₦airaland Forum

maestroferddi:
I wouldn't mind helping out to chain/manacling a mad dog like you in case you are proving intractable to the head shrinker...

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

Have I helped you in becoming aware of how daft you are now?

I am your head shrinker.

sonOfLucifer:
In the beginning was God.

And he got bored because the world was void. God knew not how he came. He had always existed. He is, was and is.

He couldn't die, so he couldn't be said to be alive. He was. He just was.

At some point, a thought came into his head. Now one can't say where this thought came from. Or if this thought gave him a sense of purpose. But it was a good thought.

So he spoke. And there was light. And with that light, he saw lots of darkness. And space, lots of space. The kind of space that will put a smile on an Ikwerre man's face.

So off to work he set. A planet here and a planet there. The world was his creative playground. All he had to do was speak and it became. The original talk and do.

And at the end of the work, he made himself some Amala and Ewedu to eat with his 7 fingers.

After eating, he drove his Bentley to planet Pluto to dance Azonto in space.

He then spent 4 weeks in meditation to prepare for designing how he would construct a perfect arsse like Kim Kardasians.

Then he took some female angels and gave them a Godly banging.





Any more rubbish you people want to hear about what we "know" about God?

MRBrownJ:
bro, come on!!!!
1st these flames must be seen from far back so people will slow down
2nd so a car crashes in front of you, possible unconscious people trapped inside the car, and you will just go about your business?!
3rd who cares if the traffic is 10miles long (because you stopped to help) if you can possibly save a life?! oh yeah, i forgot, having a fluid traffic is much more important in Nigerian than possibly saving a life, right?

MOST IMPORTANTLY what would you want people to do if YOU had crashed and was possibly trapped/unconscious inside the car?! drive by while taking photos and making sure there is no hold ups?!

With that level of fire, what am I stopping for?

If they are not out of that, they are already dead.

What equipment would I use to help while on 3rd Mainland Bridge?

In that kind of situation, you aint saving no life, you will just be risking adding yours to it. The best you can do is to call Fire Service, if there is a number for them.

tearoses:
Most things in Nigeria are stupidly expensive apart from labour
Even food! 4 plaintains is N250 and a Kg of chicken is N700

As you said sagamite, there are heaps of empty mansions in Abuja.
Many have been on the market for years

It will burst, its just a matter of time, especially land and properties at the higher end of the market.

And now that Oga on top is making things difficult, and with BVN, there is not that much cash floating around and as blatantly spent as before.

@phoenix480 I also heard the statement that property doubles every 8 years, however its not true. . . . Unless you are buying ex council discounted property sha.
Buy to let is not that easy too. There is some money to be made, but massive gains are only most likely to be made by Shylock landlords with large portfolios and who do this as a main job.
We have just gotten rid of a bad tenant and It was only God that gave us a sympathetic judge or it could have gone terribly wrong.

I was listenng to the radio in Abuja last month and a lady was advertising some property company in the USA. She was making it look so easy and with so much profit to be made. She said houses started from 3 million naira or something and they will remit the hundreds of thousands of naira for rent back to the landlords in Naija. I just smiled. No mention of bills, taxes, maintenance or rent arrears. False promises!!

Most of the properties are owned by crooked public officials through bogus companies or fronts. Once the heat is on them or BVN has trapped their money, they might decide to sell or rent because they need the money or because they want to hide the money.

This is already happening:

http://royaltimes.net/icpc-probe-super-rich-civil-servants-rush-to-sell-houses/

We are just not yet seeing the impact on prices because some owners of the houses are still in denial they will have to reduce the prices (and probably make a loss).

Fashola would surely look at land prices and cost of building to deliver on his housing responsibilities. If this leads to reduction in cost of building, new houses that are cheaper to build would come into the market at lower prices, plus volume of new builds would be high, hence forcing the over-priced older ones to reduce price.

If roads are good and trains can be built, it would exacerbate the price crash.

Afterall, without the good roads, trains and tube, many living in Esher, Weybridge, Rickmansworth etc would all be fighting to live in Knightsbridge, Mayfair, Kensington and Westminster. And those places would even be more expensive.

