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Ruto speaks to South Africa SABC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtMjTYr6osk

You have one lonely apartment and you're all over the map.

samorobo:
Ikoyi a very big neighborhood with so many sub -wealthy neighborhoods under its wings.
This is also ikoyi .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Q_huF6j1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAE0WwwXJFg
Now this is Westland . What is it about Westland from the aerial view that would make Westland pass as wealthy and ikoyi pass as middle class. You talk a lot.
Wait for the guy to get to the rooftop then you see what I am saying.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLYXOMCkFHQ

Looks good but for the wealthiest neigberhood...that looks more middle class.

samorobo:
Amazing property with an amazing view.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prOBUeF2aGc

Yes the coast is slipping away. I have seen Raila rallies in Mombasa today, Kwale and Taita Taveta - very low key. It's really difficult time for any incumbent candidate to campaign (self-inflected destruction by Raila) - economic situation worldwide- is hurting people. Looking at the opinion polls - and taking them at their highest - they remind of 2010 referendum - where undecided voters remain very high - till election week. Come election day - the Nos did very well - scoring 32% against project 20% - because like now (Ruto folks are mostly unwashed poor hustlers) - the Nos where mostly poor christian fundamentalist- while the Yes were mainstream - shied away. So generally prepare for "shocking" margins of defeat of Raila.

My predictive model looks like this.

Total Registered votes 22.1M
National Avg Turn out 73% - down from 78% in 2017
Expected Total Votes 16.3M
Ruto win 54% of 8.7M
Raila second 44% of 7.2M
Waja & Mwaura score 1% of 231K.

GOV SEN WOW MPS
UDA 24 26 26 148
ODM 7 11 9 43
JUBILEE 2 2 1 25
WIPER 4 3 5 25
UDM 4 3 2 12
ANC 2 0 1 12
FORDK 2 1 1 12
DAP 1 0 0 6
KPU 1 0 0 6 1
OTHER 0 1 2 1
TOTAL 47 47 47 290

Both sides right now are trying to see who can outrig or sabotage the election. Uhuru knows it's gone but he is not going down without a fight. The political risk therefore of a 2007 kind of meltdown is very high. But given their defeat is overwhelming....my numbers I suspect are about 2-3% underrating Ruto victory - that are disguised now as undecided voters - they will fold their camp. But again expect all kind of shenagians and prepare yourself accordingly.

kikuyu1:
He disappointed me! Was again in Msa and Kwale and confirm Ruto has a solid support base,moreso in the latter where he's positively identified with road projects.

I dont remember. I remember saying they are his strongholds. I have kept tabs of opinion polls data over the last two years - Mt kenya remain Ruto stronghold. Uhuru lost the war in the battle of Kiambaa.

Tayser:
That statement applies more to you than me. Rem telling me how Ruto only needs the mountain and the rift. Now the tune has changed.

Nairobi has it tribal arithmetic.
Mt kenya (Kikuyus) 30%; Luo; Luhya; Kambas are 15% each; rest of tribes; 25% (mainly Gusii, Somalis, Kalenjin)
Now I keep track of all opinion polls.
Raila has edge in Nairobi of 10-20% in almost all.
Nearly all of them have 15-30% undecided voters?
Who are these undecided voters?
You can bet these are mostly lower class Nairobieans - who are mostly Ruto kind of supporters
I expect Raila will win Nairobi - but I think it will be close.
Something like 55 versus 45 - while Raila and Igathe have the tribal arithmetic in their favour - they dont have the message/ the economy is bad/ people are hurting.
Ruto has SONKO like messaging of 2017 and will suprise many by how he does in urban poor.

Raila cant save Igathe - Nairobi elected Sonko and Raila - ODM women rep won. Opinion polls show parties do not matter in Nairobi - people are voting individuals.

Maybe Raila & Kalonzo - can try to influence Nairobi Luo and Kamba and try to save Igathe - in the last week - that would make it go to the wire.

