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seunajia: These guys take us for a ride in this country. They steal us blind and he still has the nerve to chat crap here.

I'm afraid our people are too docile and would never stand-up to these people. It's such a mess. We are the laughingstock of the world. The green passport is not worth the paper it is printed upon.

And he has the nerve? Sopona lo ma pa e! omo irankiran.

I have always seen the elimination of fucktards by suppression, ill-fated death or lynching as useful processes of accelerating progress.

A person like him needs to be eliminated.


SELFWORTH, I am seeing you repeatedly on the viewing list o.

I am still awaiting your response to the question o.

Dibiachukwu: STFU

You are a person!

seunajia: You are a ferking bastard. You useless pig. The youths should hang your likes if this were a country.

You ferking animal. Senseless son of a LovePeddler.

I completely agree.

Oluwaadajo: The only thing you know is person this and person that. I guess this is a common language in your home when growing up.
That’s why many of you will never amount to anything in life.

If only you can spend all that negative energy doing something better with your life who knows? It may yet be that all the time and money spent schooling you is not wasted after all.

You are a person!

I will spend the energy educating fucktards like you that have a right to vote and worship other fucktards.

Your dumbness is a danger to society!

Cretin! You will never have the intellect to achieve 100th of what I achieve. The moorons you worship have destroyed your life before it even started before we even consider the fact that you IQ is in single digits.

okunoba: @sagamite, flogging obviously has not made you a polite or civil person instead its turned u into a verbally abusive and probably violent persona. Sad that as an adult with all that beating u received growing up this is what u learned to say when debating or discussing issues.

"You are a person.
I asked your dumb arsse a question, you can not answer it and you post some dumb link with a moronic conjecture"

Will answer your questions when u learn the act of debating without the need to insult others. Have a good evening.

And non-flogging turned you into a person?

Oluwaadajo: On this thread, many people have called you a fool. I don't blame them. You are a SUPERFOOL!

Anyone who calls a leader of his nation names like you do has to be a fool and would never attain such position in life.

You are a person!

A moronic product of a failed education system.

Only a cretin raised in a failed environment like Nigeria would carry and worship a foool because of his position. Fucktards like you are the majority of Nigerians I was alluding to about worshiping useless people. FOOOOL!

deols: and still you failed to provide your literate view



it is still amazing that you can not reason it out that I am simply telling you that the op has a point from his belief in the metaphysical being.

I didn't call it clear. Nor can you disprove its clarity either.

You must be too carried away by your ability to insult that you fail to reason. Believe me, I'd be glad if your ability to insult makes you happy. just so you know, I'd be more affected if you can say something reasonable. Resulting to your 'stewpid' remarks can do no good at making you less of an illiterate. it further proves the point.

I wanted to give you one or more chances to humiliate yourself before I gave my literate view.

That is how I am. I like toying with people that are intellectually stuck.

Trust me, I ALWAYS have an intellectually superior angle to issues and able to defend my position. My brain is the real miracle by Allah (SWT).

Now lets get to the tangible, literate reasoning provided by someone that is not ignorant.

First off, the news report states a 3 year old can recite the whole Quran. To a non-ignorant mind, one should already question this report because it appears impossible because that child would barely be able to speak at 3 years old. A child under 2 years old would hardly have a speech vocabulary of more than 30 words, so someone that believes a news report that a 3 year old can learn the whole quran in under 1 year (especially with Arabic not being the child's first language) must be a super gullible and an ignorant illiterate.

As one person already said the Qur'an has 114 chapters with 6,348 verses. It is NOT possible that a 3 year old growing up in an environment, where arabic is not the families everyday language, would learn that in one year, someone with a brain in their head and who is literate would realise that is pure sensationalism by some useless journalist. A 3 year old is barely forming sentences then and would not have a developed memory to cater for that. It is something people older would struggle to completely memorise.

Secondly, lets imagine in your ignorant world that it was possible, it is quite moronic for someone to state that its occurence is "a clear sign that Quran is a miracle".

The fact that a child can memorise all the pages of Oliver Twist is not a "clear sign" that the book is a miracle sent through Charles Dickens by Allah (SWT) to anyone that is literate. It might even be forgivable if you can say it is a sign, claiming it is a "clear sign" without any evidence makes one someone with low IQ.

The second point is the more powerful point of his illiteracy. Lack of evidence-based attribution.

Let those that are ignorant and illiterate learn to use their brains like that. Insha Allah!