Even those living in Milton Keynes, Chatham, Croydon etc would be fighting to live in Hackney and Peckham.

Good infrastructure would spread things out and reduce prices.

If this government half performs, things will change. Many holding the properties will lose like a murrafucker.

MRBrownJ:
and people are driving by, without any attempt whatsoever to help in any way.... kai!

Help who?

And help with what? Your bare hands?

Stop where people are driving 60km/h and where there is no hard-shoulder?

Stopping to further exacerbate the traffic hold up?

theshaderoom:
Yemi just posted a video of herself doing a photoshoot with a live lion. Hmmm, scary! She get mind o! See pictures


https://www.instagram.com/p/_6bof2gvzf/?taken-by=yemialade

You are a daft creitnous fuuktard!

Where are the live lions, cretin?

daretodiffer:
You don't need to have the intent to harm before you go to jail. They would go to jail for Battery and Assault because they administered a drug without her consent, pricked her skin without her consent and took her bodily fluid without her consent.

Nah, the persuasion did not work and she didn't held a gun to his head or threatened to injure him. In the UK for example, she will likely not go to jail if it did noy lead to an infection however she might if she had the intention to transmit the virus. Regardless, she did not threaten him, they did not have sex and she did not infect him.

*Personally, I think she was trying to infect him

And here is the UK law for you:

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/intentional_or_reckless_sexual_transmission_of_infection_guidance/#Reckless1861

"Recklessness in this context means that a defendant foresaw that the complainant might contract the infection via unprotected sexual activity but still went on to take that risk. Once the prosecutor is satisfied that the suspect had foreseen the risk of infection, the reasonableness of taking such a risk must be considered. Reasonableness is dependant upon the circumstances known to that person at the time he or she decided to take the risk."

So as long as they have had one umprotected sex, she was aware of her status, did not inform him and was encouraging him/advocating to have more unprotected sex, she would be going to jail.

daretodiffer:
You don't need to have the intent to harm before you go to jail. They would go to jail for Battery and Assault because they administered a drug without her consent, pricked her skin without her consent and took her bodily fluid without her consent.

Nah, the persuasion did not work and she didn't held a gun to his head or threatened to injure him. In the UK for example, she will likely not go to jail if it did noy lead to an infection however she might if she had the intention to transmit the virus. Regardless, she did not threaten him, they did not have sex and she did not infect him.

*Personally, I think she was trying to infect him

Nope!

Intent does matter.

If I break into someones house because I believe domestic violence was taking place inside, even if this was not happening inside and it was two couples play-fighting, as long as I did not take anything, it is very unlikely I would end up in jail. Talk less of if when I entered a woman was being battered by her husband, I doubt I would even be charged.

They had no intent to harm or take opportunity of her, and they did not, and they found out she had an evil intention, fcking nothing would happen.

I am not sure about UK, but I do think if she knew her status and wanted to infect someone, she would be going to jail. That is just my common sense in action. Her intent should be enough to jail her for GBH.

I doubt it would be any different from someone planning a kidnap, carrying a knife or intent to raape. Saying they have not yet kidnapped, stabbed or raaped would be grounds for no punishment is not tenable.

maestroferddi:
Stop pestering me; see a head shrinker instead...

You are a daft cretinous fuuktard!

Your daft self is the one saying someone needs a head shrinker?

maestroferddi:
Get out and keep moving!

You are a daft cretinous fuuktard!

So you pulled such fucktardious claims from the cracks of you dumbarse?

Tamee:
I'm done with that.
Just Cc'd you to say Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays, Trouble.

daretodiffer:
They could go to jail if she decided to pursue it.

He had a choice but he chose not to take it. There is no excuse whatsoever.

The witch tried but failed, if she succeeded it would have been another issue. However she didn't succeed and the BF ended up implicating himself. He is just as crazy as the idio.t.

First of all, they would not go to jail because they did not do anything with an intent to harm her. At worst, they will get suspended month-long sentences, if not just community services.

She would go to a far longer jail if she was aware of her HIV status and was trying to persuade someone ignorant of the status to have unprotected intercourse with her.

maestroferddi:
"And you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free"

Am sorry.

Is that your fcking evidence of marginalisation?

