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sexkillz, you need my contribution in putting them into groups so as to avoid group of deaths.

I have experience from my work with CAF organising the ANC.

carefreewannabe: No comment

Could be.

That is an allegation that you can't prove and I plead innocent. It's normal that HUMAN BEINGS like to stimulate their senses, among others the sense of vision. That is why I don't judge anyone, man or woman, wanting to have a beautiful / handsome partner or whatver partner they desire.



Another allegation.


More allegations.

Those are very strong observations (not allegations) which manifest themselves on many forums and some women even admit it on those forums when they say "it is a good thing men should feel insecure about their looks like they make us feel". At the end of the day, unlike men, these same women screaming 6 packs don't use it as priority in selecting men.

I don't have any academic report to back up the observation but I do have real life observation.

- There is a reason many men (even when in a relationship) go to strip clubs and women don't.
- There is a reason men are the largest consumers of p orn.

Lets not argue against logic.

carefreewannabe: I have seen that guys rank beauty higher more often, that does not mean that an ugly guy has many chances with girls and that women don't prefer attractive guys. If anyone here ever opens a thread why women cheat, I'll say: BECAUSE THEY MARRIED AN UGLY GUY FOR MONEY That'S a different topic.

https://www.nairaland.com/409194/lads-arrange-order-preferred-attributes

I never said women do not prefer attractive guys and I never said ugly guys have a chance. I said women have a threshold, which is lower than men's, as long as you meet that threshold, you have a chance based on your personality, where the hard work begins.

Men, get over the threshold, and the job is done on your part. The only effort you have to make is how wide you want to split your legs or what position can you hold for long.

As to why women cheat? I would say: they don't feel an emotional connection anymore or are not getting the necessary attention.

I think I would be mostly right than you on that.

carefreewannabe: Why are men hanging out with people most of their time unless they're not an introvert type? Either their GIRLFRIENDS (yes, plural) and their homies?

No 1, they are more comfortable being on their own.

No 2, they hang out to pull women.

No 3, if they are married, they need to get the fck away from her and her yap yap yap.

carefreewannabe: Yet, you spend time with other people. Not less than women, right?

Nah, we do not.

We spend time with friends does not mean we spend more time with people.

A woman can be with her guy 24 hours, a guy cannot, we need our space and solitude. You have to count the 24hours as part of the women's time. Talkless of the countless hours they are talking to girlfriends or their mothers.

carefreewannabe: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
Who?

A lot of women have friends they don't like that much. And they biatch on each other behind each others back, then artificially make up and still hang out. Then repeat the circle months later.

And you wonder why the fck do you hang out if you don't like her strongly. Guys are not like that.

carefreewannabe: You said more than that. You are claiming that MOST women will DO WITHOUT good looks if HE only is RICH, POWERFUL AND FAMOUS.

I wish it was that simple.

Show me where I said that.

carefreewannabe: That isn't true. some guys are so ugly, no money in this world can make me waste my life with such a guy and no money in this world make want to have his genes in my precious children.

I saw plenty of men marrying for status. EU citizenship status.

I bet the same goes for a guy. If he can have an average looking Hollywood actress or an average looking pop star, he'll take her instead of a beautiful girl from the street.

Men also have a price. The poorer, the cheaper. No offence intended. Don't blame me. Human nature.

Rubbish!

Mary J Blige with all her money and who some even think is hot but I don't (she is average in my books) vs a girl on the street that is working in Tesco that looks like Meagan Good?

I would be Good all day, everyday.

You yourself know you are taking the piss when you used the EU rubbish. To start with, those are not even normally average looking men. And they tend to kick her to the kerb when they get their papers. Not to talk of the critical incentive you introduced.

Would a guy that does not need papers go for an uglier woman because of her power/fame?
How many wealthy and desirable guys have you seen date average women like Heidi or Scarlett?

switdick: @carefree, I believe sagamite already talked on all these you pose as your drift,its been cleared already as I don't want this argument to stretch any further,nobody is saying power and influence are the only factors listed,but to a huge degree girls tend to go for guys with the most of the aforementioned in comparison to looks(which in my opinion,girls consider superficial),look outside the shores of your fantasies and bend over backwards to reality you'd see I have a point here, however,if am to add anything about security you say she might not need? Plsssss all girls need that from a man they are attracted to,its not just financial but it stretches to emotional for self esteem and confidence sake"......whether she's the richest girl ever,she's still a girl before a man......that,she knows,thus,the desire for it from the man she deems well capable of dishing it properly to her(her taste in men,(power) )

As for btwn two equally rich guys,its still not a guaranty she'd go for the more handsome one,might look@the persona of them both.......yeah"" attitude and swagger" character et all......my point is,looks on the scale tends to be like the least of em all girls value or are attracts them in a man.

