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[quote author=~Lady~]I answered your question above, read again. It was the first thing I said. Or are you so much of a senior citizen that you can't read?[/quote]No you gave tory, not answers. Especially to the second part. ![]() No abuse my old age. My mind is still sharp and I am not impotent. Please answer the question and state your view as succinctly as possible. ![]() I am too old for bedtime stories. |
[quote author=~Lady~]Yes I do know that. Unfortunately in today's world the woman isn't charged, but the ironic thing is that if the driver were a man and he drives recklessly and kills the woman and her child he is charged with double homicide. Actually not just a man, if anyone else other than the pregnant woman were driving and caused the death, it's a double homicide, the person is persecuted for both the mother and child. Amazing law ain't it ![]() But trust me the woman has tormented herself. A lot of women are actually tormented by their abortions, quite a few of them have ended up in an assylum. Now I live in the U.S. so it's easier to find these things out. One can only imagine how many Nigerian woman are suffering the pain of abortion, but would still walk in stride. Nigerian women would suffer and stay in anything. Now you'd say well still the woman is the one getting an abortion. But a woman doesn't get an abortion by herself, there is a doctor that performs that abortion. So let's align it with what I stated above, since we're too sensitive to prosecute the woman but would still prosecute the other individual, we have an other individual in the case of an abortion as well. It works for Ireland, and I believe they have the lowest infant and mother mortality rate in the world. Lol yes sir you would be counted as a very young senior citizen [/quote]All these na tory. ![]() I willl repeat the question: Do you think a pregnant woman that does something reckless which leads to her losing her pregnancy would be charged for manslaughter? Secondly, do you think she should? |
Fulaman198: Notice how the Nigerian women choose white guys more than black guys ~.~And so? |
luvinhubby: That man is a monumental calamity, turbaning in the in the midst of mourning six of his staff that died on official assignment. That's the height of Sanusi's callousnessYou are a person! Who are you to dictate your mourning standard to him? Was it official assignment that killed them? |
kandiikane: Still water no one is arguing you about your father's love because as for me I didn't experience that but you cannot argue either because you have not experience what it's like without one. Don't think because of a father in your life that's why you had education as your main priority or you have your future planned out etc etc etc. If your father is not a millionaire then as an African education will be your top priority whether you like it or not. I have seen people who had father and mother and they a living absolutely rubbish lives. I can argue a father's love more so than you because it has never meant anything to me and also because I am doing well without it. This saying is true, "you cannot miss what you never had."You keep on arguing me, me, me, me. Have you ever considered looking at things on average? At things on probabilities? So because a child from a ghetto school gets into Oxbridge means it really does not matter if your child goes to a ghetto school or to Eton/Harrow/Winchester if they want to go to Oxbridge? So because Djimon Hounsou made it in Hollywood means where you grew up (be it Africa or America) does not improve your chance of making it in Hollywood? |
[quote author=~Lady~]By being human, just like you with its own DNA, body, and organs. Just as you have the right to life as an adult is how you have the right to life as a child, and in the womb. Every human has the right to life regardless of the stage of development, because clearly to get to the next stage of development you have to go through the one that comes before that. Or do you believe that you don't have the right to life? Or possibly that you didn't go through the stage of development in the womb to become an infant outside of the womb, to become a toddler, to become an adolescent, to become a pre-teen, to become a teenager, to become a young man, to become a middle aged man, to become a senior citizen (I'm thinking you haven't gotten to this stage of development?)[/quote]Okay. You know if you are driving with me as a passenger and you purposely do something reckless that leads to an accident and I die, you will be prosecuted for manslaughter? Do you think a pregnant woman that does something reckless which leads to her losing her pregnancy would be charged for manslaughter? Secondly, do you think she should? I am 69, I don't know whether you don't count that as a senior citizen. |
[quote author=~Lady~]People we forget one simple fact, what is in a woman's womb is a human LIFE. And that life has a right, and that right is a right to live. Just like you and I. Nigerians amaze me, we're quick to condemn our government for not valuing the lives of the people, when we ourselves do not value the most innocent of lives. May God have mercy on us all.[/quote]How does that life has a right. Please edjucate me. I want to hear some funk. |