Why has SELFWORTH picked race after I asked a simple question?

deols: WOw. You had nothing 'tangible' to add to the topic but you had to add anyway, hence your insults on the poster eh? I am letting that pass . Now to your question


I don't need to to go too far, all the other ways to look at it have been presented here.

my view earlier on-

and the poster you quoted-



THe poster, babaji11 believes in God and as a Muslim,knows that everything is possible only because God decrees that it be. Even the most basic things that people do like walking, eating and drinking are by His knowledge. And when something beyond the ordinary occurs, it would have been by His power, decree or wisdom. In essence, he is right, by virtue of his beliefs and is versed(knowledgeable) of faith based interpretations enough to have directed all praises to the almighty who made this possible. In this case only an illiterate would see him as an illiterate for something that took considerable amount of literacy for him to deduce.

So this is what you see as a 'tangible' contribution?

This is the level of your intellect?

This is what makes YOU "enlightented" and not ignorant?

As in REALLY?

To your "enlightened" self, it is literacy he used to deduce that a report that a child memorised something is a "clear evidence" of a miracle from a metaphysical being?

That is how you develop 'tangible' evidence in your moronic world?

What schools failed you to make you so steewpid to beat your chest that your reasoning, like that, is 'tangible', 'englightened' and 'literate'?

okunoba: @Sagamite, I don`t want to be rude, but you are a good example of the fallacy of flogging children. In your comments all you do is insult and call people names instead of putting your points across in a civil way, that says so much about the impact of flogging in your life and the Nigerian society at large where violence and disrespect rules.

http://codenamemama.com/2010/08/26/corporal-punishment-fallacy/

You are a person.

I asked your dumb arsse a question, you can not answer it and you post some dumb link with a moronic conjecture?

andrewza: That last part made me laugh so hard I all most wet my self. Sad part is it true. So glade the ANC gave him the boot. And know I hear he has run out of money.

Easy loot money to an illiterate, easy go money from an illiterate.

The last I read of him is that he is trying small-scale farming now that ANC had the guts to kick him out.

andrewza: I have heard bad stuff about your cops but they still better suited for interacting amoug civlians.

Trust me. They are all the same animals just with different uniforms and weapons.

The state of Nigeria gives guns to moronic social misfits and these are the results we get.

It is like handing the Justice Ministry to Julius Malema and then expect an intellectual, fair and progressive judicial system.

andrewza: Is this not a job for poliec(parmilltatry) has far has I under stand BH dose not warrent a miiltary force other than to lend assest in. Limted form.

They are all the same bunch of animals!

sweetcheecks: Maybe Nigeria even other African countries need to use the US presidential qualification process, that is you need to be a
wealthy man who has a record of success/achievement to run
for presidency. Eg, Dangote and others who already have a lot money and will not have to still. But will only be to leave a legacy.

You give a hungry men a position of power to handle huge budgets that he has only dreamed of, this is what you will see greediness of a high note. Imagine stealing such amounts and leaving millions of people stranded. Only mad men do this and ussually poverty stricken craziness.

There are not enough Nigerians sufficiently rich to that level and have a strong and wide enough pool of candidates.

The richest class of Nigerians, who are rich by Nigerian standards (tens of millions of dollars), would still steal because they want to be dollar billionaires, have enough money for at least seven generations of their descendents and they know it will result in majority of the Nigerian society respecting and worshipping them for their "achievements".

Being a looting crook in Nigeria is culturally regarded as being "sharp and smart" by majority of the population. You even get rewarded with chieftancy titles by the monarchs and pastors having specials prayers for you in church to thank God for his "good graces" to you, irrespective of how you obtained your money. The minute you have money, no matter how you make it, you instantly become a local hero that alot of people are proud of, that is why you see many Nigerians praying for the people that looted from public funds in their (i.e. the crooks) rare times of adversity. The same people who destroyed their life/future and mashed up their self-dignity. There is a level of inspirational affection like the 'Stockholm syndrome' that develops for them.

It is a culture of "Get rich and loot when you can".

So it is not about wealthy leaders, it is about a cancerous culture that needs to be overhauled.

SELFWORTH: Weep also for our supposed ' leaders of tomorrow' . Most of them are ignorant and will be the worst thing that can ever happen to a nation. They no nothing about good governance but think they know it all.

A sample of them can be seen on this thread and on NL blaming GEJ for everything including the colour of their sons poo.

We all know Nigeria is damaged goods already. The person that will fix it is yet to be born in my opinion.

Did your person President whom you defend so much even release a statement to express outrage and promise of reform when someone that took the pensions of old people and put it in a bank to enrich himself was given a fine of N750K and told to go home, no jail? An amount he would have made in one day from interests from his loot.