As of now - Sakaja in poll I saw is now into 60 percent - Igathe 30 percent - Igathe had better just shut up and not say anything more - and hope Raila can carry him along

Tayser:
The same Nairobi where Raila won with 54% against a combined uhuruto with 46% in 2017? Bro. This time round Ruto will struggle to even get 30% in the city. Igathe was never doing well, in fact he was floored in the debate. Sakaja was doing marvelous and most people would have given him the seat despite the deep state and degree issues. BUT Once Rao endorses him the ball game will change completely. He will floor Sakaja.

All you entire theory is based on Mt kenya. I have done the maths. Raila would need to WIN 60 percent of Mt kenya to go 50-50 with Ruto. He aint even getting 20 percent . Ruto has run circles around Raila in almost every region.

Tayser:
That had nothing to do with what I wrote.

Tunnel vision. Ruto knew even before he signed 2013 deal with Uhuru that he wasnt going to get Mt kenya votes 100%. He knew the history. In fact Uhuru promised him his only vote - and he didnt promise him GEMA vote. From 2013 Ruto has been working on Plan A - which was to get votes from old KANU stronghold that had kept Moi in power for 24yrs. If you check how many trips Ruto has made to Coast, Western and such places they are staggering - and they are paying off.

Ruto has now definitely flipped Bungoma, Tranzoia, Turkana, Kwale, will take pastoral regions of Somalis (except for other seats), will take Vihiga by razor thin as Mudavadi is influential in Maragoli, will split Kakamega, has equal footing in Kilifi, name them. Ruto is doing well in Maasai land and related pastoral counties.

Remember in 2013 - Uhuru won only Mt Kenya and Kalenjin - elsewhere he was scoring single digits - Raila had almost 90% - what killed him was the turnout.

2017 - Ruto has improved Jubilee fortunes by innecessant campaigns - areas that voted Jubilee 4-10% like Western - were now doing 10-30% - Gusii had flipped - Coast had improved to 15% - Ukambani same 15-20%. Nationally Jubilee had improved 4% - all thanks to Ruto efforts.

This 2022 - Ruto has essentially beaten two heavy weights - one running the state and coming from Mt kenya - and Raila - by basically running rings all over the country - except Luo Nyanza. UDA is either most popular party or 2nd most popular party in all counties.

Come 9th August you will understand just how brilliant Ruto - he is an A grade Moi student. Moi was able to string unlikely win by focusing on small tribes - while in Mt kenya he was scoring zero, Luo Nyanza zero, most of Luhya zero votes. Yet Moi won with almost 40 percent. That is where Ruto learnt his politics.

You're overly focused on Mt kenya - and you wont know what it you come 10th - because Ruto as we speak is doing 10 rallies - has visited towns nobody has ever campaigned in since Moi era.

Such kind of hard-nosed grassroot focused economy that are well financed is the reason entire gov, deep state, system, Uhuru and Raila are hopelessly staring at their loss.

When it come IEBC - Ruto owns it. Chebukati is busy working to make sure there is only one name in certificate of winner - Ruto. Raila and company have come to that realization late - now they are stuck - they attack chebukati they sent away voters - so seem they have designed last minute to get parrallel tallying systsems, hire and train agents - . They are going to get eaten alive. Uhuru is drunkard - the ENGINE has always been RUTO.

Tayser:
You got it upside down bro. He is back because the people of the mountain are now less hostile and can listen to him. The fact that he is back tells you how deflated Ruto's camp is...

Any incumbent gov worldwide will struggle now leave alone those who were already struggling popularity wise. Joe Biden has gone from creating million of jobs and lifting US economy - to losing mid-term for sure & UK gov is home. The context is hyperinflation of basic commodities. People are not in the mood to listen to excuses - they are getting gutted by inflation.