kandiikane: @stillwater, so because you have a father around you tend to have good taste in men?I can't believe you are still arguing that a two parent household on average has better impact and contributes more positively to a child's nurturing, future relationships and self-development than an average one parent household. |
[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Now, is that right? Makes me wonder how many pikin you don father o. lol[/quote]as I always answer when asked that question: I don born 25 and counting, and I am still only 22 years old. Yorisb:If I pop down viagra with the water from the stream in Sagamu that I grew up drinking used to soak a bowl of ijebu garri (no sugar), I think I can achieve that in one session with a nice Orobo-to-bad woman. stillwater: Lol, school has just begun, true, but those years 13-19 are the most critical in setting out your future path. There's the emphasis to get you high school diploma at that age, in order for you to move on ahead to do greater things in your future. If the foundation is right, she won't make silly mistakes in college and beyond. Now to dating, I wouldn't blink an eye when I see a teenager dating, e no concern me, but it was [size=14pt]absolutely unnecessary[/size] for me to date at that age. What can some little boy give me, money? love? Can he even spell love?That would have not been a problem. When you were 17, I would have been 45. So I for fit spell love and give you money. |
aspabay: Irony of our Leaders: While the bodies of eight CBN staff who were on their way to Lagos for a conference are yet to be identified or are still in the morgue,the Central Bank of Nigeria Govenor Lamido Sanusi went ahead with his elaborate turbaning by the Emir Ado Bayero of Kano this morning as the Danmajen Kano.You are a reetard! So his life should stop because of others misfortune? And how does is life stopping help anybody? Cretin! |
LocalChamp: Ihezuo said, “Since the incident, I have just been thanking God because He was the one that kept us. I have been rolling on my knees in thanksgiving since last Sunday and my knees are sore,” she said as she lifted up her skirt to show her bruised knees.Usual nonsense of the average Nigerian. So God planned to kill the other 153 then? ![]() |
stillwater: I have always wondered what would even make a girl [i]willingly [/i]open her legs at 13-19 years? Talking about the Nigerian culture here, oyinbo can go to hell for now. Either she's been deprived of her father's love or she's poor and some guy promises her some money and olojukokoro would not let her stay one place. The foundation of her family is not right if she wants to tell me it's 'love'. Your father's love and maybe errr... mills and boonYou did not meet me in your teenage years that is why you were able to keep your legs closed. [quote author=Ileke-IdI]So exactly which school is finished at age 19? School just began at that age deary ![]() It's love oh, nothing like love and sex. I personally don't see anything wrong with dating at 17, having sex at 19. I did, what I didn't do is get pregnant. Still dating at 20+, still not pregnant yet. What could possibly be the explanation?[/quote]The explanation is it wasn't me. You for don born triplets. |
millco88: Kobe Bryant is a good mentionYou claim other girls have no taste but this is who you regard has the hottest man in the world? ![]() |
Tony Spike: I don't want to believe that some of us discrediting the real life applications of mathematics are ignorant. I'm a communication engineer and I can authoritatively tell many of you using the internet today don't even understand just 1% of the mathematics behind it. Some you are talking of simple mathematics like Pythagoras theorem when we have far more advanced mathematics like partial differentiation techniques, affine geometries, signal analysis, signal encryption techniques, routing algorithms and wave spectrum analysis. If you don't know, these topics I just mentioned have contributed as much as 70% to the development of the internet framework and improving internet traffic. The end results are the fastest network access, video streaming, seamless wireless communication which many of you are enjoying today.Thank you. Please tell them. |
deenee: Who wants to get married nowadays when after ten or "ish" years of marriage, you suddenly discover that you have been living with a total stranger, when after ten or "ish" years of marriage you 'suddenly' discover that the sweet adorable kid who calls you "Daddy" and who makes you feel like 'Superman' anytime, you lift them up is not the product of your loins! harakiri: I am unmarried and hopefully will still be unmarried till i'm at least 39 before flipping the coin to either marry or impregnate one pretty girl to have a heir...period!Well said! OPUS DEI: Even my friend who got married to his hearthrob last year still shows some regret amongst many men I know.Nothwithstanding there are also happily married couples.I think the first step that you should have put in your advice is: 1- Decide if you need to be married and what is the point of being married. |