Well said!

That is why Heidi Klum that could easily have her pick of men and who was extremely wealthy was attracted to and got pregnant for a 53 year old man with a pot-belly.

That is why Scarlett Johansson of the same wealth and freedom to choose men like Klum would fck 5ft7, 51 years old Sean Penn.

I don't know of many rich men with easy choices of women dating not so great looking women because of their money/power/fame.

carefreewannabe: I don't see why I should lie on a public forum where nobody knows me. Your conclusions are too simple. Just because I don't answer right away, doesn't mean I had to think of my answer. I received a call, even two
I didn't want to talk about personal matters first because I rarely do. I share my views here, not my personal life. Unlike you Saga, I see no sense in showing off

I have only had three relationships worth mentioning and yes all of these guys were good looking FOR ME at the given time.

My showing off is a pleasure for most women.

carefreewannabe: The survey you have mentioned has many faults and doesn't really prove anything. Apart from that, very few people will confess that looks are extremely important to them.

I think that is completely wrong.

It is more likely women would talk about looks because they are notorious for trying to use it to get back at men for putting so much emphasis and pressure on them for their looks.

That is evident from this thread. The core of my argument with the other girl.

carefreewannabe: I remember many threads in which PLENTY OF GUYS claimed that character and personality are more important than looks and I even remember threads where PLENTY OF guys claimed that it's better not to be together with a HOT woman. I also remember PLENTY OF GUYS here on nairaland that they would rather go for this or that than looks. What does it prove Saga? That guys have a threshold but react in the same way women do, right? Why?? MEN LIKE WOMEN ARE COMPANIONSHIP ANIMALS TOO. You are not good at biology. It's not the first time I notice that

Of course plenty of guys will say personality matters because:

- There are many guys that are nice guys.
- There are many guys that will think saying that will make them look attractive to the women on NL.
- Some are religious and vomit the values their church puts on them.

They want to please.

But where your point falls short is that plenty does not mean most. Most guys would put attractiveness as high on their priority and, luckily, I did a similar survey for guys and most used attractiveness as one of their top desirious attributes.

https://www.nairaland.com/409194/lads-arrange-order-preferred-attributes

carefreewannabe: Why this discussion anyway if this is the point you're making? Yes, women have a threshold. He doesn't have to be perfect but it'S very important that he is good looking. It's very important! Same goes for men. They would rather marry an average looking girl with a good character than a beautiful b.... .
But like man if a woman has the choice between a handsome guy with a good personality and status, she'll choose him over an average looking guy with a good personality and status. Very simple.

Men do have a threshold but that threshold is higher and dominant in their choice. Men are not half as companionship animals as women. The reason why men want 3 things from women:

- Feed me.
- Fck me.
- Shut the fck up.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkKtV81u_VM

We are different. We don't like to talk, we don't want to spend too much time together, our lives is not based on "we", we are not as companionshipity as women.

We are not that much companionship animals that is why you rarely see men have friends they don't like. If we don't like a friend, we cut them off. Women somehow still hang around with other women they loath and who equally loaths them back. Why? It boils down to their strong need for companionship.

carefreewannabe: BTW, I didn't jump in to take a sisterhood side. I followed the converstion, considered it very interesting and thought that Denise reflects my views.
If it was you I agreed with, I would say it. If you remember, I did so in the past.

Somehow it appeared you never read mine as you were proficient in attributing statements I did not make to me.

carefreewannabe: I think we all agree that appearance is very important to men and women, women LIKE men have two eyes. They're not blind.

Let me speak for myself and I know my girlfriends will allow me to speak for them too, appearance is very important. We'd all prefer to have a hot man.
Unfortunately, there are more good looking women than men. That's why many women go for less at times when it comes to looks.

Was nice talking to you.

I never said appearance is not important to women.

I said it is of lower priority to women.

Most women would choose fame and power over looks anyday.

Men would not.

Most women would choose and, more importantly, be attracted to a famous guy with average looks over a guy on the street with great physique/look.

Most men would choose and, more importantly, be attracted to a girl from the street that is hot-looking over an average-looking girl that is famous.

Virgin Finder: You are a slavic bastard!

Your parents and grandparents back in Sagamu will be first to oblige them.

I see your slavic burden was a little less today, hence, spare time for NL.

Is this how you are going to continue this slavic lifestyle till you die?

Come back home and get a life, Sagamite, Fucktardic Cretinous!