For Nairobi - the urban poor - where food expenditure is half their expenditure - this are difficult times. Igathe was doing fine until he started Sakaja degree mess - Uhuru showed his direct hand by going all the way to Uganda Museveni to try block him. The debate yesterday essentially was the last nail on Igathe coffin. Nairobi is gone. Sakaja has won that one.

Nationwide - For every single Kikuyu vote ( he really cant influence even embu & meru at poiint) he tries to get - he is losing a luhya, a mijikenda and a kamba. He is making Raila & Martha a project.

He is essentially in damn if he does this; damn he doesnt.

NTSA:
Uhuru has brought back sonko to the campaign trail in Nairobi .A proof that azimio might be struggling .
Like I said Uhuru is the only man who can bring the necessary energy ,combat power and emotions in Railas campaign which is already doing badly.

I have no problem with nigerian music - I listen to them often - I get it - I dont get say indian or chinese or arabic music.

samorobo:
There is nothing to forget,the world is already addicted to its and that addiction will go on for the longest of time,so get use to it.
On the flip side,you try forgetting Nigerian music and let see how well you succeed with that.

I dont think Raila will even show up for the beating. It's a dog beating....Ruto winning margin now approaching 60

As of today he has asked IEBC to halt recruitment of election presiding officers - demands that are impossible - with only four weeks to go to the election d-day.

He tried manual lame excuse..chebukati told him...it will be there but kept at const store because it highly unlikely it will ever been needed...they are now six replacement voting kits...3 have to fails before a manual register with many signatures is allowed.

Few days ago he sent IEBC letter saying Kalenjin and biased election returning officers were many and placed in strategic counties constituting half the votes.

Prepare to demonstrate on the streets or I dont know how Raila is hoping to stop election. Maybe rush to court?

What does Raila and Uhuru knows...Ruto has opened a huge gap..NIS 10%..prov administration 12 percent...opinion polls (real - not doctored) show the same 10 plus margin.

And Ruto has the momentum from his 30th June manifesto - that was ground breaking in it's seriousness in identifying the problems and proposing realistic solution.

As for Gachagua - that man is submarine - you'll only know what hit you when day comes - he is working the real deep state and mt kenya everyday - while Martha is struggling to pay international muscians to attract crowds - and transport crowds.

Shma:
Trust me when I tell you it's vice-versa. Ruto is losing it. Martha's collaboration with Rao was the final nail in Ruto's coffin. I've been following the Azimio tour in Mount Kenya zone - and I can tell you that the tables have turned. The so-called UDA zone is no more. Rao/Martha doesn't need Uhuru at this point... Masses(from mount Kenya) knows already that Ruto disrespected him - and they will never choose him over Uhuru.

Ruto would have taken this seat easily - if he was patient enough to wait. Now all the big fish are turning against him. The worst thing he did was to pick Gachagua... Someone who can't even influence 1/4 of Kikuyu votes.

In a nutshell... Raila's campaign is gaining momentum every day. Ruto can't save himself from that.

Ethiopia our northern neigberhour did this a decade a go - and their train occasionally stall - electric train without stable electricity is madness. Our southern neighbour TZ - cannot run anything serious - that train will be stalling almost daily.

Kenya SGR is diesel run with option to upgrade to electric when we have very stable power...meaning almost zero downtime otherwise you'll be stalling midway on random hours on random days...causing chaos.

68816419:
Congrats Kaz and Tanzania
Test running of TZ electric SGR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VvrZj_O0ps
Meanwhile in 254 .

Poor Nigerians. Flutterwave and others will lose their money. Kenya has very strict anti-money laundering laws. Over the last few months - many Nigeria accounts have been blocked - and the money likely to go to gov - by Asset Recovery Authority - you cant explain - you lose the money.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-07-06-court-freezes-56-bank-accounts-with-sh7bn/

“If indeed the Flutterwave was providing merchant services, there was no evidence of retail transactions from customers paying for goods and services. Further, there is no evidence of settlements to the alleged merchants,” he said.