Tamee:
Thanks.

Now that we know how majority of men think on Nairaland, any woman on this forum who does not take extra measures to watch out for herself and support the Female folks more may never fully live to achieve her full potentials out there in Nigeria.

What happened to the Ops friend taking decisions like a man and ending the relationship instead of exposing his woman to such vile violations of her rights and harmful drugs! Hmmn.

Cc Daretodiffer
Cc Cococandy
Cc Sagamite

So a girl is trying to kill someone and your thought process at present is "her rights"?

maestroferddi:
Oga, I expected you to have known better.

I am an incurable believer in the indivisibility of the corporate entity called Nigeria.

Having made the foregoing statement, I also find it repugnant that the unity of Nigeria would only subsist over the institutionalised marginalisation of the Igbos.

Biafra is a consequence of unconscionable injustice and neglect. So get to the root causes of the Biafra insurrection before apportioning blames to people exercising their inalienable rights.

You don't smack a child and also take away its right to cry...

Please edjucate me on what "institutional marginalisation" you are referring to.

I wait.

This man's stupidity is a danger to good governance in his state and an embarrassment that people elected such a fooool.

daretodiffer:
Nope, However you cannot deny that he could have been more considerate. . Hers was not that bad.

As Obasanjo said about what led to Biafra war (Igbo officers going to kill Northern leaders):

"In Physics, they teach you that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. But that is not always the case, some reactions are opposite but not equal o".

Lesson is: Don't start problems with, or attack, someone that can give you a return. If you do and get a worse return, then you can't complain.

Treat people considerately and hopefully they would also do the same.

daretodiffer:
I agree with you. That was my first thought. She was definitely trying to trick him into a relationship. But then, he could have resolved it without using that tone.

If she can't be considerate when dealing with him, why should he be considerate when dealing with her?

Her well-being should more important to him than his is to her?

daretodiffer:
Are you suggesting that it is unusual for to develop feelings from FWB?

Regardless, he could have made his point clear without being harsh. I don't see the reason for that tone.

It may not be unusual, but what she should have tried to do is to initiate lifting the acquittance to a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship status, not her crude way of trying to put him in a relationship he does not want by blackmail (i.e. "you are sleeping with me, so now we are in a relationship").

Many Nigerian girls have no manners and think they are too smart.

Most likely, she fcking obviously knew they were not dating but wanted to blackmail-trap him into it and the guy gave her what she deserved.

What she should have done was basically ask or say things like:

"I like you and want us to start dating exclusively"

"Do you want us to have a relationship?"

"I have feelings for you, do you feel the same way?"


Fcking simple manners, persin no go see with most Naija girls. She thought na she sharp pass.

I don't blame her alone. I also blame fuuktards like francizy.

Banter1:
child of a cursed se-m-e-n. You're a reflection of your useless family.

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

Maybe you meant to say you are a product of a dysfunctional s-e-men. No wonder you came out dumb and hence make dumb statements.

Cretin!

Halen:
I guess that's wah happens when you let ur heart think for you. 1st rule of dating...thou shall use thy head. Btw why call girls dumb? I think Most nairaland guys don't respect ladies

I did not call them dumb. I asked you if they are dumb because you kind of insinuated they aren't capable of using their brain to think, they are gullible and we should not judge them based on their thinking when they fail.

I see them as adults capable of thinking and I judge them based on that perception. Anyone of them that can't think has no valid excuse, they are just stuuupid.

Halen:
She's not. She fell for his lies. Guys can pretend damn!

So girls are "truthful" but just dumb?

DonUjay:
.Lmao! please trace this argument to where it all started and in all Honesty tell me who is CRETINOUS. I'ld be utterly shocked if you actually knew the meaning of that word.People like you should be flogged by their Father when they wake up every morning all year round, you know why? cause your existence adds to the already growing population of innately idiotic people in this Beautiful world of ours.


I just wasted valuable time typing all this when I should have put my fingers to more productive use like scratching my Black Yoonsh

You are a daft cretinous fuuktard!

Your moronic arsse thinks the girl was a victim and the guy should be acting in her best interest?

You are foolish to the bone.

You are the cretin talking about the existence of your God?

