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Question....have the Nigerian army rescued the girls yet? No? Okay? I'll be back again next year

Interesting reading some of the projects the SANDF has contracted Armscor to secure in 2014.

http://www.armscor.co.za/Tenders/TenderYearRecords.asp?TYear=2014&TStatus=1


- Retrofit of the SANDF''s 9,3 M C-Band Satellite Earth Station Antenna

-Support of the Milan 3 ADT missile system (including firing unit and training simulator)

-Maintenance and repair of 10 x Megaray 175 illuminator systems for Special Forces

-TETHERED AEROSTAT SYSTEM

-Procurement of intelligence tactical surveillance crew kit equipment

-Specialist in-service support for the Gripen flight test centre of the SAAF

-SAAF Electronic warfare centre technical support

-HF Tactical radio communication systems for transmission, emission and/or reception of various signs, signals, text, images, sounds or information of any nature by wire, radio, visual or other electromagnetic systems for the SA Air Force

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28343074

Nigeria's Goodluck Jonathan seeks $1bn to fight Boko Haram



Nigeria's President Goodluck Jonathan wants the government to borrow $1bn (£580m) to strengthen the military's capability to fight militant Islamists.Mr Jonathan wrote to parliament, asking for the expenditure to be approved.Nigeria has a military budget of about $6.3bn a year but large sums are lost to corruption, critics say.

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Mr Jonathan said there was an "urgent need" to upgrade the equipment, training and logistics of the armed forces and security services to help them confront the "serious threat" posed by Boko Haram."For this reason, I seek the concurrence of the National Assembly for external borrowing of not more than $1bn," he said.


http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28343074

I'll just leave this here :-)

patches689: Which is why no one has written an article or ever even said that Nigeria has BB

Or that BB is common.

You are actually destroying your argument

No. No one will just randomly out of boredom type an article saying all these countries do not hav something. Which is what that fool is asking....proof that someone doesnt have something. If base bleed is common, it would be logged. Would be very easy to find.

agaugust: Nice way for you to confess that you have no proof.

BTWN, base bleed shell definitions and diagrams are splashed all over google and internet, more pages and details than you can ever finish reading. Mugu

You think i dont know that you just googled more about them now 5 minutes ago? Waste someone else's time fool. You are asking me to show you proof that a certain country DOES NOT have a certain product? Are you mentally well?

You think there are people out there who write articles about which products country X does not have? As opposed to what it does have? Shame...stupidity is a funny thing

In other news Denel is developing a tripod version of it's Ingwe anti armour missile. So this battle proven missile will be man portable. So currently the SANDF (through Armscor) is funding a number of different missile programs to meet future requirements.

agaugust: Prove me wrong if you can.

Anyway, how far with your fake spy satellite of South Africa you cooked up here some months ago?

I had sex with a really hot alien from outer space last week...prove me wrong if you can. Unlike other people on this site i waste very little time on your stupidity. You didnt know what base bleed projectiles are/were....simple. very simple. Just bow your head in shame and say sorry so people can move on

patches689: No, a "video" of a demonstration for the public is not a "respectable source"

Yet again, you only have one source that supports your argument and I have multiple sources that say otherwise. Indeed, every single source on the topic says otherwise.

I must only conclude that you are not academically trained (ie: Not University Educated) as you seem to be unable to be able to conduct (or even comprehend) an empirical argument.

Your own favorit website - Army Guide clearly states - 30km

FH-77B has a maximum range of 30km. Confirmed by the rest of the world. And no, Base-Bleed is not "common" or "ordinary" here are only a few companies in the world that make it and only a few militaries in the world who use it. I dont think you know what base bleed projectiles are.

Furthermore, I have shown you have been lying about the FH-77 B05 L52 (a lie you have been telling for years now)

Show us where the Nigerian Navy said Aradu is operational. Show us pictures of the Aradu at sea. What we know about the Aradu is what the whole defence community tells us - it is not operational.

You say the Valour Class will catch Otomats if they fight the Aradu?

I doubt it, the crew of the Aradu is so incompetent they have crashed it over 7 times. The Aradu is more of a danger to itself than it is to enemy combatants.