The company’s Equity account number revealed that at some point in May 2021, it received 185 online card payments all sharing the same bank identification number.

The transactions were done using cards issued by the same bank at the same point on the same day raising suspicion of card fraud.

For instance, ARA says the Flutterwave equity USD Bank account was opened in November 2020.

Raila's Azimio you surely can do better than this. Dr Ndii chew Azimio dude. Why not recall Prof Nyongo in Kisumu to help Azimio come with up with an economic plan?
Ruto seem to have the momentum back from Wajackoyah after the Manifesto launch - who got it from Martha.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcCNJ7kGLmE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0hBiQIS5k

All good except it hard to keep PPP accurate; the dollar is very responsive to economic changes and tells a truer picture very fast; unless the forex market is rigged (fixed); so nominal GDP is de-facto and used everywhere for international comparison. PPP are mostly used for internal matters..like poverty analysis.

jl115:
I've told you and rvp2018 this same thing many times ... But I'll do it again..... GDP nominal is the simple measurement of the value of goods and services in US dollars.... However the problem lies in the fact that goods and services are not equally priced in every country hence what $100 buys you in the US is not the same as what $100 buys you in Kenya( aka difference in PPP)

Thus a basket of goods in the US might cost $100 but for the same basket it might only cost $50 in Kenya now for argument sake if a countries gdp was based of only this one basket the GDP nominal would be $100 for the US but only $50 for Kenya however this obviously isn't a fair comparison and isn't a true reflection of the countries wealth

The fact is PPP measures goods and services at the prices that they are locally and thus compares the absolute purchasing power of the countries own currencies.

GDP nominal is in fact a horrible and outdated way of comparing economies

Some many gems from Dr Ndii response

I like he compared IMF austerity measures (that generally harm the country) with what the unorthodox (heredotox) measures they proposing to fix kenya debt crisis.

https://twitter.com/DavidNdii/status/1543880188794179584

Tayser. Dr Ndii explain Ruto gov manifesto - and knocks it out of the park for poor Azimio.
https://twitter.com/DavidNdii/status/1543880188794179584

With expected devaluation of many currencies - this list will change a lot - Egypt or South Africa will come tops. Nigeria might get 40% haircut. Now you - seem to go IMF nominal GPD - when favourable - and PPP when unfavourable.

jl115:
@samorobo... Chech this graph from the Imf

No, debt to gdp, these are conscious decision people take. It start from the budget. You cannot steal outside the budget. Ruto has been out of gov for 5yrs - debt to gdp has become even more terrible.

Kibaki indeed benefitted from the democracy dividends like the re-admission of kenya to Paris club of creditors and debt restructuring thereof - but he took very deliberate actions to reduce debt -and one of them was to finance budget deficit by sale of kenya public assets.Kibaki sold Kengen, Kenren and of course Safaricom - whopping 25% of it - earning enough money to finance deficit. Gov has to watch those macro-economic figures like a hawk watches his prey - Kenya when it cross 60% - should have stopped borrowing - and switching to finance budget through privisation or such schemes.

Jubilee is a victim of it's infrastructure success - because it has come with huge debt burden - and what Ndii has done - is to re-focus the gov from investing in infrastructure - whose ROI is long term - and focus on short & medium term goals.

Ndii is proposing to shift public investment to private sector through PPPs - and also to increase investment from savings - this mean you will soon be paying more for NSSF, Pension funds will have more money , housing levy.

This will reduce the need to borrow - and budget deficit will reduce to 3% in 4-5yrs - and we could have a balanced budget like we did during kibaki regime.

Tayser:
The debt to GDP was high during Moi's era because of two things mainly.

1. The govt was WAY TOO corrupt - all the monies went to people's pockets and nearly zero for development. Those were the monies he went dishing around to churches every Sunday, same thing bwana asifiwe wants to return. Osiris forbid!!
2. Western sanctions.

