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This IPOB r just political tools used by d PDP, isn't it obvious??..... They say an owl cried in the night and a baby died n d morning, who killed the baby??. GEJ lost election and the next tin Nigeria bcame a zoo... Who is fooling who. They said buhari and APC destabilized their govt, so it's time to repay the favour and they r openly and brazenly doing so.

If u truly want biafra den it has to be done the right way, it's either thru war or through a referendum. War has been used and it failed woefully, so d only option available to them is thru a referendum.... Nd wen I see dem asking for a referendum on social media, it just shows they r irresponsible and it just buttresses my point that they r just a tool used by d PDP.

They have representation in d Senate, d house also, these r d pple who r legitimately empowered to fight for a referendum, but no, they will not, they will eat and those fools will b on d street protesting

Nigerians and foolishness are like 5 and 6. They will never think and reason well, there's is every possibility that these people can b Fulani herdsmen who did this, there is also a possibility that some other criminal did it, just because a writer decided to put d blame on trending antagonist in d country doesn't mean that it's them.

I remember wen militancy was at its peak, my kind of evil done in d south south, west and east was alleged to be done by militants, pple just conclude without proper investigation.

What's the implication of this, it means a group of hoodlums can just perpetrate a crime and blame it on fulani herdsmen in other to give it a religious and tribal colouration with the aim of causing division and in fighting bw Nigerians, now instead of looking for a way to find d perpetrators Nigerians will be busy arguing and fighting each other..... How we can't see this, is really a disappointment.

The annoying thing is they will curse and insult anyone who has a different view, it's wrong..... Let's learn to do things right

pchukwudi:
Stop talking like an irrational kid.

It has been made clear on this thread severally that what we need is referendum.

The argument now is how do we get that referendum?

One of you said that fed cannot give us referendum because it is not mentioned in the constitution. So the constitution will have to be mended.

But how do you mend the constitution when the beneficiaries of the unjust system are in the majority?

How do you mend the constitution when the north is given more legislative representation than the south?

How do you amend the constitution when your people in the south-west will rather fight for one nigeria?

Thing is, civil disobidience is an option too.

So anything that pushes the exit refrendum to the consciousness of all Nigerians is welcome. It does not matter if the movement is driven by intellectuals or jobless retards, as long as the movement is gaining visible momentun. Those who mock it today will change their mind tomorrow if they like. The most important thing is to be on the move consistently.

What was this one thinking, that's it's gonna be an easy process........well good luck with ur approach, I'm done with u

BudeYahooCom:
Fox news, sky news, New york times, BBC, reuters and other world media organization are reporting about 'Internet' Biafra. It's no mean feat to get in their newspages. I don't think Kanu's IPOB is doing badly with their approach? Do you?

Same way they reported about ur pple in 1967 and yet nothing changed.... U guys since den have not learnt a damn tin....... U think they care about u??, u think d Russians, d US, d Chinese, d British care about u... U guys have not learnt a damn tin........ D only way u can seceed is by war or a referendum....u have tried one option and it failed..... Try the other.... It mite work... But u won't get it my tearing Nigeria apart

jumobi1:
Suggesting the agitators ask for a referendum through the National Assembly is a convenient but unfair suggestion. Every Nigerian knows the National Assembly is inept and a waste of money. What tangible impact do they have on Nigeria? Will they suddenly function when Biafra issue arises?

But that is the legal and serious way, until they have done that no one will take dem serious

The reason I hate my fellow country men, they r hypocrites, they only know how to criticize but r so quick to d wrong things themselves.

Now the organizers of the show are biz men, who their end game is to make profit, the same way biz men who import cars, prefer to import thru Cotonou, cos it's cost effective.

The BB tin has always been south african, the first Nigerian edition must have not been so profitable, prolly thts d reason they r having d second editions so many years after.

If there's constant electricity in d country, y border spending on so much diesel... because if it's done here, den d show must run on gen 24/7, it would be too expensive, no sane biz man would invest in such.

Let's be understanding, sometimes, let's reason, let's be objective, let's analyze critically. Dnt join those who have been politically motivated to insult any thing Nigerian weather good or bad because they said they r tired of Nigeria.

Fifthcolumnist:
Hmmm. Even it were worse than Jammeh's case, I don't see ECOWAS deploying fighter jet squadrons to our borders or reading invasion troops. They'll probably impose sanctions and give ultimatums that would be ignored. Also, Nigeria has been arguably the bone of ECOMOG operations in the last two decades. Without Nigeria, ECOWAS would would have a shaky voice; and against us their resolve would be drowned. Only Western Pressure can really intimidate a Nigeria leader....I could be wrong sha

You are not far from the truth, a nation like Nigeria with its population and size would require a stronger army.... Dnt forget tht f UN, AU, EU and other countries backed D Ecowas military unit to go into Gambia.... Same woukd happen in our case, all they need is stronger force... Probably UN troops will have to be deployed too.

