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Nairobi Metro - Athi river - lies about 20Kms from Nairobi - this also one of Nairobi industrial and bedroom with many residential estates Athi river estates - for middle class https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCLs5BvXoAIjyq0.jpg https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/files/2017/09/SUPERIOR-HOMES.jpg https://www.firstavenueproperties.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Green-Park-Supper-Bungalow-1.jpg https://constructionreviewonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/greenpark-estate.jpg Athi river has flats - for lower middle class https://i2.wp.com/www.horiconengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/gwp3-2.jpg?fit=960%2C640 |
Nairobi Metro -Kitengala - Kitengal lies about 30km south of Nairobi - bordered by Nairobi National Park- and has grown to be one of Nairobi's main bedrooms. Kitengela CBD. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Kitengela.jpg/1920px-Kitengela.jpg Kitengela estates https://scontent.fmba1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36961106_1443029905798863_8772576517189271552_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c143b2acc2d6371f3af8f9587ccba309&oe=5B9FE79B https://scontent.fmba1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37078088_1443030699132117_3074703337006825472_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=db16a869715ed4b28c0fa98b7ca357c8&oe=5BDA1088 https://i.imgur.com/ZBktaeJh.jpg |
Nairobi Metro - Nairobi extends into at least four counties - Kiambu,Machakos,Kajiado & Muranga - some towns that are now part of Nairobi include Thika, Juja, Ruiru, Kiambu, Ruarak, Limuru, Ngong, Rongai, Kitengela, Kajiado, Athi River, Ruai, Mavoko, Syokimau, Tala, even Machakos town all the way to Konza & Tatu- upcoming cities that don't lie within Nairobi. Let start with big one - Thika town - connected by Thika-Nairobi super-highway - Thika lies about 40km north east of Nairobi. Thika CBD - Nairobi urban sprawl spread beyond Thika - all the way now to Muranga's Kenol. https://www.samrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/ThikaRoad0204b.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCXLfZdXoAAi0FS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NyEmjith.jpg Thika is home to Mt Kenya university - one of Africa's largest private universities now - that was started about 15yrs ago and has branches now in many countries. Mt kenya university in Thika [img]https://4.bp..com/-gbeW77n0ODc/W1L-zPJTo8I/AAAAAAAAKb0/I-KOas1ijiwpttH6LTaFNUa8FXoX4sICgCLcBGAs/s640/1.jpg[/img] [img]https://3.bp..com/-gQUunNBCZRI/Wy5vBakWB_I/AAAAAAAAJ5k/HTxXNuiWiScH7YMznLCzR9RAAL8UyRcqgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20170707_080752.jpg[/img] [img]https://4.bp..com/-pXUqxzs8bt0/V2U1lEZjGII/AAAAAAAAJR0/bj_OrOHcgSsosh4OzUpoevbJ6bz98xFLgCLcB/s1600/Presentation1.jpg[/img] Thika suburbs have some world class estates and house including Migaa, Thika greens, kurahia and many more. https://i.imgur.com/ABOYgKnh.jpg |
We've been thro this several times. Kenya is a UNITARY republic - with a devolved gov - where counties are NOT ALLOWED to levy taxes. Nigeria is a federal gov - with each state allowed to levy taxes. Don't compare our counties with your states. Lagos collect 1B as a state. Nairobi collect 300M as a county - from just business licensing/parking/property rates - Lagos collect taxes and has a tax authority - just like all the other 36 states. One example in Nigeria- The VAT Act, which is a Federal law, imposes tax at 5% on supply of goods and services in Nigeria while the Sales Tax Law, a Lagos State law, imposes tax at 5% on sale of goods and services in Lagos State. Now if Nairobi was allowed to levy 5% VAT ; ohoo boy; Nairobi would rake lots of billions dollars. Nairobi account for anything btw 30-50% of Kenya taxes - . VAT contributes about 25% of nearly 15-17B dollars of taxes now - that is around 4B dollars - with Nairobi taking at least 1.5B dollars - with max of 2B dollars. Lagos cannot compete with Nairobi. Nairobi is competing with likes of Joburg. Danielnino00: |
Nairobi about 20yrs ago - with only One CBD. There was just one tower in Upper hill. None in westland. https://house.jumia.co.ke/journal/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/City.jpg |
In Nairobi - 10 to 20 nigerians are cramming themselves in 10 feet room - sleeping in turns. How do you intend to do all that when you cannot afford to live decently. Slaveryisgood: |
Be your own master first. After 50 yrs of Royal Shell stealing all your oil - you still haven't figured out how to start a big oil company? Nearly every decent country has their own. Kenya we got National Oil - that will be key plank of our oil industry. Nigeria is only country still colonized by White Oil companies. You don't even know how much oil is produced off-shore and shipped out. Slaveryisgood: |
Typical foul-mouthed angry Nigeria. It tough when you have to endure endless black outs, crazy traffic, hawkers and extreme poverty!!! https://www.nation.co.ke/news/The-hotel-that-Michuki-built-/1056-1335236-knvhfjz/index.html https://images.trvl-media.com/hotels/1000000/10000/4300/4226/4226_9_z.jpg Slavesmustdie: |