You didnt need any magic to correct that. With or without Ndii, Kibaki would have made the correct choice. You just need common sense. Even currently its obvious that heavy borrowing has to take a back seat for the next 2-3 years. You don't need Ndii to tell you that. What I dont get is how he convinced Ruto that with 90 B he can get an ROI of 500% (500B)! That nigga is a charlatan.He is the king of sham manifestos.

Yes they are delusional. Ivory Coast is a country that is admirable...save for small civil wars...it way better run almost exclusively on cocoa. Ghana should just copy them.

popizaino:
Ghanaians are not ready to take the bull by the horns just yet and I like i said earlier, they love to walk before crawling. They live in the delusion of been more special and better than every African country so they rather study the economy policies of big countries like Switzerland, Norway, Singapore,Hongkong than to study economy policies of countries closer to them and also forgetting it's a different world with different challenges thus leaving out the core fundamentals of how those countries got there. You need to be here and listen to the local media to see the standards they have set for themselves. It is always about how Sweden,Denmark has done it not about how their very next door neighbours Cote d'ivoire has been able to keep inflation to the bearest minimum,not about how Nigeria has been able to keep her economic aloft despite her challenges,it is about how the UK has done it. In economy you study parallel models not unparallel stuffs like they do.

You cannot run electronic and manual system. It defeats the whole purpose. We already have one world most expensive election - spending almost 500M usd...enough to build a metro line in small city - by investing in technology.

I have seen analysis done on 2017 election - first election had 1.5M people not identified by fingerprints - and 2nd one had 0.3M - and interesting thing - nationally biometric identified 98% of the voters - except in Northern Kenya especially Mandera, Garissa, Wajir - the likes where upto 50% of voters were not identified.

Manual register aids rigging into two areas
1) Remote Northern Kenya - where mass ballot stuffing happens
2) Stronghold of the candidate - where opposing agents are not allowed and IEBC local staff collude to ensure high turnout - last minute they cross the names of those who havent turned up - and insert fake ballots.

If IEBC stick to their guns - and disallow the easy to manipulate manual register - then I expected turnout to come down to 70-72%
Most rigged areas are Northern Kenya - those strange turnout figures - will go back to historical lows of 50-60%.
Nearly half of voters in place like Mandera were clearly manipulated.
Next victim is stronghold rigging - in this election Luo and Kalenjin land likely to collude as nearly everyone support their tribal cause including IEBC local staff - also agents from opposing side will find going rough to stop rigging - they can only clandestinely report rigging.

In summary Raila wants manual register so he can 1) continue rigging his Luo Nyanza stronghold and 2) Uhuru can help him rig the northern kenya.

Tayser:
I think both systems should be available for redundancy, with the caveat that the manual register should only be used if the EVID fails.

This is from IEBC website:



The EVID cannot be 100%.

WIth lots of minerals it should be easy to fix. They just need fiscal discipline to watch the macro-economics. Their appetite for commercial loans is almost criminal. They should build domestic debt market - and avoid commercial loans like a plague. Take concessional low interest long maturity loans. That should be bare minimum.

Ghana and Zambia are twins in everything. They look good from a distance - democratic and all that organized - but they are always 2-3 years from an economic meltdown.

popizaino:
Ghana will keep needing IMF bailout in this lifetime until they learn to crawl before walking and that is to correct the fundamentals of their macroeconomics. Sadly,the only one who was trying to kickstart the process of correcting this fundamentals was seen as economic disaster by this shallow minded individuals.

Agreed - you can tell from their 500% plus cedis depriciation since 2017. Ghana looks good on paper until you look at the pictures on the ground. Then you examine it's macro-economics - cedis depreciation that is crazy, inflation, interest rate, very expensive prizes for everything -despite gold, oil and bauxite.

