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I miss the days when this thread was about military matters

Anyways.....confirmed projects for SANDF 2015

- Serial production and acceptance of A-Darter AAM

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- Serial production and acceptance of Badger IFV

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- Purchase/upgrade of new heavy weight torpedo for submarines


Known projects currently at Armscor tender stage
- Aquisition of three inshore and three offshore patrol vessels (tenders close June 2015)

Projects at development phase with Armscor and Denel

- Marlin family of long range radar guided surface to air missile
- Continued work on Umkhonto land based surface to air missile for SA Army GBADS program

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Unconfirmed projects
- Purchase of Seeker 400 UAV by SA Air Force
- Purchase and apparent operation of defence intelligence spy satellite

Did State Security spy on Defence Intelligence’s satellite programme?


Another apparent revelation by the Al Jazeera/Guardian Spy Cables has led long-time spy satellite seeker after the truth, David Maynier, to ask whether the State Security Agency (SSA) was collecting intelligence on a Defence Intelligence satellite surveillance programme.

Maynier, who heads up the opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party's defence portfolio in Parliament and is also deputy shadow minister in intelligence matters, said the most recent release of information by the Al Jazeera investigative unit showed alleged "extensive co-operation" between Russia and South Africa on a secret satellite surveillance programme.

"A South African Secret Service, now State Security Agency (Foreign Branch), 'Intelligence Information Report' dated August 28, 2012, and classified 'Top Secret' reveals significant new information on strategic co-operation between Russia and South Africa."The SSA's information report reveals for the first time: that Russia and South Africa were co-operating on a secret satellite surveillance programme, codenamed Project Condor; that the satellite surveillance programme was to be used for strategic military purposes; that the satellite surveillance programme would eventually culminate in the launch of a satellite by Russia on behalf of South Africa; that the aim was eventually to integrate the Russian and South African satellite surveillance programmes to provide wider coverage; and that 30 Russian technicians were working on the satellite surveillance programme in South Africa.

"Until now there has been no information about 'Project Condor' in the public domain," he said adding the satellite launch reference "almost certainly" refers to Defence Intelligence's R1.4 billion Kondor-E synthetic aperture radar satellite, "launched on or about December 19 last year under the codename Project Flute".

"Bizarrely, it appears SSA could have been collecting intelligence about a Defence Intelligence satellite surveillance programme."We cannot confirm all the information in the report is accurate but it certainly suggests co-operation between Russia and South Africa on the satellite surveillance programme appears to have been more advanced and carried out on a larger scale, than previously thought," Maynier said.

DENEL DYNAMICS DISPLAYS ARMED SEEKER 400

Like i said in my last post regarding Seeker 400. A lil birdy says watch out for this one being ordered by the SA Airforce. Now this story adds a little more to that.

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Denel Dynamics showed an armed version of its Seeker 400 Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) for the first time at the IDEX show currently underway in Abu Dhabi.Sello Ntsihlele, UAV general manager of the company in the Denel Group specialising in UAVs and missiles, told the IDEX show daily that a final series of recent flight trials of the Seeker 400 system cleared it for production this year.

"The system is being offered in both a 'clean' ISR Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance-only and an armed reconnaissance version designated Snyper," he said."The latest trials involved the full gamut of performance tests, including range and altitude, safety, endurance and functional payload. This brought us to the baseline as specified by the client, allowing us to head for production.

[b]"The Seeker 400 is the latest and most advanced of Denel Dynamics' UAV portfolio, with an operating altitude of 18 000ft, 16 hours endurance and a cruising speed of 150 km/h. With a payload capacity of 100 kg it can carry dual payloads comprising synthetic aperture radar, optronics turret and digital video system for different tactical missions.[/b]The Seeker 400 builds on the heritage of the smaller Seeker 200, derived from the Seeker II, which had significant export success. Both versions are on display at IDEX.

"By aligning the design with international specifications for an armed surveillance UAV, we can offer Snyper with four Impi-S missiles. That still allows for a 40 kg payload, typically the Goshawk II HD from Airbus DS Optronics, although we are still optimising Snyper's structure," Ntsihlele told the IDEX daily publication.The Impi-S is derived from the proven Denel Dynamics short-range (5 000 m) Ingwe and long-range (10 000 m) Mokopa anti-armour missiles.

According to Ntsihlele, potential international clients have indicated a preference for the existing Denel Dynamics forward tactical ground station, despite a smaller ground station being available for ease of transport. The tactical ground station typically more than doubles the line-of- sight range of the aircraft - up to 750 km in the case of Seeker 400.