And, non-operational warships cannot fight battles.

"Ordinary base bleed that is common in Africa"....nope he has no clue what he's talking about. As usual.

I'll just leave this here...

http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Nigerian-troops-burn-buses-in-Lagos-20140704-2

Nigerian troops burn buses in Lagos

Lagos - Nigerian soldiers blocked roads, fired shots into the air and burned several buses in Lagos on Friday after a soldier was killed in a bus accident, an episode residents said recalled the country's former military dictatorship.

Nigeria has been a democracy since shortly after the death of military ruler Sani Abacha 1998, but rights groups say abuses and indiscipline by its troops remain a problem, especially in the remote northeast, where an Islamist insurgency threatens stability across Africa's largest economy and top oil producer.

"The rampaging soldiers already burnt five... buses," Femi Oke-Osanyitolu, director general of the National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA) for Lagos state, told Reuters by telephone, calling it "barbaric and uncivilised."

SAAF Air Capability Demo October 2013

Pics probably posted before. Haven't been here in a while


https://www.defenceweb.co.za/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/saaf_air_capability_demonstration_october_2013_93/saaf_air_capability_demo_october_2013_22_20131025_1603730761.jpg

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/saaf_air_capability_demonstration_october_2013_93/saaf_air_capability_demo_october_2013_21_20131025_1264377111.jpg

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/saaf_air_capability_demonstration_october_2013_93/saaf_air_capability_demo_october_2013_5_20131025_2077354342.jpg

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/saaf_air_capability_demonstration_october_2013_93/saaf_air_capability_demo_october_2013_7_20131025_1229716304.jpg

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/saaf_air_capability_demonstration_october_2013_93/saaf_air_capability_demo_october_2013_10_20131025_1220585676.jpg

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]nigerian army's new long range 60km k.iller artillery[/size]

truck towed at 80km/hr to 90km/hr speed on ground to close-in on enemy

self mobile without being towed at speed 8km/hr

fires 60km range artillery shells on enemy targets 60km away

fully computerized targeting and navigation systems

48 units in service with nigerian army

one of the best advanced systems and longest range modern artillery guns in the world

matches and can k.ill south african G6 artillery guns in battle

proves that south african army has NO significant artillery gun range advantage over nigeria.

http://beegeagle./2010/05/20/nigerian-army-inventory-as-of-2009/


nigerian army ultra-modern FH-77 B05 L52 artillery gun type....hiding in the bush to hit the enemy 60km away

https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/europe/united_kingdom/weapons/fh77_towed_howitzer/FH77_B05_L52_155mm_towed_howitzer_artillery_weapon_system_BAE_Systems_United_Kingdom_British_640.jpg

Your small brain is confusing two different variants of this gun. Only India and Sweden have the 60km range gun, not Nigeria. Now go think of another lie to tell.

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agaugust: .


[size=16pt] Nigerian made Epe Rockets now in combat service.... [/size]



there is 'insider' information that nigerian made Epe rockets have secretly entered combat service and is being used by nigerian air force jet fighters and helicopter gunships.

the rockets are of various sizes and ranges, which are also being improved and upgraded regularly as more research and development continues secretly at the Epe missile/rocketry/space/satellite site in a tightly secured and 'no public entry' Lagos waterfront area/island location.

the information from the 'insider' source says the air force has produced its own launchers for the air to ground rockets, while the army is working hard on its own launchers for the bigger and longer range ground to ground artillery rockets, surface to air anti-aircraft missiles versions, and also working with the navy to build land to sea versions in anti-ship missile modes, though source said the anti-aircraft and anti-ship versions will take a longer time to complete than the army ground to ground versions which will be ready likely next year 2014, while the air force version is already in full use and service having being configured by nigerian air force research institute for all combat aircraft to be armed with.

asked to provide some 'proof', the 'insider' source said ...."people have been seeing it but they dont know it is from that Epe site as the first version/model with a range maximum 10km or thereabout "...he then referred to the photo and link below...