Windsor is owned by Kenya - the late Michuki and patronized by Kenyans. Black if their colour so matter to you. Slaveryisgood: |
PRISM is truly iconic◇quote author=gallivant post=70973351]Nairobi https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1872/30571129778_8f6fba22e3_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1851/42630652100_e4a73d73b4_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1859/44440068011_0a1b3e8b76_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1872/42630772320_2c4eb5dbf5_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1863/44440063611_ab0ff76332_b.jpg[/quote] |
Open air market operating at 3pm without electricity compared to many 24hrs malls in kenya.We aŕe debating formal retail with informal trade.These nigerians are crazy.Just admit kenya has a more advanced retail $ wholesale sector..and we can move to other issues. |
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We have no oil.no gas.no gold.no diamond.no mineral.We are 80% semi arid and arid.we have made 10% of land count.Our agriculture is world class for most part.We also work hard, cooperate and are very progressive.That is how we have made..that kenyan pride..working hard. working smartly.We are extremely proud of that..and cant take shiiet from criminally minded naijas or lazy tzs.We respect and adore progress.There is no doubt we are africa largest non mineral economy and are aiming at south africa with incredible minning industry.We are focusing in quality education and letting the chips fall in place obaaderemi: |
Nairobi Greater Metro is one contiguous built(urban) area. The Nairobi Metro ministry & now authority job is to harmonize and develop the metro as one. Obviously for political reason they will always remain different counties. But for urban argument sake - Nairobi Greater Metro - is one - and unless someone was to point a boundary - you'll will NOT know if you're in Kajiado or Kiambu - from Nairobi. I have no problem with say Lagos or Abuja metro - just demonstrate - it's a metro. Every big city has a metro. London has one. But you cannot randomly or arbitrarily pick a state like Niger and call is ABUJA Metro. Nairobi Greater Metro exist - it doesn't cover the entire of those counties - but who knows - the way Nairobi is sprawling it may soon. Right now it cover about half of those counties. 68816419: |
Nairobi Greater Metro is one contiguous built(urban) area. The Nairobi Metro ministry & now authority job is to harmonize and develop the metro as one. Obviously for political reason they will always remain different counties. But for urban argument sake - Nairobi Greater Metro - is one - and unless someone was to point a boundary - you'll know if you're in Kajiado or Kiambu - from Nairobi. I have no problem with say Lagos or Abuja metro - just demonstrate - it's a metro. Every big city has a metro. London has one. But you cannot randomly pick a state like Niger and call is ABUJA Metro. 68816419: |
Yes only Dangote - after running a monopoly with military generals of the north - has operations in Africa - in kenya - nearly every big company in whatever sector - has operations most definitely in 5+1 east africa countries and few beyond. Only South Africa can boast of such DEPTH. Just wait for us in Abuja - We will be there shortly - we are negotiating the thick forest of Congo . Kenya Airways & others - Obviously flew above Congo forest and is happy to for your business . Obviously Kenya Airways has operations world-wide - something no Nigeria company can boast of ![]() And those are just few companies - the depth & breadth of our private sector is second only to SOUTH AFRICA. 68816419: |
Yes - Nairobi Metro include Kajiado, Kiambu , Machakos and part of Muranga - nearly half of Kajiado is now built up or being built up. There are many Nigerian living in Kajiado - Kitengela, Rongai, Ngong - all the way to Kajiado town. Kajiado is technically the bedroom of Nairobi. I am not sure why you wnat to include all those states - in Nairaland post - but Nairobi Metro is enacted in law and there was a ministry for that - now it's deparment. Nairobi Greater Metro is real. Your own creation is not real. http://projects.worldbank.org/P107314/nairobi-metropolitan-services-improvement-project?lang=en 68816419: |
Are we going to be doing this every couple pages. Nearly half of our banks have invested in Uganda,Tanzania,Rwanda,South Sudan, Burundi & now Congo. Majority (bar very few) of all our companies across all sectors have investment including in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, Mozambique, Congo and the 5 East Africa countries+South Sudan. A few have invested as far west as Nigeria. The only impossible place to trade has been horn of africa - with closed economy of Ethiopia and war in Somalia - but Ethiopia opening up - we shall be de-flowering that communist backwater with very little private sector. And with AFTEC - West Africa better be ready to compete with nimble kenyan companies. Kenya has been the main source of FDI (investment by our private sector) to east africa for nearly 20 decades - since circa 2000! Name any sector - banking, insurance, media, hotels, advertising, manufacturing, heck