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The lamiest excuse - when you control 2% of world oil - when your export 2M barrels of oil daily. When you have 40% of Arable Land in country twice the size of semi-arid and arid Kenya. It MIND-BOGGLING. Let not talk about natural gas, iron ore and other minerals that Nigeria has. I tell you Nigeria, DRC and Tanzania are special kind of STUPID. I'd rank Nigeria slightly better, followed by Tanzania but DRC is obviously the worst of the worst.

kikuyu1:
Truly,inexplicable;a natural mystery with all that arable land and numerous giant rivers but then ofc it must be the population cause as we've been told many many times,large nations are more difficult to manage than small ones.
Quick! Someone post up Brazil and India.

Just like hunger that your deny - your poor education shines throu . You're perhaps the best to emerge from TZ really pathetic education system - 99% of your O-level leavers cannot string a sentence in English.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201805070133.html
EDUCATION SYSTEM

His hard hitting sentiment comes just a week after he dismissed as a non-issue the question of many Tanzanian students completing their O Level education without the ability to communicate effectively in English.

President Magufuli made the remarks while sharing his views on the Tanzanian education system at University of Mkwawa in Iringa.

"We shouldn't feel inferior of our education system, just because someone is done with his Form 4 and can't speak or write a letter in English. Who said being learned is mastering the English language? The Chinese don't speak English but they manufacture the most deadly weapons in the world. So are the Russians, the Germans, the French," Magufuli said.

Let try reputable news - Just a year ago
https://www.reuters.com/article/tanzania-hunger-idUSL5N1GJ5CP
Most Tanzanians have experienced hunger in the past three months, with food shortages most severe in drought-hit rural areas, a countrywide survey found, despite government denials of a food crisis.

The survey by Tanzanian think tank Twaweza found that 78 percent of people had suffered food shortages in the past three months. In rural areas the figure rose to 84 percent compared to 64 percent in cities.

The findings came despite repeated government denials that the East African country was suffering food shortages. President John Magufuli has accused opposition politicians of fomenting a “fake” hunger crisis.

Kazikazi:
You who make sense just tell me are Tanzanians eating dog food? Kenya is a big shame? Dog food? Whats wrong with u kenyans?

I trust scientific evidence. I know with you poor education -this is beyond your paygrade. Newspapers can spin anything. Our media is free to air anything unlike yours which is under serious gov control.

There has never been a famine in kenya since I think 1984 - famine is where someone starve to death - there is very regular drought because Kenya lies in sahara desertification zone --- but last time people died of hunger was somewhere in Ethiopia.

Kazikazi:
if u trust those ranking why is kenya this way?

Okay, if you didn't like FAO food security & nutrition data, let try Global HUNGER index. Global hunger index is designed to comprehensively measure and track hunger globally and by country and region. Calculated each year by the International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI).

http://www.globalhungerindex.org/results-2017/

GHI has been collected for years;1992,2000,2008,2017

Kenya as of 2017 is ranked 70 out 119 countries. Only South Africa & Ghana rank better than us in sub-Sahara Africa. You can see GHANA is always up there as one of Africa most progressive nations - together with Kenya and South Africa.

Tanzania - with arable land comparable to Nigeria & DRC - is ranked 97 - with Nigeria ranked at 84.

Kenya that is mostly semi-arid and arid (80%) - has consistently reduce the % of it's hungry people -
Kenya - 1992(39.1), 200(37.6),2008(29.6),2017(21.0)
Tanzania - 1992(42.9),2000(42.4), 2008(33.0),2017(28.

You can see the trend and acknowledge that our hardworking people - the majestic people of kenya - who live in land that can be 80% be described as barren - are fighting hunger - and next time Global Hunger Index will be compiled - we will be with South Africa - with about 10% of our people hungry.And by then TZ beggars would have overrun our country.

The solution for TZ hunger is simple. Open up you land for foreign ownership, let kenyans come and grow food for you. Not just maize and beans.

Kazikazi:
malnutrition is not caused by lack of food.but rather it is lack of balanced diet.Tanzania dont lack food.but kenya do.no one dies for the lack of food in tz.but kenyans dies for lack of food.malnutrition isnt hunger.