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2013/07/naf-rocketpods1.jpg?w=640[/img]



http://beegeagle./2013/07/08/made-in-nigeria-rocket-pod-at-the-nigerian-air-force-air-expo-2012-world-exclusive-photos-props-henry-a-beegeagles-blogger/


for south africans who said nigeria is only firing rockets into sea waters at Epe project site, nigerians laugh at you again

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/national-news/132850-nigeria-resumes-rocket-testing-


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You logged on, decided to type all of this about unguided rockets? Unguided aim and shoot rockets You are more delusional than I thought. Let us assume your source is real (which we all know he's not ).....you are completely and utterly out of your depth if you believe Nigeria will develop anything resembling the pic below in the next year. In the next ten years for that matter. Stop believing the voices in your head fool.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/30/article-2136795-00460B0700000258-473_634x386.jpg

agaugust: most of the above is just a wish list and day dream of south african military.

south african government has no money to waste any more on defence.

south african CANNOT raise money to maintain the weapons it already has.

only 8 pilots for 26 Gripen jets.

12 Gripen jets are in long term 'deep freezer' cold storage.

only 11 Exocet missiles remain instead of 32 Exocet missiles for 4 valour frigates.

only 46 G6 artillery and 11 Rooivalk helicopters have been purchased since 20 years ago.

stop daydreaming bros, south africa is NOT buying any new major military equipment due to lack of money

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1. You say only 11 Exocet missiles REMAIN from the original number we bought. Meaning you know full well that Exocet missiles
have been fired/tested by our Navy. But 3 days ago you were demanding proof that we have fired any Exocet missiles in tests. Fool

2. Project Hoefyster costing R8billion was signed and sealed 3 weeks ago. Production and industrialization of the Badger IFV has started. You call that a wish list? The other projects are going through the same process Badger did 2/3 years ago. Fool

3. There are more than 8 Gripen pilots, and NO Gripens are in storage. Fool

NO SAAF GRIPENS IN STORAGE - GENERAL

https://www.saairforce.co.za/seed/public/files/aircraft_images/20/4a312f93968d3_large.jpg

http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1237/saaf-jets-arent-in-storage-says-general

The fuel is only R11 a litre but it costs about R135 400 an hour to keep a Gripen fighter jet in the air.

The Hawk trainer fighter jets are a bit cheaper, at about R82 900 per flying hour.

This was divulged by General John Bayne at the Arms Procurement Commission on Tuesday.

Bayne is the director of combat systems for the South African Air Force, responsible for the Gripen and Hawk systems.

Bayne said the “dry costs” (without fuel) for a Gripen were R104 600 per flying hour and fuel cost R30 800, giving a total “wet cost” of R135 400. Hawks fly at a dry cost of R67 500, with fuel costs of R15 400 and a total
cost of R82 900.

The SAAF bought 26 Gripen fighter jets and 24 Hawk trainer fighters in the 1999 arms deal, which the commission is investigating.

“To date the Hawks have flown over 10 000 major accident-free flying hours since 2005 and the Gripens 3 500 since 2008,” said Bayne.

He said there had been “some minor accidents and incidents, like on all aircraft fleets”.

Bayne touched on the controversial issue of whether the fighter jets were in long-term storage.

Earlier this year, Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula caused some confusion by telling Parliament that 12 of the Gripens were in long-term storage because there was not funding to fly them; then last month she told Parliament that none of the Gripens or Hawks were in storage.

Bayne said the SAAF had found that it was better - and cheaper - not to put the aircraft into long-term storage even though budgets were tight this year. “We were warned that this would be a particularly tough financial year.”

Bayne said the SAAF had discussed the storage and maintenance issue with the aircrafts’ manufacturer, Saab, earlier this year after initially storing 12 Gripens, and then set up a less costly process. This reduced the maintenance hours required for storage and made the aircraft more readily available for flying.

“With both these aircraft it would be far more costly and require much more maintenance putting them into long-term storage,” he said.

They now use a rotational preventive maintenance programme which involves flying the aircraft every now and then.

All 26 Gripens are flown and managed in this way, Bayne added.

Some are put under “tents” to slow the corrosion process while the aircraft are standing.

The SAAF uses a three-tier system with the fighter aircraft. This means the fighter pilots start training on the Pilatus aircraft, then move on to the Hawk trainers, then the Gripens.

