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This better than trying to teach kids who can barely comprehend basic maths and english how to code.Software engeneering is highly speciliazed skill Nowenuse: |
Educate yourself first.Kenya has developed as SSA biggest non mineral economy thanks to its unique service sectors that are far advanced than their peer economies.Let me know if you need that broken down.You cannot compare prices of services in kenya with nigerian or tz or eth on price alone...its likely our services are world class.This is mostly thanks to our strong private sector and highly skilled proffesionals..so stop thinking the hair cut youll get in Nairobi is comparable to lousy one in Lagos.The internet or housing or hotel or transport service youll get here are not comparable to Tz or Nigeria.Your dafno is not comparabe to our nganyas matatu with wifi & personalized video screen.We export a lot of services regionally.Our hotel workers are globally reknown n well sought after.We are top 40 logistical efficient economy.We beat US $ likes in internet speed.The quality of goods and services count.No lazy TZ can survive in Kenya service sector.Multinationals are tripping themselves to set up in Nairobi because even quality of house help baby sitting or housekeeping is not comparable to peer economy. Nowenuse: |
You skipped this....Nigeria is now at 2007-2010 - when Kenya is already a matured ICT Hub - our broandband speeds beat US & even Isreal - and we are building techno city.While you're busy at first stage - of building hubs....we are building an entire city for technology companies - and clearly Kenya's Silicon Savannah will be answer to Silicon Valley of San Francisco. Not Nigeria's Yaba valley ![]() The rise of Silicon Savannah... Most discussions of the origins of Africa’s tech movement circle back to Kenya, which laid down four markers between 2007 and 2010 to inspire the country’s Silicon Savannah moniker: mobile money, a globally recognized crowdsourcing app, Africa’s tech incubator model, and a genuine government commitment to ICT policy. 1) Exhibit 1 - Gov commitment to ICT Policy https://i.imgur.com/pEKmwNlh.png 2) Tecno City coming along - 5,000 ha city [img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HvMUQ3yRLZKxPhl7sySMoSl-E1AvEmnSYKexRCSdM2zO3m8xyRM9U2hW72qSjmJK1PpfzGxiuzFlaDVnlQ=w1080-h842-rw[/img] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGDXj9_W0AABtnl.jpg [quote author=Daejoyoung po st=68770148]Increasingly, Nigeria is becoming a centre for big tech investment and commercially oriented start-ups. Whatever the country’s challenges, investors and entrepreneurs are attracted by the prospect of scaling applications to Africa’s largest population and economy. Many have set up shop in Lagos’s Yaba district. There you can find the headquarters for e-commerce start-up Africa Internet Group and digital payments venture Paga, located near incubators Andela and Co-Creation Hub. Nigeria’s tech sector is becoming representative of repatriate entrepreneurs reversing some of Africa’s brain drain and IT reshaping the continent’s global linkages. All three of Africa’s most recognized e-commerce startups – Jumia, Konga and MallforAfrica – were founded by Nigerians who earned their university degrees and initial private sector experience in the US. A noteworthy portion of the roughly $600 million in VC to these entities comes from American and European investment firms. And the management of Jumia’s parent, Africa Internet Group, is a mix of repatriate Africans and MBA types from the US and Europe attracted to the continent’s IT opportunities over development work. From Nigeria to Kenya, and Rwanda to Ghana, tech innovation is starting to influence multiple sectors: energy, agriculture, banking, healthcare, entertainment, transport and fashion. Having researched the topic for the past six years, I believe technology in Africa has the potential to create more impact faster than anywhere previously in the world. There’ll be a lot to unpack on that prediction. To start, here are some trends to watch in the continent’s wired future. https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/05/a-brief-history-of-africa-s-tech-industry-and-7-predictions-for-its-future/&ved=0ahUKEwig7_Wt--vbAhUEaFAKHcGfAvcQFggnMAA&usg=AOvVaw2vVmgFdhsTy4X6jQamkyii[/quote] |
Go slow on cheap insults and I may be able to get what you mean.I suspect this is beyond your paygrade hence the insults.... The de-facto comparison for countries is nominal GDP (in USD). GDP (PPP) is only good for estimating the size of economy internally --- otherwise you'd have to assume the international basket of goods & services prices also reflect the quality but if you wanted to internally find if Nigerians were becoming poorer or richer...GDP(PPP) is more accurate than nominal GDP. But to compare your GDP with Kenya - Nominal GDP (USD) is what matters. theenchanter: |
Actually checked the so called CodeLagos - this open competition for kids above 16yrs & above - basically university level. So far trained about 15k Lagosians out-of-school and they are hoping to roll out in schools this Dec 2018. I am not sure what end goal is - of training everyone basic coding skills ![]() Something similar to kenya's Ajira - training kenyans for online work - including coding. So far Kenya Digital Ajira has trained 40,000 plus kenyans...with a target of 1M kenyan working online in 2022. |