Very shocking. If you consider they have million of hectares of arable land. But it's not shocking if you know - how lazy the communist are.

mtis:
Stunting currently affects 42 per cent of under five children, and is only a two percentage points lower than it was five years ago. The burden of stunting in Tanzania ranks third in Sub-Saharan Africa, after Ethiopia and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Child underweight (16 percent) also remains at unacceptable levels, and the country is not on track to achieve the MDG 1 target to reduce underweight by one-half by the year 2015. There are pockets of very high acute malnutrition, including Zanzibar where 12 per cent of children are affected. About one third of children age 6-59 months are iron deficient and vitamin A deficient, 69 percent are anaemic, and over 18 million Tanzanians do not consume adequately iodized salt.

KaziKazi,
While on the same FAO AFRICA FOOD SECURITY & NUTRITION 2017 Report....please read this.

Progress is monitored through six, interlinked, global nutrition targets for 2025:
• Reduce by 40 percent the number
of children under five years who
are stunted;
• Achieve a 50 percent reduction in
the rate of anaemia in women of
reproductive age;
• Achieve a 30 percent reduction in
the rate of infants born low birth
weight;
• Ensure that there is no increase in
the rate of children who are
overweight;
• Increase to at least 50 percent the
rate of exclusive breastfeeding in
the first six months; and
• Reduce and maintain childhood
wasting to less than five percent.
Overall progress towards the WHA targets has been
poor, with most countries on track for two or three
of the five targets being tracked (Figure 7).12 Only
one country is on track for all five targets (Kenya)
and one is on track for four targets (Ghana).

I know this is beyond your education level and you prefer posting pictures rather than dealing with evidence based empirical data to make sound argument. At least a few Nigerians here appreciate that .If you're interested in which country is more hungry, be my guest. Let start with FAO FOOD SECURITY AND NUTRITION REPORT 2017.
https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/a-i7967e.pdf

Start in Table 4 - Under-nourishment in Eastern Africa. You can see the steady progress kenya has made from 1999-2000 when we had 32% under-nourirshment(malnutrition) to 2014-2016- when we nearly halved it to 19%.

Now look at what great nation of the lazy people of Tanzania has done from the same period. They had 36% - and now they are 32% (that where we were 20yrs ago!!).


In raw figures..you have 17M of your people under-nourished(hungry) - and we have 8M. Our 8M live mostly in the semi-arid and arid north - like turkanas, somalis and oromos. You have mostly arable land. But of course you're too lazy and messed up by communist hang-over.

In another two decades...we would have made hunger history...but you'll still be stuck at 30% (1 out of 3 TZ) hungry, under-fed and malnourished.

But take heart - Uganda had 27% of it people under-nourished in 2000 and now it risen 39%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In short you're not the worst. DRC congo and Nigeria are obviously worse than you - let's not talk about Burundi or South Sudan for now.

You're certainly not THE WORST - but to compete with kenya in nearly anything is GRAND DELUSION Ndugu kutoka danganyika.

Kazikazi:
You too.make sure you are waking up before south sudan eradicate hunger in their territory..otherwise u will be the only nation in the world which starves to death.you hear me?

At least you're taking baby steps - hope you stay awake.Malawi woke up from deep slumber and overtook you. Your top bank will not make it anywhere near Kenya's Top 10 banks. 3 of our banks make the global top 1000 banks.

Kazikazi:
dont say we dont have companies in kenya.have u heard about village supermarket? Do u know CRDB is gov owned and its doing well outside Tanzania? Here are the proof

If you remove Oil production from Nigeria GDP - then you'll realize it not any better from any bottom 10 country in sub-sahara including TZ, Burundi, South Sudan, Niger, Chad and Eritrea.

NairobiWalker:
5 years ago, Nigeria's GDP per capita was almost triple Kenya's. Currently it's almost equal. In the next 2 years we'll be well ahead of them and to think that has been their only bragging point.

Expat Insider - If you go through this list - with so many indicators - by expats - Nigeria & Tanzania appears almost on the bottom of every list.
Survey by InterNations, the world’s largest network for people who live and work abroad,
https://inassets1-internationsgmbh.netdna-ssl.com/static/bundles/internationsexpatinsider/pdf/expat_insider_2016_the_internations_survey.pdf

Precisely. They've the worse quality of education. At least Nigeria began with really good quality education and then regressed - but TZ have historically very bad quality of education.