abouzaid: @sagamite, sir pls google d blog post and see d whole write up. Many economists are very worried that economics and finance have taken over economics and common sense. The greatest economic treatise ever written were done with no maths. Pls google recipe for disaster to find out how a formula in caused d worldwide economic crises. Also another formula known as capm is what caused d housing crises in usa cos investors forgot their brains and followed it sheepishly thereby failing to notice d housing bubble.It would be better for you to post me the link to the article instead of telling me to go and google it. |
Yorisb: I didn't know it was THAT dense.I told you so. ![]() |
PHIPEX: these things you mentioned are real but do they really worth the life of an unborn child? Should we kill a person in order to save him from severe mental agony? I think not.When people kill other people, they go to jail for murder. No one is killing anyone. Stop using dysphemism to create irrational perceptions. I would rather an abortion of an unthinking foetus than add another thinking child to come and live a life of misery in this tough world. I am sensible and a pragmatist, I am not that funky [size=4pt](except in bed with hot women sha)[/size]. I don't appreciate my having the luxury of being funky at the expense of another person's misery caused by my funky principles. I am not an antinatalist but I sure understand some of the great points of antinatalism are applicable. |
Bontee: If she wasn't expecting it in return then it means she gave out of freewill and she should not be concerned about the ownership of the property. It is either you give loan, give out money and state you want a share of the property or give freely without expecting anything in return.You are a mooron! If he knows he does not want her to own a share out of the house, why can't he start paying her back her 300K? And she is the one greedy, selfish and inconsiderate? Anuofia! |
Yorisb: Wow!! How on earth did I miss this threadOya read and see my "I told you so". ![]() |
kandiikane: I just think teenagers these days have become to spoilt and rampart. Even with the abundance of free condoms and contraception and morning after pills(UK)they are too lazy to use them.In my own generation of growing up, we use to have access to a far better contraceptive system than the West have now or could ever dream of. That contraceptive hardly ever lacked effectiveness or lead to parents throwing their hands in the air saying "if they are going to do it, with or without your knowledge they will do". It was a powerful bipartite contraceptive: 1) Let the child know I will kill you if you get pregnant or get someone pregnant. That acted like the modern-day condom. 2) There is a lot of public shame to getting pregnant at an early age or even outside marriage. That acted like the modern-day s[i]e[/i]x education. IT WORKED LIKE A CHARM! IT WORKED LIKE THE CONCOCTIONS MY BABALAWO IN SAGAMU NORMALLY GIVES ME! I can not think of any girl in my youth that got pregnant. Girls used to want to do it, but the fear paralysed them to the point they felt there was no point doing it as they would not enjoy it without a relaxed mind. Unfortunately for us, we have an insatiable appetite to copy oyinbo. We think anything they do is better. So we change what we do to what they do. Nowadays, parents would even excuse themselves to give their wards an opportunity to do it in a "safe" environment because they believe the kids "will do it anyway". kandiikane: P.S, to ye saying a child is mentally unsettled without one parent. --I would like to say I do not live in a council flat, I do not hang around in gangs, I don't live in an area filled with single parents, I do not carry around knives, I do not lack anything, I have not become a single parent, I have never tried killing myself because I only had one parent, I come out with great results, I have a great future ahead of me, I am very healthy, I have never been declared insane, I don't feel the urge to be violent without sufficient reason etc.It just happens that NONE of the things you listed is an appropriate definition of being mentally unsettled. Mentally unsettled, in my utilisation, means the mental questioning of one's completeness. Not whether you cross the road with you left leg first or how many Indonesian friends you have. Surely if you grew up in a single parent home, you would miss the presence and feel of a father figure. You will question who your father is and why he is not there (if he is unfortunately late and/or not present in your upbringing). You will wish you lived under two parents when you are constantly bombarded with images of a wholesome family by the media through adverts, your favourite shows, your academic studies of family formations etc. You would question if your father loved/loves you and wonder what life would be like if he was there to guide and mentor you. Worse when