromos) are african.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Chad_River_Basin_relief_2.png/260px-Chad_River_Basin_relief_2.png

Hati13:
Every human are related but the question is how recent? The relation between Bantu, Niolte and Cushite wasn’t recent as you assume. I don’t know where you get the information that Bantu, Niolte, Cushite and Semite had common origin and that was in Chad.

Pre-Cushite and pre-Semite split from Afroasiatic speakers and the latter had no direct relation with Bantu and Nilote (at least most of them). Pre-Bantu and pre-Niolte had also no direct relation with eachother.

Khoisan are related with Africans (not all but some). For example, before the Bantu expansion into East Africa there was a strong connection between them and Ethiopians (genetically).

Youre describing the nilotes, cushites and bantus using linguistic grouping..not proto or pre..who are most definitely related both genetically and linguistically...say compared to Asians or Europeans.All of them carry halogroup A and B of the y chromosomes.The bantu or nilotic or cushitic or semitic language are also closely related.The most convincing theory point to Chad when it wasnt a desert as homeland of the combined ancestor of nilotes, cushites, semites and bantus..as Chad became a desert they dispersed with bantu moving south $ west..nilotes to sudan..cushites further east and semites north.The khoisan are NOT related with Africans but more linked to Asians.The relationship is hierarchical.The same way proto oromos and proto somalis were one people before they became oromo $ somalis.Humans were once localised before spreading into races, tribes and such.

Hati13:
Proto-Bantu, proto-Nilote and proto-Cushite weren’t one ppl.

Proto-Bantu were part of Niger-Congo. The latter originated in West Africa.

Proto-Niolte were part of Nilo-Saharan. The latter originated in Sudan or central Africa.

Proto-Cushite were part of Afroasiatic. The latter originated in Ethiopia.

So they went north and disappeared into mummies.Well there is no denying that proto-bantus, proto-nilotes and proto-cushites are related..they definitely were one people who possibly split up in Chad..

TayserMahiri:
There is a lot of genetic analysis of Egyptian mummies and Kings showing direct links. Do some reading.

Right make that 4b..very long time indeed

TayserMahiri:
Well, the world is not that old my dude. Even the universe itself.