Jay254:
This just proves the level of Tz education system. You're given facts you replay with old time pictures.

Tz has along way to go to even compete with Rwanda.

When did empirical data become an essay?

Kazikazi:
There is no need for essay competitions here.Your 3.5 million are starving to death! Yes starving to death! Poor kenyans

DRC congo here we come..we will ameliorate the mess like we've done in TZ. Equity Bank has now expanded to 7 countries - Kenya companies who have dominated the eastern and part of southern africa - are now increasingly looking at Central & Western Africa.DRC & Ethiopia(if they ever allow) - will new sweatspot.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/equity-DRC-branch-becomes-most-profitable-subsidiary/539546-4723116-yu9n6q/index.html

You need to go for refunds from whichever Nigeria university taught your economics. The access to credit to private household, private sectors, smes and gov is something every nation want to have and is NOT related to current account deficit - unless you stretch the argument like you've done. We have healthy forex. Kshs is the strongest currency against USD in Africa as we speak. We are building on our strong financial sector (our banking sector is not puny, our co-operative/saccos admired worldwide, our micro-finance sector is one of world best) and now we have added mobile commerce/finance/lending - and we are cusp of a new financial revolution.We already lead Africa in number of people with bank accounts - we are working towards universal bank access...and slowly every kenyan will have ability to access credit (cheaper than Nigeria).

obaaderemi:
I am going to take the trouble to reply you because you sound like someone who is smart and calm,not like the old idiots Kikuyu1 and rsvp who know nothing about economics. They should face their fundi vocations. [b]Yes, what you see in that chart relates to household debt and I want you to pay attention to how it affects national economies. Higher household debt like in the case of little India Kenya results in more consumption by households and individuals and a larger share of your economic output coming from consumption . At the same time it results in your country running a current account deficit with the rest of the world especially the western world and China. I tried to discuss this with rsvp and Kikuyu in the past but they thought we were enemies and couldn't learn anything from one another. They were ignorantly boasting about Kenya's trade deficit. The illiterates!
So,your imports increase with consumption making up a larger share of the imports. For example, a 20year old Nairobi boys gets a loan and immediately spends it on a second hand Nike shoes . Check Kenya's balance of trade and you will be dismayed unless you are one of the economic illiterates here. FYI, the world bank and IMF are already warning Kenya. Plus the fact that the whole thing is a big danger to your already puny banking sector. So you see why sensible people came up with that chart and why I have posted it. Honestly, I have not said all of this to shame Kenyan education but for the benefit of a few sensible Kenyans who might be students[/b].

You're desperately scouring through the internet for anything including pictures that could validate your tenuous claims and you still come short.Kenya is so far ahead of your lazy, under-achieving and useless country. There are countries kenyans respect - start from Rwanda, Botswana, RSA (where you seem holled up with fellow Naija), Namibia, Ghana, Cote' devior, Senegal,Mauritius & Supra-Sahara - Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya, Algeria) - but Tanzania, DRC and Nigeria are PURE CESSPOOL.

Only a moronic kenyan will find himself going to TZ for any benchmarking on nearly anything.

Kazikazi:
Your southern neighbours are teaching u..are feeding u; they hosted u as refugees each time u held ur elections! We even helped ur tribalist nation to have peace but yet u r insulting. You are a fool.period

Digital lending that is happening now in Kenya is the cutting-edge stuff these nigerians bozo cannot comprehend. They are so backward - it no wonder they are siamese twins with our lazy & primitive southern neighbours TZ.

kikuyu1:
His problem is he's surrounded by typically low IQ Dangotelanders who tell him how clever he is and like each and every idiocy he writes so he'll never escape from mental blankness or learn anything meaningful.

Economics from Nigeria university. That most moronic statement of the day. Kenyans is advancing thanks to these kind of micro-loans.

obaaderemi:
You have zilch knowledge of economics, my boy. It's actually negative in the long and short run.