even NGOS etc - and our companies have operations across east, some southern, north and west africa.I can give you one example of kenya company that has investment all over the world - Kenya Re-Insurance - operates in Africa, Middle east and Asia - where it operates in 170 companies over 47 countries. Many countries are now starting to wake up to re-insurance business - but Kenya-Re was for a long time competing only with PTA RE and one more RE - for re-insurance business in Africa ![]() Kenya Reinsurance Corporation will next week formally open an office in Zambia. This is part of a plan to tap into the Southern Africa market. The firm is particularly targeting Mozambique, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia and Angola. The Kenyan re-insurer already has a foothold in West Africa, where it has offices in Nigeria and Ghana, as well as in Asia where it operates in India and Nepal Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000222145/kenya-re-enters-southern-africa-market Daejoyoung: |
Kenya has more home-grown multinationals than nigeria - you can count yours in one hand but kenya list of companies that invest in east,central & southern africa - even now west africa -are too many for your limbs. Second fact kenya(50B) has less debt than Nigeria(70B) - and has more ability to repay(revenues).We are spending about 27% of our revenue to repay debt. That is very healthy. Start thinking INTEREST PAYMENT VERSUS REVENUE - and you'll know you're more indebted than Kenya. GDP is nothing if it's cooked. Here is WB saying Nigeria debt is not sustainable - coz your revenues are now officially less than kenya . You don't have money in the bank to repay loan.https://punchng.com/interest-on-nigerias-debt-not-sustainable-by-revenues-wbank/ Although Nigeria’s total current debt is relatively low compared to the Gross Domestic Product, the interest rate payment is not sustainable by current revenues, the World Bank has said. 68816419: |
How is that not logical. 2/3 of Kenya is semi-arid that carries 10% of the population. 30% of population is urban - small area. The other 60% are in the arable 20% of the land. So yes as we speak now - 5m(10%) people live in 400,000 sqkms - about 2/3 of kenya land mass. Nairobi city has always carried 10% of our population. The Nairobi Greater Metro has about double that(20%). 68816419: |
Type Nairobi Greater Metro into google and you'll get the results. Nairobi county is equal to old Nairobi district. It technically exclude even JKIA - the main airport - and many places you see here. Yes Nairobi Metro is huge - Nairobi city alone is 4M - Metro is double that - and we will find out next year when we conduct credible census - not Lagos kind of census - where 8-10M people are counted - and the state turned around to count their own 21M What is real Lagos population for example Is it what was actually counted in census - or what state l[s]ater estimated so they can claim more federal allocation from Abuja oil money. The excuse you hear is that Lagosian left for their villages during cen[/s]sus ![]() Built up area and population - are stuff that can be easily resolves with google map and some few tools. I remain skeptical of any NIGERIA DATA. In the 2006 federal census data, LAGOS had a population of about 8 million people - which the state disputed and estimated their own 20M 68816419: |
Everywhere malls are seen as development except in Nigeria where street hawking and hustling is seen as development. You are not collecting taxes because of hawking. Do you know one mall - monthly sales - can cross billions of Naira!!! This branch of Carrefour in six month - made total sales equivalent to 5B naira!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The HUB Karen https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/saturday/french26.jpg https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/image/view/-/4273084/medRes/1741561/-/maxw/960/-/12ny85u/-/carrefour.jpg https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Carrefour-Karen-outlet-hits-Sh1-5bn-in-revenue/4003102-4273076-82vn1yz/index.html Daejoyoung: |
You need to do more than type - interpret the results. And if you really insist - you can open google maps - look for Nairobi and Abuja - and find tools that can calculate built up areas. Nairobi city that you see - is Nairobi district - of 1963 - Nairobi Metro extends into 4 more districts - and built up area in Nairobi City is now well into more than half. So I can tell you for free - the built up area of Nairobi Metro is anything more than 15,000 SQKms. Naiorbi Metro has now 8-10M people. Not cooked Lagos type. But real people. Nairobi metro can be compared with Lagos metro - but I think Nairobi metro will beat Lagos. 68816419: |
Stop lying; The ROck cannot be that big. ABUJA - according to wikipedia. Area[1] • Municipality 1,769 km2 (683 sq mi) • Land 1,728 km2 (667 sq mi) • Water 41 km2 (16 sq mi) • Urban 713 km2 (275 sq mi) Nairobi:The Greater Nairobi Metropolitan Region covers 11,734 square miles (30,390 square kilometers). Nairobi County [city] covers 690Kmsq...but built up area extend towards a large metro...that is even bigger than LAGOS...if my googling is right. Try Mombasa city - and your Abuja Aso Rock will still struggle - maybe Nakuru or Kisumu or Eldoret is your mate.68816419: |