Is that the competent President you expect to solve your problems?

That is the man that inspires?

You don't see him as part of the problem of Nigeria?

ANSWER!

ileobatojo: I did not answer because I had answered you twice already and was not interested in going round and round in circles. The fact that you did not like my answer was not really my problem. Once again, the irony is that my answer was the exact same thing you said.

Show me where you answered.

All I saw was strawmans and dodging.

ileobatojo: Once again amorosity is not being taught in the toddler/preschool room. I don't know what is my business with wearing red in school when you have not seen me expressly promote this. I'm talking about the candy exchange for little kids. Unless you're trying to tell me my kid is going to be a hyper sexualized teen because he was given red candy at the age of 4.

You still don't get it in your head. I am going to try and put it an easy as possible bits and chunks to make it piss clear.

1) The day is generally accepted as a day of amorosity. A day of coupling. That is what Valentine's day is generally accepted to connotate.

2) Engaging kids and telling them to participate and wear red (the colour of desire) is quite very suspect on amorosity levels.

3) When these kids grow just a little more, they will know what this Valentine is all about and will feel obliged to continue practicing it at 11 years old or so because they were raised on it and practicing it. Are you at a point where you see the danger?

4) Kids do not need to engage in it. There is absolutely no sense (not much upside) in them being trained to engage in it. When we introduce things, we should try and introduce things for progress and enhancement, not just because others do it.

5) They can exchange candy, shokolate and epa & boli on another day, a day with different and more responsible symbolic connotations that does not risk indirectly sexualising them young.

It is not rocket science. It is really that simple!

SELFWORTH: Weep also for our supposed ' leaders of tomorrow' . Most of them are ignorant and will be the worst thing that can ever happen to a nation. They no nothing about good governance but think they know it all.

A sample of them can be seen on this thread and on NL blaming GEJ for everything including the colour of their sons poo.

We all know Nigeria is damaged goods already. The person that will fix it is yet to be born in my opinion.

There are several people with the intellect to start the fixing of Nigeria, unfortunately your GEJ is not one of them. GEJ is only capable of driving Nigeria backwards!

Majority of us in the clerisy can appreciate the huge task of fixing the country, that does not mean we would excuse a cretin that can not.

brosss: Its nothing short of a bolt from the blue when persons make supercilious and disparaging statements concerning a people.
I empathize with you. I might even be angrier than you. But seriously friend, your statement is escessively indiscriminate. That a few sycophants gather to egg-on these depraved politicians is by no means an indication that all Nigerians are bootlickers.

Watch out for the word "majority".

SELFWORTH: Here we go.

Haters!

What has GEJ family got to do with this ?

Your personal hatred of the president seems to have polluted your brain. Think objectively and think outside the box if you can.

With this particular post, you are of course.

What GEJ family has to do with this is that he is the fcking incompetent person that should be ruling the country and she is the fcking illiterate fat shyt that is wasting our money arbitrarily.

He and his wife are both incredibly dumb and their sole interest is self-interest.

The day you can come and tell me GEJ inspires you as a leader is the day you can come to me to defend him.

person!

ileobatojo: Lmao! Someone's really in pain isn't it? See bitter epistle!!

First of all, I did not answer anymore because the previous answer was more than adequate. As a matter of fact you pretty much just used a million words to say the exact same thing I said in my answer. Lol

Second, the point you were trying to 'trap' me into shining with is a failed one. It's blown apart by the fact that 'amorosity' is NOT what is being celebrated in the toddler and preschool room.

Third, my answer to that question, as irrelevant an analogy as it is, is not no.

So yeah, your intellect is still questionable.

Oh! And they also celebrate Mother's Day, Father's Day ..........

You seem to be delusional!

Sagamite being like Sagamite and writing like Sagamite is evidence Sagamite is bitter?

Really?

You did not answer because you saw your folly and decided to dodge the question. Your first attempt was to attempt a strawman against SAGAMITE that has a strawman blocker permanently on.

ileobatojo: If valentines day is the equivalent of Ifa celebration day to you then by all means, blow up the school if you have to.

I bet if they had Greek mythology day, you would be the first one to dress up your kid as Zeus. Difference?

That is the normal attempt of people that see their folly when Sagamite starts asking questions to test their logic. After that, they start dodging and refuse to answer the question while Sagamite repeats the question again and again because he knows they are intellectually stuck. Examples of such litter NL, I present one to you:

https://www.nairaland.com/1176158/sagamites-top-30-greatest-african/22#14121029

Your second point is actually silly considering I had already lectured you about kids growing up and learning what the date they are required to engage in is about. AND the fact the school required them to wear red. It does not take much brain power to figure out the significance of red is in our society. Lets even ignore the lack of necessity to make kids be part of such celebration.