The Hawk is used as both a trainer and a fighter jet in its own right.

“The SAAF today has an excellent, well-balanced and well-equipped fighter-system capability within the ideal three-tier system wherein the gap is higher between the first and second tier and relatively small between the second and third tier,” said Bayne.

He said the training success rate was very high for air crew, both men and women.

Bayne said Hawks and Gripens had been well utilised in line with the current security environment.

He emphasised the need to retain the fighters as part of the SANDF’s deterrent force.

agaugust: Proves nothing you claimed.

Proves me right.

Proves you wrong.

show us , i said you should show us proof/source where south africa test fired any single one of its 17 Exocet missiles from a valour frigate.

also show us where DENEL test fired its over-rated Umkhonto anti-aircraft missile to stop your south african navy Exocet anti-ship missile to prove the false claim that it can work against sea skimming water hugging missiles. show us proof.

maybe your 33% soweto brain never tells you that testing a missile against a sky flying drone in the air is NOT the same as testing it against a sea water surface hugging anti-ship missile.

your little brain too does not tell you and @saengine that those umkhonto missile tests were done by DENEL as a company marketing its product, NOT south african navy test firing the umkhonto it has purchased and fire from a valour frigate.

it was DENEL that traveled to finland to test umkhonto missile against a drone for marketing purposes, NOT south african navy sailing warship to finland to test fire umkhonto missile.....you really to be spanked until your bum is sore

is there no better thinking brain in south africa than the ones we see here on nairaland ?

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I've already posted pics of the South African Navy firing Umkhonto. Read this comment from Janes Defence, the most respected Defence body in the world.

http://www.janes.com/article/28033/land-based-umkhonto-fired-for-the-first-time

"The SAN (South African Navy) has carried out multiple successful Umkhonto launches against LOCATS and Skua high-speed targets, and the Finnish Navy has scored kinetic kills against Banshee targets with at least three telemetry rounds.

The SAN has also demonstrated the Umkhonto in its alternate anti-ship role, which showed that pre-fragmented warheads would destroy most of a warship's sensor antennas. "



That means the South African Navy has fired its own missiles in its own tests. I know that is hard for your small brain to believe

The Finnish Navy has also fired its own Umkhonto missiles in its own tests. Again, hard for your small brain to believe

Finnish Navy firing Umkhonto Missile

https://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/517/Hanko_-_Hamina_class_missile-boat_has_fired_Umkhonto-IR_SAM.jpg

agaugust: show me proof that south african navy has test fired even only one of its 17 Exocet missiles since about 7 years ago your navy purchased the missiles.

try show me how DENEL tested its Umkhonto missiles as defense against one south african Exocet missile. show us the proof. we are waiting

the photo below is nigerian navy test firing one of our missiles. date of test is not disclosed by nigerian navy. photo is from nigerian navy official website.

click the weblink below, put your mouse/cursor on the "operations and support" menu but no clicks, and this photo below will appear.

proves we test fire missiles without making public noise about it. missiles are expensive to waste.

one single otomat missile of NNS Aradu costs half a million dollars.

one single PL-9C missile of F-7 jet costs $1 million !!!!!

a missile and a bullet are not the same price in the market. use your head before you write comments.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1356322_NN_5_jpg851459f279500edc099d3f7f731eb45e

http://www.navy.mil.ng/Exercises

THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST OWN GOALS IN THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE

This not only proves that you yourself don't know what you are talking about, it also shows that your naval admirals just grab any
photo from the internet and use it as their own. I guess since fools like you log onto that so called website, it's easy for them to trick you illiterates into believing anything. This photo has nothing to do with the Nigerian navy at all.