First before we get to distinction - does yours exists? How many kids are learning to code as we speak. theenchanter: |
Kikuyu1 - I believe PPP cannot be use to compare countries against each other - because quality of a hair cut in Nairobi is not the same as in Lagos - for example a country like kenya that has very good service industry cannot compare to laggard like TZ- If you see the quality of good manufactured internally in Uganda - you simply cannot compare to kenya. PPP is only useful internally for stuff like tracking poverty & internal/domestic indicators etc - therefore for this thread - anyone quoting PPP figures need to study econ 101 again. kikuyu2: |
We also play soccer/football - and other sports - and we compete at international level in more sports. Our football is getting better - we now have couple of players playing proffesionally in Europe. We've sorted financing internally - Sport-Pesa & sport betting are now global players - so for first time we have domestic league where players are fully proffesional. In perhaps the only sport you "excel" in you're ranked 48 in latest fifa (average 38) and kenya is ranked 112(average 101) - so basically you're as crap as we are here. You're only in world cup because Africa need to get 5 teams there. Again let's talk football after your game with Argentina. You have won only 1 game against a country of 0.3M people. obaaderemi: |
This thread let me remind you again is all about comparison btw NIGERIA & KENAY. Therefore I'll discuss or most likely rip apart anything you say with that in mind. I just hope to be objective. If you want to discuss the "plan" of training 1M nigerian to code...open another thread. Now Oga - this code school thing - as of now - how many kids have they actually taught to learn to code. You see Nigeria and big expensive dreams are well know. Our digital literacy program exists - we had to build infrastructure for it - electrify all public schools - include those in remote dry north - then we supplied all schools with tablets - with projectors & laptops for teachers - this is for all primary kids - starting from class 1. We have done the same thing - labs - for high schools. And now we are rolling out fiber. theenchanter: |
Let get latest cement consumption n production and end the debate obaaderemi: |
Kenya has rolled out digital literacy in all schools from primary 1.We are in process rolling out fiber to all schools theenchanter: |
US $ China $ Kenya dont play Football that good but are still great sporting nations obaaderemi: |
Last week - Kenya was named the WORLD least toxic country!!! http://www.newsweek.com/kenya-worlds-least-toxic-country-551745 sufferNsmiling: |
China can afford to be dictatorship because it an homegenous country with hans chinese making 95% of the population. Ethiopia like Nigeria is hobbled by tribal competition btw Oromos, Tigrayans, Amharas and Somalis. I don't see it staying intact for a long time. The same way Nigeria will have to find a solution to it's Biafra problem...Ethiopia have to deal with all squabbling tribes. As regard the economy...yes they may industralize..but they need to do it fast..their fundamentals are "screwed" right now..they are basically bankrupt. nwoke37: |
I see you long lost any semblance of sobriety. Kenya is one of the greatest sporting nations of the world - not Africa. Our indians do well representing us in Cricket - all the way to world level. According to this website - that ranks great sporting nations across all discipline - Kenya is at position 19 globally (RANKED NO 1 in AFRICA) - and Nigeria at position 90(13 in Africa)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.greatestsportingnation.com/Country/nigeria http://www.greatestsportingnation.com/Country/kenya List of qualifying events http://www.greatestsportingnation.com/tournament/all obaaderemi: |
Both TZ & Ethiopia - despite being nearly twice kenya in size and pop - cannot catch Kenya anytime soon - both are hobbled by marxist/communist tendencies like Nigeria is - TZ nominal GDP (USD) is nearly half that of Kenya - Ethiopia had "reach" kenya - before they devauled by 15% - the real market rate of birr to usd is still higher by 35% (so their GDP will further shrink by 35%). TZ & Ethiopia - are more like rapidly improving Nigerians. Their fundamentals are just weak. I don't see them ever catching up with Kenya - an open,democratic,liberalized, progressive,modern & well-diversified economy. Nowenuse: |
Rugby is football. And unlike Kenya - you do not dominate anything globally. You can win only in Africa. Yungkid101: |
I am not sure what you're asking for - maybe you need some bullet points? Nairobi is 3rd in my view after Joburg and Mauritus as financial center of Africa. We are already in the process of making it a formal financial center -- ala london, newyork, hongkong, qatar - with help of Qatar & Chinese - we are hoping to have yuan clearing house in Nairobi. Nairobi has nearly all major banks of the world with office or rep office here. It already the major HQs for many top companies of the world. We have sub-sahara second most sophisticated securities market in Nairobi. We have some of world leading global commodities exchange - mombasa tea exchange for example is world leading black tea commodity market - WB. nwoke37: |