Ko ni da fun bukata e! (E no go better for your endeavours!)

When I am sleeping and my brain is recharging, I would still talk more sense than you talk at your peak.

4Play:
I don't thnk the mention function works very well: I will make some rebuttal points on this matter but I don't think the premise of my original post is disputable now that the budget has been officially presented.

Firstly, I do not share your optimism about the new government as it is an optimism that has a tenuous link with reality. What is conspicuous by its absence in your posts, in a debate about public finance by the way, is recourse to data. I said in a post about a month ago that the easiest prediction to make in the social sciences is "more of the same." Buhari's government would prove to be inept just as every previous Nigerian government since independence. I would explicate more on this later but let me deal with some of the points you raised:

Unfortunately, I disagree.

I don't think you can take refuge in recourse to historical data to debate about governance between 2 different governments (one in the future) with different policies and intent.

I also fundamentally disagree with your social sciences axiom. Governments are different. Even in the UK, conservatives would be different from labour. In the US, republicans are different from democrats.

The most useless democratic government we have had is a competition between Jonaadaft and Shagari, Buhari would struggle to beat that even if he banged his head and something changed and he tried.

4Play:
Except that this point has already been factored in in my comment. You only need to look at my post that you quoted to see that I made reference to February 2015 data and compared this with September 2015 data. I did this primarily because February 2015 revenue was derived from a time oil prices were circa $50 per barrel. For the February 2015 report link: - From the September 2015 report link: . In summary, reported revenue for that month was circa 522 billion Naira when oil was circa $50 and a 40% yam eater was in charge and 390 billion Naira when oil was circa $50 per barrel and a non-yam eater was in charge. Notice also that my post had cited non-oil revenue which is largely unaffected by the oil price.

If GEJ's government ate 40% of the yam, the only reason revenue would continue to be lacklustre now that a non-yam eater is in charge is if yam eating is continuing in earnest.

Of course yam-eating would be continuing in earnest until people see the consequences of it.

You think people would just wake up and give up their lifestyles and "investment" in corruption without a fight?

4Play:
The more probable scenario is that, like the claim that Buhari stole $2bn as NNPC boss, the scale of yam eating is exaggerated for political effect. Witness how you made a statement which you believed to be a fact - that Dasuki alone pocketed $2.1bn which is N420bn at the official rate. Have you asked why he's being charged for a small fraction of the amount you "know" he stole?

First of all, I don't think if $2.1bn is missing then Dasuki alone would have pocketed it all.

Even if I said that, you should not be pedantic to the level you take it literally.

If you understand the way corruption works, there will be others taking a cut from it, Dasuki is just the central figure in the loot.

Secondly, the fact he is being charged with only a fraction NOW is by no means evidence that $2.1bn is an exaggeration. They reported to have found $2.1bn that is unaccounted for or illegal spending overall. You should consider he is being charged for a fraction of the loot because those are the easy to trace ones they have found.

You have absolutely no clue the list of other charges that would come and the combined figure it would come to. You are exhibiting the same quick to and early judgement one sees with wailing wailers here. The only difference is that I suspect yours is sincere and with good intentions.

4Play:
I have not taken time to address your claim that 40% of our budget was stolen in the GEJ era as it is frankly so absurd that it is not worth the time refuting.

First of all, let me tell you about my experience in a country with low corruption and high acountability. I was working in an advisory capacity to a UK government department and during a meeting a Director told me that they attribute about 6% of their procurements to corrupt practices.

If a country like the UK can attribute as much as 6% to corruption, what would you think a country soiled and soaked in corruption like Nigeria during a Yam Festival being run by a cretin would be?

You really think 40% is absurd? O lo si gym ni to ma ni abs? (It went to the gym to get the abs?)

Let me let you into an insight of my discussions with people that get contracts in the public sector in Nigeria. They told me they calculate the cost. Add their profit margin to get a bid figure.

It does not end there o, here is the absurd part, they now (at least) DOUBLE this bid figure before they bid. For those who dem eye no open and with "absurd" thinking that do not do this doubling abracadabra, when they submit the bid, their contacts would tell them to go back and do so because alot of people must to chop.