First all of that is an Exocet missile being fired. A missile that Nigeria doesn't even have to begin with . That test firing was a Hellenic Navy firing an Exocet MM-38 missile. Can you not see the GREEK flag on the ship you retard? Now run away in shame...fool.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/248068/thread/1181834838/1181880728/login?action=signup

https://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w162/sfinias/exo1.jpg

It must be really sad when you talk about weapons you have but can only post pics of OTHER countries firing them, not your own. Infact it's not sad....its actually quite funny. I wonder why Nigerian admirals are so scared of going out to sea and firing weapons in exercises. Maybe because they don't know how to use them.....haha. I wonder if the Nigerian Air Force has ever fired a missile in a live simulation? Some pics would be nice. Im starting to think they buy them from China or wherever and only plan on taking them out of the package on the day of the fight. Hehe

Proudly South African Engineering

Umkhonto Surface to Air missile being fired from ground based unit.
Work on a 20km+ version is continuing swiftly

https://www.janes.com/images/assets/033/28033/p1513576.jpg

https://www.janes.com/images/assets/033/28033/1513577-main.jpg

agaugust: everything about south african weapons technical details/specifications is available on free public internet....thats why civilians know how to sink your valour frigate from the air

nigeria too is confirmed to have a rockets/missile project with lost of test firing....technical details NOT freely given to public by the nigerian military....wisdom !

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You think knowing the range of a missile means you know the technical details and specifications? Please post the tracking and trajectory algorithms that Umkhonto uses in order to shoot down a target. There a hundreds of American, British, German etc etc weapons with range and other general details posted on the net. Mokopa anti tank missile - range 10km. Hellfire anti tank missile - range 8km. Are the engineers that produce the Hellfire missile stupid for posting their 8km details? No. So keep quiet fool.

Nigeria has no technical details because Nigeria has no operational missiles. You're firing unguided rockets into the sea. You wish you had technical details.

Good news about Umkhonto.

Summary:

* Umkhonto Surface to Air Block 2 used by SA and Finland 15km range
* Block 2 can also be used in a light anti-ship role destroying the commuication and sensor setup
*Extended range Block 2/3 (20km ) can now be fired by ground forces
* Denel is developing an even longer range Umkhonto
* Most importantly....proudly South African

Augustine Again: how will south african special forces leave your ship on a boat from high seas and enter nigerian shores, land, walk into nigerian navy base, enter NNS Aradu and put explosives on the nigerian warship inside nigerian navy base with nigerian soldiers and navy special forces all around ?

you mean your navy men use african spiritual power to move around invisible or what ? you must have received kolomental brain damage from NNS Aradu Otomat missile and your head don dey scatter and your hair turn to dada

NNS Aradu is in safe harbour. all over the world, giant ships dont run aground inside a naval base harbour. Fool

Egypt's navy docked a warship in safe harbour during Arab-Israeli war and it fired anti-ahip missile and sank Israeli navy warship that was on the open sea. you dont know ar history and combat tactics. Fool

nigerian navy will sink the whole south african navy fleet of stealth warships in any attempted naval blockage against nigeria. i have proved that FACT !!!

a warship sitting down in safe harbour under will sink an enemy warship that is exposed in the open sea. educate yourself below, soweto fool


"
Service as Eilat and sinking :

But around an hour later, another Egyptian Komar class missile boat from Port Said harbour fired two more Styx missiles at the Eilat. The third missile hit the Eilat amidships, causing more damage and further fires, while the fourth went astray and crashed in the water nearby. The Eilat sank about two minutes later. Out of a crew of 199, 47 were killed and another 41 were wounded "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Zealous_(R39)

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Fool. Reading is fundamental. I said escape from the submarine. SA Navy divers and special forces are trained to exit a submarine while it's still under water using aqualungs. Explosives are placed on the bottom of the ship while under water, so no walking is needed.....making this whole comment of yours a waste of space. Doing this at night would make them harder to find.

All harbours that berth large ships are dug out to make the water deep enough not to run aground. So the point remains....if you have the stupid idea of "hiding" Aradu behind trawlers and rubbish from torpedoes, your Aradu is trapped. Making it a sitting duck.

Hahaha....these so called simulations are funny. You're going to hide Aradu behind what? A fishing trawler? Who does that? . Aradu will run aground in shallow water, so it has to be in deep water. You cant use any natural shallow water obstructions because you would have sunk Aradu trying to get to them. Meaning whatever you hide it behind must be a large heavy structure. A large structure below water makes it impossible for Aradu to move. You've trapped your only ship. It will take you two weeks to find enough material to hide it in deep water from torpedos, and another two weeks to remove that material.