The IDEX show daily, produced by IHS Jane's, suggested that the South African Air Force has ordered the type. However, at the time of publication the SAAF had not responded to a request for comment on the possible UAV acquisition or whether 10 Squadron, which operated the Kentron Seeker RPV in the late 80s, will be re-activated.

agaugust:
1. Thanks for admitting South Africans have made this forum silly

2. I am not the only one complaining about how you Southies have devalued this thread/forum this year 2015, go back pages and see other people complaining and leaving or cutting down their time input to very little.

3. Year 2012-2014 researchers were visiting this forum to gather facts and figures. Now 2015 South Africans see nothing wrong in turning it into a silly forum. Shows how little value your Soweto brain places on education and information.

4. Yes, I will go off and on this forum, won't invest my time in silly discussions with South Africans struck down by inferiority complex everytime they debate with Nigerians who liberated them from the Boer white-masters prison yard, the whites never wanted to hand over South Africa's greatness to you because they know everything you black Sowetans touch becomes silly eventually
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You didn't need to type any of this. You could have just left. just leave if u want. Dont log back in...simple. you don't need a resignation letter or anything. It's cool guy...don't stress.

agaugust:
[size=16pt]This forum is not worth the time, look at a South African's comment above
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You dont even have to annouce such. Just quietly leave if you want. You dont owe anyone anything. This forum, however stupid it is, will carry on with or without you.

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85 Combat Flying School. Every year pilots graduate from the Hawks onto the Gripen. Many Hawk pilots are fully trained on the Gripen, but are instructors at 85 Combat School. So let those fools keep saying we only have 9 Gripen pilots. Let them try attack SA with their 3 F7 jets.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQDhYxYKmI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo07sE-UVko&feature


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9AEHbswjug&feature

Gripens and Hawks coming in to land yesterday. Waterkloof Air Base, Pretoria

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Nice SA Special Forces video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQm50m7F8aY&feature

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by defenceWeb, February 20, 10:00 am

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Maritime Systems (OSI) has been awarded a contract to provide the South African Navy with Tactical-Asset Control and Tracking Systems (T-ACT) that will be installed on rigid-hull inflatable boats used to support maritime security operations.

The Canadian company said the contract was signed earlier this month, but due to competitive and contractual obligations, OSI could not divulge further details.T-ACT is a navigation and command, control and communication suite designed for small craft operations, including maritime and boarder security agencies.

The system can be used to coordinate the operations of multiple T-ACT fitted ships and smaller assets, in either an overt or covert manner.Fully scalable, T-ACT is a small craft human-machine interface (HMI) embedded with Electronic Chart Precise Integrated Navigation System (ECPINS) Small Craft - a variant of ECPINS designed specifically for use in confined space environments and with an emphasis on tactical navigation functionality, OSI said.Combined with a secure data link, communication is enabled beyond-line-of-sight between mother ships and small craft.

The technology has been deployed by the UK, Australian and Canadian Navies.OSI Maritime Systems has been providing advanced integrated navigation and tactical solutions to military customers for over 20 years. The company develops and delivers integrated bridge systems for warships, integrated dived navigation systems for submarines, and command and control systems for small craft. OSI currently has 19 naval customers from around the world with over 500 warships and submarines operating with its integrated navigation and tactical solutions.

SA Airforce Oryx dropping men on SA Navy sub yesterday.

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SA Navy S101 submarine out yesterday.

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Gripens and Hawks over Waterkloof AFB Pretoria today.


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Seeker 400 now in production for undisclosed (think north africa) customer. Lil birdy makes me believe that Armscor will issue a tender on behalf of the SANDF for something similar in the not too far future.

[b]"The Seeker 400 builds on the successful technology developed by Denel Dynamics for its Seeker 2 and Seeker 200, which has been operational in the United Arab Emirates. It is a larger aircraft, has a cruising speed of 150km/h and can carry a payload of 100 kg.

The Seeker 400 has the ability to simultaneously carry two different payloads such as synthetic aperture radar, optronics turret and a digital video system. The payloads can be interchanged in the field, allowing the Seeker to be tailored for different tactical situations.The Seeker 400 can be used for a wide range of military and civilian missions, including maritime surveillance and disaster reconnaissance. It has up to 16 hours endurance at altitudes of up to 18 000 ft.