Your mates over here have left you behind.

Keep whining. odoyo!

Virgin person, Ah, police would obtain you this week.

You are not going to see PHCN light for another 4 weeks.

Suffer suffer for world, enjoyment for heaven for Okada riders.

carefreewannabe: FOR ME they ARE equally good looking. When my heart was theirs, they seemed to be better looking

Look, it is obvious you are lying!

This question should not have taken this long if not that you were busy thinking how to second guess me and then tailor your answer to not be caught out.

Your first answers are normally evasively ambigious because of this second guessing.

You even lied when you said all the men you have dated were the ideal type of physique you would describe only to state that you dated one that was not in this mold when you were a teenager.

Secondly, I don't believe the figure you gave of the number of guys you have dated because I don't see why you were resisting answering that question despite the figure you gave being quite low for someone that is 25+ years old.

So basically, I have not believed majority of the things you have said so far.

You jumped on the thread and just wanted to take a sisterhood side, it was obvious everything I said flew over your head because of this aim. That was why you kept making conjectures about my position despite it being clear what I said.

What I said, applies to you despite your lies: The guys you have dated have all been above the threshold in terms of looks that you go for and their personality got you. That is why "When my heart was theirs, they seemed to be better looking".

You portray (truthfully or not, is yet to be determined based on your actions here) that you are one of the few women who good looks highly matter to. Very few women are like that does not mean I am saying women don't like good looking men.

I repeat, my point: Most women have a threshold in terms of looks (the higher above this threshold the better) but it is personality out of the bundle that carries most weight because women are companionship animals.

Even a sample survey on NL says it all:

https://www.nairaland.com/405445/ladies-arrange-order-preferred-attributes

carefreewannabe: Yes, two of my exes resembled the celebrities in one way or another. And when we were together, I considered them to be the best looking men in the world.
I dated the first one because he was my type when I was a teenager. My taste changed as I grew up.

That is quite ambigious. Were they equally as good looking or they were better looking than the celebrities?

You considered them the best looking men in the world because you loved them or because you think they would compete highly favourablt in that competition in the eyes of most women?

carefreewannabe: Normally, I'm not into 6packs. Honestly! But I like big, strong guys with a shoulder to lean on AND a nice face to look at.
Yes, two of my ex boyfriends resembled two of these celebrities. I had three relationships. The first was a teenage crush and this guy looked different from the other two boyfriends but I was a teenager back then. So two serious relationships with two guys who resembled the type I like.

Saga, when will you EVENTUALLY tell me what you were trying to prove?

Before I get to what I am proving, are you saying 2 of your exes (in your eyes), look like or even are better looking than these celebrities?

The third ex was not particularly your taste? You only dated him because then you were young, naive and had a crush?

carefreewannabe: I can give you many examples of attractive celebrities. And I find many of them attractive EVEN THOUGH they don't match the type of guy I USUALLY go for. They're STILL VERY ATTRACTIVE. This is why I actually don't feel comfortable with the idea of ONE IDEAL. To make matters simple, however, let me give you some examples:

Dwayne Douglas Johnson is a handsome man.
50 Cent is hot.
Bradley Cooper (Hangover) is sexy.


I NEVER SAID I HAD THE CLASSIC TASTE OF ALL WOMEN / MOST WOMEN !!!!!!!!
I only said that most women like handsome guys and having the choice they would want to have a handsome partner. I also said that preferences differ from woman to woman.

The number of the relationships I had is a private matter. And I don't think it's important here. If your question is however, if all of my ex boyfriends looked the same, then I can tell you that they didn't. The guys I liked when I was 18 were not the guys I liked when I turned 25. I changed over the years and so the guys that I fall for. Anyway, I found all of them handsome, else I wouldn't have fallen for them.

So you are at least 25 year old?

And you are telling me that all the guys you have dated have been in the mold of The Rock, 50 Cent or Bradley Cooper? But you are not into 6 packs yet the celebrities you find attractive have them?

carefreewannabe: Tall, dark, not skinny, strong, beautiful eyes, nice hands, nice and clean clothes.

Clarify this with a few pics of celebrities/models/lads online that you see as representative of your ideal looks.

It should be easy, you have the classic, hackneyed taste of most women

carefreewannabe: I am not going to answer the second question.

Nah, answer.

I am not interested in knowing number of sexual partners. Obviously sometimes that number is different from the number of dated men for most women.

What I asked is, how many men have you dated seriously (as in been in a relationship with)?

Not sexual partners, not ones you have been on a casual date with. Only serious boyfriends.

carefreewannabe: Let me answer your questions AGAIN because you refuse to read between the lines.
First answer: Yes.
Second answer: Yes.