So a project that would cost N100m to do, add a N35m legitimate profit to get N135m. Then double this, to get N270m as the bid for the project for it to qualify for sign off and it to win. How much has been lost in such a scam of something that should cost N135m? And you are telling me 40% get abs?

Worse still, they will not deliver on the work that should have cost N135m while taking N270m.

Is it not in the same Nigeria, during the same GEJ Yam Festival regime, that bulllet proof cars that cannot be worth more than $120K each were bought for $800K each? You think that was an exception?

Dey there!

Another thing, let me tell you the annual budget of the ONSA in 2014. It was about $740m.

Now imagine whatever Dasuki is stealing (from outside his Office's budget), you think the lower tier staff are living by their circa N300K salary a year? In a Yam Festival?

Dey there!

Go to Sagamu GRA and go and see the externally visible 25 airconditioners mansion the Chairman of the LG built there. You think that came from his (maximum) N5m a year payment entitlements?

You dey see abs abi?

Dey there!

Governments are having ghost workers, people are looting pensions while those entitled to the pensions are even still alive.

I know someone on NL who got a federal civil service job and she never gets paid her allowances, only gets paid her basic salary, because the senior staff are looting her allowances and they feel those at her level should feel lucky to even have such a job in the first place. This girl is well connected o.

And you are saying it is fatsurd to say 40% is going amiss in Nigeria? When people can loot those less powerful themselves live with impunity, you think it is budgets meant for processes and infrastructure they can't loot when those in Aso Rock power do not give a flying shyt?

Kontunu!

4Play:
If the lack of improved revenue collection is because "change/transformation" would take time, that point has no place in a debate about public finance in the coming year since if revenue has not improved now it certainly is not going to do so, at least sufficiently, to ward off expanding the debt load significantly in 2016 which is the original point I made. This has been somewhat conceded by the government in its projected borrowing estimate.

You cannot say if revenue has not improved in 6 months, then it "certainly" will not improve in 12 months or 1 year. That is a logical fallacy!

Even in any calculations being done by a government, they would have a base case plus optimistic and pessimistic cases. This is the norm when trying to forecast the future. The base case is what is presented.

You have not factored in what will change, what is being changed and any lagging factor of what is being done recently in that argument. Especially when what was being done before was not anywhere near mediocre, talkless of best practice. That is like saying a fat man that can run 100m in 28s and then starts going to the gym for 2 hours (4 days a week) but is still adjusting to his new diet in the first 6 months will not run 100m faster 1 year than his 26.89s dash after. After 1 year, he will CERTAINLY still be only to run 100m in 24-28s.

Be careful how certain you are or proclaim when you are making assumptions, ESPECIALLY about future events.

4Play:
I find risible the use of APC bromides of change and transformation and rather feeble exculpatory claims that things getting worse for Nigerians is an indication of transformation. Such a claim requires an incredible leap of faith as it based on hope rather than history. I say this because the President did not distinguish himself in previous roles as PTF boss (where his underlings misappropriated 25bn Naira, a lot of money in those days), as military president (where Buharisms wrecked havoc on the economy as alluded to in this article -http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-election-analysis-idUSKBN0MS4T920150401) and as oil minister/NNPC Chairman. This echoes my query to those who in 2010/11 littered Nairaland shouting Fresh Air! in support of GEJ -what in the new president's past history demonstrates competence which imbues you with such confidence in his abilities for such an intellectually tasking role as being president?

Further, there is a glaring absurdity to the claim that pain-inducing uncertainty is the logical consequence of Buhari's awesome transformation. As if to say, that the deterioration in the economy and the flight of foreign capital is evidence that Buhari is working. In reality, uncertainty is the result of policy ineptitude, i.e., it's not just the inexcusable lack or delay in setting up a clear policy framework, it's that policies when announced are economically illiterate. Witness the declaration by the president that the Naira would not be devalued reinforcing the CBN's hamfisted attempt to maintain a fixed peg or the rather odd attempt to effectively extort money from foreign investors like MTN.