At typical operating altitudes of between 4 500 and 9 000 ft, it is not visible to people on the ground and is effectively inaudible.The UAV's line-of-sight range is 250 km from its ground station, but this can be doubled by using a forward ground station with deployed forces. This involves the UAV being launched from a convenient airfield and flown to the area of operations, where it is handed-over to the forward ground station to control during the actual mission."[/b]

Troop101:
Tender Notice Type: Tender Notice Country : South Africa
Tender Category: Marine , Defence
Description: Offshore patrol vessel vessels (offshore patrol vessels) and three inshore patrol vessel vessels (coastal patrol vessels)
Action Deadline: 30 Jun 2015 Ref. no.: 25097898
View Tender Details: View Details
Tender Notice Type: Tender Notice Country : South Africa
Tender Category: Marine , Defence
Description: Supply of 3 multi-mission offshore patrol vessels
Action Deadline: 30 Jun 2015 Ref. no.: 24998490
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Yep. Same Project Biro they said is only coming 2050

MikeCZAR:
The A-Darter has range of 20km, useless in a BVR environment. The Brazilians use "miles".

An interim missile will be bought. The development of the A-Darter was slow because of funding.

Last article i posted the Brazillian Airforce says maximum range is (12 miles) 19km. Perhaps 1km of range was sacrificed to accomodate some or other engineering solution.

MikeCZAR:
It is actually a family of missiles air to air, surface to air etc

But air to air will be the priority as the A-Darter is heading to production soon, then SAAF will start looking for a BVR missile to arm the Gripens. The Meteor missile is likely to be bought a close gap similar to the IRIS-T.

We'll have to see if they purchase an interim missile. With A Darter having a range of 19km, and can also be used as a self defence missile....they might stick with it until development of Marlin family of missiles is complete. Marlin project development will be far quicker and less risky than Umkhonto and A Darter. Denel has been working on the radar for close to ten years. Mechanical hardware will be used from Umkhonto and A Darter where applicable.

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Denel Dynamics is showing a model of its Raptor III precision stand-off weapon for the first time, in the company’s display outside Hangar 4. The weapon is tailored to a strategic mission against high-value targets, which are often hardened and well-defended.

Like its predecessor, the Raptor II, the new weapon has pop-out wings to extend range. However, the Raptor III is aerodynamically cleaner with its systems being housed within the weapon body.Other systems, such as infrared seeker, have also been improved. The programme is currently in the development stage.Raptor III is a long-range (less than 300km) weapon that can be programmed to fly a variety of flightpaths.

It is guided by jam-resistant GNSS (global navigation satellite system) and inertial navigation, with optional low-light TV or imaging infrared terminal-phase seekers.Automatic target recognition algorithms allow the weapon to identify its target and guide itself to impact with a circular error probability of less than 3m. Blast/frag and penetration warhead options are available.

Attack profiles are best planned on the ground for optimal mission planning, but the Raptor III has a datalink for in-flight target reprogramming. The weapon can be fully integrated with an aircraft’s fire control system, or linked to the carrier’s system by wireless transmission.

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Denel Marlin 100km range surface to air missile

Unguided tests to start 2016. To equip South African Navy and Army. All weather, radar guided missile.

BACK TO THE "MILITARY" FORUM

South African A Darter missile in final tests

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The A-Darter fifth generation air-to-air missile has undergone further testing, with a successful launch on Monday. During the most recent test, from a South African Air Force Gripen fighter, an A-Darter was launched at a target drone on a perpendicular trajectory to the launch aircraft, and at substantial distance. The missile's targeting system locked on to the target, flying 600 metres above the launch aircraft, the Brazilian Air Force said.

The success of the flight test marks one of the final stages of the missile development. According to Brazilian Air Force Colonel Julius Caesar Cardoso Tavares, the project manager for Brazil, with this release A-Darter is over 90% complete. It is expected that production will commence before the end of this year and the programme will be ready in the first half of 2016, and should eventually equip the Brazilian Air Force's Gripen NG fighters as well as the Gripen C/Ds and Hawks of the South African Air Force.

According to Tavares, the main feature of the latest generation of missiles is the ability to perform high-performance manoeuvres. "The guidance sensor detects the target and the missile then calculates the best route to intercept."The A-Darter is the flagship project of Denel Dynamics, the division in the group responsible for advanced systems technology in the missile and UAV environments.

With a length of 2.98 meters and weighing 90 kg, the A-Darter is not fitted with the normal small forward wings used for manoeuvring. Instead, the missile steers by directing the thrust of its rocket engine. It is thus able to perform manoeuvres that include load factors of up to 100 g, when the most modern fighter jets cannot exceed 9 g.Guided by a heat-seeking homing head, the A-Darter also can "see" more of an infrared frequency and can thus avoid being deceived by "flares", incandescent bait thrown by enemy aircraft to confuse missiles.Its maximum range is 12 miles (19 km).