Now tell me what you're trying to prove.

Okay, good. Thank you.

Now can you describe to me your ideal man.

Then, secondly, tell me how many guys you have dated.

carefreewannabe: The men I dated were very handsome and yes they very much met my ideals.
My ex-boyfriends were extremely attractive in terms of looks. I still think so.
What are you trying to prove then? Looks are very important FULL STOP Ask any woman and she'll tell you that she prefers a handsome men to an average looking one or an ugly one. Not only because a handsome guy is sexier but also because they have good genes to pass on to their children.

Yes, I can because I am a woman and I also know what many other women dream of. All women like handsome men and all women would prefer a handsome men over an ugly one. What each individual finds attractive, however, differs.

I didn't ask you if your ex-boyfriends were attractive. I asked very simple questions, please answer them with careful thoughts:

So basically, if you defined your ideal man in terms of looks, would you say you have dated a man like that in the past?

And do all your exes look like that ideal physique you would describe if you were to define your ideal man in terms of looks?

Don't focus on what I am trying to proof, just answer the question honestly.

There has never been a point I said women prefer ugly men over handsome men or they don't like handsome men.

Can you prove otherwise?

TimePiece: .

If I was to put money on it, I will go for: Mental Health problems.

I bet I am right.

Only such health issues will make this foool copy the whole pix from the first page.

k2039: I had to look at the username, frankly I was not dissapointed.

Your wit just amazes me, officially I want to be your Protege

Lol.

Click the "Follow" link, and then watch and learn.

Dopefiend: U dint have call a fool brah

WTF!!!

Look, I don't and can't read this ebonic junk!

I am not a hoodrat!

Type/talk to me in proper ENGLISH, like an educated person!

carefreewannabe: I don't consider 6packs attractive to start with but the guys I dated attracted me with their looks first. This is why I agreed to date them. The personality came second. It played a role in deciding if I want to have a relationship with the guy or not. But looks came first. If I hadn't liked the way they looked, I wouldn't have started dating them at all and therefore wouldn't have got to know their personality.

So basically, if you defined your ideal man in terms of looks, would you say you have dated a man like that in the past?

And do all your exes look like that ideal physique you would describe if you were to define your ideal man in terms of looks?

carefreewannabe: Saga, are you a woman?
Many women on this thread have mentioned appearance among other factors being decisive for choice making. Why are you so desperately trying to prove that looks are not that important? They are very important. Unfortunately, also MANY women are very superficial beings.

God forbid I am a woman.

No 2, I never at any point said looks were not important nor did I say women don't go for looks.

Can you prove otherwise?

carefreewannabe: I agree with you 100%
Physical attraction is extremely important to women. Who knows better than a woman?

However, people have different preferences when it comes to beauty.

Cut the crap, carefree.

So tell me, all the guys you have dated and loved (excluding me), have they all had 6 packs or they had a personality that turned you on?

[quote author=Donalð Genes]Group 1- yes yes yes for "sweetlemon" all the way! That girl is almost making me wet with her first pix suffice me to say.
Beckyomas-sorry I have to say NO but still you sweet
Daisyella- am sorry I hv to say No but ua just cute in a unique way
candyness-Still No but your so nubile n wow with dose eyes,love "em

Group2-vivian chinanza; sorry I got to say NO"still looking sexcy with dose Hot legs but I almost went for you but something held me back
Abil-nope-sorry for that,you way to beautiful but need to see more of Abil

T-luv-you got me wowed! Am afraid I have to say a Big Yes yes yes for You-am ua big fan,u look so natural

Abelcity-Nope

Mimifonwon-sorry to say No since your pix wasn't lucid enough

Group3-livialives-girl you fucking sexy with all the right curves in place,couldn't wait to scream "Yes"yes" yes"
Junnymercy- you almost got me going for you but you left your boobs hanging there and that reduce ua marks-NO

Amaryah-sorry boo",NO"am not thrilled with what I saw there

Dollz-am afraid to say NO but just have to go for one


Please where is Group 4?[/quote]The instruction you got was to pick your top ones out of the list of girls not to come and put some down, FOOOOOL!

If we say he should put his pix up now, we would not be surprise why other races call blacks monkeys.

Richfella: Lol. RSD or Mystery?

What are those?

legalwealth: Hello sagamite...

Which area are you in Sagamu?

Sabo,GRA,Ayegbami,Ijoku,Hospital road,Ayepe Road,Isote,Ojumele,Makun OR ?

Let me know ASAP or just inbox me...

Why you won know?

You won come use my babalawo?