Thirdly, now your answer is now a "No"? Be fooling yourself.

The same person that probably almost convulse because of hearing their child will celebrate with Sango.

[quote author=ozone-3]Lagos state shares boundaries with Ogun state and a lot of people actually live in Ogun and travel into Lagos each day. On census day there is normally a restriction of movement in and some people travel out to their villages. I guess this is one of the factors that leads to a smaller than typical headcount for Lagos.[/quote]I disagree.

I thought about that, but figured it was not possible.

Nigeria does not have the travel infrastructure to enable people live in Ogun State and travel to work in Lagos every day. There is hardly anyway to travel to the commercial hubs of Lagos in less than 1 hour daily. No existing way is even reliable enough to do it 5 dyas a week before 9am. Those living in Lagos itself, find it a struggle to get to work in less than 1 hour. They leave home before 6am to even have a chance.

Secondly, the population of Ogun State is merely 4m. So if you ridiculously add even all that to Lagos and outrageously make Ogun State a zero population state, it still would not reflect a fair proportion of the population Lagos should have.

Before census day, before the restrictions, there is a great migration from Lagos. This affects the people counted.

If I was the governor of Lagos, in the next census, I would send a Lagos census team to accompany all national census officials across Lagos and record those counted. If your name is not on the list and you come/relocate to Lagos anytime for the next 5 years without evidence of working with some reliable organisation, studying or being hospitalised outside Lagos during the census, you would pay a higher tax rate than other people on the list that we have from the census and would (with your family) not be entitled to any free public services of the state as well, you will pay for them.

That would deal with those that leave Lagos to be counted in their villages and reduce the allocation entitlement of the state. What the state loses would be recouped from them.

IYA NGBALI: shut the fok up fooool

You are a moronic person!

uche13: I'm still asking those in support of this modern trend in our schools.

What happens after the "innocence" of primary school and the child enters adolescence and is in secondary school? Do you still encourage the celebration of val at that dangerous and critical age? Or do you then advice the child to wait until the time is right?

If your answer is the latter? What explanation would be given to the child to drop a practice adopted even at the nursery level?

Some of them don't have the brain to think that far.

That is too complex for their brain.

Tgirl4real: Sango wetin?

I can't take my kids where they are extremely religious not to talk of a Sango day.

I remembered a sch I went to make enquiries last week. The sch had a sticker with "I am covered with the blood of Jesus" on one of the receptions doors. That put me off immediately.
Very nice and modern sch o...owned by an American. Unfortunately, she wasn't around at the tym. But, I remembered telling them my opinion on the matter before leaving.

I'm a Christian, but I don't support any form of extremes around me not to talk of my child.

That was to test the logical thinking of someone that had the audacity to try and insult my intellect.

She is obviously not going to answer the question because her answer would be "No" as the scenario proposed would not stand up to the funky philosophy and be overlookable.

She had the audacity to insult my intellect by trying to tell me because schools get kids to celebrate Xmas, new year blah blah blah, then it ""ain't no thing" if they get the kids to celebrate valentines. That is the simplistic analogy she had the audacity to put to me. So I gave her a simplistic analogy to help her see her folly.

When schools celebrate Xmas etc, the values (spirituality, celebration, family etc) they are celebrating are not one that I particularly disagree with for my kids at any age even though I am not a Xtian.

But when a school celebrates Valentines, the values (amorosity) they are celebrating is one I would rather my kids are not instigated to join in until they reach a particular age.

So it is RIDICULOUS to come with such simplistic 'well they celebrate other things so it "ain't no thing" if they made to celebrate valentines'. It is not about the celebration, it is about the values espoused.

And she finally got that (I think), when I gave her an example of one with a value that she did not approve of and was not funky enough for her. So celebrations are not just about celebrations, we should look at the values under-pinning it.

Next time, people should bring intellectual analogies to me. One they can defend.

uche13: I'm still asking those in support of this modern trend in our schools.

What happens after the "innocence" of primary school and the child enters adolescence and is in secondary school? Do you still encourage the celebration of val at that dangerous and critical age? Or do you then advice the child to wait until the time is right?

If your answer is the latter? What explanation would be given to the child to drop a practice adopted even at the nursery level?

Some of them don't have the brain to think that far.

That is too complex for their brain.

Tgirl4real: Sango wetin?

I can't take my kids where they are extremely religious not to talk of a Sango day.