Kenya has always featured amongst the most educated and most hardworking diaspora - of course we didn't have big diaspora until 90s when our economy tanked - and right now - the number has decreased - nobody is dying to emigrate from kenya because there are opportunities to study and work in Kenya...so much oil rich nigeria citizens are pouring in. Nigeria will continue with brain drain until they sort out their internal issues.

obaaderemi:
He is clearly an idiot. How come Little India fails to feature consistently?

I am not sure how that graph is suppose to mean anything. Kenya is cusp of financial revolution and anybody with phone can borrow.

obaaderemi:
Kikuyu1, take my advice. This anger will only give you high blood pressure. I have listed what you need to achieve your lofty aim of being Africa's biggest economy by 2050 like you opined. Feel free to revisit my post. Your debt and level of corruption would always hold you back.

The most hardworking foreigners in US..Ghanians, Bulgarians and Kenyans.
The hardest and most skilled immigrant
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/diaspora/Kenyans-ranked-3rd-most-hardworking-foreigners-in-US/2107720-4722054-109n1tx/index.html

The joke of the century

jaycent:
The truth is that, Nigeria is beautiful than Kenya. Take it or leave it.

US produce corn to feed their cows. That is what is starting to happen in Kenya. Dairy sector has way more value than growing maize. Obviously if you have very small arable land like us - we have to prioritize. You have huge hunger problems - and half your budget is donor funded -- and your malnutrition is shocking.

There is no day TZ will be better than Kenya in nearly anything serious. As regard GMOs and the gibberish you're talking about -- I think you need to start from the basics..you've Africa worst crop yield per acre.

You plant 4m hectares of land to produce 5M tonnes of maize. We plant 2M acres of land to produce 4.5M tonnes. We plant one season due to unreliable rainfal and drought. You plant two seasons a year!!!!!!!!!!!

Kazikazi:
This are the words of a fool.do u know the different btn organic farming vs GMo? Do u know Usa is the biggest producer of maize in the world? Do u know in agriculture anything u plant can bring u a fortune according to how u go about it! Dont shame urself.you have multitude of people dying of hunger in kenya yet u pretends as if u know agriculture.shut up.dont speak what u doesnt know.is this not kenya?? Is this not hunger? Do u still want to tell others on how to do agriculture? Ooh poor kenyans!!

You don't want us to talk about Sisal and seaweed Let talk about your dirty cheap cereals that you sell to us. Why would we continue to grow rice, beans and maize - when we can easily buy from you - and instead focus on horticulture, floricluture, tea, coffee, dairy, nuts and such very rewarding agriclutural ventures?.

When it comes to hunger and malnutrition - kindly check the stats again. And then be ashamed because in kenya it's only in ASAL north where people struggle to feed themselves...kenya is 2/3 semi-arid - while you land is 2/3 arable - and yet you're still malnourished.

If kenya had your arable land - we would be competing with the Brazils or Canadas... but you guys are too lazy and too illeterate to use thaat land. Keya's arid and semi-arid regions make up 80 percent of the country’s land area...and yet we still kick arse globally in agricluture.

Kazikazi:
You are talking what u dont know.is sisal a foodcrop? Dont shame urself.is cashewnuts a cereal? Poor kenyan.Have u heard about Gmo? I have no time to lecture a guy about agriculture.you are dying for lacking food in kenya yet u want to tell us about how to do agriculture? Who are u fooling.just go and learn about GMO and other basic stuff.also learn about cloves( its not a cereal) You are zero in agriculture...anyway ur a kenyan!

Like Nigeria you engage in bottom of the food chain cereals - where you plant 10 times the size of land we do - to produce about the same quantity. Our productivity is nearly 3 times yours. And we are transitioning from useless beans, maize and rice - to highly profitable crops. That big difference. You have 10 times Kenya arable land and all you do is grow poor quality rice, beans and maize.

You dedicate nearly half of you land to plant maize - and all you can do is mere 5M metric tonnes. We do it on very small scale and we manage easily 3.5-4.5M metric tonnes.The maize you produce are of such low quality - it fetches about 1/3 or even worse of kenyan maize -- and we can only buy to blend it with our high quality maize.