The development partnership between South Africa and Brazil on the A-Darter began in 2006 and the goal is that both countries produce components for future exports. "In future, sales will be shared. There is already as agreement between the companies," said Tavares.South Africa, with missile development experience since the 1960s, sought to partner with Brazil due to the complexity of the project. "It's a high-tech missile," said Tavares. He said the A-Darter has innovations dominated by few countries in the world, which is not transferred when there is the purchase of weapons. "No one teaches how to do that," he said.

Three hundred million Brazilian r'eals (R1.3 billion) have been invested in the A-Darter so far, half being directed to Brazilian companies including Mectron, Avibras and Optoelectronics.

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SA's SAS Spioenkop going out to meet HMS Dragon

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craziebone:
it is because you have Nigerians working there.

In One of the few times i was watching the big brother show and they were showing the cast names of all of the crew people, i saw 90 percent Nigerian names! I was a bit shocked that we are the ones running your company. lol. In almost every department of those companies you are so proud of are Nigerians. Nigerians make your companies work. We also make ours work too. We have the richest people on the continent. The biggest entertainment industry on the continent was concieved and built by Nigerians, fact! The first African auto mobile is Nigerian, fact! We have a world class rail network, fact! We have the best ways to distribute fertilizers on the continent.

Your uncle selling drugs in Hillbrow is lying to you.

Sasol - no Nigerians
Transnet - no Nigerians
Denel - no Nigerians
South African Breweries - no Nigerians
SAA - no Nigerians
CSIR - no Nigerians
Vodacom/MTN/Cell C etc - no Nigerians
PetroSA - no Nigerians
Our Mining industry - no Nigerians
Hundreds of engineering workshops on the East Rand of Gauteng where I live and work - definitely NO Nigerians. You're more likely to bump into a unicorn than find a Nigerian fitter and turner in Gauteng.

The list goes on and on. The percentage of Nigerians who work in SA's key industries is a non entity. As i said, don't let uncle Ogubugu who came here in 1996 lie to you.

I'll tell you what Nigerians are very good at doing in SA. They're good at opening "internet cafes", "computer shops" and hair salons. Where ever they settle, they completely destroy property prices and quality of living if they're numbers arent kept in check. Thats the mistake which was made in Hillbrow and Berea, Johannesburg. That part of Joburg just needs to be nuked. Same mistake on the East Rand, Germiston and Springs. As soon as a small Nigerian community moves in, all hell breaks loose.

So no....Nigerians are not high powered CEO's and executives running our big industries. They are not bright engineers and technicians coming up with new ideas at the CSIR and Denel. They are unwanted rats, hated on every corner of this planet.

If the world was to have a vote. Which immigrant nationality is hated the most....Nigerians would win the gold, silver and bronze.

How our top POLICE unit trains. Lets not even get into our special forces (more people have climbed Mt Everest than made it in). How real, hard men train. Enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mv2vg0oZA

overhypedsteve:
do I still have to debate your dumbness with you? The man said, the Nigerian army is among the world strongest armies, and then being incapable of differenciating between the different branch of the nations military you went ahead to start asking if the army can deploy jet fighters? Boss! Isn't that the duty of the Air force and the Navy in some more advanced country like Nigeria( the only African country with advanced air assets in the naval air wing.

Army and air force fight hand in hand. Good army with no air force is on a suicide mission. Navy is optional, depending on geography. But since you jumped in, back up your "military expert".........which North American, South American, Western/Eastern European, Asian ARMIES can the Nigerian ARMY take on in a full blown convensional war? Rendering it "one of the best in the world".

I stopped watching that useless video when the "military expert" said Nigeria has one of the strongest armies in the world. Almost fell of my chair with laughter. Which North American, South American, Western/Eastern European and Asian militaries can Nigeria with it's 3 F7 jets go to full blown war with? So which world was he talking about? West Africa?

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-37865/

WORLD CLASS SOUTH AFRICAN ENGINEERING

A-Darter missile heading for production

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Denel's A-Darter air-to-air missile passed critical in-flight guided tests in recent weeks and production of this fifth-generation missile system is expected to start before the end of 2015.

Components for the missile are manufactured in both South Africa and Brazil and Denel Dynamics is the Original Equipment Manufacturer. Brazil has invested 300 million Reals (R1.3 billion) in the project, half of which has gone to Brazilian companies such as Mectron, Avibras and Optoelectronics, which have been working with Denel Dynamics on the project since 2006. One of Brazil's main reasons for becoming involved in the project is technology transfer and Brazilian engineers have been working closely with those in South Africa.