Richfella: Hey bro, you seem to know about the pick-up community.

I am a community leader and resident rules expert scholar in the pick-up community.

Denise216: Like I said, it just a about the last word now, feel free to have it. I don't need it.

Neither do I need it nor does it have to come to who has the last word.

It has come to this because you realise you can not defend the theory you put forth when it is tested with reality. So you decided to run and start silly strawmans.

You saw tough questions and lacked the logic to answer them.

Richfella: I agree with several things Sagamite said. They are FACT - scientific, hit-the-streets-right-now-and-confirm facts.

A woman's attraction circuits are governed ENTIRELY by her limbic system - which know neither logic or reason.

Women are biologically programmed to respond powerfully to men who:

- have strong, dominant personalities or
- have lots of people reacting to them (like bosses in an orgasnization, popular/famous persons, etc).

Biologically speaking, our only purpose on this planet is to survive and replicate and being a pretty boy has ZERO to do with that.

A fresh, succulent babe means YOUNG & FERTILE, but since most men are fertile, women select more for SURVIVAL VALUE. Yeah and men, more for REPLICATION VALUE.

Well said!

A good fraction of these men tend to have decent physique because image matters to being dominant and people reacting to you in a servile way. That does not mean they have the best physique. They just are above the threshold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGm5ef2mU0Q

Virgin Finder: Quite lame!
And...incoherent!!
You are a slavic bastard!!!

I see you are just returning from your slavic duty post.You must be very tired.Pele oku iya.

Come back home and get a life Mr Fucktardic Cretinous Sagamite. Your Sagamu kinsmen have given up on you and are only praying for your sane return albeit empty handed.

Your mates over here are doing far better than the modern day slavery you are passing through.

Is this how you'll live till you die?

What a waste of existence!

Keep whining. oluya!

PS: You are so obsessed with okada. Its either you rode one to save money to travel into slavery abroad or your father currently rides one in Sagamu for survival.shior!

Virgin person, Xmas is coming. Start shaking because awon boys want Xmas present, person!

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/robbers-day-of-terror-in-auchi/132590/

You live in paradise!

joe4christ: I'm glad i actually boosted someone's ego, it's actually a plus on my own side. Cos any reasonable being would see from my iinitial post that i never asked for any of your personal details, i just thought we could get acquainted as friends and not what you painted it to be, i pray nigeria gets more civilised somedays cos it seems some people's brain needed an upgrade.
Thanks for your time!

person, your brain needs the update!

Or better still smashing as it is not worth the effort to correct it.

joe4christ: Sorry i aint giving you no attention. It's actually not for you..
So goodnight, and please dont dream of me neither hate.
Bless you!

Mental-health person talking about some dreaming of him.

When you hear girls are having acid poured on their face in Nigeria, it is sick fucktards like this that are doing it.

Many stories like that with links below this main story:

http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headline/220977-nigerian-actress-silifa-ladeji-beaten-to-death-by-lover.html

Tgirl4real: Sagamite, I'm looking for ya trouble dis evening.

Unfortunately, I'm sleepy.

Go sleep.

[quote author=baby_123]Anyway lets not get into any long story. But yes you are different and hot. Not contact details but off line chat. Thats what he wanted now.



If i exchange numbers it will be right before your eyes. Where best to hide things if not in plain sight. You guys wouldnt even know.lmao.[/quote]I will take that. My ego needed some food tonight.

joe4christ: Ooops, that must really have been Gross!
But why is he now attacking me, i'm i the reason why you could'nt accept his proposal?
Why is he now threatening me with his venumous barkings?
Pls, i agree not to disturb you again, if only you would put him under control, he's really running wild you know!

Shut up and learn to take NO as a NO without wanting to murder the woman.

Tgirl4real: Chei!!! See as dem use u score cheap point.

Haa!!!

Abi o!

[quote author=baby_123]

Its true now. People like him are the reason why i refuse to do it. Nigerian men can be quite st*upid you know. Before you know it, they will carry my picture and my chats and start rambling like drunk ediots all over the internet. Very childish and stu*pid. Lacking the ability to think anything through. You are different though. [/quote]Yeah, I am different and hot but lets set the record straight: I have not asked for any of your contact details but you want me to ask.

That is the truth!

[quote author=baby_123]You have lost your mind. Clearly. You are not even a man. Less than a man. A real man is talking, you should listen. It is good for you and your mental state. I refused to chat online with him too and he took it like a man. but you are here, whimpering like a weather beaten dog. Get a life men, so irritating.[/quote]Where? When?

You think you can throw lies in to boost your ego.

YOU want me!