If your naval commanders are dumb enough to do that, our special forces will thank you very much. Under the cover of darkness they get deployed from submarines and simply place explosives on Aradu. Very easy job. In 20/30m of water there's very little chance of being detected. There goes your rust buck, up in flames. And dont say this is impossible. SA special forces placed tracking devices on Russian ships in Mozambiquean ports during the Border War....did it numerous times without being detected.

And in other news Denel has started full production of the Badger IFV for the SANDF.

agaugust: do you south africans know the meanining of MRAP ? tell us the definition

also show us neutral and technically competent source that says south african MRAPS are the only ones that are effective, while Israeli, Russian or German MRAPS are failures.

i dont know again if you south africans are on this forum to inform people or just to attack everything i say even if it will make you look like big time fools

http://www.armyrecognition.com/january_2011_army_military_defense_industry_news/the_new_russian_mrap_wheeled_armoured_vehicle_spm-3_bear_ballistic_enhanced_armour_0601117-7.html

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Those vehicles are designed to dissipate energy during a blast. Mine resistant doesnt mean you can keep driving over land mines like they're nothing. A wheel might be blown off or panels crumble. Go on youtute and see what happens to vehicles that hit IED's. Only the heavier, bulkier vehicles such as the Casspir were able to drive over a few mines.....but even they would eventually be demobalised.

agaugust: land mines CANNOT stop nigerian army, we have hundreds of Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, and we are manufacturing about 3 different types in nigeria so soon we will have thousands of MRAPS.

nigerian army is NOT Togolese or Congolese army....please s.hut up, and stop fooling around !

You think those vehicles will hit a land mine and KEEP GOING? Hahaha....ok then

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/denel-spaceteq-inducted-into-international-astronautical-federation-2013-09-23

Denel Spaceteq inducted into International Astronautical Federation


The Denel group’s newly created space engineering business unit Spaceteq has been inducted into the International Astronautical Federation (IAF) at the sixty-fourth annual International Astronautical Congress (IAC) currently under way in Beijing, China.The South African defence group said in a statement that the IAF membership was a significant one, as the federation recognised international administrators, industrialists, scientists, engineers, technologists, astronauts and cosmonauts involved in all global space programmes. .Denel subsidiary Denel Dynamics CEO Tsepo Monaheng said the formal induction and membership into the IAF would assist Spaceteq in successfully entering the space industry and would enable the unit to establish international networks.

“It marks another step towards our nation and the continent playing a role within the international space community,” he commented.Significantly, the IAF provides platforms through which members could share research and information, with the aim of enabling international cooperation and knowledge sharing.“Space is a new frontier for Africa and this formal induction into the global space community means that South Africa is getting noticed for the work it has achieved in space science and technology,” said Monaheng.Spaceteq’s induction follows a renewed focus by South Africa on space exploration, which has resulted in the creation of a South African space policy and strategy, as well as the creation of the South African National Space Agency.“Being in space is about stimulating a high-tech economy and developing a knowledge economy. It will put South Africa on the map as a space nation – producing and using space data and science to solve our country’s developmental challenges,” Monaheng asserted.

Any other African bodies part of this federation?

DENEL RETURNS TO SPACE INDUSTRY

Fuelled by South African rocket science and satellite technology Denel has launched Spaceteq as a newly-formed space engineering business unit.This follows the incorporation of satellite manufacturer SunSpace into the Denel Group in July in a move which optimises the highly-advanced engineering and technology skills between the combined businesses.

Denel chief executive Riaz Saloojee said Spaceteq will strengthen the group's position as a leader in innovative and advanced aerospace systems and technology.Space has been identified as one of South Africa's "five grand challenges." The Departments of Science and Technology (DST) and Trade and Industry (dti) have identified satellite production as a high-technology manufacturing niche that South Africa should be pursuing."Denel Spaceteq is well positioned to play a central role in this national strategy," he said.The new company forms part of Denel Dynamics which has been exploring opportunities in satellite and space engineering in collaboration with the South African National Space Agency (SANSA) and the DST since 2011.