Fifthcolumnist:
I'm not arguing to win bro. My point is both case scenarios (although technically different) were both condemnable as they both serve to ensure power remained with the incumbent(IBB didn't look ready to relinquish power) Or are u going to say what IBB was cool? would it happen in a sane society? abeg make una forget joor. no get time for argument too

Atleast ur objective enough to agree tht there r technical differences, no one is saying what ibb did was bad but the matter of contention is y didn't Ecowas act den.... The technical difference u have just admitted to is d reason Ecowas didn't act I presume...moreover then dissemination of info wasn't like what we have today, with d rise of internet, social media and all....

Fifthcolumnist:
If condemning the annulment of arguably the fairest elections in our nations history is prejudice in your sight, then you're right bro: this convo is needless.

Y r u like this, u dnt involve in an convo to win but to sometimes educate urself.... Aboila was declared winner by delectoral chairman although he was clearly D winner on paper, but ibb annulled the election bfre d winner was annoyed by the chairman.

Adama barrow on d other hand was announced and decleared as the winner by their electoral chairman, that my friend is the first difference, secondly jammeh had conceded defeat only for him to turn 360 and say he doesn't believe in d same election that he conducted...

googlepikins:
may they mistakenly slaughter your family member like this and say it's a lie.

So because u put a picture of a dead guy, I am supposed to believe that he was killed during d protest, come on this is d 21st century, pictures like this are over d internet...

What's d proof that he was shot by d Nigerian security forces, what's d proof that that's even rivers, there r alot of cult killings n Rivers, he could have as well been caught in a cross fire bw rival gangs.

Wen u want to post evidence, post evidence that proofs beyond reasonable doubt..... From ur evidence, I can concert hundreds of doubts, so thts no evidence at all

Joysmith2:
Wat if dy are not ready for peace...fold ur hands and let dem kill u Abi...

Does fighting back mean that people still won't be killed. There are no victors in war

Two persons called me, that I was matched with them to pay them, I told them that woo, so u want me to be in ur position abi, as in we should exchange positions... Thank you, u r very nice, I'm not paying dime, MMM is dead to me........i felt pity for them the way they sounded esp d lady, she sounded very frustrated

Kagawa10:
Paul stated that they should acknowledge it's coming from the Lord! He never said it's coming from the Lord. You're the one doing the twisting bro!

Pls enlighten me, I seem to have lost touch with English language...... Wen some one askes u acknowledge that a command is coming from the Lord, pls how is it differnt from its coming from the Lord??...enlighten me

Kagawa10:
Paul didn't acknowledge that it was coming from the Lord. He stated that Church should acknowledge his commandment from him as their leader. Note that Paul stated that we should listen to our leader and acknowledge them because they were ordained by God and their commandments are no different from that of God to set things straight. (Romans 13:1-5, Hebrews 13:17)

Like I stated earlier, Paul's admonition to the Ephesians, Corrithians etc were not wrong because in those age, few women were knowledgeable hence, principles were set down for them to put orders in the Church.

Normally, we are no more under any law but under grace which is sufficient enough to help us live right in Christ Jesus however, principles are bound to be laid down by every Church leaders and the Church are advised to obey them. And I asked, is Paul your Church's leader?

This one don twist Bible o..... I just put out there verse he clearly stated that the command was from the Lord (L) in capital letter, and ur twisting it to suit what u want to believe...... He never said they should acknowledge that the command was coming from him, he said the Lord.... So why r u now ascribing that Lord to mean Paul, or is Paul the Lord.... I will like you to quote 1corr 14:37....from ur Bible let's c, weda it was from d Lord or from Him

skywalker240:
Young man, be honest with urself from ur heart if a fulani herdsman comes with sword and starts hacking u into peices, jst be honest wil u in the name of if i retaliate in defense and kil him it wnt mk me any different from him..be honest wt urself. Wil u allow it. Else all what uve said stinks of hypocrisy

In ur analysis or scenerio, must the attacker be a fulani herdsman, d attacker can be a fellow Christains, or dnt Christains kill each other, dnt muslims kill each other??. It doesn't matter who is d attacker is, everyone has a right of self defence....ofcuz i will defend myself...if I fail to defend myself wen I can then it's suicide not murder.