I remembered a sch I went to make enquiries last week. The sch had a sticker with "I am covered with the blood of Jesus" on one of the receptions doors. That put me off immediately.
Very nice and modern sch o...owned by an American. Unfortunately, she wasn't around at the tym. But, I remembered telling them my opinion on the matter before leaving.

I'm a Christian, but I don't support any form of extremes around me not to talk of my child.

That was to test the logical thinking of someone that had the audacity to try and insult my intellect.

She is obviously not going to answer the question because her answer would be "No" as the scenario proposed would not stand up to the funky philosophy and be overlookable.

She had the audacity to insult my intellect by trying to tell me because schools get kids to celebrate Xmas, new year blah blah blah, then it ""ain't no thing" if they get the kids to celebrate valentines. That is the simplistic analogy she had the audacity to put to me. So I gave her a simplistic analogy to help her see her folly.

When schools celebrate Xmas etc, the values (spirituality, celebration, family etc) they are celebrating are not one that I particularly disagree with for my kids at any age even though I am not a Xtian.

But when a school celebrates Valentines, the values (amorosity) they are celebrating is one I would rather my kids are not instigated to join in until they reach a particular age.

So it is RIDICULOUS to come with such simplistic 'well they celebrate other things so it "ain't no thing" if they made to celebrate valentines'. It is not about the celebration, it is about the values espoused.

And she finally got that (I think), when I gave her an example of one with a value that she did not approve of and was not funky enough for her.

Next time, people should bring intellectual analogies to me. One they can defend.

Train ko, strain ni.

Animals only trained to be animals.

These are supposedly "trained" Nigerian soldiers as well:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUcTb1i9184


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1hc1zKnLr0



http://dorothynjemanzefoundation.org/home/if-govt-acted-on-dorothy-njemanzes-assault/

http://vimeo.com/58186114


They have finished churning out another 2904 fucktards to raape and kill citizens indiscriminately.

sweetcheecks: Well it means Naija people like this to happen. Do Nigerians know to protest is a democratic right. If you want something done it wont happen while you sit on your backside and wait for some to do it. You stand up, organise and go to the streets so you can be heard. Writting on Nl and complaining on the sides will never work. You will just move from one thief to another couse no one hold the leaders accountable, with your tax money. Yhoooooo hayi cha!

Nigerians prefer to go to church and buy a miracle.

They believe if they give the pastor church enough money, their lives will change for the better and they would see prosperity.

Only JEEESUS can save them!

But their money saves the pastor from poverty and the challenges they (the congregation) face in real life.

sweetcheecks: My God, where have you ever heard a whole pension fund being deposited in personal account? Where was the board of trustees? Why was the money accessable to this guy? Why was is it not with investment house low risk?
Africa needs to learn running a country needs admin systems, process and checks and balances to be implemented then adhered to.

Now the goverment is suppose to creat policy and processes to make sure this does not happen in all other departments, unless they also are awaiting their turn to eat.

So well said!

This cannot happen in Nigeria because we have fucktards ruling the country. The moorons of the country vote for them and then pray for them to stay and destroy their lives a bit more.

These ruling fucktards are incompetent and unqualified.

Imagine the wife of our President, who cannot speak English more than an average Nigerian mid-high school student, was appointed as the person in charge of education is her state. She was appointed to facilitate destroying the future of as many youths as possible. Hence we generate more incompetent quacks in all works of life.

Quacks she avoids to use and run to Germany when she is ill. Paid for by tax payers but yet refuse to acknowledge it to taxpayers that are left to use the death-trap incompetencies like hers provide in the country she ran away from.

Then you have the person citizens praying fervently for her well-being. One they cannot afford.

Then when she gets better, she decides to waste more of their funds to build a N4bn complex purely as a place for useless women like her to be ostentatious and debate without any tangible results.

But the person citizens keep on praying.

ileobatojo: My answer was in my previous reply. Don't participate in something that offends your sensibilities simple. Val's day candy for 2 yr olds ain't no thing to me apart from the sugar concerns. To you it might be different. That's the beauty of the world we live in. We're not all one minded robots.

If you want a more direct response, please use a more realistic analogy. There's no limit to the wild scenarios that could be made up for the purpose of fearmongering.

No, you did not answer.

Would that also be a "ain't no thing to you"?

It is a very simple question. You seem to be happy to answer another question not asked but not the one asked.

Realistic?

Do you think if anyone had told me yesterday that teachers IN NIGERIA would tell young kids to celebrate valentine and wear red to school, I would have have thought that was realistic?

Please answer the question and stop strawmanning, dodging or looking for excuses not to answer.