Berthold Alheit, general manager of Denel Spaceteq says its first project is to develop a multispectral, high-resolution, earth observation satellite called EO-Sat1 for operation by SANSA by 2017. This satellite will be used in the areas of food security, urban planning and development, safety and security and support for disaster management. .Denel Spaceteq will represent South Africa at the 64th International Astronautical Congress (IAC) in Beijing, China, next week. The annual IAC's 2013 theme is: promoting space development for the benefit of mankind."While the space domain is a new frontier for the African continent and for Denel Spaceteq, the time is right to market South Africa's strong engineering capability and our culture of co-operation internationally.

Spaceteq's capabilities can be applied to the advancement of solving difficult and large engineering problems in the space arena," Alheit said.Denel Dynamics attended its first IAC in Cape Town in 2011 after teaming up with the Aerospace Industry Support Initiative (AISI) supported by the dti and was involved in various space programmes until 1996. It has a latent space capability, including key staff working for Denel on various programmes, as well as the Houwteq satellite test facility near Grabouw.The high-end engineers and scientists absorbed by Denel from SunSpace brought with them capabilities of their own including the SunSat and SumbandilaSat programmes.

EO-Sat1 will be based on the strong legacy inherited from the development of SumbandilaSat.The benefit of a local space industry will be far reaching Salojee believes. South Africa's access to, and control over, its own satellites will ensure advanced surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities. Retaining and developing technology and engineering skills in the country will have a much broader national technological benefit and inspire young talent in the much-needed fields of maths and science.


When i was doing my vacation work at Denel end of last year the talk was that Denel is going to restart it rocket launch facilities in a few years. So maybe by 2020 Denel will be lauching it's own satellites with its own rockets. Crossing my fingers that i can work for these people one day

agaugust: .

[size=16pt] 59 killed in Kenya shopping mall terrorist attack [/size]


http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/59-killed-in-kenya-mall-attack-hostage-standoff-continues-1.1465284


i am waiting for south africans here to say kenya's army too is weak and failed ...like they say about nigeria....then we will all pray for an islamic terrorist surprise civilian attack on johannesburg city and lets see how your south african army will ensure that NO SINGLE HUMAN BEIGN DIES


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Only post this rubbish when people are killed like this every few days like they are in Nigeria. By the end of next week another attack will wipe out a village in Nigeria.

For me its no longer SA vs Nigeria. These are our African brothers being killed. This must end.

Boko Haram strikes again. 87 killed yesterday. This isnt funny anymore

http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/87-dead-as-Boko-Haram-attacks-Nigerian-town-20130919

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agaugust: your very own source above shows a big news headline that 150 boko haram fighters were killed by nigerian army in the same battle, you are hiding that 150 casualty figure inside your black bum-hole ?




no nigerian soldier was kidnapped according to your own source...you added a big lie to it....i know you for big time fraud

150 boko haram fighers died...nigerian army killed them in ratio 10:1, we won.

about 7,000 american soldiers have been killed by islamic fighters in afghanistan and iraq

lets see your cowardly south african army enter the jungle and fight M23 rebels hand to hand without Tanzania's army leading, guarding, and protecting south african army in Congo DRC

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And then when a Selela commander admitted we killed over 250 men in his unit alone you still refused to admit that we also "won". We had a huge kill ratio, more than 10:1 but your pride was too much to admit that South African soldiers put up a fantastic fight. You made fun on us, you spoke too soon.

Now you have your own CAR/Bangui/Seleka situation on your own hands, and worse ON YOUR HOME SOIL. 16 of your own troops killed on their motherland. 15 of our troops killed 1000's of kilometres from home.....who looks more stupid now. What happened to your so called IFV's....at least you had heavy armour and airforce to back you up. But still.

I dont celebrate death. RIP to those Nigerian soldiers and i hope they find the 9 missing soldiers alive, but this is a lesson to YOU not to talk so fast next time.

And just to add one more bit. This happened over the weekend, but your army only admitted it on Tuesday. What kind of pathetic military structure is that? What were they trying to hide/change in those two days. How long does it take to count 16 bodies?