But I wouldn't as a leader instruct my people to kill Fulani herdsmen. Wen u give such a msg, pple wud just c a fulani herdsman weda he is doing his own tin, as far as he has cows, they will hack him to death and say apostle said we should kill any fulani herdsman

I dnt know if u get the msg??......To make it very clear, there is a difference between, if ur been attacked fight back and kill any fulani herdsman u c. because it's wrong to come to a conclusion that all herdsmen are killers......

Kagawa10:
How about these?

1 corr 7:25, it says "Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgement.."

In comparism to this 1 corr 7:10 which says "And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband" but in the subsequent verse, verse 12, he said "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord"

You should know that Paul's admonition, commandment and judgement were based on the era and age the people were in at the time. He had to set orders in the church as deemed fit and women weren't as knowledgeable as men during that age period, hence, why he had to set those order based on his perspectives.

After all, Priscilla was acknowledged by the same Paul because he found her to be knowledgeable and scriptural inspired unlike most women.

Okay I agree but the commandment of women not speaking in church wasn't just Paul speaking his mind, it was a commandment of the Lord

1corr 14:37 if anyone thinks that he is a prophet or spiritual, he should acknowledge that what I am writing is a command of the Lord.... So this was clearly the Lords commandment not his

ritababe:
after el rufai settled the Fulani herdsmen what later happened?

U can do better than this, I have known u to be very smart, I trust u can do better..... El rufai settled with them with money.... That's what u were told, u were not there, I was not there, no one was there, it could as well have been a lie... But if I give him d benefit of doubt, okay let's say he settled them with money, wen d money finishes and they need more, what do u tink they would do again, if they want to get more money to get more arms, what would they do??.....

Thts not the kind of peace making I am talking about, I am talking about peace making with all d stakeholders represented......... Even if it doesn't yield result once, u continue until something good comes out.

ritababe:
so we should we fold our hands while they slaughter us?

No but be peace makers, what's stops CAN from meeting the leaders n KD, d trad rulers, d govt n d Islamic leaders and trying to bring about an end to D situation...thts what we should do,.not fight back or retaliate, thts if truly it's a christain killing, because no one so far has been able to prove that.

Fighting back will only lead to more bloodshed aso it's nor a reasonable solution, ND one tends to wonder the sort of spirit tht exist n Tht pastor, certainly not the Holy Spirit

Kagawa10:
Not all! Paul acknowledged he spoke without the spirit lead at times in most of his admonition!

Although I believe all his gospel preaching were led by the spirit.

What ever he said that wasn't led by d spirit couldn't have been recorded n d Bible..... All thts n d Bible is divinely inspired, thts y it's d standard.

So that instruction, since it was recorded, it was divinely inspired

I am Catholic but I can't say I believe or I dnt, but one thing I know is d Catholic Church would never fake or stage a miracle, D church isn't a solution or healing centre...... That I can vouch for

I can't vouch for the dude, some human beings r wonderful

Reader1988:
Come to Maiduguri, let Muslims burn your house, kill your mother and siblings. Then you can say what you have said and we will take you serious

So because muslims do that, we should now start a war with the fulani's. So wen u do that, how are u better than them.

You have not seen small persecution u r ranting here.... Y didn't the early church with all d persecution they went thru not begin to cut the head of their oppressors??... Warped thinking, it's only Pentecostals that think like this.... I dnt think any of the orthodox churches have this mindset.

It goes to show the kind of Christians that are nurtured n this Pentecostal churches, ND they r d ones who form holy D most

Seems the apostle has forgotten the beatitudes

Blessed are the peace makers for they shall be called sons and daughters of God.

The priest who officiated mass this morning preached what is totally differnt from what this Suleiman pastor is preacher, his message was centered on peace and admonished Christains leaders from fueling the crisis in kaguna, by giving it a religious colouration...

He rather asked them to be peace makers... Saying that there r no victors in a war... He asked us to build bridges rather than fences for Christ says blessed r d peace makers for they shall be called sons and daughters of christ

ritababe:
apologize for saying the truth?

What truth??, to kill a fellow human being, thts not the truth of d gospel, thts not the truth of Jesus Christ

mistytohcute:
thanks

Oh ur welcome, is that Dutch or German??

MzLarem:
The preaching of God's word isn't limited to any gender. Even Jesus sent his word through Mary Magdalene and the word of God says in Acts 2:17 "i will pour my spirit upon all flesh"

So far its done with all sincerity and with the purpose of serving God,a female preacher/pastor is justified.