You have Africa's worst yield per hectare for nearly all cereals (maybe with exception of the beans from Kagera region).

In short all Tanzania seem to do is to expend the least energy and brain growing the most basic of stuff.

Kazikazi:
Dont shame urself.in agriculture we are far ahead of u.thats y we feed ur hungry nation yearly.we dont just grow tea and coffee but we are the 4th biggest producer of rice in africa.1st in beans production in africa.1st in sisal in africa.1st in cultivation of seaweeds in africa.2nd in cloves production in africa.What about cashewnuts? Honey?

Will it be one tower city

jaycent:
Eko atlantic city, will be completed october next year.

You're incorrigible. Yes like your twins, DRC and Nigeria, you have huge land but you produce so little and of such poor quality nobody has ever heard of TZ tea. Kenya is WORLD TOP exporter of TEA. It's 3rd in production after India and China. And all this has been done mostly as small-holder farming. Mombasa Tea Auction is world biggest tea auction and dictate tea prices world-wide.

Kenya is edging towards 450,000 metric tonnes - with India at 900K and China at 1.7M...and with kenya annualized growth of 10% plus...we should soon overtake India.

As for our lazy ujamaa TZ...you are struggling to produce 30K metric tonnes (less than 10% of KENYA)..and majority owned by Kenyans. You cannot hack back-breaking tea industry.

The same is replicated in other crops we engage in....floriculture (nearly 40% of all flowers sold in Europe come from kenya)...Avacados..we overtook South Africa...Macademia we are now top 3 world-wide (I think we are nearly overtaking US of A)...our coffee is amongst the most sort after ....dairy industry we long overtook south africa..name it and we are engaging in WORLD - CLASS AGRICULTURE.

We are moving the agricultural chain..TZ you just engage in maize and beans - low bottom feeders - which you sell to Kenyans for REAL DIRTY CHEAP

Kazikazi:
young boy; tanzania is so huge.those are few factories.we have hundreds of tea factories in tz.

Precisely. Kenya and South Africa are the real investor in TZ. The rest come for their minerals.

Hbuyosh:
1. because our tourism sector was devasted by waves of terror attacks by the Somalia's Al shabaab militants. But Kenya's tourism prior to the terror attacks was among the big 4 in Africa.

2. And isnt Kenya among the top four biggest investors in Tanzania? Kenya and South Africa have invested in sectors such as retail, banking, insurance, hotels, manufacturing etc, unlike the the Uk, China and Canada who are only there to exploit your mineral and gas. A huge bulk of fdi ic concentrated in the mining sector, which u have in very big quantities, second only to the DRC, yet you are listed among the world's poorest and least developed countries.


https://www.tanzaniainvest.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/tanzania-foreign-direct-investment-fdi-2015.gif

Precisely. Kenya has always received more tourist than TZ - save for the 2 years when Alshabab terror was out of control - otherwise Kenya on average receive about double the tourist the lazy ujamaa undugu TZ receives...

NairobiWalker:
Actually, Kenya has more revenue than Tanzania in tourism. The figures they keep throwing around are figures for direct impact on GDP for Tz and figures for actual revenue for Kenya. I debunked them sometime back on Jamii Forums.

Looking at Nigeria 18 banks, the only sector they seem to have reformed, profitability wise, it appears only zenith and Gt bank beat kenya top two banks KCB&Equity in profitability.18 banks serving 200m people mainly struggling against 45 banks serving 50m.

Nigerians are moving en masse to Nairobi...seen a lot of them and that i guess is new reality.

Kikuyu1,Ethiopia rail has been in business for 2yrs..our cargo train is merely 8 months and we are adding a cargo train every month.Ethiopia and Tz have communist Marxist history that is hard to unravel unless they open up like chinese did in 1978.Nigeria is special case of the dutch disease..its hard to solve now..but basically they ought not have taken all the petro dollars in 70s but played smartly like norway,saudis and chinese did by parking the money in wallstreet...too much money flooded and wrecked nigeria socially,economically and politically.China or saudis or norway if they were to cash their huge forex at once would end up in nigeria but they bring in drips.Nigeria overdosed and fixing that is not an easy task.They are addicted to Oil and they cannot function without it.They need serious rehabilitation.