The A-Darter is aimed to be fitted to both Gripen and Hawk aircraft of the South African Air Force. There is also talk of integrating the infrared guided weapon onto Brazil's AMX aircraft. Brazil will initially buy a hundred missiles for its Gripens, as part of an initial production run of around 250 missiles


The missile's agility will enable it to handle close combat situations with ease and it also features lock-on after launch and memory tracking capabilities. Among its features are advanced digital processing capabilities to ensure improved performance in terms of image detection, false target rejection, electronic counter-counter-measures, guidance and control.

The Brazilian Air Force said the A-Darter is ten times more manoeuvrable than a fighter aircraft, able to perform manoeuvres that generate up to 100 g, whereas most modern fighter jets can only withstand around 9 g. Measuring 2.98 meters in length and weighing 90 kg, the new missile is notable because of the absence of the small forward wings used for control - instead the A-Darter is able to direct the thrust of its rocket engine. Maximum range is 12 kilometres, according to the Brazilian Air Force.


"Heat-seeking, the A-Darter has a guidance system so sensitive that just after firing it can make a sharp turn and hit targets that are chasing the launcher plane. Today, fourth generation missiles can hit targets that are, at best, next to the launcher plane. The guidance sensor can also 'see' more of the infrared frequency band, and thereby avoid being fooled by flares - incandescent bait thrown to confuse missiles," Tavares said.


After the successful A-Darter project, Brazil and South Africa plan to further cooperate in missile development, notably on the 100 km range Marlin radar-guided air-to-air weapon, which will be developed into an all-weather surface-to-air missile (SAM) that can be used by the South African and Brazilian Navies



Article was edited for shorter reading. And to that fool on this forum who says the Badger IFV is obsolete because the basic concept/idea was first thought of in 1997.....A Darter was first conceptualized in 1995. And is now one of the best short range air-air missiles you'll find anywhere in the solar system. Like i told you fool, we design and optimize for FUTURE requirements

agaugust:
History records that Chad is operating under a Multinational Joint Task Force commanded by Nigeria.

History records facts, not rants
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Commanded by Nigeria. Then two seconds later you say Chad officers are taking orders from the French.

So what exactly will history records show? That Nigeria had absolutely nothing to do with commanding Chad's soldiers

agaugust:
1. The North East war zone is bigger than the whole country of Great Britain.

2. Not all 130,000 men in the army are combatants, and not all are men, many are female.

3. If Chad and Cameroon don't join the fight from their borders into Nigerian border towns, most Boko Haram fighters will escape into Chad and Cameroon, then the war will never end, Chad and Cameroon will be the new victims. Proof : Yesterday Bokos fled Nigerian town ofGamboru into Cameeroonian town of Fotokol as new safe haven, Cameroonian army attacked them from there or else the Bokos will build a new camp, rearm, recruit, and start all over again to fight.

As at yesterday, Boko Haram has started to slice civilan throats and burn mosques inside Cameroon, so if they wish ,
Chad and Cameroon can sit down at home and watch Nigeria fighting alone, when we finish pushing Boko Haram escapees into theirs countries, it will become their problem. We didn't beg anybody to come join us in the fight.

How will you understand? You have no pure motive, you have bad intentions, all you want to do is falsify and twist news reports to ridicule Nigeria....so how will your brain work properly when you have a Satanic agenda ?

To everyone anywhere in the world that ridicules Nigeria : May your own nation see a worse insurgency at home in Jesus name amen !
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1. So what? Is a land mass the size of Britain too big for the Nigerian Army? All attacks are focused on villages which are known and can be secured.

2. Then dont u dare ever use that 130 000 number here. Even if only 60 000 are fighting troops. You outnumber Boko Haram by two to one.

3. Chad does NOT need to enter Nigeria. The mighty Nigerian army can flush Boko Haram out in the direction of the shared border, with Chad and Cameroon finishing them off on the borderline. If Nigeria was doing its job properly, not a single Chad toe-nail would have enteted Nigeria.

They cannot and will not answer the fundamental question.....with their "130 000 strong" army, why does one single Chad boot need to enter Nigeria? The same results could have been achieved with each respective country pushing Boko Haram to a central point from their own side of the border, then finishing them off.

The state of Nigeria's true fighting power has been exposed. They needed mommy Chad to come help wipe their ass*s. Then hide behind the " joint multinational blah blah blah" excuse.