you hear your friends talk about their fathers, not just their mothers. Or when you see them interact with their dads and the men are doing their best to make their child's life easy or are guiding them in life. Or when you see they have 2 alternate shoulders to fall on and you have only one (that might not always be available due to life's challenges, even though she wants to be available everytime). You would feel just slightly down everytime you have to explain a father is not in your life to inquisitive acquintances. Those are what I meant by mentally unsettled or things that lead to it. The frequent, maybe transient, questioning of completeness. It is not, and does not have to be, a violent or bombastic unsettlement that requires the NHS to prescribe pills. It is just that pins and needles, that draft under the door frames, that missing piece in a giant puzzle at the back of your mind. Some handle it well, some don't. That is why stats normally show that children from single parenthood have more tendencies to be on the wrong side of the law, to be teenage mothers, to be less successful academically etc. Not all of them, but it increases susceptibility drastically. So having two parents would have made a difference to majority of them. |
[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Now that it has quieted down for the rest of us to post; I'll let her have the baby, but I'd give the baby to an adoption agency. No reason killing a baby that another woman prays to have. I think the best place to send her (my daughter) would be to live with a few relatives in the village.[/quote]REALLY? You think it is better to bring a child into the world and put them in an unknown fate where they are permanently reminded "they were not wanted" all because some other people want babies and can not concieve? Really? Do you EVER watch documentaries to understand how kids feel when they face the facts even their own parents never wanted them? Do you realise how they live their lives with deep insecurities? Do you know how they typically struggle with relationships and building social bonds? You are going to bring a child into this world that may (in the best enviroment, the West) end up moving from foster home to foster home till they are 18 because some other people want babies and can not concieve? Or you think it is every child put in an adoption agency that end up being adopted? Less than 1 in 4 are adopted. Lets not even talk about placing a child in adoption in Nigeria, I know you have always loved to have an Almajiri as a member of your family. ![]() You are going to bring a child into this harsh world to possibly come and face extremely severe life challenges because of your funky moral values? |
PHIPEX: You got me wrong there, what I mean is that condemning the unborn child to non existence isn't right. Am among the people that are condemning the relaxation of attitude to teenage pregnancy but when it occures abortion must not be our ONLY remedy.Abortion is surely not the only remedy in my view but it should surely be one of the remedial options. |
BaBa Mike: [color=#000000]Many married people are unhappy because they dont really get to know each other well enough before getting married or get married for the wrong reasons. I'm happily married to a lovely and charming woman,for almost 20 years we have three wonderful children, my oldest daughter is 18.It's important to have a possibility thinking attitude toward marriage before we can even begin. I think many people rush into marriage without looking at the big picture... some don't consider asking their future spouse about their views on the important things that make a marriage work.Well said. |
kadafijabz: i'm not married.at least not yet,but my experiences as a vibrant young man,has helped me build a futuristic perspective towards the subject 'marriage'.truth be told,every marriage or union,is aan amalgamation of two imperfect people trying to achieve a healthy blend of ideologies without harmfull fictions.the beauty of any union,is the ability to disagree to agree.marriage is no exception!i musnt fail to mention that society and growing trends,have further aided in bastardizing this much revered institution.i'm amazed that men would rather opt to go cheer their favourite football teams,rather than spend lost quality time with their yearning spouses.blackberry is readily another wanted culprit in this critically sensitive piece.social networking has gradually stolen away the sanity of values we all once upheld so intensely.women now consider the kitchen a 'deathrow' in every sense.its even more 'classy' and optional to buy meals for their household even at weeekends!what a letdown!whichever way,lapses and inaddequacies are expedient.joy will only remain in an atmosphere of humility.humilty from both ends to readily admit their voids and wanting-lly adopt an attitude of teachability.there may never be a spotless marriage,but there can always be a happy one.it all depends on the readiness of the practitioners to embrace the spirit of sacrifice which of course,has been sent on a indefinite exile by many 'players' in