The usual Nigeria lame excuses. We only really serve Uganda - the rest have very small traffic - and we compete with laggard Tanzania Darsallem port -- Mombasa city https://i.imgur.com/NvovDPX.jpg?1 https://farm1.staticflickr.com/672/23271577066_8c1b88b273_c.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J4qv2EQP3SY/Vn-XSo4ki8I/AAAAAAAAA3I/88PWCwIYpTw/s770-Ic42/Central%252520Business%252520District%25252C%252520Mombasa.jpeg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L1av_GB_F2Q/Vn-XT8MeY8I/AAAAAAAAA3U/qR-3xANE56Q/s770-Ic42/Nyali%252520Bridge_2.jpeg Daejoyoung: |
Mombasa City - Kenya port & tourist city - mombasa port is now 4th busiest port in Africa - and one of the most efficient (after Durban I think). Abuja - the dead city in the rock - aim for Mombasa first - Nairobi is on another level - Multinational HQ of Africa.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn4GUiEW8AAanzY.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrrREHTWYAANkK2.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8521/29690982362_d75f158193_b.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlHGJAoW4AAWA7s.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1858/43265917405_52fd0c977a_b.jpg https://i.imgur.com/mT2Zp0f.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EPIz5vn.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4YM-RCXUAAJ2z7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/klUAASb.png https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4286/35095183465_8e8aaed8a8_b.jpg https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5490/29690042000_93019e069d_b.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqFplCMXEAA011u.jpg |
What make you think Nairobi is small - Nairobi city - without metro is huge - if we include the metro - then I bet it can even beat Lagos. Let your Abuja aim for Mombasa - maybe in 50yrs - first before it try the London of Africa - aka - NAIROBI. 68816419: |
You've got jokes. Abuja richest in terms of cashflow what is that suppose to mean. Nairobi City - the whole city is more advanced than LEGCO city Abuja - where you get 1% of Nairobi being developed - I don't know.If Lagos cannot compete with Nairobi - how would Abuja even attempt? Nairobi in my view is 3rd after Joburg and Capetown in Sub Sahara Africa. Abuja the federal office of gov - CANNOT EVEN COMPETE with Mombasa - 2nd biggest city of Kenya 68816419: |
95% of Nairobi more good looking than most of Nigeria cities. Only 5% of landmass is occuppied by slums - alongs road reserves/valleys/forests - Nairobi has 3 main CBDS - and other mini-cbds - the whole city was planned. ABUJA - the artificial city with no life outside federal gov - that Abacha built in hurry to avoid another coup . You should have used that money to improve Lagos and all the other cities.Now seriously outside federal gov and maybe embassy - what is there in Abuja ![]() 68816419: |
Lagos may catch up with Nairobi -Nairobi re-generation team has demolished multi-billion dollar investments that encroached on rivers or roads- including 3 malls - South End Mall, Taj Mall and UKAY Center.This was one big mall - worth 20M dollars - now it's gone https://classic105.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/southend-mall-3-1024x565.jpg https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1855/43536594955_d336e7a84a_b.jpg UKAY CENTER - gone - 10M dollars https://www.explore254.com/wp-content/sabai/File/files/l_3f506048c09bad6e790fa9268acff8b4.jpg Kenya now famous destroyer- SANY - bringing them down [img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSc1tqdZl78NwFQJss2JzIWq7reurOUYWap-q7zHJxAD97I-_Yy[/img] https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/wednesday/cnspwhgdwr9j3h9h5h5b6b4a846fb22.jpg Taj Mall [AIR GATE] -50M dollars - is also going down for encroaching on road reserve. https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/thursday/thumb_tix5feruxmhyx7r5a610933d15ca.jpg https://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/articles/2016/05/09/1347069.jpg?itok=As4q0RiO |
The Lion - Kenya national symbol - looks over Upper hill - from Nairobi National Park (the only park within a city in the world) https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2908/33008736544_8d2bdddd05_b.jpg |
Nairobi West - towards Wilson Airport (domestic flights) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmiGEMeXEAEIfts.jpg Karen -named after famous Karen Blixen (Out of Africa) - the mini sweden. https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2866/33784682891_5d80c8d488_b.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdwmUt-VAAE9PGo.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdwmVAZUAAARzRt.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdwmVJIUUAA7bbu.jpg |
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. Nigerians own everything in Nigeria while everything in Kenya is owned by foreigners including us your new masters. We are going to turn your gullible sisters to sex slaves and you to house boys . Stupid nation.
- We will be there shortly - we are negotiating the thick forest of Congo