The scripture was very clear on that instruction, it was a S clear as day light, we all agree that the Bible was written under d influence of the Holy Spirit, so tht wasn't just an instruction from Paul, it was from God.

U might not see what's wrong with a woman teaching n church or preaching, but there must be a reason that instruction was given by God. It's not just there because Paul felt like talking and adding his own to D Bible.

For tht letter to have been written to both Timothy and and d church n corithn, it means that this same argument must have arisen as at that time, and all Paul did was to clarify D issues under d inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

We Christains choose to obey D part of d Bible that appeals to us and d one that doesn't, we discard.... because o have been asking myself, this female pastors, dnt they c these instructions??, they do but they choose to ignore.

The issue of womens right, feminism and gender equality is d reason for this disobedience.

mistytohcute:
oh, teşekürler

What does this mean??

mistytohcute:
sorry o , but why are they protesting

The Trump dude is arrogant, he is against women's right, he is against abortion, ND wants to. Pass a law tht would make abortion a crime in d US.

So the women r protesting because they feel it's their right to decide if they want to keep a baby or abort it

Fabulocity:
So, someone can't just live their life in peace without one jobless bastard subjecting them to criticism like WTF??!
And of all people to judge and criticize, it's this Neanderthal called Kemi Olulonyo that'll open that hole on her face to say shït about someone else? What is this world turning into bikonu? Has she finished resolving the issues in her life because she has them plenty! Imagine a highly disturbed individual coming to play judge Judy in someone's life?
So what if the lady is pregnant,is it anybody's business?
How Nwankwo carries his hair, does it reduce the amount of oxygen anyone breathes ? Is his receeding hairline receeding her success in life??
The dress Laura wore for her wedding, how does it affect anyone? Is it not what she's happy with that she'll wear?
People could be soooo irritating!

I hope u know tht d Ikejis rose to prominence putting their nose in other people's biz??...so y would pple not put their nose on their own biz. U cannot claim to be a celebrity and yet want to have a private life, it just doesn't work that way, u can't claim to be a celebrity if no one talks bout u.

U cannot claim to be #fashionblogger of 2016 and wear nonsense on ur wedding day

As for D guys hair, come on, it doesn't fit him, he should take it off

P0intBlank:
There are places in the bible where references made to jewelries are good.

Ezekiel 16:11-14

11 I adorned you with ornaments, put bracelets on your hands and a necklace around your neck. 12 I also put a ring in your nostril, earrings in your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. 13 Thus you were adorned with gold and silver, and your dress was of fine linen, silk and embroidered cloth. You ate fine flour, honey and oil; so you were exceedingly beautiful and advanced to royalty. 14 Then your fame went forth among the nations on account of your beauty, for it was perfect because of My splendor which I bestowed on you,” declares the Lord God.

The Bible also makes these comparisons:

Prov. 25:11-12 A word aptly spoken is like apples of gold in settings of silver. Like an earring of gold or an ornament of fine gold is a wise man's rebuke to a listening ear.

Prov. 1:8-9 Listen, my son, to your father's instruction and do not forsake your mother's teaching. 9They will be a garland to grace your head and a chain to adorn your neck.

How can something so "immodest"(Jewelries) be likened to the beauty of sound counsel?

In the verse below, Abraham gives Rebecca these gifts via his servant (when he sent his servant to look for a wife for Isaac).

"And it came to pass, as the camels had done drinking, that the man took a golden earring of half a shekel weight, and two bracelets for her hands of ten shekels weight of gold' (Gen 24:22 KJV).

But I thought he said he read the Bible thru and thru and there are only two places that earrings and jewelleries are referred to??

vedaxcool:
You actually said rubbish... US bombed a Doctors without Borders run hospital, they said by mistake. ... Bombing a place is based on intelligence given unless the pilot is a bh or ipoop yoots there is no way he can tell where he is hitting, ipoop iliterates think that a fighter jet flies 2 stories and can clearly determine what they are looking at no they usually get directions from the ground because they are flying very high with little room for distinguishing what they are bombing. there is likely faulty intelligence or pilot/plane error to be blamed. Hitting the camp 3 times seems to indicate faulty intelligence.

Gbam!!!!.............u have said it all...... If tht jet should leave it Arsenal on that camp, no one will leave to tell the story

Shey they promised us end of month, Jan is gradually coming to a close and we r still here, nothing no update and it seems like everyone has gone to sleep

nero2face:
see how Gambia is boiling...that shows us what GEJ saved us all from...it's good to be good...

GEJ had no choice, he would have received the same treatment as jammeh