You have to also remember that financial markets are a forward discount mechanism, they reflect investors present assessment of future economic prospects. If you believe today that Buhari is embarking on a transformative path that will improve Nigeria significantly, you will invest today not adopt a wait and see attitude. There is, at the very least, a lack of supporting evidence by any objective criteria for the claim that we are witnessing benign transformation.

Of course when one is talking about the FUTURE actions of a 2nd party, and not ones-self, a major part of one's position is a level of faith.

So, yes, there is a leap of faith in my position.

You are perfectly entitled to your level of pessimism. But I don't share that.

My faith lies in my inside knowledge of how badly run the country has been run during the rise festival and my belief in the intent of Buhari as well as his ministerial appointments which brims with some competent individuals.

As for your arguments about individual actions by Buhari, to be clear, I don't agree with all his policies (nor his appointments) but that should not be mixed up with the realities of emotional phases of complex transformation which I am aware of and is academically accepted.

As for the highlighted in red, my advice to you is refrain from using such arguments. It is in the category of your "certainty" above.

Is there even enough data for investors to engage in forward discount mechanism in Nigeria? How will they invest when there is even no policy and no ministers?

4Play:
It's funny that as the government has justified the 2016 borrowing on the basis that debt-GDP ratio is very low and, therefore, sustainable. In other words, they are operating on the basis that GEJ's economic data is accurate. I view data/info from GEJ's era suspiciously and the present governments wholsesale adoption of such data confirms my prediction of "more of the same."

I can't disagree with this. But If you were in their position, what will you do?

You need to get a budget out in 6 months and make decisions on policies soon, what will you do?

Start gathering data that might take you 2 years to get good ones? Or go with the inadequate data at hand to make some kind of decision for now and focus on data improvement in the future?

4Play:
As far as criticising the government causing it distraction, maybe the government should lock up its critics a la the first Buhari government. A Nigerian government certainly should not be put in a position where it is exposed to too much criticism.

Why do you think they need to lock up their critics?

4Play:
In summary, Nigeria, like a lot of African countries, has been endowed with utterly incompetent leaders from the sectionalist Balewa to the brain-dead GEJ. There is nothing in Buhari's past history or policy leanings that convinces me that this time is different. At best, we might see a reduction in corruption but this is more likely to be offset by the deleterious effects of economic illiteracy. I have made this point several times - bad policies can cause more economic loss than all the Maduekes and Dasukis put together. When you insist on spending 1 trillion Naira per year subsidising fuel consumption, on fixing exchange rates and on doing fiscal stimulus in a high-inflation macro-environment, this can prove far more damaging than any attempts by an individual to change a nation's way of life for the better. It is for this reason that I suspect that the FG will have to scale back its 2016 borrowing if it wants to keep Nigeria on a fiscal sustainable path. We may have a good rally in oil prices in which case much of this is moot but that is a gamble the FG should not be making. As we go into the new year with many federal health workers yet to be paid their November salary and news of delays in paying federal workers, our judgement of our leaders should be grounded in empiricism borne out of verifiable facts and not blind faith in politicians supplemented by tendentious bromides like transformation and change.

PS: Wasn't transformation the buzz word of the GEJ administration?

I agree with many points here. I am just not as pessimistic.

As for Transformation being the buzzword of GEJ's administration, please refrain from ever comparing GEJ to PMB.

Halen:
Heartlessness in the highest order....wicked boy

And she is a saint?

HARDDON:
N what If this chat posts r all farce?

Fuuktard, and what is the relevance of this stewpid question?

HARDDON:
Who opened the cage for this cursed lost soul?

I don't trade words with daft drones.....
Back to ur dirt pig!

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

Run!

Banter1:
what did my late folks do to you? May their late spirit hunt you for the rest of your life AMEN.

It is a simple question, ya papa no bang?

If them spirit come and dem see the spirits of my ancestors who hang behind me, dem go scatter run in panick.

DonUjay:
.I don't know whether to Laugh or Cry for You,maybe its partly because I don't even know what you are saying or maybe the foolishness in your statement just turns my stomach

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

I wouldn't suggest you cry, I would suggest you wail because of the sense you lack.

Banter1:
wow that's harsh!

It is not harsh o.

He said men should not bang women. Maybe he was conceived through immaculate conception. So he should let us know if he is Jesus II.