We have very good RUBGY FOOTBALL team that actually win stuff at global stage. Yeah that is football team. Of course we excel in far many other sports than Nigeria - and we do it in GLOBAL stage. We have our own music industry that good enough for us. Again why is it a problem to be very black? or very bald headed? Nigeria last I checked was BLACK nation. Yungkid101: |
Apart from his English - SufferNSmilling is a rare Nigerian. You guys need more of him. Honest people who can tell you the kind of mess your country is. As for him being Kenyan - that is rich No sane kenyan will want to be associated with Nigeria.jaycent: |
You won against Iceland - 200M country against Iceland with 0.3M people. You do not even feel ashamed? wait until Nigiria win against Argentina and advance to group stage before bragging here. KQ is ready to bring your team back home. Nowenuse: |
How can Adis do that when they worse than Nigeria in banking and finance. They do not allow private banks. They have even stricter control of forexs. They do not even have stock exchange - while Nairobi securities is already ahead of curve with many companies cross-listing here - complete with liquid debt market - nearly all major banks of the world have representative office or branch here - you can buy dollars or euros or any currency anywhere - chinese yuan have clearing house in Nairobi - KSHS is very stable --and you can move money in & out without any hassle - I can go on and on. Nairobi is already HQ of many companies with operation in Africa - so they will be sending money to Nairobi for onward transmission. UN alone has nearly 500-1B dollars worth of transaction annually. Globally we are now known for innovative mobile banking - m-pesa - and Our competition is South Africa and Mauritus. Not Lagos. Leave alone poor Adis. nwoke37: |
I am talking latest figures...2016 it was around 20M..last year ...18m..and dropping. nwoke37: |
It actually is. First you guys need to remove forex controls before anybody serious can bring their money there to Lagos. Nairobi is the financial center of Sub-Sahara Africa outside South Africa. As you speak I think we have passed a law that makes Nairobi an INTERNATIONAL financial center - We established Nariobi International finance trade center- so this is not IDLE talk. http://www.fsdafrica.org/newsite/project/nifca-onshore-financial-services/ The Nairobi International Finance Center - will be officially established in upper-hill after we pass laws to make it a tax haven - but right now Nairobi is already the financial center of SSA outside Joburg & Mauritus. nwoke37: |
Just share you figures. You consume around 18M tonnes per year for nearly 4 times our population(198M). We consume around 6M with 48M folks. Basic maths - you need to consume around 24M metric tonnes to catch kenya per capita As for Lagos - it's pretty much irrelevant -coz you sit in francophone region - so Ibandan most likely has more kick than Lagos. Nairobi is definitely the HQ of many multinationals in Africa, regional HQs of many embassies, the only UN HQ in developing world, the financial center of SSA outside South Africa, the regional Airport hub (with Joburg & Adis Ababa), etc. That thread at SkyeScraperCity that rans 42 pages - has list of companies that have chosen Nairobi to be their regional if global HQ (like Oxfam recently did - moving their international HQ to Nairobi from London). https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1559138&page=42 obaaderemi: |
8B dollars importing refined Oil - is reason why Nigeria to me will remain forever hopeless. If you cannot refine oil that god has given you - then country is cursed. Cursed with pathetic leadership. sufferNsmiling: |
Officially Nigeria (Dangote) claims to export cement. And here they are importing cement. sufferNsmiling: |
Lies and insults are not substitute of facts and sound argument. We have higher cement consumption per capita (around >150 kilos) than Nigeria somewhere around (130). Kenya is also not a small irrelevant country - whatever that means - but are certainly the biggest dog in regionally - with Nairobi the most important city outside JoBurg in Sub-Saharan Africa. obaaderemi: |
The answer is obviously NAY - this plant was designed and built in 70s & 80s - and we are in 2020 - that nearly 50yrs - that is just a rust belt - I bet Nigeria can go to US and buy themselves something that is not as rusted as Ajaukota stillborn steal plant. kikuyu1: |
It probably was...but whatever the case..Ndakaini..saisuma...are not enough to supply water to Nairobi & it's metro. We really need huge investment there. There has been dearth of investment and lack of outrage as people got used to dry taps. It shouldn't be that way. Dry taps should be so rare it ought to make news. That is one sector where we have let ourselves down. We should not get so used to living like Nigerians...where everything has been dysfunctional for some many years - it became new normal. TayserMahiri: |
Nairobi water supply has become more like Nigeria electricity supply. Pple are so used to water rationing - dry taps are normal.Just like poor Nigerian with their generators...nearly all Nairobeans have some storage tanks to store water to deal with shortage. This need to really change. We need to invest in 3-5 Ndakainis just to meet the current demand in Nairobi alone. TayserMahiri: |
I have data showing Kenya is second leading source of remittance to Uganda after US. I don't need data for Somalia. I am also aware of many Nigerian now eking their lives in Kenya and of course remitting to Nigeria. nograv: |
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