I think only difference btw Kenya and many countries - we start shouting when things start turning south

POKUASI2:
one thing is noticing a problem, admitting there's a problem then finding a solution to the problem.
In the case of ghana, they care more about LOOKING GOOD ON PAPER so as to keep a certain IMAGE to foreigners then use propaganda to manage the local population.
The truth of the matter is, this economy has been sick since 2017 and every honest Ghanaian with tell you so.
They have been cooking the books using different methods then turn around to blame covid, Russia/Ukraine when anybody that's a part of the economy knows there's been a fundamental problem.
The organization I work with is a major player of the economy and we know that a day like this will come cos we do selling and have been since the last 12yrs. We can tell when the economy is buoyant by the numbers of people that buy things from us.
This very economy have been on life support since 2017 and got worse before around 2019 but some populist stunts were pulled to confuse the people for political gain.. I.e. free water and electricity.

The signs are all over. Ghana is going to be amongst the first to fall unless it changes tact. The Ukraine-Russia war look set to continue for sometime - and so many economies will collapse unless they change. To change tact...require very tough leadership...soon forexs are going to run short. Countries need to cut down on ANY capital investment in the medium term. Stop building roads or dams ASAP. Cut development budget to zero. Focus on stimulus package that can inject money to the economy - think about reducing imports to bare minimum - try to keep the economy running until this Ukraine-Russian-NATO - COVID mess is clear.

Most importantly Africa need a unified response to this - because if every country run to IMF - then they will be eaten alive. First there has be a moratorium on debt repayments to rich nations until they settle their wars. The forex are running short. Commodities globally are expensive - so you need double the dollars to buy the same things.

POKUASI2:
It was on this forum I stated that a certain country risk collapse if they don't swallow their pride and run to the IMF as always.
Thank God I've been proven right at the end of the day...

The genius leading Dr Ruto revolutionary plan is David Ndii - one of Africa best economicts - Rhodes scholar with Phd from Oxford university. Dr Ndii with Prof Nyongo the father of Oscar actress Lupita Nyongyo (Phd Chicago school of economic) crafted the 2005 Kenya economic recovery plan- that saw Kenya reduce debt to gdp from 60% to 30% - and Kenya had a balanced budget in 3yrs - from Moi decades of mismanagement.

If his partnership with Ruto who is equally brilliant and can make things happen LAST - Kenya will get out of current doldrums and soar again in 2-3yrs.

Kenya took huge turn in 2005 because we had brilliant Kibaki (London school of economics- MA) as President, Prof Nyongo (Phd political economics from School of Chicago) as Planning Minister and Dr Ndii (Phd in African Economics Oxford) as the consultant economist drafting the strategy papers - without doubt Chicago, Oxford & London schools of economics are the best in the world - and with combination of the trio kenya economy boomed - despite 2007/2008 ethnic violence - growing to 10% in 2010 - and now we are back to problems due to COVID/Ukraine - and Uhuru total mismanagement - and we need to reboot the economy.

Now once again it's time for kenya lacking any natural resources or huge arable land to turns to it's brain - or we are dead. We could go into Moi era lost decade of 1990s.

Example - Kenya already africa leader in milk production - can double milk production in short term by investing in animal feeds.
Dr Ndii -> The illustration we have used is increase by 0.5 kg per cow x 2.2m cows x 300 days = 330m kg p.a worth Sh13b @ Sh40/kg. This we can do in months with nutrition. From 2.5 to 10, you need genetics which will take 3 years between insemination and lactating cow.
https://twitter.com/DavidNdii/status/1542799983585402882

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/David_Ndii_-_Monopoly_in_Africa%3F_Investment_and_sustainable_development_Heinrich_Boell_Foundation_%2835198470415%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/1280px-David_Ndii_-_Monopoly_in_Africa%3F_Investment_and_sustainable_development_Heinrich_Boell_Foundation_%2835198470415%29_%28cropped%29.jpg

Ruto's 5yr plan for Kenya. 66 pages Solid plan full of numbers that reflect the work of 258 experts - most of them the best in their fields. Far cry from the joke that Raila presented that was heavy on generics.