this sacred industry.on a final note,i implore you to sincerely ask yourself this one vital question'am i really ready to pay the price to make this union work?the future of your union or marriage,solely depends on whatever your heart has echoed as an answer...marriage is honourable,and the bed undefiled.GOD said so!cheers people.Beautifully said. kwizzy: So many single men are unhappy,lonely,fustrated,jobless,dis-organisnised,heartbroken and tired of life. Hpoking different type of women whether booby,big bom,black,fat,slim etc doesn't make one happy always except for Ω̶̣̣̥̇̊ sex addict.life is nt all about freedom.for life to be meaniful you must take responsibility. Marriage is ordained by God and in its true form is suppose to be enjoyed.Another moronic post. |
lestat: @Miss_Ife(f): ideal, but my dear very impractical in Nigeria... I agree with what you have said "know thy self" this should be every serious human begins motto!! a lot of people carry all their emotional baggage into marriage hoping that it will all get miraculously fixed by the marriage itself which in my opinion is absurd.. I have to say I am always shocked when I see certain people I knew way back in unilag all of a sudden married and I think to myself 'ehm that girl was a groupie! has she suddenly fixed that and gotten married?"Well said. SNCOQ3: ^ What is it with the insults ?? Why don't you prove him wrong constructively if you have your facts? sanchez4eva: Bro pls no harsh words. He is writing what he feels is right and should be done. Different strokes for different folks.He should say what ever he needs to say intelligently and he should keep his religious bigotry to himself. If he wants to fight demons, he should do it in his church with a hosepipe of holy water. |
[quote author=shine-eye]I sincerely do not know where you got the notion that marriage makes men unhappy. I sincerely see you as one of those modern day promoters of ungodliness . How could you even suggest that! I have been married for over a decade and there is no greater bliss than my wife in my life. It is all so simple. If we are simple honest people who dont derive pleasure in deceiving people for our pleasure, we would enjoy this life. But we have become so devious and are reaping from are folly. Life is simple. Marriage is so simple. We have abandoned the sincerity of our fore fathers and complicated our lives. Rather than return to the better old way, some dark agents are busy propelling rotten doctrines of living happy lives by jumping from woman to woman.Also note that enemies of marriage are direct enemies of God. We need to change ourselves, not God or marriage. The unhappiness of today is a reflection of our waywardness. More waywardness can never be the solution![/quote]What an utter moronic post! How has this junk proven many men are not unhappy in marriage? By using your singular life? Or your bigoted religious rants? |
Abasha, may your Father be boning you up the arse in hell. |
PHIPEX: I have no argument that there are Psychological effects a child born to a single parent could have but banking on those "singular" side effect to condemn them to none existence in other to make our society sane will amount to "robbing Peter to pay Paul". If these effects are too weighty to you then we can as well conclude that children who lost their mothers at birth will be a torn to the society. My take once again is that there are limited cases or situations where abortion could sound mild but certainly not in this case of giving the mother a "happy ending".You need to go back and read the thread before you start contributing. No one condemned single parenthood to non-existence. People are condeming the relaxation of attitude to teenage prenancy. A carrot is not a police baton. |
DaRapture: Hold on, what do you mean "would you ALLOW your wife"?Please tell the fucktards! |
bakila: Are you married, you are reacting to a onesided story. A man who borrows three hundres naira from his wife made the environment possible for here to earn that money.Amsorry! Please explain to me how he "made" the environment possible for her to earn the money. You mean without him in her life, she would not be able? |
ayobase: Cretin?....Slimyem's Uncle?Never save a worthless, moronic marriage to a cretin. |
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[/quote]All these na tory.
it's not the same so-called love based on sexual attraction, it's more of comfort, the struggles you have been through to get where you are today, everything you have shared-being use to that person for so long you just cannot go. Believe me, if you reach 60 and you are still with your husband you will understand. Whoever told you that love that was first based on s£xual attraction lasts forever is a liar and has been watching too many fairy tales.
So dating as a teenager is something that can be done without. I just believed you can't get your childhood back, so it's better you enjoy it now and stop rushing to do what adults do. Love is something I was meant to believe adults felt for each other. Every other thing was puppy, kitten and cockroach love.