Biggest departure - there will be barely any big ticket project - almost zero mega project unless someone comes with their own money and build it - Ruto is proposing to split the money small & medium business if not directly back to the people.

There will also be almost zero debt to be taken - revenues expected to double - and the budget to balance in 3yrs.

Overally Dr David Ndii fingerprints are all over in this radical plan that turns on it's head conventional ways that Kenya has been doing things - it almost revolutionary

Some of the highlights.
- Fix agriculture by investing 250B kshs in 5yrs - give farmers guarantee minimum returns linked to crop/livestock insurance - eliminate food imports.
- Introduce GMOs - first with BT Cotton.
- Provide 50B fund for SMES at every ward level - to provide cheap single digit loans.
- Fix manufacturing by focusing on small informal manufacturing - rather than large manufactures. Link manufacturing to agricluture.
- Increase mortgages from 30,000 to a million in 5yrs - by building affordable and standardized housings - gov will spend almost zero - providing land to develops who will build them and sell them cheaply.
- Electrify public transport - through public buses/motorbikes. Focus on mass transit.
- Energy - focus on charcoal/wood fuel - instead of imported LPG - build the charcoal value chain and decriminalize it.
- Increase fiber network from 10,000kms to 100,000kms. kenya is already ahead of many places including Europe - so this revolutionary - in Africa algeria has 110K out of 1 million kms of fiber - but Algeria is huge country. The fiber will be laid to the existing electricity network - meaning very little investment - just dragging the fiber alongside the electric cable.
- Fix tourism by focusing on low budget traveller/touriss and shifting kenya branding as high end tourist product.
https://venasnews.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/UDA-Manifesto-2022-Press-Copy.pdf

To be precise. Mandela started as global icon. Mbeki was doing fine until he started believing conspiracy theories on HIV-AIDS and when Zim issues exploded - South Africa choose to be quiet. Then they elected Zuma - a corrupt slowpoke - and from there it has never recovered.

Subsaharan:
Ok, Thank you

Sure. By the 9th 9pm we should have the winner.

Shma:
I will meet you after 40 days just to laugh at you. Right now, Spare your words. Let's catch up on 10th August 2022. Too much talk already.

Kikuyu - look like some of manifesto is filtering through - the most exciting Ruto is promising to phase out fossil fuels in 3yrs - and make kenya electric...audacious goal by an African country.
I guess GoK will have to create industries to convert diesel and petrol engines to electric engines...do the conversion as loan for the motorcyle sector...and in few years diesel & petrol consumption will drop to bare minimum.
Doable for motor bikes...worldwide the trend is electric bikes.
Difficult for cars. But if gov zero rate electric cars...we could see many of them coming in.
We have about 500-700MW of power going to waste now.
Ethiopia can sell us 400MW of power cheaply.
We spend 3 billion dollars importing fossil fuel - with attendances shocks that come with prizes swinging widly.
This will provide huge opportunities for electric transport sector.
https://twitter.com/DavidNdii/status/1541802820789325825

Economically yes, South Africa remain the Sub-SaharaAfrican giant with it's companies in almost all Africa countries, politically ever since you elected Zuma, and messed up Zim, nobody really look upto South Africa anymore for political solutions.

jl115:
in Africa we only have regional powers, no African country has the influence of China or the US,and neither did I claim such, what I said was SA has more influence thanks to having more soft power, because of the fact that we are in G20, Brics and aEU stratigic partner as well has the fact that we are the most visible African investor in Africa...
Everyone knows our products and franchises... The fact that you shop at Shoprite, watch your shows on DSTV and buy your airtime at MTN is what I mean by soft power...... I never said SA influences WA more than Nigeria does but that was never my argument in the first place

Look like Naira has collapsed..40 percent down...when oil is at premium?

The choice of color is hideous.

Kuruptnigga:
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